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Epamynondas
Profile Joined September 2012
387 Posts
January 11 2013 11:17 GMT
#801
On January 11 2013 20:08 00Visor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2013 20:06 Epamynondas wrote:
On January 11 2013 20:00 TheBB wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Wildcard Group

Symbol
      Expected score: 3.12-0.88 (sets: 3.12-0.88)
      Probability of achieving top 2: 82.80%
      Most likely place: 2nd (43.08%)

Byun
      Expected score: 2.50-1.50 (sets: 2.50-1.50)
      Probability of achieving top 2: 69.90%
      Most likely place: 2nd (40.10%)

Jaedong
      Expected score: 2.45-1.55 (sets: 2.45-1.55)
      Probability of achieving top 2: 45.00%
      Most likely place: 3rd (33.77%)

Center
      Expected score: 1.22-2.78 (sets: 1.22-2.78)
      Probability of achieving top 2: 2.31%
      Most likely place: 4th (77.81%)

Shine
      Expected score: 0.70-3.30 (sets: 0.70-3.30)
      Probability of achieving top 2: 0.00%
      Most likely place: 5th (100.00%)

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+ Show Spoiler [Details] +
Detailed placement probabilities

5th 4th 3rd 2nd 1st
Shine: 100.00%
Symbol: 0.96% 16.25% 43.08% 39.72%
Byun: 30.10% 40.10% 29.80%
Center: 77.81% 19.89% 2.31%
Jaedong: 21.24% 33.77% 14.51% 30.48%

Match score

0-4 1-3 2-2 3-1 4-0
Shine: 29.73% 70.27%
Symbol: 13.90% 60.52% 25.57%
Byun: 55.87% 38.04% 6.09%
Center: 77.63% 22.37%
Jaedong: 7.19% 40.14% 52.66%

Set score

-4 -3 -2 -1 0 1 2 3 4
Shine: 29.73% 70.27%
Symbol: 13.90% 60.52% 25.57%
Byun: 55.87% 38.04% 6.09%
Center: 77.63% 22.37%
Jaedong: 7.19% 40.14% 52.66%


Symbol vs. Jaedong

Symbol wins (32.16%):
      1-0: 32.16%

Jaedong wins (67.84%):
      1-0: 67.84%

Most likely winner: Jaedong (67.84%)
Median outcome: Symbol 0-1 Jaedong

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This is strange.... If Jaedong is so favored against Symbol, how comes his probability to advance is so low? Are his chances against center that low?

45% is not really low.
If Jaedong loses against Center, he loses tiebreaker vs Byun+Center, so he basically has to win both.

Yeah I guess I'm just underestimating both Center and the number 45
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 11 2013 11:18 GMT
#802
GSL S1 2013 Up & Down Matches Wildcard
ByuN (2-0) vs Shine (0-3)
Map: Bel'Shir Vestige

0:00
ByuN spawns in the bottom right
Shine spawns in the top left
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Gevna
Profile Joined August 2010
France2332 Posts
January 11 2013 11:18 GMT
#803
On January 11 2013 20:16 blade55555 wrote:
Ok Jaedong MUST win vs center to advance unless I am mistaken.

Show nested quote +
On January 11 2013 20:15 skYTosS wrote:
No killer eyes today from Jaedong. He's not at his best, hope he can win next game.


Can't blame him he just got back to korea and right after he arrived had to go straight to GOM studio.

I think there still is a possibility of a 3 way tie if Symbol loses against Byun.
Arghmyliver
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1078 Posts
January 11 2013 11:18 GMT
#804
On January 11 2013 20:16 DreamOen wrote:
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On January 11 2013 20:15 Ghanburighan wrote:
Someone with HD needs to take pics of Jaedong's win-face. I wouldn't play poker against a jet-lagged Jaedong.

[image loading]


Yes. It's like he's suppressing the inner demons from which he draws his power. "Must.... not.... eviscerate...."
Now witness their attempts to fly from tree to tree. Notice they do not so much fly as plummet.
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
January 11 2013 11:19 GMT
#805
Shine vs. Byun

Shine wins (70.27%):
      1-0: 70.27%

Byun wins (29.73%):
      1-0: 29.73%

Most likely winner: Shine (70.27%)
Median outcome: Shine 1-0 Byun

[image loading]

details, data source, code
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LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
January 11 2013 11:19 GMT
#806
Oh man proxies spotted straight away.
Long live the King of Wings
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
January 11 2013 11:19 GMT
#807
busted again, haha
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
January 11 2013 11:19 GMT
#808
Yes Jaedong !!! Gogo ByuN !
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
January 11 2013 11:19 GMT
#809
On January 11 2013 20:18 Gevna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2013 20:16 blade55555 wrote:
Ok Jaedong MUST win vs center to advance unless I am mistaken.

On January 11 2013 20:15 skYTosS wrote:
No killer eyes today from Jaedong. He's not at his best, hope he can win next game.


Can't blame him he just got back to korea and right after he arrived had to go straight to GOM studio.

I think there still is a possibility of a 3 way tie if Symbol loses against Byun.


Well to me sounds like if jaedong loses and symbol loses byun and jaedong advance, if jaedong loses, symbol wins symbol and byun advance.

From what I have seen the tie breakers is literally just a did x player beat y right?
When I think of something else, something will go here
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
January 11 2013 11:20 GMT
#810
ByuN microing that SCV pretty well ahaha.
Long live the King of Wings
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
January 11 2013 11:20 GMT
#811
Byun SCVs are damn sneak at building raxes!! :p
glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
January 11 2013 11:20 GMT
#812
On January 11 2013 20:17 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2013 20:17 glzElectromaster wrote:
On January 11 2013 20:16 blade55555 wrote:
Ok Jaedong MUST win vs center to advance unless I am mistaken.

On January 11 2013 20:15 skYTosS wrote:
No killer eyes today from Jaedong. He's not at his best, hope he can win next game.


Can't blame him he just got back to korea and right after he arrived had to go straight to GOM studio.


Jaedong can lose. Then if Symbol loses his next game, then it'll be a three-tie.


Would they actually play or would jaedong advance due to him > symbol ?


Well its Center> Jaedong > Symbol > Center if a three-way happens so they'll play.
RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33649 Posts
January 11 2013 11:20 GMT
#813
well, if you didn't know what team ByuN was on, now you know
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
AbuntuGuntu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1972 Posts
January 11 2013 11:20 GMT
#814
Byun, the SCV whisperer
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-11 11:21:07
January 11 2013 11:20 GMT
#815
On January 11 2013 20:20 glzElectromaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2013 20:17 blade55555 wrote:
On January 11 2013 20:17 glzElectromaster wrote:
On January 11 2013 20:16 blade55555 wrote:
Ok Jaedong MUST win vs center to advance unless I am mistaken.

On January 11 2013 20:15 skYTosS wrote:
No killer eyes today from Jaedong. He's not at his best, hope he can win next game.


Can't blame him he just got back to korea and right after he arrived had to go straight to GOM studio.


Jaedong can lose. Then if Symbol loses his next game, then it'll be a three-tie.


Would they actually play or would jaedong advance due to him > symbol ?


Well its Center> Jaedong > Symbol > Center if a three-way happens so they'll play.


Ah thanks I forgot about center lol xD

Hopefully jaedong just wins ^_^
When I think of something else, something will go here
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
January 11 2013 11:21 GMT
#816
If Byun loses this, Jaedong has a decent chance.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 11 2013 11:22 GMT
#817
On January 11 2013 20:18 Shellshock1122 wrote:
GSL S1 2013 Up & Down Matches Wildcard
ByuN (2-0) vs Shine (0-3)
Map: Bel'Shir Vestige

0:00
ByuN spawns in the bottom right
Shine spawns in the top left

1:40
proxy 11/11 from ByuN to the right side of the map near the 3rd base
quick drone scout from Shine

2:00
drone scout sees both proxy rax
pool for Shine
ByuN microing his building scvs to have them survive as long as possible
hatch for Shine

3:00
ByuN cancels 1 rax after the drone leaves
lings started for Shine
CC started for ByuN on the high ground
gas for Shine
ByuN floating his rax back

4:00
rax started at home for ByuN to complete his wall off
double gas for ByuN
rax floating turns around to scout

5:00
ling speed started for Shine
factory started for ByuN
reactor for ByuN
2 more rax for ByuN
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
January 11 2013 11:22 GMT
#818
On January 11 2013 20:20 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2013 20:20 glzElectromaster wrote:
On January 11 2013 20:17 blade55555 wrote:
On January 11 2013 20:17 glzElectromaster wrote:
On January 11 2013 20:16 blade55555 wrote:
Ok Jaedong MUST win vs center to advance unless I am mistaken.

On January 11 2013 20:15 skYTosS wrote:
No killer eyes today from Jaedong. He's not at his best, hope he can win next game.


Can't blame him he just got back to korea and right after he arrived had to go straight to GOM studio.


Jaedong can lose. Then if Symbol loses his next game, then it'll be a three-tie.


Would they actually play or would jaedong advance due to him > symbol ?


Well its Center> Jaedong > Symbol > Center if a three-way happens so they'll play.


Ah thanks I forgot about center lol xD

Hopefully jaedong just wins ^_^


Np. I'm torn. I'm both a fan of JD and Center.

I guess you could say I'll be happy if either of them advances.

Turns out I'm an avid anti-Symboler too.
RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
January 11 2013 11:23 GMT
#819
On January 11 2013 20:19 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2013 20:18 Gevna wrote:
On January 11 2013 20:16 blade55555 wrote:
Ok Jaedong MUST win vs center to advance unless I am mistaken.

On January 11 2013 20:15 skYTosS wrote:
No killer eyes today from Jaedong. He's not at his best, hope he can win next game.


Can't blame him he just got back to korea and right after he arrived had to go straight to GOM studio.

I think there still is a possibility of a 3 way tie if Symbol loses against Byun.


Well to me sounds like if jaedong loses and symbol loses byun and jaedong advance, if jaedong loses, symbol wins symbol and byun advance.

From what I have seen the tie breakers is literally just a did x player beat y right?


If Jaedong and Symbol lose, then there is a 3way tie between Symbol, Jaedong and Center.
glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
January 11 2013 11:23 GMT
#820
On January 11 2013 20:21 sitromit wrote:
If Byun loses this, Jaedong has a decent chance.


True. Three consecutive zerg wins from here and JD and Symbol will advance.
RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
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