I used to be GM NA/EU when I played actively and I am completely satisfied with all aspects of English cast. Many people apparently don't get it, Whiplash was SC2 PRO GAMER, SNM worked in BW for several years. Between them they have way more game and scene knowledge than other populist casters like TB and Husky. I can have stream minimized and just listen to proleague cast and I know everything that's going on, while I don't know what eSport I am watching when someone like TB is casting.

Heartland

Sweden24580 Posts

December 31 2012 12:05 GMT

#812

On December 31 2012 21:04 X3GoldDot wrote:

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3 cannons >2 spines

They outrange them though, right?

yoshi245

United States2969 Posts

December 31 2012 12:05 GMT

#813

Well at least it's not a KESPA map causing for an odd game lol.

Dodgin

Canada39254 Posts

December 31 2012 12:05 GMT

#814

Can't he just go expand? It's not like the cannons can uproot and move and kill his hatch, the only thing being denied is two mineral patches for a 4 cannon investment.

PresenceSc2

Australia4032 Posts

December 31 2012 12:06 GMT

#815

On December 31 2012 21:05 Heartland wrote:

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They outrange them though, right?

thats bunkers

Serinox

Germany5224 Posts

December 31 2012 12:06 GMT

#816

Why did soO cancel his expansion o_O there was no need to

Gimmeurladderpoints

Germany372 Posts

December 31 2012 12:06 GMT

#817

On December 31 2012 21:02 Emzeeshady wrote:

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On December 31 2012 20:58 Dodgin wrote:

On December 31 2012 20:45 Wildmoon wrote:

On December 31 2012 20:43 Dodgin wrote:

On December 31 2012 20:41 Emzeeshady wrote:

On December 31 2012 20:40 GolemMadness wrote:

On December 31 2012 20:39 Emzeeshady wrote:

On December 31 2012 20:37 glzElectromaster wrote:

On December 31 2012 20:37 Emzeeshady wrote:

On December 31 2012 20:32 haka wrote:
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Sonic Starleague. Kinda like the OSL/MSL.

I see. I am surprised there are still BW tournaments.

People play more BW than sc2 in Korea.

Why did all the pros switch over then?

Because Kespa switched to Starcraft 2, so they had to. Also, not all of them did. Some retired, and some of those are now playing BW, like Sea and Killer.

But if BW is more popular why did they switch over?

BW seemingly had more fan support, but they couldn't find sponsors for BW leagues. honestly I think the current situation with sc2 is no better. all the big sponsors are flocking to The Champions which is OGN's League of Legends tournament, and it has really big crowds for every match. LoL has basically filled the void left by BW. Sc2 is sort of a side project, as seen by them not having every match hosted in the main studio. We'll see how this season goes but so far I don't think Proleague is as successful with the local audience as they had hoped.

To be honest, i am actually ok with no kespa SC2. It's fine with just GOM imo.

I mean, I probably wouldn't mind that either but then you are faced with the situation of what happens to all the kespa starcraft 2 players? Will their teams keep their sc2 divisions if there's no proleague or OSL? If they keep running them, I assume they would all play in GSTL, but that's not on TV so why would they get significant salaries unlike most ESF players. Does the GSL allow for enough participating players in its current format to give enough exposure to 14 different teams, and the 200+ Korean sc2 pro gamers?

Now, if the teams died off. Right now for example, KT Rolster has no players in GSL other than Flash, if Proleague died off then what would happen to Stats, Wooki, Action, CH, etc. I guess they could play in GSTL if they formed a team and joined, but who would be paying them to play? Maybe KT would continue, but their pay would be drastically reduced to the level of ESF teams where most players earn nothing. At that point can it even be called pro gaming? If there's not enough spots in the individual league then those players will make no money, and give up, like so many already have.

Its very very sad that LOL is more popular then SC2. I guess it is the same as music and TV, popular stuff is mostly inferior.

Well you know. At least in League of Legends.
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Grettin

42381 Posts

December 31 2012 12:06 GMT

#818

On December 31 2012 21:05 Dodgin wrote:
Can't he just go expand? It's not like the cannons can uproot and move and kill his hatch, the only thing being denied is two mineral patches for a 4 cannon investment.

exactly what i was thinking. Finish the expansion, move drones if needed, make zerglings or some shit and counter.

Facultyadjutant

Sweden1876 Posts

December 31 2012 12:06 GMT

#819

On December 31 2012 21:04 edlover420 wrote:
I used to be GM NA/EU when I played actively and I am completely satisfied with all aspects of English cast. Many people apparently don't get it, Whiplash was SC2 PRO GAMER, SNM worked in BW for several years. Between them they have way more game and scene knowledge than other populist casters like TB and Husky. I can have stream minimized and just listen to proleague cast and I know everything that's going on, while I don't know what eSport I am watching when someone like TB is casting.

Don't give a damn, their voices aren't radio material for proleague

Would love to have the caster pair in tournaments, but not just for proleague