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NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
November 08 2012 09:41 GMT
#301
Poll: Do you recommend watching Life vs Baby game one?

If you got some time to spare (7)
 
50%

Nope (4)
 
29%

Yup (3)
 
21%

14 total votes

Your vote: Do you recommend watching Life vs Baby game one?

(Vote): Yup
(Vote): Nope
(Vote): If you got some time to spare

Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
akalarry
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1978 Posts
November 08 2012 09:42 GMT
#302
oh didn't let a ling in, it's okay, overlord scouts it anyways
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
November 08 2012 09:42 GMT
#303
On November 08 2012 18:40 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 18:38 Flonomenalz wrote:
On November 08 2012 18:37 vthree wrote:
On November 08 2012 18:35 Hall0wed wrote:
On November 08 2012 18:34 akalarry wrote:
isn't terran supposed to have the early game advantage according to mister browder? i've seen zerg win 10x more on two bases than i have seen terran do it to zerg


Are you implying Baby lost that game specifically due to balance? lol


No, what he is saying is the Browder said races have 'asymmetrical' balance. Terrans strong in the early/mid game and Zergs the late game. But as we can see with both Life and Leenock, zergs are just as good as terrans in the early/mid game and the better player wins.

This is not true. Terran still has a better early/mid game, assuming they hide their information as they normally should.

When a Ling scout scouts everything in your base, that advantage is nullified because then Zerg doesn't have to prepare for "everything".


Did you see the Leenock/Bogus game 1? Bogus knew Leenock was coming with roach/queens and still got contained pretty hard. I would say the early/mid game is pretty even if zerg wants to play aggressive.

But Bogus had NEVER seen that strat before in his first Code S game ever. Nobody had seen that strat before. If you see 2 port banshee coming at you for the first time ever, even if you scout it, you might not know the proper reaction, you might over make/ under make spores, transition to infestors instead of spire, etc.
I love crazymoving
Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
November 08 2012 09:42 GMT
#304
On November 08 2012 18:35 Shockk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 18:34 TheBB wrote:
Group H

      Life: 97.680%
      Ryung: 45.459%
      Vampire: 43.954%
      BaBy: 12.908%


What kind of stats are that? Win rates, win % predictions?


Ah, interesting. Mind sharing how you calculate that if you have the time?
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10132 Posts
November 08 2012 09:43 GMT
#305
That really was a BBQ.
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
November 08 2012 09:43 GMT
#306
Lol Artosis.
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
November 08 2012 09:43 GMT
#307
Wait, I did not see that sword before. Well, that settles it - Life for back-to-back GSLs; who the fuck will take it from him when he has a fucking sword?
AdministratorBreak the chains
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 08 2012 09:44 GMT
#308
On November 08 2012 18:40 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 18:36 Shellshock1122 wrote:
GSL S5 Code S Group H Match 1
Life vs Baby
Game 2
Map: Antiga Shipyard

0:00
Life spawns in the top left
Baby spawns in the bottom right

2:00
Hatch first for Life
CC first on the high ground for Baby
gas for Baby
gas for Life
pool for Life

3:00
drones and scvs

4:00
Ling speed started for Life
factory for Baby
2nd gas for Baby
reactor started for Baby

5:00
2nd factory started for Baby
Lair started for Life
double hellion production begins
tech lab started on rax next to 2nd Factory

6:00
Starport started for Baby
evo chamber for Life
2 more gas for Life
blue flame hellion research started for Baby
+1 carapace started for Life
medivac started for Baby

7:00
infestation pit started for Life
Baby lands his natural CC
Overlord scouts double fact
bunker started for Baby at the natural
2 spines building at the top of the natural ramp for Life
pathogen glands research started

8:00
4 blue flame hellion drop in the main
drop actually occurred before blue flame finished so nothing happens and 3 hellions escape
burrow research started for Life
banshee on the way for Baby
engineering bay finishes for Baby
3rd CC started for Baby
hellions redropped in the main after blue flame finishes

9:00
second group of hellions drive into the natural
infestors come out and fungal the hellions
ling runby in the natural of Baby

10:00
hellions are cleaned up
15 drones killed by hellions
10 scvs killed by the ling runby which was cleaned up by the banshee
3rd CC was cancelled and restarted
viking on the way for Baby
infestors tunneling across the map
2 banshee are out now
first siege tank is out for Baby
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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
November 08 2012 09:44 GMT
#309
15 workers killed, he didn't even tickled the zerg with that.
Nisyax
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Netherlands756 Posts
November 08 2012 09:44 GMT
#310
Go away infestors, stay out of the terrans base
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
November 08 2012 09:44 GMT
#311
On November 08 2012 18:44 MrCon wrote:
15 workers killed, he didn't even tickled the zerg with that.

Traded 8 hellions for it, and let a ling runby kill like 8-10 scvs as well.

I love crazymoving
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
November 08 2012 09:44 GMT
#312
Baby doesn't have the best reaction time.
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
November 08 2012 09:44 GMT
#313
On November 08 2012 18:42 Flonomenalz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 18:40 vthree wrote:
On November 08 2012 18:38 Flonomenalz wrote:
On November 08 2012 18:37 vthree wrote:
On November 08 2012 18:35 Hall0wed wrote:
On November 08 2012 18:34 akalarry wrote:
isn't terran supposed to have the early game advantage according to mister browder? i've seen zerg win 10x more on two bases than i have seen terran do it to zerg


Are you implying Baby lost that game specifically due to balance? lol


No, what he is saying is the Browder said races have 'asymmetrical' balance. Terrans strong in the early/mid game and Zergs the late game. But as we can see with both Life and Leenock, zergs are just as good as terrans in the early/mid game and the better player wins.

This is not true. Terran still has a better early/mid game, assuming they hide their information as they normally should.

When a Ling scout scouts everything in your base, that advantage is nullified because then Zerg doesn't have to prepare for "everything".


Did you see the Leenock/Bogus game 1? Bogus knew Leenock was coming with roach/queens and still got contained pretty hard. I would say the early/mid game is pretty even if zerg wants to play aggressive.

But Bogus had NEVER seen that strat before in his first Code S game ever. Nobody had seen that strat before. If you see 2 port banshee coming at you for the first time ever, even if you scout it, you might not know the proper reaction, you might over make/ under make spores, transition to infestors instead of spire, etc.


Not really... That build is a hard counter (created by Nestea) to counter the Mvp hellion/banshee. It wasn't that Bogus didn't know how to react. His units were just hard counter (hellions vs roaches, banshees vs Queens).
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
November 08 2012 09:45 GMT
#314
As a Terran, it's painful to watch Life play ZvT.
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Mackus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1681 Posts
November 08 2012 09:45 GMT
#315
Baby's macro is all over the place, it raises eyebrows how he got 44-4 at the MvP
TailsPrower
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada94 Posts
November 08 2012 09:45 GMT
#316
can terrans start making like 1 missile turret...
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
November 08 2012 09:45 GMT
#317
On November 08 2012 18:44 andaylin wrote:
Baby doesn't have the best reaction time.


Most people don't when they're doing hellion harass and suddenly there are infested terrans in their main.
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Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
November 08 2012 09:45 GMT
#318
On November 08 2012 18:44 andaylin wrote:
Baby doesn't have the best reaction time.


I think he was fighting pretty hard at the front of zerg's base
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
November 08 2012 09:46 GMT
#319
On November 08 2012 18:45 Mackus wrote:
Baby's macro is all over the place, it raises eyebrows how he got 44-4 at the MvP


Honestly, I think nerves factor in despite his experience - he looked much better in MvP.
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sudosu
Profile Joined October 2011
France120 Posts
November 08 2012 09:46 GMT
#320
In game 2 Life vs baby on antiga, baby did a drop with 4 hellions and got out just 5sec before his blue flame finished, then droppped again right after that with the blue flame, was it intensional (would be very smart at that level of play actually) or was is a timing error ? I'm doubtful.
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