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MyFirstProbe
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands294 Posts
October 25 2012 15:01 GMT
#2241
On October 25 2012 23:54 NotSorry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 23:52 vthree wrote:
On October 25 2012 23:44 NotSorry wrote:
On October 25 2012 23:41 Greenei wrote:
wheres your elephant now? weren't flash and jaedong and bisu supposed to be owning completely?

The elephant was BW pros as a whole, while you were staring at just those 3 you missed the stampede of rapage elsewhere.

If you actually read the article, it said that pretty much EVERY Kespa pro would be better than the GSL players. Again, the article was written a long time ago and I think eSF players and teams have gotten a lot more serious.

I would wait more than 1 season before calling it off, still very impressed with quite a few Kespa players even after such a short period of time.


Well, it has almost been half a year since the hybrid proleague started, so they had quite the bit of time to improve. I really think some players are going to get really good (Flash, JaeDong, Bisu) and some players are already really good, but there will also be KeSPA players who will nowhere near the level of the current GSL pros.
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
October 25 2012 15:02 GMT
#2242
On October 25 2012 23:19 Caihead wrote:
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On October 25 2012 23:15 NotSorry wrote:
Aww no Flash Royal Road v_v


He isn't in code S yet (never has been) so technically he's still capable of royal road-ing isn't he?

well its impossible to win roytal raoder if it isnt just code s, as it takes 2 seasons to get from code a to code s
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
Mackus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1681 Posts
October 25 2012 15:03 GMT
#2243
On October 26 2012 00:02 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 23:19 Caihead wrote:
On October 25 2012 23:15 NotSorry wrote:
Aww no Flash Royal Road v_v


He isn't in code S yet (never has been) so technically he's still capable of royal road-ing isn't he?

well its impossible to win roytal raoder if it isnt just code s, as it takes 2 seasons to get from code a to code s


Or just get seeded straight into Code S like Rain did?
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
October 25 2012 15:05 GMT
#2244
On October 25 2012 23:54 NotSorry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 23:52 vthree wrote:
On October 25 2012 23:44 NotSorry wrote:
On October 25 2012 23:41 Greenei wrote:
wheres your elephant now? weren't flash and jaedong and bisu supposed to be owning completely?

The elephant was BW pros as a whole, while you were staring at just those 3 you missed the stampede of rapage elsewhere.

If you actually read the article, it said that pretty much EVERY Kespa pro would be better than the GSL players. Again, the article was written a long time ago and I think eSF players and teams have gotten a lot more serious.

I would wait more than 1 season before calling it off, still very impressed with quite a few Kespa players even after such a short period of time.


To be fair the article does say "a few months", and it's been 5 months since the switch and they are nowhere close to dominating. In fact it's likely they never will. Kespa will just be very good, most likely better, okay I'm pretty sure they'll be much better eventually, but they won't crush everyone.
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L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-25 15:11:18
October 25 2012 15:10 GMT
#2245
On October 26 2012 00:03 Mackus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2012 00:02 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On October 25 2012 23:19 Caihead wrote:
On October 25 2012 23:15 NotSorry wrote:
Aww no Flash Royal Road v_v


He isn't in code S yet (never has been) so technically he's still capable of royal road-ing isn't he?

well its impossible to win roytal raoder if it isnt just code s, as it takes 2 seasons to get from code a to code s


Or just get seeded straight into Code S like Rain did?

yeah but that doesnt happen to many people. i think winning first time in code S = RR. but idk if people think they need to spend only 1 season in code a, or if you can spend 4 seasons in code a, then win code s first time, that doesnt seem like royal roader to me.

Winning the tournament a.s.a.p. seems good enough to me, aka through up/down first time, then win code S
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
October 25 2012 15:16 GMT
#2246
On October 26 2012 00:10 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2012 00:03 Mackus wrote:
On October 26 2012 00:02 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On October 25 2012 23:19 Caihead wrote:
On October 25 2012 23:15 NotSorry wrote:
Aww no Flash Royal Road v_v


He isn't in code S yet (never has been) so technically he's still capable of royal road-ing isn't he?

well its impossible to win roytal raoder if it isnt just code s, as it takes 2 seasons to get from code a to code s


Or just get seeded straight into Code S like Rain did?

yeah but that doesnt happen to many people. i think winning first time in code S = RR. but idk if people think they need to spend only 1 season in code a, or if you can spend 4 seasons in code a, then win code s first time, that doesnt seem like royal roader to me.

Winning the tournament a.s.a.p. seems good enough to me, aka through up/down first time, then win code S


Because royal road is a term from OSL, we should use that as our standard. In OSL, only the 'main' tournament counted. So in GSL, only the main tournament (Code S) should count.
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
October 25 2012 15:18 GMT
#2247
Interesting that it was the TvT's Flash lost
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
October 25 2012 15:33 GMT
#2248
On October 26 2012 00:18 bokchoi wrote:
Interesting that it was the TvT's Flash lost


Seems like he is still trying to figure out on how to deal with harass (how mamy units leave at expansions, etc)
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-25 15:34:52
October 25 2012 15:34 GMT
#2249
On October 25 2012 23:41 Greenei wrote:
wheres your elephant now? weren't flash and jaedong and bisu supposed to be owning completely?

the article is exaggeration and speculation about how BW skill cap was freaking high comparing to SC2. And that is a fact. However BW and SC2 appeared to be different games. So the fact that BW pros are already serious in code A speaks for this article. Kespa's regime cannot be argued and now it is just a matter of time.
sinigang
Profile Joined August 2012
360 Posts
October 25 2012 15:34 GMT
#2250
Oops, Flash lost, guess I'm not buying a GSL ticket this season.
Jormundr
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1678 Posts
October 25 2012 15:36 GMT
#2251
On October 25 2012 22:24 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 22:20 vthree wrote:
After watching Ryung v Flash today. I think Gom should host a special event called GomTvT during WCS Globals weekend.

And invite

1 Mvp
2 MMA
3 MKP
4 Flash
5 Bogus
6 Baby
7 Bbyong
8 Gumiho
9 Bomber
10 Hack
11 Byun
12 Maru
13 Yoda
14 Taeja
15 Polt
16 Happy
17 aLive
18 Ryung
19 Supernova
20 Jjakji

4 group of 5 in Bo1 (bo3 would take forever!!) round robin. Top 2 from each group goes into single elim brackets.

throw in kas, thorzain, lucifron (for foreigner viewers) and this might be one of the most watched events ;p
also needs Keen, and theStC

1 Mvp
2 MMA
3 MKP
4 Flash
5 Bogus
6 Baby
7 Bbyong
8 Gumiho
9 Bomber
10 Hack
11 Byun
12 Maru
13 Yoda
14 Taeja
15 Polt
16 Happy
17 aLive
18 Ryung
19 Supernova
20 Jjakji
21 Keen
22 theStC
23 Kas
24 Thorzain
25 Lucifron
26 BeastyQT
27 Demuslim
28 Fenix
29 GOODY
30 BitByBit

6 groups of 5
Fixed
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WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
October 25 2012 15:42 GMT
#2252
On October 26 2012 00:36 Jormundr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 22:24 opterown wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:20 vthree wrote:
After watching Ryung v Flash today. I think Gom should host a special event called GomTvT during WCS Globals weekend.

And invite

1 Mvp
2 MMA
3 MKP
4 Flash
5 Bogus
6 Baby
7 Bbyong
8 Gumiho
9 Bomber
10 Hack
11 Byun
12 Maru
13 Yoda
14 Taeja
15 Polt
16 Happy
17 aLive
18 Ryung
19 Supernova
20 Jjakji

4 group of 5 in Bo1 (bo3 would take forever!!) round robin. Top 2 from each group goes into single elim brackets.

throw in kas, thorzain, lucifron (for foreigner viewers) and this might be one of the most watched events ;p
also needs Keen, and theStC

...
28 Fenix
...

Is he even active nowadays? After joining IM with much ado he basically disappeared, and there were rumours of health issues iirc.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
October 25 2012 15:48 GMT
#2253
On October 26 2012 00:42 WigglingSquid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2012 00:36 Jormundr wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:24 opterown wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:20 vthree wrote:
After watching Ryung v Flash today. I think Gom should host a special event called GomTvT during WCS Globals weekend.

And invite

1 Mvp
2 MMA
3 MKP
4 Flash
5 Bogus
6 Baby
7 Bbyong
8 Gumiho
9 Bomber
10 Hack
11 Byun
12 Maru
13 Yoda
14 Taeja
15 Polt
16 Happy
17 aLive
18 Ryung
19 Supernova
20 Jjakji

4 group of 5 in Bo1 (bo3 would take forever!!) round robin. Top 2 from each group goes into single elim brackets.

throw in kas, thorzain, lucifron (for foreigner viewers) and this might be one of the most watched events ;p
also needs Keen, and theStC

...
28 Fenix
...

Is he even active nowadays? After joining IM with much ado he basically disappeared, and there were rumours of health issues iirc.


He popped up a few months ago and posted an old video of his days in IM as if he was going active again. I believe I saw a tweet of him trying to contact the IM coach as well about his return. Nothing seems to have happened since then.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
hitpoint
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1511 Posts
October 25 2012 15:55 GMT
#2254
On October 26 2012 00:36 Jormundr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 22:24 opterown wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:20 vthree wrote:
After watching Ryung v Flash today. I think Gom should host a special event called GomTvT during WCS Globals weekend.

And invite

1 Mvp
2 MMA
3 MKP
4 Flash
5 Bogus
6 Baby
7 Bbyong
8 Gumiho
9 Bomber
10 Hack
11 Byun
12 Maru
13 Yoda
14 Taeja
15 Polt
16 Happy
17 aLive
18 Ryung
19 Supernova
20 Jjakji

4 group of 5 in Bo1 (bo3 would take forever!!) round robin. Top 2 from each group goes into single elim brackets.

throw in kas, thorzain, lucifron (for foreigner viewers) and this might be one of the most watched events ;p
also needs Keen, and theStC

1 Mvp
2 MMA
3 MKP
4 Flash
5 Bogus
6 Baby
7 Bbyong
8 Gumiho
9 Bomber
10 Hack
11 Byun
12 Maru
13 Yoda
14 Taeja
15 Polt
16 Happy
17 aLive
18 Ryung
19 Supernova
20 Jjakji
21 Keen
22 theStC
23 Kas
24 Thorzain
25 Lucifron
26 BeastyQT
27 Demuslim
28 Fenix
29 GOODY
30 BitByBit

6 groups of 5
Fixed


Remove any of the bottom 3 and add Masa and Major imo.
It's spelled LOSE not LOOSE.
Kilby
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1069 Posts
October 25 2012 16:00 GMT
#2255
Sorry for the stupid question but what is a Royal road?

Oh and also, I'm glad to see Seed make it to the big S.
Embir
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland567 Posts
October 25 2012 16:01 GMT
#2256
Where is your elephant now?
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
October 25 2012 16:01 GMT
#2257
;_;..
Flash didnt make it...
Not buying that GSL ticket now
Aceace
Profile Joined June 2011
Turkey1305 Posts
October 25 2012 16:02 GMT
#2258
Goody should stay. He is not a great T player but he has a unique gamestyle and "somehow" he made it work. I'm not a Goody fan but I have huge respect on him.
Dün dündür, bugün bugündür. (Yesterday was yesterday, today is today)
yawnoC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3704 Posts
October 25 2012 16:02 GMT
#2259
NOOO! SuperNova was SO CLOSE
GG - UNiVeRsE is the best player in the WORLD
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
October 25 2012 16:03 GMT
#2260
If Flash wins MLG will he get a seed in to code s ?
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