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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 25 2012 13:24 GMT
#2201
On October 25 2012 22:21 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 22:13 vthree wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:10 X3GoldDot wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:08 liberate71 wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:06 X3GoldDot wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:04 liberate71 wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:02 Mackus wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:54 liberate71 wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:52 Mackus wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:47 Dodgin wrote:
[quote]

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/World_Cyber_Games_2012/Qualifiers/Korea/Main_Tournament

also 2 recent all kills in GSTL

silver medal in homestory cup 5 too


WCG is nothing these days though with WCS taking all the spotlight and I said Individual leagues!

If I were to look at tournaments to seed players on it would be Last and ironically First - MLG finalist but foreigners bring the viewers in I think we'll see someone completely unexpected.


Last? Pity Seed? The Finals are Bo7... what a waste.


I can imagine the finals when he's 2-0 up and everyone shouts JUST DONT WIN THIS GAME :D

I think Nestea is guaranteed a seed but it's hard to see where the 2nd seed comes from - Sen has a shout making the WCS Finals from Asian bracket but not as big as a shout as others.


Whilst I can see why they would seed NesTea, I can also see people rolling their eyes and claiming its a waste, especially if he gets KO'd in Ro32 or even Ro16.

If he should win, it would be the most amazing thing ever.

edit: Couldn't be worse than seeding IdrA


if they seed nestea now i see him going 0-4 easily, idra at least took a game in code S


Him going 0-4 last season was surprising, I wouldnt say he would "easily" get 0-4'd at all...

+ Show Spoiler +
He beat last weekends GSL final runner up today in a Bo3...


it wasnt surprising in the slightest, i expected it, so did many, if you go back to the thread, many were already stating he was in a slump, and he only got many votes to advance the group due to fans trying to be optimistic, not because of reality. the major upset was sparta 2-1ing nestea


I don't think Nestea is actually 'worse'. Others have gotten better and the maps and meta favor the longer games. Nestea is still a beast until the 13-15 minute mark. He destroyed Mvp today while Mvp used the same builds he did against Life. Of course, Nestea also practices a lot with Mvp and can predict his openings better.


That's part of it but Nestea has seen better days. If you look closely at some of his games he's seemed to have lost his decision-making edge as well. Even with lesser mechanics there's no reason why he should be getting torn apart by Fantasy and Last in the early game, or letting Byun bunker block his ramp like a chump. There's no reason why you would roach drop a bio terran like he did against Puma at IEM. Or not have killed that god damn 4th base in the team league against Byul (never forgetting this one...).


Why did you have to remind me about that team league match, ugh
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 25 2012 13:24 GMT
#2202
On October 25 2012 22:20 vthree wrote:
After watching Ryung v Flash today. I think Gom should host a special event called GomTvT during WCS Globals weekend.

And invite

1 Mvp
2 MMA
3 MKP
4 Flash
5 Bogus
6 Baby
7 Bbyong
8 Gumiho
9 Bomber
10 Hack
11 Byun
12 Maru
13 Yoda
14 Taeja
15 Polt
16 Happy
17 aLive
18 Ryung
19 Supernova
20 Jjakji

4 group of 5 in Bo1 (bo3 would take forever!!) round robin. Top 2 from each group goes into single elim brackets.

throw in kas, thorzain, lucifron (for foreigner viewers) and this might be one of the most watched events ;p
also needs Keen, and theStC
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
October 25 2012 13:25 GMT
#2203
On October 25 2012 22:20 vthree wrote:
After watching Ryung v Flash today. I think Gom should host a special event called GomTvT during WCS Globals weekend.

And invite

1 Mvp
2 MMA
3 MKP
4 Flash
5 Bogus
6 Baby
7 Bbyong
8 Gumiho
9 Bomber
10 Hack
11 Byun
12 Maru
13 Yoda
14 Taeja
15 Polt
16 Happy
17 aLive
18 Ryung
19 Supernova
20 Jjakji

4 group of 5 in Bo1 (bo3 would take forever!!) round robin. Top 2 from each group goes into single elim brackets.


This would take approximately 76 hours to finish
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liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
October 25 2012 13:25 GMT
#2204
On October 25 2012 22:24 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 22:20 vthree wrote:
After watching Ryung v Flash today. I think Gom should host a special event called GomTvT during WCS Globals weekend.

And invite

1 Mvp
2 MMA
3 MKP
4 Flash
5 Bogus
6 Baby
7 Bbyong
8 Gumiho
9 Bomber
10 Hack
11 Byun
12 Maru
13 Yoda
14 Taeja
15 Polt
16 Happy
17 aLive
18 Ryung
19 Supernova
20 Jjakji

4 group of 5 in Bo1 (bo3 would take forever!!) round robin. Top 2 from each group goes into single elim brackets.

I'd be ok with this :D


Every Bo3 has to have Whirlwind as game 3
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
October 25 2012 13:27 GMT
#2205
On October 25 2012 22:24 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 22:20 vthree wrote:
After watching Ryung v Flash today. I think Gom should host a special event called GomTvT during WCS Globals weekend.

And invite

1 Mvp
2 MMA
3 MKP
4 Flash
5 Bogus
6 Baby
7 Bbyong
8 Gumiho
9 Bomber
10 Hack
11 Byun
12 Maru
13 Yoda
14 Taeja
15 Polt
16 Happy
17 aLive
18 Ryung
19 Supernova
20 Jjakji

4 group of 5 in Bo1 (bo3 would take forever!!) round robin. Top 2 from each group goes into single elim brackets.

throw in kas, thorzain, lucifron (for foreigner viewers) and this might be one of the most watched events ;p
also needs Keen, and theStC


lucifron is actually at WCS (go terrans!!!), I was thinking of a 32 man field but I don't think casters can survive that
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
October 25 2012 13:28 GMT
#2206
On October 25 2012 22:27 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 22:24 opterown wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:20 vthree wrote:
After watching Ryung v Flash today. I think Gom should host a special event called GomTvT during WCS Globals weekend.

And invite

1 Mvp
2 MMA
3 MKP
4 Flash
5 Bogus
6 Baby
7 Bbyong
8 Gumiho
9 Bomber
10 Hack
11 Byun
12 Maru
13 Yoda
14 Taeja
15 Polt
16 Happy
17 aLive
18 Ryung
19 Supernova
20 Jjakji

4 group of 5 in Bo1 (bo3 would take forever!!) round robin. Top 2 from each group goes into single elim brackets.

throw in kas, thorzain, lucifron (for foreigner viewers) and this might be one of the most watched events ;p
also needs Keen, and theStC


lucifron is actually at WCS (go terrans!!!), I was thinking of a 32 man field but I don't think casters can survive that


+926 for adding Keen. Also, qxc for sheer randomness
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Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
October 25 2012 13:29 GMT
#2207
needs more Goody
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
October 25 2012 13:29 GMT
#2208
On October 25 2012 22:28 mikedebo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 22:27 vthree wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:24 opterown wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:20 vthree wrote:
After watching Ryung v Flash today. I think Gom should host a special event called GomTvT during WCS Globals weekend.

And invite

1 Mvp
2 MMA
3 MKP
4 Flash
5 Bogus
6 Baby
7 Bbyong
8 Gumiho
9 Bomber
10 Hack
11 Byun
12 Maru
13 Yoda
14 Taeja
15 Polt
16 Happy
17 aLive
18 Ryung
19 Supernova
20 Jjakji

4 group of 5 in Bo1 (bo3 would take forever!!) round robin. Top 2 from each group goes into single elim brackets.

throw in kas, thorzain, lucifron (for foreigner viewers) and this might be one of the most watched events ;p
also needs Keen, and theStC


lucifron is actually at WCS (go terrans!!!), I was thinking of a 32 man field but I don't think casters can survive that


+926 for adding Keen. Also, qxc for sheer randomness


Oops, Keen should definitely be in there. Guess we will have to have 24 terran field and 4 groups of 6 instead.
i.of.the.storm
Profile Joined April 2009
United States795 Posts
October 25 2012 13:33 GMT
#2209
On October 25 2012 22:20 vthree wrote:
After watching Ryung v Flash today. I think Gom should host a special event called GomTvT during WCS Globals weekend.

And invite

1 Mvp
2 MMA
3 MKP
4 Flash
5 Bogus
6 Baby
7 Bbyong
8 Gumiho
9 Bomber
10 Hack
11 Byun
12 Maru
13 Yoda
14 Taeja
15 Polt
16 Happy
17 aLive
18 Ryung
19 Supernova
20 Jjakji

4 group of 5 in Bo1 (bo3 would take forever!!) round robin. Top 2 from each group goes into single elim brackets.


I would pay for this.
Maru - The Terran hope is alive!
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
October 25 2012 13:35 GMT
#2210
GOMTvT... such a sweet memory *sigh*
Writer for Red bull (Fr) and Iron Squid (En/Fr) @ClemLeLfe on twitter
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
October 25 2012 13:36 GMT
#2211
On October 25 2012 22:33 i.of.the.storm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 22:20 vthree wrote:
After watching Ryung v Flash today. I think Gom should host a special event called GomTvT during WCS Globals weekend.

And invite

1 Mvp
2 MMA
3 MKP
4 Flash
5 Bogus
6 Baby
7 Bbyong
8 Gumiho
9 Bomber
10 Hack
11 Byun
12 Maru
13 Yoda
14 Taeja
15 Polt
16 Happy
17 aLive
18 Ryung
19 Supernova
20 Jjakji

4 group of 5 in Bo1 (bo3 would take forever!!) round robin. Top 2 from each group goes into single elim brackets.


I would pay for this.

i would pay not to see this.
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
October 25 2012 13:36 GMT
#2212
On October 25 2012 22:16 Mackus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 22:13 vthree wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:10 X3GoldDot wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:08 liberate71 wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:06 X3GoldDot wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:04 liberate71 wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:02 Mackus wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:54 liberate71 wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:52 Mackus wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:47 Dodgin wrote:
[quote]

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/World_Cyber_Games_2012/Qualifiers/Korea/Main_Tournament

also 2 recent all kills in GSTL

silver medal in homestory cup 5 too


WCG is nothing these days though with WCS taking all the spotlight and I said Individual leagues!

If I were to look at tournaments to seed players on it would be Last and ironically First - MLG finalist but foreigners bring the viewers in I think we'll see someone completely unexpected.


Last? Pity Seed? The Finals are Bo7... what a waste.


I can imagine the finals when he's 2-0 up and everyone shouts JUST DONT WIN THIS GAME :D

I think Nestea is guaranteed a seed but it's hard to see where the 2nd seed comes from - Sen has a shout making the WCS Finals from Asian bracket but not as big as a shout as others.


Whilst I can see why they would seed NesTea, I can also see people rolling their eyes and claiming its a waste, especially if he gets KO'd in Ro32 or even Ro16.

If he should win, it would be the most amazing thing ever.

edit: Couldn't be worse than seeding IdrA


if they seed nestea now i see him going 0-4 easily, idra at least took a game in code S


Him going 0-4 last season was surprising, I wouldnt say he would "easily" get 0-4'd at all...

+ Show Spoiler +
He beat last weekends GSL final runner up today in a Bo3...


it wasnt surprising in the slightest, i expected it, so did many, if you go back to the thread, many were already stating he was in a slump, and he only got many votes to advance the group due to fans trying to be optimistic, not because of reality. the major upset was sparta 2-1ing nestea


I don't think Nestea is actually 'worse'. Others have gotten better and the maps and meta favor the longer games. Nestea is still a beast until the 13-15 minute mark. He destroyed Mvp today while Mvp used the same builds he did against Life. Of course, Nestea also practices a lot with Mvp and can predict his openings better.


I'm now expecting someone to say Nestea is a PatchZerg - Where did you see this practice? And who's POV was it from?

He's still very good zerg pre-hive, which is what he always was. We saw this even in his Code A match this season. He absolutely dominated all the way through the early to mid stages of the game with muta/ling and then went beyond full foreigner at hive stage.

It wasn't a problem when he was winning because the games never really went to hive. Now when all zergs need to go hive to win games, he's not winning anymore. He's not doing anything worse or better than when he won back-to-back GSLs, the game just evolved past him.
Pocky52
Profile Joined November 2011
United States463 Posts
October 25 2012 13:41 GMT
#2213
Noooooooooooooooooooooooo supernova TT
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
October 25 2012 13:56 GMT
#2214
On October 25 2012 22:20 vthree wrote:
After watching Ryung v Flash today. I think Gom should host a special event called GomTvT during WCS Globals weekend.

And invite

1 Mvp
2 MMA
3 MKP
4 Flash
5 Bogus
6 Baby
7 Bbyong
8 Gumiho
9 Bomber
10 Hack
11 Byun
12 Maru
13 Yoda
14 Taeja
15 Polt
16 Happy
17 aLive
18 Ryung
19 Supernova
20 Jjakji

4 group of 5 in Bo1 (bo3 would take forever!!) round robin. Top 2 from each group goes into single elim brackets.

this will take over a week of 24/7 playtime to finish... also sounds boring as fuck with repetetiveness x.x
ChrysaliS_
Profile Joined January 2011
United States261 Posts
October 25 2012 13:59 GMT
#2215
Bo1 groups are retarded. Gom really needs to come up with a better up and down system.
Chrysalis.145
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
October 25 2012 14:01 GMT
#2216
aw flash
:)
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
October 25 2012 14:07 GMT
#2217
Gdi flash get some better coaching to tell you to make planetary fortress.
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Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
October 25 2012 14:07 GMT
#2218
On October 25 2012 22:59 ChrysaliS_ wrote:
Bo1 groups are retarded. Gom really needs to come up with a better up and down system.

The players know that UnD is a lottery, so they should just win their Code A matches to get into Code S
Digitalis
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1043 Posts
October 25 2012 14:09 GMT
#2219
On October 25 2012 22:59 ChrysaliS_ wrote:
Bo1 groups are retarded. Gom really needs to come up with a better up and down system.


it designed that way so more people have a chance to get into code S
the community complained last time that the format was too hard to break into

but yes I agree BO1 sucks
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
October 25 2012 14:11 GMT
#2220
On October 25 2012 23:07 Vorenius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 22:59 ChrysaliS_ wrote:
Bo1 groups are retarded. Gom really needs to come up with a better up and down system.

The players know that UnD is a lottery, so they should just win their Code A matches to get into Code S


A charity lottery, actually. They failed in the last stage of Code A but get a wildcard chance to get into Code S. Pretty sure Bo1 is fair for that, especially for groups of 5 and 6.
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