• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 09:38
CET 15:38
KST 23:38
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !10Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2
StarCraft 2
General
The Grack before Christmas Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Micro Lags When Playing SC2? When will we find out if there are more tournament
Tourneys
$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1 RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Anyone remember me from 2000s Bnet EAST server?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] LB QuarterFinals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] WB SEMIFINALS - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread 2025 POECurrency Christmas POE 2 Update 0.4.0 Curr 2025 IGGM Merry Christmas ARC Raiders Items Sale 2025 IGGM Christmas Diablo 4 Season 11 Items Sale 2025 IGGM Monopoly Go Christmas Sale
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread How Does UI/UX Design Influence User Trust? US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
The (Hidden) Drug Problem in…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1271 users

[Up/Down] Group D 2012 GSL Season 5 - Page 110

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 108 109 110 111 112 117 Next
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
October 25 2012 13:10 GMT
#2181
On October 25 2012 22:09 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 22:08 X3GoldDot wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:08 Mackus wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:06 X3GoldDot wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:04 liberate71 wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:02 Mackus wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:54 liberate71 wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:52 Mackus wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:47 Dodgin wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:47 Mackus wrote:
[quote]

I've seen his name mentioned before but why does he deserve a seed? He's really unproven in the individual leagues


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/World_Cyber_Games_2012/Qualifiers/Korea/Main_Tournament

also 2 recent all kills in GSTL

silver medal in homestory cup 5 too


WCG is nothing these days though with WCS taking all the spotlight and I said Individual leagues!

If I were to look at tournaments to seed players on it would be Last and ironically First - MLG finalist but foreigners bring the viewers in I think we'll see someone completely unexpected.


Last? Pity Seed? The Finals are Bo7... what a waste.


I can imagine the finals when he's 2-0 up and everyone shouts JUST DONT WIN THIS GAME :D

I think Nestea is guaranteed a seed but it's hard to see where the 2nd seed comes from - Sen has a shout making the WCS Finals from Asian bracket but not as big as a shout as others.


Whilst I can see why they would seed NesTea, I can also see people rolling their eyes and claiming its a waste, especially if he gets KO'd in Ro32 or even Ro16.

If he should win, it would be the most amazing thing ever.

edit: Couldn't be worse than seeding IdrA


if they seed nestea now i see him going 0-4 easily, idra at least took a game in code S


Where does this logic come from considering Nestea was in the same group as Idra back then and topped the group?


because nestea was better back then, much better infact than now, as of now he is worse than idra back in january


no he isn't. Not even close


well, compared to the rest of code S of course. If he was seeded and advanced to the ro16, id be incredibly surprised
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
October 25 2012 13:11 GMT
#2182
On October 25 2012 22:10 X3GoldDot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 22:08 liberate71 wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:06 X3GoldDot wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:04 liberate71 wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:02 Mackus wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:54 liberate71 wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:52 Mackus wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:47 Dodgin wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:47 Mackus wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:45 opterown wrote:
[quote]
I'm hedging my bets on YongHwa


I've seen his name mentioned before but why does he deserve a seed? He's really unproven in the individual leagues


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/World_Cyber_Games_2012/Qualifiers/Korea/Main_Tournament

also 2 recent all kills in GSTL

silver medal in homestory cup 5 too


WCG is nothing these days though with WCS taking all the spotlight and I said Individual leagues!

If I were to look at tournaments to seed players on it would be Last and ironically First - MLG finalist but foreigners bring the viewers in I think we'll see someone completely unexpected.


Last? Pity Seed? The Finals are Bo7... what a waste.


I can imagine the finals when he's 2-0 up and everyone shouts JUST DONT WIN THIS GAME :D

I think Nestea is guaranteed a seed but it's hard to see where the 2nd seed comes from - Sen has a shout making the WCS Finals from Asian bracket but not as big as a shout as others.


Whilst I can see why they would seed NesTea, I can also see people rolling their eyes and claiming its a waste, especially if he gets KO'd in Ro32 or even Ro16.

If he should win, it would be the most amazing thing ever.

edit: Couldn't be worse than seeding IdrA


if they seed nestea now i see him going 0-4 easily, idra at least took a game in code S


Him going 0-4 last season was surprising, I wouldnt say he would "easily" get 0-4'd at all...

+ Show Spoiler +
He beat last weekends GSL final runner up today in a Bo3...


it wasnt surprising in the slightest, i expected it, so did many, if you go back to the thread, many were already stating he was in a slump, and he only got many votes to advance the group due to fans trying to be optimistic, not because of reality. the major upset was sparta 2-1ing nestea


Not expecting him to advance, and expecting him to go 0-4 are 2 completely different things.
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-25 13:12:08
October 25 2012 13:11 GMT
#2183
On October 25 2012 22:11 liberate71 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 22:10 X3GoldDot wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:08 liberate71 wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:06 X3GoldDot wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:04 liberate71 wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:02 Mackus wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:54 liberate71 wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:52 Mackus wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:47 Dodgin wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:47 Mackus wrote:
[quote]

I've seen his name mentioned before but why does he deserve a seed? He's really unproven in the individual leagues


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/World_Cyber_Games_2012/Qualifiers/Korea/Main_Tournament

also 2 recent all kills in GSTL

silver medal in homestory cup 5 too


WCG is nothing these days though with WCS taking all the spotlight and I said Individual leagues!

If I were to look at tournaments to seed players on it would be Last and ironically First - MLG finalist but foreigners bring the viewers in I think we'll see someone completely unexpected.


Last? Pity Seed? The Finals are Bo7... what a waste.


I can imagine the finals when he's 2-0 up and everyone shouts JUST DONT WIN THIS GAME :D

I think Nestea is guaranteed a seed but it's hard to see where the 2nd seed comes from - Sen has a shout making the WCS Finals from Asian bracket but not as big as a shout as others.


Whilst I can see why they would seed NesTea, I can also see people rolling their eyes and claiming its a waste, especially if he gets KO'd in Ro32 or even Ro16.

If he should win, it would be the most amazing thing ever.

edit: Couldn't be worse than seeding IdrA


if they seed nestea now i see him going 0-4 easily, idra at least took a game in code S


Him going 0-4 last season was surprising, I wouldnt say he would "easily" get 0-4'd at all...

+ Show Spoiler +
He beat last weekends GSL final runner up today in a Bo3...


it wasnt surprising in the slightest, i expected it, so did many, if you go back to the thread, many were already stating he was in a slump, and he only got many votes to advance the group due to fans trying to be optimistic, not because of reality. the major upset was sparta 2-1ing nestea


Not expecting him to advance, and expecting him to go 0-4 are 2 completely different things.


i would expect him to go 0-4 in an average group
edit: also hes not seeded yet so why are we even arguing about this
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
Mackus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1681 Posts
October 25 2012 13:11 GMT
#2184
On October 25 2012 22:08 X3GoldDot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 22:08 Mackus wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:06 X3GoldDot wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:04 liberate71 wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:02 Mackus wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:54 liberate71 wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:52 Mackus wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:47 Dodgin wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:47 Mackus wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:45 opterown wrote:
[quote]
I'm hedging my bets on YongHwa


I've seen his name mentioned before but why does he deserve a seed? He's really unproven in the individual leagues


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/World_Cyber_Games_2012/Qualifiers/Korea/Main_Tournament

also 2 recent all kills in GSTL

silver medal in homestory cup 5 too


WCG is nothing these days though with WCS taking all the spotlight and I said Individual leagues!

If I were to look at tournaments to seed players on it would be Last and ironically First - MLG finalist but foreigners bring the viewers in I think we'll see someone completely unexpected.


Last? Pity Seed? The Finals are Bo7... what a waste.


I can imagine the finals when he's 2-0 up and everyone shouts JUST DONT WIN THIS GAME :D

I think Nestea is guaranteed a seed but it's hard to see where the 2nd seed comes from - Sen has a shout making the WCS Finals from Asian bracket but not as big as a shout as others.


Whilst I can see why they would seed NesTea, I can also see people rolling their eyes and claiming its a waste, especially if he gets KO'd in Ro32 or even Ro16.

If he should win, it would be the most amazing thing ever.

edit: Couldn't be worse than seeding IdrA


if they seed nestea now i see him going 0-4 easily, idra at least took a game in code S


Where does this logic come from considering Nestea was in the same group as Idra back then and topped the group?


because nestea was better back then, much better infact than now, as of now he is worse than idra back in january


That old saying "Form is temporary, class is permanent" losing makes you stronger.
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
October 25 2012 13:12 GMT
#2185
They should seed ST.Legend.
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
Acer1791
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany182 Posts
October 25 2012 13:12 GMT
#2186
On October 25 2012 22:10 X3GoldDot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 22:09 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:08 X3GoldDot wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:08 Mackus wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:06 X3GoldDot wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:04 liberate71 wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:02 Mackus wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:54 liberate71 wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:52 Mackus wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:47 Dodgin wrote:
[quote]

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/World_Cyber_Games_2012/Qualifiers/Korea/Main_Tournament

also 2 recent all kills in GSTL

silver medal in homestory cup 5 too


WCG is nothing these days though with WCS taking all the spotlight and I said Individual leagues!

If I were to look at tournaments to seed players on it would be Last and ironically First - MLG finalist but foreigners bring the viewers in I think we'll see someone completely unexpected.


Last? Pity Seed? The Finals are Bo7... what a waste.


I can imagine the finals when he's 2-0 up and everyone shouts JUST DONT WIN THIS GAME :D

I think Nestea is guaranteed a seed but it's hard to see where the 2nd seed comes from - Sen has a shout making the WCS Finals from Asian bracket but not as big as a shout as others.


Whilst I can see why they would seed NesTea, I can also see people rolling their eyes and claiming its a waste, especially if he gets KO'd in Ro32 or even Ro16.

If he should win, it would be the most amazing thing ever.

edit: Couldn't be worse than seeding IdrA


if they seed nestea now i see him going 0-4 easily, idra at least took a game in code S


Where does this logic come from considering Nestea was in the same group as Idra back then and topped the group?


because nestea was better back then, much better infact than now, as of now he is worse than idra back in january


no he isn't. Not even close


well, compared to the rest of code S of course. If he was seeded and advanced to the ro16, id be incredibly surprised


yeah i think so too, nestea just isnt code s material anymore. i hope they seed one of the big kespa zerg, effort would be really nice to see, maybe soulkey.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
October 25 2012 13:13 GMT
#2187
On October 25 2012 22:10 X3GoldDot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 22:08 liberate71 wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:06 X3GoldDot wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:04 liberate71 wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:02 Mackus wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:54 liberate71 wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:52 Mackus wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:47 Dodgin wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:47 Mackus wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:45 opterown wrote:
[quote]
I'm hedging my bets on YongHwa


I've seen his name mentioned before but why does he deserve a seed? He's really unproven in the individual leagues


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/World_Cyber_Games_2012/Qualifiers/Korea/Main_Tournament

also 2 recent all kills in GSTL

silver medal in homestory cup 5 too


WCG is nothing these days though with WCS taking all the spotlight and I said Individual leagues!

If I were to look at tournaments to seed players on it would be Last and ironically First - MLG finalist but foreigners bring the viewers in I think we'll see someone completely unexpected.


Last? Pity Seed? The Finals are Bo7... what a waste.


I can imagine the finals when he's 2-0 up and everyone shouts JUST DONT WIN THIS GAME :D

I think Nestea is guaranteed a seed but it's hard to see where the 2nd seed comes from - Sen has a shout making the WCS Finals from Asian bracket but not as big as a shout as others.


Whilst I can see why they would seed NesTea, I can also see people rolling their eyes and claiming its a waste, especially if he gets KO'd in Ro32 or even Ro16.

If he should win, it would be the most amazing thing ever.

edit: Couldn't be worse than seeding IdrA


if they seed nestea now i see him going 0-4 easily, idra at least took a game in code S


Him going 0-4 last season was surprising, I wouldnt say he would "easily" get 0-4'd at all...

+ Show Spoiler +
He beat last weekends GSL final runner up today in a Bo3...


it wasnt surprising in the slightest, i expected it, so did many, if you go back to the thread, many were already stating he was in a slump, and he only got many votes to advance the group due to fans trying to be optimistic, not because of reality. the major upset was sparta 2-1ing nestea


I don't think Nestea is actually 'worse'. Others have gotten better and the maps and meta favor the longer games. Nestea is still a beast until the 13-15 minute mark. He destroyed Mvp today while Mvp used the same builds he did against Life. Of course, Nestea also practices a lot with Mvp and can predict his openings better.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 25 2012 13:14 GMT
#2188
if nestea wins WEM i'm happy for him to get a seed; otherwise i don't think it's really justified
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
October 25 2012 13:15 GMT
#2189
On October 25 2012 22:13 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 22:10 X3GoldDot wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:08 liberate71 wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:06 X3GoldDot wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:04 liberate71 wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:02 Mackus wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:54 liberate71 wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:52 Mackus wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:47 Dodgin wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:47 Mackus wrote:
[quote]

I've seen his name mentioned before but why does he deserve a seed? He's really unproven in the individual leagues


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/World_Cyber_Games_2012/Qualifiers/Korea/Main_Tournament

also 2 recent all kills in GSTL

silver medal in homestory cup 5 too


WCG is nothing these days though with WCS taking all the spotlight and I said Individual leagues!

If I were to look at tournaments to seed players on it would be Last and ironically First - MLG finalist but foreigners bring the viewers in I think we'll see someone completely unexpected.


Last? Pity Seed? The Finals are Bo7... what a waste.


I can imagine the finals when he's 2-0 up and everyone shouts JUST DONT WIN THIS GAME :D

I think Nestea is guaranteed a seed but it's hard to see where the 2nd seed comes from - Sen has a shout making the WCS Finals from Asian bracket but not as big as a shout as others.


Whilst I can see why they would seed NesTea, I can also see people rolling their eyes and claiming its a waste, especially if he gets KO'd in Ro32 or even Ro16.

If he should win, it would be the most amazing thing ever.

edit: Couldn't be worse than seeding IdrA


if they seed nestea now i see him going 0-4 easily, idra at least took a game in code S


Him going 0-4 last season was surprising, I wouldnt say he would "easily" get 0-4'd at all...

+ Show Spoiler +
He beat last weekends GSL final runner up today in a Bo3...


it wasnt surprising in the slightest, i expected it, so did many, if you go back to the thread, many were already stating he was in a slump, and he only got many votes to advance the group due to fans trying to be optimistic, not because of reality. the major upset was sparta 2-1ing nestea


I don't think Nestea is actually 'worse'. Others have gotten better and the maps and meta favor the longer games. Nestea is still a beast until the 13-15 minute mark. He destroyed Mvp today while Mvp used the same builds he did against Life. Of course, Nestea also practices a lot with Mvp and can predict his openings better.


yeah, but when the competition raises, you raise too or you go down, and he definitly became worse, just the combination of kespa players coming in, and the general competition increasing as well as nestea slumping is the reason why he doesnt appear code s level anymore
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
Mackus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1681 Posts
October 25 2012 13:16 GMT
#2190
On October 25 2012 22:13 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 22:10 X3GoldDot wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:08 liberate71 wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:06 X3GoldDot wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:04 liberate71 wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:02 Mackus wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:54 liberate71 wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:52 Mackus wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:47 Dodgin wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:47 Mackus wrote:
[quote]

I've seen his name mentioned before but why does he deserve a seed? He's really unproven in the individual leagues


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/World_Cyber_Games_2012/Qualifiers/Korea/Main_Tournament

also 2 recent all kills in GSTL

silver medal in homestory cup 5 too


WCG is nothing these days though with WCS taking all the spotlight and I said Individual leagues!

If I were to look at tournaments to seed players on it would be Last and ironically First - MLG finalist but foreigners bring the viewers in I think we'll see someone completely unexpected.


Last? Pity Seed? The Finals are Bo7... what a waste.


I can imagine the finals when he's 2-0 up and everyone shouts JUST DONT WIN THIS GAME :D

I think Nestea is guaranteed a seed but it's hard to see where the 2nd seed comes from - Sen has a shout making the WCS Finals from Asian bracket but not as big as a shout as others.


Whilst I can see why they would seed NesTea, I can also see people rolling their eyes and claiming its a waste, especially if he gets KO'd in Ro32 or even Ro16.

If he should win, it would be the most amazing thing ever.

edit: Couldn't be worse than seeding IdrA


if they seed nestea now i see him going 0-4 easily, idra at least took a game in code S


Him going 0-4 last season was surprising, I wouldnt say he would "easily" get 0-4'd at all...

+ Show Spoiler +
He beat last weekends GSL final runner up today in a Bo3...


it wasnt surprising in the slightest, i expected it, so did many, if you go back to the thread, many were already stating he was in a slump, and he only got many votes to advance the group due to fans trying to be optimistic, not because of reality. the major upset was sparta 2-1ing nestea


I don't think Nestea is actually 'worse'. Others have gotten better and the maps and meta favor the longer games. Nestea is still a beast until the 13-15 minute mark. He destroyed Mvp today while Mvp used the same builds he did against Life. Of course, Nestea also practices a lot with Mvp and can predict his openings better.


I'm now expecting someone to say Nestea is a PatchZerg - Where did you see this practice? And who's POV was it from?
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
October 25 2012 13:18 GMT
#2191
On October 25 2012 22:16 Mackus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 22:13 vthree wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:10 X3GoldDot wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:08 liberate71 wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:06 X3GoldDot wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:04 liberate71 wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:02 Mackus wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:54 liberate71 wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:52 Mackus wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:47 Dodgin wrote:
[quote]

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/World_Cyber_Games_2012/Qualifiers/Korea/Main_Tournament

also 2 recent all kills in GSTL

silver medal in homestory cup 5 too


WCG is nothing these days though with WCS taking all the spotlight and I said Individual leagues!

If I were to look at tournaments to seed players on it would be Last and ironically First - MLG finalist but foreigners bring the viewers in I think we'll see someone completely unexpected.


Last? Pity Seed? The Finals are Bo7... what a waste.


I can imagine the finals when he's 2-0 up and everyone shouts JUST DONT WIN THIS GAME :D

I think Nestea is guaranteed a seed but it's hard to see where the 2nd seed comes from - Sen has a shout making the WCS Finals from Asian bracket but not as big as a shout as others.


Whilst I can see why they would seed NesTea, I can also see people rolling their eyes and claiming its a waste, especially if he gets KO'd in Ro32 or even Ro16.

If he should win, it would be the most amazing thing ever.

edit: Couldn't be worse than seeding IdrA


if they seed nestea now i see him going 0-4 easily, idra at least took a game in code S


Him going 0-4 last season was surprising, I wouldnt say he would "easily" get 0-4'd at all...

+ Show Spoiler +
He beat last weekends GSL final runner up today in a Bo3...


it wasnt surprising in the slightest, i expected it, so did many, if you go back to the thread, many were already stating he was in a slump, and he only got many votes to advance the group due to fans trying to be optimistic, not because of reality. the major upset was sparta 2-1ing nestea


I don't think Nestea is actually 'worse'. Others have gotten better and the maps and meta favor the longer games. Nestea is still a beast until the 13-15 minute mark. He destroyed Mvp today while Mvp used the same builds he did against Life. Of course, Nestea also practices a lot with Mvp and can predict his openings better.


I'm now expecting someone to say Nestea is a PatchZerg - Where did you see this practice? And who's POV was it from?


He didnt see the practice, they played a proper match, it should have been spoilered ;P
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
October 25 2012 13:18 GMT
#2192
On October 25 2012 22:16 Mackus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 22:13 vthree wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:10 X3GoldDot wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:08 liberate71 wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:06 X3GoldDot wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:04 liberate71 wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:02 Mackus wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:54 liberate71 wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:52 Mackus wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:47 Dodgin wrote:
[quote]

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/World_Cyber_Games_2012/Qualifiers/Korea/Main_Tournament

also 2 recent all kills in GSTL

silver medal in homestory cup 5 too


WCG is nothing these days though with WCS taking all the spotlight and I said Individual leagues!

If I were to look at tournaments to seed players on it would be Last and ironically First - MLG finalist but foreigners bring the viewers in I think we'll see someone completely unexpected.


Last? Pity Seed? The Finals are Bo7... what a waste.


I can imagine the finals when he's 2-0 up and everyone shouts JUST DONT WIN THIS GAME :D

I think Nestea is guaranteed a seed but it's hard to see where the 2nd seed comes from - Sen has a shout making the WCS Finals from Asian bracket but not as big as a shout as others.


Whilst I can see why they would seed NesTea, I can also see people rolling their eyes and claiming its a waste, especially if he gets KO'd in Ro32 or even Ro16.

If he should win, it would be the most amazing thing ever.

edit: Couldn't be worse than seeding IdrA


if they seed nestea now i see him going 0-4 easily, idra at least took a game in code S


Him going 0-4 last season was surprising, I wouldnt say he would "easily" get 0-4'd at all...

+ Show Spoiler +
He beat last weekends GSL final runner up today in a Bo3...


it wasnt surprising in the slightest, i expected it, so did many, if you go back to the thread, many were already stating he was in a slump, and he only got many votes to advance the group due to fans trying to be optimistic, not because of reality. the major upset was sparta 2-1ing nestea


I don't think Nestea is actually 'worse'. Others have gotten better and the maps and meta favor the longer games. Nestea is still a beast until the 13-15 minute mark. He destroyed Mvp today while Mvp used the same builds he did against Life. Of course, Nestea also practices a lot with Mvp and can predict his openings better.


I'm now expecting someone to say Nestea is a PatchZerg - Where did you see this practice? And who's POV was it from?


I think they might be talking about this http://esfiworld.com/news/world-e-sports-masters-2012-set-begin

I'm apparently a noob and never heard about it :/
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
October 25 2012 13:20 GMT
#2193
To bad Flash didn't make it but happy Ryung did
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
October 25 2012 13:20 GMT
#2194
After watching Ryung v Flash today. I think Gom should host a special event called GomTvT during WCS Globals weekend.

And invite

1 Mvp
2 MMA
3 MKP
4 Flash
5 Bogus
6 Baby
7 Bbyong
8 Gumiho
9 Bomber
10 Hack
11 Byun
12 Maru
13 Yoda
14 Taeja
15 Polt
16 Happy
17 aLive
18 Ryung
19 Supernova
20 Jjakji

4 group of 5 in Bo1 (bo3 would take forever!!) round robin. Top 2 from each group goes into single elim brackets.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
October 25 2012 13:21 GMT
#2195
On October 25 2012 22:13 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 22:10 X3GoldDot wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:08 liberate71 wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:06 X3GoldDot wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:04 liberate71 wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:02 Mackus wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:54 liberate71 wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:52 Mackus wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:47 Dodgin wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:47 Mackus wrote:
[quote]

I've seen his name mentioned before but why does he deserve a seed? He's really unproven in the individual leagues


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/World_Cyber_Games_2012/Qualifiers/Korea/Main_Tournament

also 2 recent all kills in GSTL

silver medal in homestory cup 5 too


WCG is nothing these days though with WCS taking all the spotlight and I said Individual leagues!

If I were to look at tournaments to seed players on it would be Last and ironically First - MLG finalist but foreigners bring the viewers in I think we'll see someone completely unexpected.


Last? Pity Seed? The Finals are Bo7... what a waste.


I can imagine the finals when he's 2-0 up and everyone shouts JUST DONT WIN THIS GAME :D

I think Nestea is guaranteed a seed but it's hard to see where the 2nd seed comes from - Sen has a shout making the WCS Finals from Asian bracket but not as big as a shout as others.


Whilst I can see why they would seed NesTea, I can also see people rolling their eyes and claiming its a waste, especially if he gets KO'd in Ro32 or even Ro16.

If he should win, it would be the most amazing thing ever.

edit: Couldn't be worse than seeding IdrA


if they seed nestea now i see him going 0-4 easily, idra at least took a game in code S


Him going 0-4 last season was surprising, I wouldnt say he would "easily" get 0-4'd at all...

+ Show Spoiler +
He beat last weekends GSL final runner up today in a Bo3...


it wasnt surprising in the slightest, i expected it, so did many, if you go back to the thread, many were already stating he was in a slump, and he only got many votes to advance the group due to fans trying to be optimistic, not because of reality. the major upset was sparta 2-1ing nestea


I don't think Nestea is actually 'worse'. Others have gotten better and the maps and meta favor the longer games. Nestea is still a beast until the 13-15 minute mark. He destroyed Mvp today while Mvp used the same builds he did against Life. Of course, Nestea also practices a lot with Mvp and can predict his openings better.


That's part of it but Nestea has seen better days. If you look closely at some of his games he's seemed to have lost his decision-making edge as well. Even with lesser mechanics there's no reason why he should be getting torn apart by Fantasy and Last in the early game, or letting Byun bunker block his ramp like a chump. There's no reason why you would roach drop a bio terran like he did against Puma at IEM. Or not have killed that god damn 4th base in the team league against Byul (never forgetting this one...).
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
October 25 2012 13:21 GMT
#2196
On October 25 2012 22:16 Mackus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 22:13 vthree wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:10 X3GoldDot wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:08 liberate71 wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:06 X3GoldDot wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:04 liberate71 wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:02 Mackus wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:54 liberate71 wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:52 Mackus wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:47 Dodgin wrote:
[quote]

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/World_Cyber_Games_2012/Qualifiers/Korea/Main_Tournament

also 2 recent all kills in GSTL

silver medal in homestory cup 5 too


WCG is nothing these days though with WCS taking all the spotlight and I said Individual leagues!

If I were to look at tournaments to seed players on it would be Last and ironically First - MLG finalist but foreigners bring the viewers in I think we'll see someone completely unexpected.


Last? Pity Seed? The Finals are Bo7... what a waste.


I can imagine the finals when he's 2-0 up and everyone shouts JUST DONT WIN THIS GAME :D

I think Nestea is guaranteed a seed but it's hard to see where the 2nd seed comes from - Sen has a shout making the WCS Finals from Asian bracket but not as big as a shout as others.


Whilst I can see why they would seed NesTea, I can also see people rolling their eyes and claiming its a waste, especially if he gets KO'd in Ro32 or even Ro16.

If he should win, it would be the most amazing thing ever.

edit: Couldn't be worse than seeding IdrA


if they seed nestea now i see him going 0-4 easily, idra at least took a game in code S


Him going 0-4 last season was surprising, I wouldnt say he would "easily" get 0-4'd at all...

+ Show Spoiler +
He beat last weekends GSL final runner up today in a Bo3...


it wasnt surprising in the slightest, i expected it, so did many, if you go back to the thread, many were already stating he was in a slump, and he only got many votes to advance the group due to fans trying to be optimistic, not because of reality. the major upset was sparta 2-1ing nestea


I don't think Nestea is actually 'worse'. Others have gotten better and the maps and meta favor the longer games. Nestea is still a beast until the 13-15 minute mark. He destroyed Mvp today while Mvp used the same builds he did against Life. Of course, Nestea also practices a lot with Mvp and can predict his openings better.


I'm now expecting someone to say Nestea is a PatchZerg - Where did you see this practice? And who's POV was it from?


Not practice, they were playing in the WEM in China.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
October 25 2012 13:22 GMT
#2197
On October 25 2012 22:18 liberate71 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 22:16 Mackus wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:13 vthree wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:10 X3GoldDot wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:08 liberate71 wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:06 X3GoldDot wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:04 liberate71 wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:02 Mackus wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:54 liberate71 wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:52 Mackus wrote:
[quote]

WCG is nothing these days though with WCS taking all the spotlight and I said Individual leagues!

If I were to look at tournaments to seed players on it would be Last and ironically First - MLG finalist but foreigners bring the viewers in I think we'll see someone completely unexpected.


Last? Pity Seed? The Finals are Bo7... what a waste.


I can imagine the finals when he's 2-0 up and everyone shouts JUST DONT WIN THIS GAME :D

I think Nestea is guaranteed a seed but it's hard to see where the 2nd seed comes from - Sen has a shout making the WCS Finals from Asian bracket but not as big as a shout as others.


Whilst I can see why they would seed NesTea, I can also see people rolling their eyes and claiming its a waste, especially if he gets KO'd in Ro32 or even Ro16.

If he should win, it would be the most amazing thing ever.

edit: Couldn't be worse than seeding IdrA


if they seed nestea now i see him going 0-4 easily, idra at least took a game in code S


Him going 0-4 last season was surprising, I wouldnt say he would "easily" get 0-4'd at all...

+ Show Spoiler +
He beat last weekends GSL final runner up today in a Bo3...


it wasnt surprising in the slightest, i expected it, so did many, if you go back to the thread, many were already stating he was in a slump, and he only got many votes to advance the group due to fans trying to be optimistic, not because of reality. the major upset was sparta 2-1ing nestea


I don't think Nestea is actually 'worse'. Others have gotten better and the maps and meta favor the longer games. Nestea is still a beast until the 13-15 minute mark. He destroyed Mvp today while Mvp used the same builds he did against Life. Of course, Nestea also practices a lot with Mvp and can predict his openings better.


I'm now expecting someone to say Nestea is a PatchZerg - Where did you see this practice? And who's POV was it from?


He didnt see the practice, they played a proper match, it should have been spoilered ;P


lol, are there actually non Chinese VODs for this? The stream was Chinese only.
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-25 13:24:13
October 25 2012 13:23 GMT
#2198
On October 25 2012 22:20 vthree wrote:
After watching Ryung v Flash today. I think Gom should host a special event called GomTvT during WCS Globals weekend.

And invite

1 Mvp
2 MMA
3 MKP
4 Flash
5 Bogus
6 Baby
7 Bbyong
8 Gumiho
9 Bomber
10 Hack
11 Byun
12 Maru
13 Yoda
14 Taeja
15 Polt
16 Happy
17 aLive
18 Ryung
19 Supernova
20 Jjakji

4 group of 5 in Bo1 (bo3 would take forever!!) round robin. Top 2 from each group goes into single elim brackets.


12 months ago, you would be effing insane.

Today, you're brilliant.
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
October 25 2012 13:24 GMT
#2199
On October 25 2012 22:22 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 22:18 liberate71 wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:16 Mackus wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:13 vthree wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:10 X3GoldDot wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:08 liberate71 wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:06 X3GoldDot wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:04 liberate71 wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:02 Mackus wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:54 liberate71 wrote:
[quote]

Last? Pity Seed? The Finals are Bo7... what a waste.


I can imagine the finals when he's 2-0 up and everyone shouts JUST DONT WIN THIS GAME :D

I think Nestea is guaranteed a seed but it's hard to see where the 2nd seed comes from - Sen has a shout making the WCS Finals from Asian bracket but not as big as a shout as others.


Whilst I can see why they would seed NesTea, I can also see people rolling their eyes and claiming its a waste, especially if he gets KO'd in Ro32 or even Ro16.

If he should win, it would be the most amazing thing ever.

edit: Couldn't be worse than seeding IdrA


if they seed nestea now i see him going 0-4 easily, idra at least took a game in code S


Him going 0-4 last season was surprising, I wouldnt say he would "easily" get 0-4'd at all...

+ Show Spoiler +
He beat last weekends GSL final runner up today in a Bo3...


it wasnt surprising in the slightest, i expected it, so did many, if you go back to the thread, many were already stating he was in a slump, and he only got many votes to advance the group due to fans trying to be optimistic, not because of reality. the major upset was sparta 2-1ing nestea


I don't think Nestea is actually 'worse'. Others have gotten better and the maps and meta favor the longer games. Nestea is still a beast until the 13-15 minute mark. He destroyed Mvp today while Mvp used the same builds he did against Life. Of course, Nestea also practices a lot with Mvp and can predict his openings better.


I'm now expecting someone to say Nestea is a PatchZerg - Where did you see this practice? And who's POV was it from?


He didnt see the practice, they played a proper match, it should have been spoilered ;P


lol, are there actually non Chinese VODs for this? The stream was Chinese only.


Nah I dont think so, I was at work and missed... :\
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 25 2012 13:24 GMT
#2200
On October 25 2012 22:20 vthree wrote:
After watching Ryung v Flash today. I think Gom should host a special event called GomTvT during WCS Globals weekend.

And invite

1 Mvp
2 MMA
3 MKP
4 Flash
5 Bogus
6 Baby
7 Bbyong
8 Gumiho
9 Bomber
10 Hack
11 Byun
12 Maru
13 Yoda
14 Taeja
15 Polt
16 Happy
17 aLive
18 Ryung
19 Supernova
20 Jjakji

4 group of 5 in Bo1 (bo3 would take forever!!) round robin. Top 2 from each group goes into single elim brackets.

I'd be ok with this :D
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Prev 1 108 109 110 111 112 117 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Invitational
12:00
Christmas Day Games
ByuN vs Solar
Clem vs Classic
Cure vs herO
Reynor vs MaxPax
WardiTV1768
TaKeTV 514
IndyStarCraft 268
Rex166
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
IndyStarCraft 268
Rex 166
SKillous 66
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 54168
Rain 4270
Sea 1470
Shuttle 1322
Horang2 898
EffOrt 726
Larva 572
Aegong 548
actioN 369
Mini 324
[ Show more ]
ggaemo 248
firebathero 233
Last 175
hero 97
Hyun 94
Sharp 88
Mind 70
ToSsGirL 44
[sc1f]eonzerg 32
Shinee 27
Terrorterran 27
Sexy 22
zelot 17
soO 16
HiyA 14
Sacsri 13
Noble 13
GoRush 13
JulyZerg 10
910 10
SilentControl 6
Dota 2
XcaliburYe1104
420jenkins647
League of Legends
C9.Mang0417
Other Games
singsing2494
B2W.Neo1851
Hui .379
crisheroes374
Fuzer 317
Mew2King125
ArmadaUGS118
Mlord53
DeMusliM22
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick386
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 48
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis829
Upcoming Events
Big Brain Bouts
1d 2h
Elazer vs Nicoract
Reynor vs Scarlett
Replay Cast
1d 9h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Krystianer vs TBD
TriGGeR vs SKillous
Percival vs TBD
ByuN vs Nicoract
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.