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Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
October 25 2012 12:49 GMT
#2141
They could throw a bone to MLG and give a seed to the winner of the MLGvProleague invitational thing. I wouldn't mind seeing for instance Soulkey get a seed, he's really good.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
October 25 2012 12:49 GMT
#2142

On October 25 2012 21:41 Laryleprakon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 21:39 liberate71 wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:38 Laryleprakon wrote:
I really want to know what they are going to base there two seeds on this time.


Steph aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand? NESTEAAAAAAAAAAA


Yea..They really need at least one zerg to try and balance it out.

Will be interesting to see who they pick.


Zerg in Code S is more about quality than quantity.
Each time a zerg won GSL, he was the last of his kind after like ro8

If you don't count the ZvZ finals between Losira and Nestea obviously
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
October 25 2012 12:49 GMT
#2143
Probably for the better that Supernova didn't advance, I think something unspeakable happens to those that get the Nestea award...
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liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
October 25 2012 12:50 GMT
#2144
On October 25 2012 21:49 Grumbels wrote:
They could throw a bone to MLG and give a seed to the winner of the MLGvProleague invitational thing. I wouldn't mind seeing for instance Soulkey get a seed, he's really good.


Or just throw a bone to KeSPA again. They got JD wrong, but Rain was definately a worthy Seed.

I'm sure Soulkey would be a good addition as Roro is already in.
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-25 12:50:46
October 25 2012 12:50 GMT
#2145
On October 25 2012 21:49 Grumbels wrote:
They could throw a bone to MLG and give a seed to the winner of the MLGvProleague invitational thing. I wouldn't mind seeing for instance Soulkey get a seed, he's really good.

actually not unreasonable at all, imagine if NaNiwa won lolololol
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
October 25 2012 12:50 GMT
#2146
Youngwha makes sense and maybe a Kespa Zerg.
Jigsy
Profile Joined June 2011
21 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-25 13:06:19
October 25 2012 12:50 GMT
#2147
I think Its unfair that Ryung advances.
Nothing against Ryung but why should he advance?

He won against Flash and Supernova ok. But he lost against Sirius who is (by results) the worst player of the group.
And with that i think of 3 categories:
Rank 1- Seed with a 3-1 Score
Rank 2- Flash, Ryung and Supernova with a 2-2 Score
Rank 3- Sirius with a 1-3 Score

Maping the Ranks and the wins of the Players:
Flash gets 3 Point for beating Seed and 1 for beating Sirius.
Ryung gets 4 for beating each Flash (+2) and Supernova (+2).
Supernova gets 2 for Flash and 1 for Sirius.

#1 Flash and Ryung with 4 Points
#2 Supernova with 3 Points


By that I would let Flash and Ryung play another BO1/3 for the last Code S spot.
Another fair solution would be to accept the 3-way.tie of Ryung/Supernova/Flash.

But thats only my opinion, which I think would be more fair to the players.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
October 25 2012 12:51 GMT
#2148
On October 25 2012 21:49 Hall0wed wrote:
Probably for the better that Supernova didn't advance, I think something unspeakable happens to those that get the Nestea award...


No that was a massive buildup of Artosis hype that has cursed many great players. Nestea is currently in rehabilitation
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mycro
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1579 Posts
October 25 2012 12:51 GMT
#2149
On October 25 2012 21:30 Lysanias wrote:
This does make Rain's performance even more impressive. Maybe next time Flash, you were atleast close.


How's that? Rain was seeded into Code S
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 25 2012 12:51 GMT
#2150
On October 25 2012 21:50 Jigsy wrote:
I think Its unfair that Ryung advances.
Nothing against Ryung but why should he advance?

He won against Flash and Supernova ok. But he lost against Sirius who is (by results) the worst player of the group.
And with that i think of 3 categories:
Rank 1- Seed with a 3-1 Score
Rank 2- Flash, Ryung and Supernova with a 2-2 Score
Rank 3- Sirius with a 1-3 Score

Maping the Ranks and the wins/loses of the Players:
Flash gets 1 Point for beating Seed and 3 for beating Sirius.
Ryung gets 4 for beating each Flash (+2) and Supernova (+2).
Supernova gets 2 for Flash and 3 for Sirius.

That would result in (The lower the score the better):
#1 Flash and Ryung with 4 Points
#2 Supernova with 5 Points


By that I would let Flash and Ryung play another BO1/3 for the last Code S spot.
Another fair solution would be to accept the 3-way.tie of Ryung/Supernova/Flash.

But thats only my opinion, which I think would be more fair to the players.

that's really overly complex =/
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Mackus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1681 Posts
October 25 2012 12:52 GMT
#2151
On October 25 2012 21:47 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 21:47 Mackus wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:45 opterown wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:43 Dodgin wrote:
in all honesty I think they will seed NesTea back in, I'm sure he's saved up enough air miles for a Code S seed.

We just need to have Wax write up a TL article on why they should seed him in like Fionn did for Polt that one time.

I'm hedging my bets on YongHwa


I've seen his name mentioned before but why does he deserve a seed? He's really unproven in the individual leagues


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/World_Cyber_Games_2012/Qualifiers/Korea/Main_Tournament

also 2 recent all kills in GSTL

silver medal in homestory cup 5 too


WCG is nothing these days though with WCS taking all the spotlight and I said Individual leagues!

If I were to look at tournaments to seed players on it would be Last and ironically First - MLG finalist but foreigners bring the viewers in I think we'll see someone completely unexpected.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
October 25 2012 12:52 GMT
#2152
On October 25 2012 21:51 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 21:50 Jigsy wrote:
I think Its unfair that Ryung advances.
Nothing against Ryung but why should he advance?

He won against Flash and Supernova ok. But he lost against Sirius who is (by results) the worst player of the group.
And with that i think of 3 categories:
Rank 1- Seed with a 3-1 Score
Rank 2- Flash, Ryung and Supernova with a 2-2 Score
Rank 3- Sirius with a 1-3 Score

Maping the Ranks and the wins/loses of the Players:
Flash gets 1 Point for beating Seed and 3 for beating Sirius.
Ryung gets 4 for beating each Flash (+2) and Supernova (+2).
Supernova gets 2 for Flash and 3 for Sirius.

That would result in (The lower the score the better):
#1 Flash and Ryung with 4 Points
#2 Supernova with 5 Points


By that I would let Flash and Ryung play another BO1/3 for the last Code S spot.
Another fair solution would be to accept the 3-way.tie of Ryung/Supernova/Flash.

But thats only my opinion, which I think would be more fair to the players.

that's really overly complex =/

yeah should just flip a coin instead
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 25 2012 12:53 GMT
#2153
On October 25 2012 21:52 Mackus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 21:47 Dodgin wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:47 Mackus wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:45 opterown wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:43 Dodgin wrote:
in all honesty I think they will seed NesTea back in, I'm sure he's saved up enough air miles for a Code S seed.

We just need to have Wax write up a TL article on why they should seed him in like Fionn did for Polt that one time.

I'm hedging my bets on YongHwa


I've seen his name mentioned before but why does he deserve a seed? He's really unproven in the individual leagues


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/World_Cyber_Games_2012/Qualifiers/Korea/Main_Tournament

also 2 recent all kills in GSTL

silver medal in homestory cup 5 too


WCG is nothing these days though with WCS taking all the spotlight and I said Individual leagues!

If I were to look at tournaments to seed players on it would be Last and ironically First - MLG finalist but foreigners bring the viewers in I think we'll see someone completely unexpected.

Goody will be seeded, he left ESC to find a Korean Team but noone took him, so ESC is sending him to Korea.

The other seed is Manager J, who hijacked Mr Chae's GOM account and put him as a seed.
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Icaeth
Profile Joined March 2011
Chile77 Posts
October 25 2012 12:53 GMT
#2154
On October 25 2012 21:50 Jigsy wrote:
I think Its unfair that Ryung advances.
Nothing against Ryung but why should he advance?

He won against Flash and Supernova ok. But he lost against Sirius who is (by results) the worst player of the group.
And with that i think of 3 categories:
Rank 1- Seed with a 3-1 Score
Rank 2- Flash, Ryung and Supernova with a 2-2 Score
Rank 3- Sirius with a 1-3 Score

Maping the Ranks and the wins/loses of the Players:
Flash gets 1 Point for beating Seed and 3 for beating Sirius.
Ryung gets 4 for beating each Flash (+2) and Supernova (+2).
Supernova gets 2 for Flash and 3 for Sirius.

That would result in (The lower the score the better):
#1 Flash and Ryung with 4 Points
#2 Supernova with 5 Points


By that I would let Flash and Ryung play another BO1/3 for the last Code S spot.
Another fair solution would be to accept the 3-way.tie of Ryung/Supernova/Flash.

But thats only my opinion, which I think would be more fair to the players.


So according ur system, u get more points defeating worse players?
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 25 2012 12:53 GMT
#2155
On October 25 2012 21:52 Mackus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 21:47 Dodgin wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:47 Mackus wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:45 opterown wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:43 Dodgin wrote:
in all honesty I think they will seed NesTea back in, I'm sure he's saved up enough air miles for a Code S seed.

We just need to have Wax write up a TL article on why they should seed him in like Fionn did for Polt that one time.

I'm hedging my bets on YongHwa


I've seen his name mentioned before but why does he deserve a seed? He's really unproven in the individual leagues


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/World_Cyber_Games_2012/Qualifiers/Korea/Main_Tournament

also 2 recent all kills in GSTL

silver medal in homestory cup 5 too


WCG is nothing these days though with WCS taking all the spotlight and I said Individual leagues!

If I were to look at tournaments to seed players on it would be Last and ironically First - MLG finalist but foreigners bring the viewers in I think we'll see someone completely unexpected.


how is WCG nothing? look at that player list, and it's not like they don't try as hard because the tournament is named WCG and not WCS.
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
October 25 2012 12:54 GMT
#2156
On October 25 2012 21:52 Mackus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 21:47 Dodgin wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:47 Mackus wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:45 opterown wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:43 Dodgin wrote:
in all honesty I think they will seed NesTea back in, I'm sure he's saved up enough air miles for a Code S seed.

We just need to have Wax write up a TL article on why they should seed him in like Fionn did for Polt that one time.

I'm hedging my bets on YongHwa


I've seen his name mentioned before but why does he deserve a seed? He's really unproven in the individual leagues


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/World_Cyber_Games_2012/Qualifiers/Korea/Main_Tournament

also 2 recent all kills in GSTL

silver medal in homestory cup 5 too


WCG is nothing these days though with WCS taking all the spotlight and I said Individual leagues!

If I were to look at tournaments to seed players on it would be Last and ironically First - MLG finalist but foreigners bring the viewers in I think we'll see someone completely unexpected.


Last? Pity Seed? The Finals are Bo7... what a waste.
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
October 25 2012 12:54 GMT
#2157
On October 25 2012 21:53 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 21:52 Mackus wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:47 Dodgin wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:47 Mackus wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:45 opterown wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:43 Dodgin wrote:
in all honesty I think they will seed NesTea back in, I'm sure he's saved up enough air miles for a Code S seed.

We just need to have Wax write up a TL article on why they should seed him in like Fionn did for Polt that one time.

I'm hedging my bets on YongHwa


I've seen his name mentioned before but why does he deserve a seed? He's really unproven in the individual leagues


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/World_Cyber_Games_2012/Qualifiers/Korea/Main_Tournament

also 2 recent all kills in GSTL

silver medal in homestory cup 5 too


WCG is nothing these days though with WCS taking all the spotlight and I said Individual leagues!

If I were to look at tournaments to seed players on it would be Last and ironically First - MLG finalist but foreigners bring the viewers in I think we'll see someone completely unexpected.

Goody will be seeded, he left ESC to find a Korean Team but noone took him, so ESC is sending him to Korea.

The other seed is Manager J, who hijacked Mr Chae's GOM account and put him as a seed.

There will be no seeds as (P)Seed will claim copyrights to his ID
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-25 12:56:19
October 25 2012 12:54 GMT
#2158
Cannot imagine why NesTea deserves a Code S seed just because he was a top player and won championships long ago. His play has looked bad (not always, but regularly) for so long, he was just hanging on in Code S, bombed out spectacularly in foreign tourneys and this season was handed one of the weakest draws in the Code A Ro48 and played poorly yet again. he never looks like he will win a GSL tourney again any time soon. There are far more talented candidates to give the seed to.

Then again, MrChae loves him so I can see it happening.
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
October 25 2012 12:54 GMT
#2159
On October 25 2012 21:49 Noocta wrote:

Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 21:41 Laryleprakon wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:39 liberate71 wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:38 Laryleprakon wrote:
I really want to know what they are going to base there two seeds on this time.


Steph aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand? NESTEAAAAAAAAAAA


Yea..They really need at least one zerg to try and balance it out.

Will be interesting to see who they pick.


Zerg in Code S is more about quality than quantity.
Each time a zerg won GSL, he was the last of his kind after like ro8

If you don't count the ZvZ finals between Losira and Nestea obviously

This year, there were more Zerg players going high in GSL. So I don't really think that this statistics has a meaning to it.
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
October 25 2012 12:54 GMT
#2160
On October 25 2012 21:53 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 21:52 Mackus wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:47 Dodgin wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:47 Mackus wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:45 opterown wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:43 Dodgin wrote:
in all honesty I think they will seed NesTea back in, I'm sure he's saved up enough air miles for a Code S seed.

We just need to have Wax write up a TL article on why they should seed him in like Fionn did for Polt that one time.

I'm hedging my bets on YongHwa


I've seen his name mentioned before but why does he deserve a seed? He's really unproven in the individual leagues


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/World_Cyber_Games_2012/Qualifiers/Korea/Main_Tournament

also 2 recent all kills in GSTL

silver medal in homestory cup 5 too


WCG is nothing these days though with WCS taking all the spotlight and I said Individual leagues!

If I were to look at tournaments to seed players on it would be Last and ironically First - MLG finalist but foreigners bring the viewers in I think we'll see someone completely unexpected.

Goody will be seeded, he left ESC to find a Korean Team but noone took him, so ESC is sending him to Korea.

The other seed is Manager J, who hijacked Mr Chae's GOM account and put him as a seed.


Manager J and Jessica for Seeds IMO... so we'll finally see if its the same person.
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
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