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bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
October 09 2012 10:50 GMT
#201
On October 09 2012 19:49 eviltomahawk wrote:
Woah, I just realized that the semifinals and finals for this OSL are a Bo7 instead of a Bo5, which is different from the BW days when it was a Bo5 in the semifinals and finals.

Kinda makes me wish they made the Tving OSL semifinals and finals as Bo7s instead of Bo5s.

Nah Bo5 imho is still better for BW.
Stork[gm]
WinningGuy
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia53 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-09 10:53:43
October 09 2012 10:50 GMT
#202
On October 09 2012 19:44 silent_owl wrote:
Quick question, how do you defend against a 2 rax? I'm guessing just stalkers would be good against pure marines.


Stalkers and I like to wall off, if you scout it earlier you can cut probes faster and make a second gateway, which usually lets you live. Unfortunately your usually caught off gaurd and have to dance with 1 gate being cronoboosted making stalkers, and in this scenario you defend by having godlike control almost.

I think 2 rax is a decent play, most protoss players like myself don't scout till stalker

If you scout it too late, it's like scouting a 2 gate proxy in your base and you have 1 marine on the low ground saying, from this point "how do I defend against a 2 gate proxy?" Your already screwed and you should have scouted better.

The reality is you need to scout around your main, nat and 3rd with your probe.

I prefer doing this when I do probe scout instead of stalker scout even though I may not get into the Terran's main, as 90% of games I play now I get to the Terran's base and he drops a 2nd depot to stop my probe from coming in. in other words scouting straight to his base is a waste of time.

I may as well scout around for cheese instead of missing cheese and running into a wall off.
You have to be masters to train bronze league players...apparently.
dapierow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Serbia1316 Posts
October 09 2012 10:51 GMT
#203
On October 09 2012 19:50 InDesconrowl wrote:
Oz just said Nestea can drink 5 bottles of Soju solo.


The first time I drank soju I drank 4 bottles by my self...
Eat.Sleep.Starcraft 2
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
October 09 2012 10:53 GMT
#204
On October 09 2012 19:49 eviltomahawk wrote:
Woah, I just realized that the semifinals and finals for this OSL are a Bo7 instead of a Bo5, which is different from the BW days when it was a Bo5 in the semifinals and finals.

Kinda makes me wish they made the Tving OSL semifinals and finals as Bo7s instead of Bo5s.


It's a good change since SC2 I would say is much more volatile
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
October 09 2012 10:54 GMT
#205
well the only good thing about that game was that I predicted 4-1 and this way Last got his only cheesy victory, so now Rain can crush him straight-up a couple of times in a row
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
October 09 2012 10:56 GMT
#206
No disrespect to the casters, I think they're doing the best they can (I actually like DOA) but I miss Grubby. All three of them together would've been better.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38255 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-09 10:58:11
October 09 2012 10:58 GMT
#207
oh I do <3 me some Doa jokes

Gogo Last break out the funky builds again =D
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
October 09 2012 10:58 GMT
#208
Has Last been cheesy every game or what? Thats the impression i get from listening to moletrap
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
October 09 2012 10:58 GMT
#209
On October 09 2012 19:53 Gladiator333 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2012 19:49 eviltomahawk wrote:
Woah, I just realized that the semifinals and finals for this OSL are a Bo7 instead of a Bo5, which is different from the BW days when it was a Bo5 in the semifinals and finals.

Kinda makes me wish they made the Tving OSL semifinals and finals as Bo7s instead of Bo5s.


It's a good change since SC2 I would say is much more volatile

True. Although I heard (from GTR) that the reason that they used Bo5s in the BW OSL (and MSL) was due to broadcasting constraints. Kinda weird to see them try out Bo7s with that in mind.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
October 09 2012 10:58 GMT
#210
There's nothing wrong with being aggressive. I wonder why people hate on Last, he's aggressive and cheesy but that doesn't make him a bad player.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38255 Posts
October 09 2012 10:59 GMT
#211
On October 09 2012 19:58 Fjodorov wrote:
Has Last been cheesy every game or what? Thats the impression i get from listening to moletrap


No, he played macro vs Flash in almost all the games.
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
October 09 2012 10:59 GMT
#212
1-1-1?
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
NeWeNiyaLord
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Norway2474 Posts
October 09 2012 10:59 GMT
#213
On October 09 2012 19:58 silent_owl wrote:
There's nothing wrong with being aggressive. I wonder why people hate on Last, he's aggressive and cheesy but that doesn't make him a bad player.

He's the obvious underdog and Rain seems like the fan favorite. Guess that pretty much covers it ! xP Gogo rain! :D
This is where we begin. Show your true self, Battosai.
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-09 11:00:58
October 09 2012 11:00 GMT
#214
never mind, casters tricked me

I love crazymoving
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
October 09 2012 11:00 GMT
#215
4gate vs 1/1/1

welp
Anomek
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland152 Posts
October 09 2012 11:00 GMT
#216
1-1-1 against fast expansion into 4gate. Math tells me that last will win
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
October 09 2012 11:00 GMT
#217
Kind of rough for the terran player? 1/1/1 beats 4 gate I would say almost every time if Terran doesnt screw up.
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38255 Posts
October 09 2012 11:01 GMT
#218
On October 09 2012 20:00 Flonomenalz wrote:
does 4 gate beat 1/1/1?

i have no idea.


It's just 1 gate expo into 4 gate pressure.

1/1/1 is pretty bad nowadays though
armada[sb]
Profile Joined August 2011
United States432 Posts
October 09 2012 11:02 GMT
#219
I really dislike Moletrap's casting. I know he's contributed a lot to the community, but he constantly speaks over the other caster and he's just not very good as a analytical caster.
#Hitpoint @ GameSurge (IDLE=BAN)
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
October 09 2012 11:02 GMT
#220
BIT BY BITTTTTTT
I love crazymoving
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