On October 01 2012 06:53 Kluey wrote: Why are people voting for KeSPA players without even thinking? Bomber has some of the best TvT, or at least he did. Oz is one of the smartest Protosses in the world and in PvP, all you need is smart builds.
actually, bomber has some bad tvt right now, and oz definitely needs work on his pvp ;p
On October 01 2012 06:43 Fusilero wrote: Alright time to break out some zenex hipster knowledge for sparta... He was that guy who wasn't harrier (I got nothing, he did go on a 6 wins streak vZ which included life, monster and sniper so ~yay~) Well like most people on zenex beyond life and suhosin proper exposure was incredibly limited, while TREME, pet and harrier were seen as the next up and coming sparta just kind of hung around, he'd sometimes get inserted in the place of harrier during the team league and he did go on a nice 3 kill streak in the KSL where zenex players randomly turned insane which was tails and aforementioned sniper and monster all decent games but that was quite a while ago (I miss KSL ) and since then I have a total sample size of absolutely nothing for sparta since that point except a few scattered results in obligatory EWMs and TSL qualifiers which were some TvT losses (Probable indication that TvT is his weakness he's only got two wins listed on TLPD overall) the only TvZ shown in Korea since then is a loss to bad ZvT player min in TSL4 qualifier and losses in IPL TAC3 qualifiers to vibe, chance and miso (I think miso switched to terran and joined slayers).
On October 01 2012 06:43 Fusilero wrote: Alright time to break out some zenex hipster knowledge for sparta... He was that guy who wasn't harrier (I got nothing, he did go on a 6 wins streak vZ which included life, monster and sniper so ~yay~) Well like most people on zenex beyond life and suhosin proper exposure was incredibly limited, while TREME, pet and harrier were seen as the next up and coming sparta just kind of hung around, he'd sometimes get inserted in the place of harrier during the team league and he did go on a nice 3 kill streak in the KSL where zenex players randomly turned insane which was tails and aforementioned sniper and monster all decent games but that was quite a while ago (I miss KSL ) and since then I have a total sample size of absolutely nothing for sparta since that point except a few scattered results in obligatory EWMs and TSL qualifiers which were some TvT losses (Probable indication that TvT is his weakness he's only got two wins listed on TLPD overall) the only TvZ shown in Korea since then is a loss to bad ZvT player min in TSL4 qualifier and losses in IPL TAC3 qualifiers to vibe, chance and miso (I think miso switched to terran and joined slayers).
Omg Nestea has become so underrated. Being given a 50-50 chance against a no-name. He still claims to have a good ZvT win-rate in practice. That is against people like Yoda/Happy/MVP...
On October 01 2012 07:23 JJH777 wrote: Omg Nestea has become so underrated. Being given a 50-50 chance against a no-name. He still claims to have a good ZvT win-rate in practice. That is against people like Yoda/Happy/MVP...
sure, but we don't see his practice games. what we see is this...
On October 01 2012 06:53 Kluey wrote: Why are people voting for KeSPA players without even thinking? Bomber has some of the best TvT, or at least he did. Oz is one of the smartest Protosses in the world and in PvP, all you need is smart builds.
Most of the GSL players were B teamers in BW that made the switch to SC2 out of desperation. The Kespa players are superior RTS players, but lack experience. It won't be long before they rise to the top (many already have), can't really fault people from voting now.
On October 01 2012 06:53 Kluey wrote: Why are people voting for KeSPA players without even thinking? Bomber has some of the best TvT, or at least he did. Oz is one of the smartest Protosses in the world and in PvP, all you need is smart builds.
Most of the GSL players were B teamers in BW that made the switch to SC2 out of desperation. The Kespa players are superior RTS players, but lack experience. It won't be long before they rise to the top (many already have), can't really fault people from voting now.
On October 01 2012 06:53 Kluey wrote: Why are people voting for KeSPA players without even thinking? Bomber has some of the best TvT, or at least he did. Oz is one of the smartest Protosses in the world and in PvP, all you need is smart builds.
Betting on Oz in a PvP seems like an awful idea though ;o
Strangely enough, it was one of the best idea at around the beginning to mid of 2012... Until he proclaimed that "PvP is all about skill, not luck" and cursed himself.
On October 01 2012 06:53 Kluey wrote: Why are people voting for KeSPA players without even thinking? Bomber has some of the best TvT, or at least he did. Oz is one of the smartest Protosses in the world and in PvP, all you need is smart builds.
Most of the GSL players were B teamers in BW that made the switch to SC2 out of desperation. The Kespa players are superior RTS players, but lack experience. It won't be long before they rise to the top (many already have), can't really fault people from voting now.
I think you are over generalize all the ESF players a little bit here. I think there are some players who have talents but were still in B-Team and want to switch because there was more opportunity in the new game. Sure, many players are inferior to KesPA pro, but I would say not all of them.
On October 01 2012 06:53 Kluey wrote: Why are people voting for KeSPA players without even thinking? Bomber has some of the best TvT, or at least he did. Oz is one of the smartest Protosses in the world and in PvP, all you need is smart builds.
Most of the GSL players were B teamers in BW that made the switch to SC2 out of desperation. The Kespa players are superior RTS players, but lack experience. It won't be long before they rise to the top (many already have), can't really fault people from voting now.
outside of Rain, I dont think there has been one player that has been consistently Code S quality. We have seen flashes of greatness in many of them, but i have only seen one consistent one.
also many of the eSF players were really young for most of brood war and that doesnt mean they arent as good RTS players now, they just didnt have a chance to prove it in BW and a lot of eSF players were B-teamers or practice partners that had they not switched, some couldve made the jump to the A-team.
On October 01 2012 06:53 Kluey wrote: Why are people voting for KeSPA players without even thinking? Bomber has some of the best TvT, or at least he did. Oz is one of the smartest Protosses in the world and in PvP, all you need is smart builds.
Most of the GSL players were B teamers in BW that made the switch to SC2 out of desperation. The Kespa players are superior RTS players, but lack experience. It won't be long before they rise to the top (many already have), can't really fault people from voting now.
outside of Rain, I dont think there has been one player that has been consistently Code S quality. We have seen flashes of greatness in many of them, but i have only seen one consistent one.
also many of the eSF players were really young for most of brood war and that doesnt mean they arent as good RTS players now, they just didnt have a chance to prove it in BW and a lot of eSF players were B-teamers or practice partners that had they not switched, some couldve made the jump to the A-team.
This.
In another reality where Brood War doesn't die, kids like Creator, Life and Maru would have been the next generation.
On October 01 2012 06:53 Kluey wrote: Why are people voting for KeSPA players without even thinking? Bomber has some of the best TvT, or at least he did. Oz is one of the smartest Protosses in the world and in PvP, all you need is smart builds.
actually, bomber has some bad tvt right now, and oz definitely needs work on his pvp ;p
On October 01 2012 06:53 Kluey wrote: Why are people voting for KeSPA players without even thinking? Bomber has some of the best TvT, or at least he did. Oz is one of the smartest Protosses in the world and in PvP, all you need is smart builds.
actually, bomber has some bad tvt right now, and oz definitely needs work on his pvp ;p
really? I thought bomber had some pretty nice tvt. And yes, "needs work" is very diplomatic of you,
On October 01 2012 06:53 Kluey wrote: Why are people voting for KeSPA players without even thinking? Bomber has some of the best TvT, or at least he did. Oz is one of the smartest Protosses in the world and in PvP, all you need is smart builds.
actually, bomber has some bad tvt right now, and oz definitely needs work on his pvp ;p
really? I thought bomber had some pretty nice tvt. And yes, "needs work" is very diplomatic of you,
It's another Startale Code A day with Bomber, Sparta and Line. I hope at least Bomber can make it through. But I'd be happy to see Line stick around a while longer.
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) and since then I have a total sample size of absolutely nothing for sparta since that point except a few scattered results in obligatory EWMs and TSL qualifiers which were some TvT losses (Probable indication that TvT is his weakness he's only got two wins listed on TLPD overall) the only TvZ shown in Korea since then is a loss to bad ZvT player min in TSL4 qualifier and losses in IPL TAC3 qualifiers to vibe, chance and miso (I think miso switched to terran and joined slayers).
