• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 23:11
CET 05:11
KST 13:11
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced11[BSL21] Ro.16 Group Stage (C->B->A->D)4Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win3RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket13Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge2
StarCraft 2
General
BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA When will we find out if there are more tournament Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge
Tourneys
Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest RSL Revival: Season 3 Tenacious Turtle Tussle [Alpha Pro Series] Nice vs Cure $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 501 Price of Progress Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone Which season is the best in ASL? soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO16 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Group C - Saturday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? Current Meta PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread The Perfect Game Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games?
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread The Big Programming Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Where to ask questions and add stream? The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Esports Earnings: Bigger Pri…
TrAiDoS
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2053 users

[Code S] Ro16 Group C: 2012 GSL Season 4 - Page 54

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 52 53 54 55 56 86 Next
FidoDido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1292 Posts
September 26 2012 11:27 GMT
#1061
On September 26 2012 20:26 LittLeD wrote:
Summing up the interview with MVP:

He says he's more skilled than MKP and has an upper-hand in the mind games. He adds that he doesn't feel disadvantageous when it comes to the mind games in any games he plays.

(Something about his wrist?) He gains a lot of strength from fans.

He has a feeling when it would be best to all-in. It's just something intuitive.



He said that his wrists hurt so much in today's games that he couldn't micro properly.
LGIMSeed FantasyToss~~ Hipster Seed fan before he made Code A
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
September 26 2012 11:28 GMT
#1062
On September 26 2012 20:22 DJHelium wrote:
I don't really know what makes a bonjwa, how close is MVP if he wins this season of GSL?


Well typically, a Bonjwa back in BW is someone who becomes highly dominant at one point in time (around half a year to one year). This dominance is usually composed of a high win percentage in most if not all matchups, multiple individual league titles (OSL and MSL at the time), and an aura of invincibility.

The concept of bonjwa isn't really applicable in SC2 as of now because there are so many tournaments around the world that it's hard for one player to win most if not all of them obviously due to distance, scheduling, etc. And GSL, unlike OSL, has its seasons set weeks apart from one another, unlike OSL and MSL where it usually takes a month or two until the next season starts.

MVP is undoubtedly the closest thing we have to a "bonjwa" in SC2, but in the strictest sense, he's not a bonjwa, nor do I think that the term can be applied to the SC2 scene. Bonjwa died with Savior.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
September 26 2012 11:28 GMT
#1063
On September 26 2012 20:27 Ysellian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 20:26 Schelim wrote:
aw MVP was waiting to say something in english there i think and then didn't get the chance


I got the same feeling. I hope he gets another chance


Really think Artosis should go with a "any last words for your fans?" as a standard ending of the interview, it's really nice.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
September 26 2012 11:28 GMT
#1064
On September 26 2012 20:25 samurai80 wrote:
"he said his wrists hurt so that he couldn't macro so well" oO This is really relative lol !


I still remember his game from Open Season 2 where he lost his entire army to kill a base, they panned back to his base and he had exactly the same army just about to move out. :D
LRSL 2014 Finalist! PartinG | Mvp | Bomber | Creator | NaNiwa | herO
Woizit
Profile Joined June 2011
801 Posts
September 26 2012 11:28 GMT
#1065
On September 26 2012 20:27 FidoDido wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 20:26 LittLeD wrote:
Summing up the interview with MVP:

He says he's more skilled than MKP and has an upper-hand in the mind games. He adds that he doesn't feel disadvantageous when it comes to the mind games in any games he plays.

(Something about his wrist?) He gains a lot of strength from fans.

He has a feeling when it would be best to all-in. It's just something intuitive.



He said that his wrists hurt so much in today's games that he couldn't micro properly.


Probably upset that he had to use 2 scans for one of those banshees...
trwkling
Profile Joined September 2011
658 Posts
September 26 2012 11:28 GMT
#1066
i have to admit ( don't know if fellow mkp fans have the same feeling ) even though mkp lost he showed much more composure than he used to.
remember when he played parting in season 2? when he lost he was completely crushed. at least this time he knew he still has a shot and i hope he makes the best of it!
Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
September 26 2012 11:29 GMT
#1067
On September 26 2012 20:24 RolleMcKnolle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 20:22 DJHelium wrote:
I don't really know what makes a bonjwa, how close is MVP if he wins this season of GSL?

as I understand it you have to be almost unbeatable for a long timespan, about a year or something, and MVP didn't do this so I don't think he would be a bonjwa


MVP is the most successful SC2 player ever, labeling him as dominant for a long timespan is a disservice.
/commercial
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
September 26 2012 11:29 GMT
#1068
On September 26 2012 20:27 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 20:25 X3GoldDot wrote:
On September 26 2012 20:24 -YoricK- wrote:
Curious gonna 2-0 JYP and MKP I bet from here. Standard MKP round of 16 performance: Win first match and lose second match to the guy he first beat.


just fyi, only time that happened was in season 1 lol.....

and vs taeja in s2


oh ye forgot, thought he was facing the squirtle mc symbol group in s2, silly me
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
InoyouS2
Profile Joined December 2011
1005 Posts
September 26 2012 11:29 GMT
#1069
On September 26 2012 20:26 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 20:20 HaXXspetten wrote:
On September 26 2012 20:20 FidoDido wrote:
Mvp is probably going to win this season if he can get past Symbol in ro8

Sceptical about Rain


I Hope Taeja wins so people will stop saying he's overrated.


Nobody says he's overrated I don't think, but people shouldn't be saying he's the best 'player', he's just the player who is playing best at the moment.

Others have reached similar peaks in their careers; Bomber is a good example, he did incredibly well during early-mid 2011.
IMMvp|fOrGG|IMNesTea|oGsMC|Liquid`Hero|DongRaeGu|Slayers_MMA|Liquid`TLO|MarineKingPrime|IMSeed
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-26 11:29:59
September 26 2012 11:29 GMT
#1070
On September 26 2012 20:28 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 20:27 Ysellian wrote:
On September 26 2012 20:26 Schelim wrote:
aw MVP was waiting to say something in english there i think and then didn't get the chance


I got the same feeling. I hope he gets another chance


Really think Artosis should go with a "any last words for your fans?" as a standard ending of the interview, it's really nice.


Good point. Can anyone tweet Artosis?
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
September 26 2012 11:30 GMT
#1071
On September 26 2012 20:29 InoyouS2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 20:26 Jockmcplop wrote:
On September 26 2012 20:20 HaXXspetten wrote:
On September 26 2012 20:20 FidoDido wrote:
Mvp is probably going to win this season if he can get past Symbol in ro8

Sceptical about Rain


I Hope Taeja wins so people will stop saying he's overrated.


Nobody says he's overrated I don't think, but people shouldn't be saying he's the best 'player', he's just the player who is playing best at the moment.

Others have reached similar peaks in their careers; Bomber is a good example, he did incredibly well during early-mid 2011.

i say he's overrated, if only by a bit.
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
September 26 2012 11:30 GMT
#1072
--- Nuked ---
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
September 26 2012 11:30 GMT
#1073
b-word or not, with HotS coming out next year I simply don't see anybody replacing him as the most successful WoL player ever, unless MC / Nestea / MKP suddenly wins every GSL after this one.
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
September 26 2012 11:30 GMT
#1074
Curious and his chewing gum...
ffxiv enjoyer
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
September 26 2012 11:30 GMT
#1075
On September 26 2012 20:28 trwkling wrote:
i have to admit ( don't know if fellow mkp fans have the same feeling ) even though mkp lost he showed much more composure than he used to.
remember when he played parting in season 2? when he lost he was completely crushed. at least this time he knew he still has a shot and i hope he makes the best of it!


Youre right, that is the first time I can remember where MKP didn't cry at the end of a series - win or lose.
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-26 11:31:45
September 26 2012 11:31 GMT
#1076
Gangnam style on CNBC, said that his father's company stock in seoul doubled after his song became popular.

Studied at Berkley music school, and a business school dropout.

Another guy helped father to buy a new house!
Incomplet
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1419 Posts
September 26 2012 11:31 GMT
#1077
I would expect Taeja v Sun finals. Ahhhh the dilemma of who to root for, I love them both!! But I think I'd rather sun win and be the first player to achieve the royal road in sc2!!
Bow down to the sons of Aiur...SKT1_Rain, CreatorPrime, ST_Parting, Liquid_Hero.
b0rt_
Profile Joined October 2011
Norway931 Posts
September 26 2012 11:32 GMT
#1078
eg jyp lady boy o.0
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
September 26 2012 11:32 GMT
#1079
i think winner of taeja/groupB 1st place will win the gsl unless they face sun in the finals
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
September 26 2012 11:32 GMT
#1080
On September 26 2012 20:31 Incomplet wrote:
I would expect Taeja v Sun finals. Ahhhh the dilemma of who to root for, I love them both!! But I think I'd rather sun win and be the first player to achieve the royal road in sc2!!


You underrate the Leenocktupus, he will crush this season.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Prev 1 52 53 54 55 56 86 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 5h 49m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft368
RuFF_SC2 136
Nathanias 105
Nina 71
StarCraft: Brood War
Noble 22
Icarus 5
Dota 2
XaKoH 497
monkeys_forever469
NeuroSwarm209
Super Smash Bros
amsayoshi86
Other Games
summit1g15361
Mew2King76
ViBE62
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1728
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream170
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH90
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 23
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift3498
• Rush1438
Other Games
• Scarra98
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5h 49m
NightMare vs YoungYakov
Krystianer vs Classic
ByuN vs Shameless
SKillous vs Percival
WardiTV Korean Royale
7h 49m
Zoun vs SHIN
TBD vs Reynor
TBD vs herO
Solar vs TBD
BSL 21
15h 49m
Hawk vs Kyrie
spx vs Cross
Replay Cast
19h 49m
Wardi Open
1d 7h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 12h
StarCraft2.fi
1d 12h
Replay Cast
1d 19h
Wardi Open
2 days
StarCraft2.fi
2 days
[ Show More ]
PiGosaur Monday
2 days
Wardi Open
3 days
StarCraft2.fi
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
SC Evo League
6 days
BSL 21
6 days
Sziky vs OyAji
Gypsy vs eOnzErG
Liquipedia Results

Completed

SOOP Univ League 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
Slon Tour Season 2
META Madness #9
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
Kuram Kup
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.