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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
September 21 2012 21:59 GMT
#61
Fun fact : Monster (or Monsteuh, as you want) was 15 years old when he won his first WC3 LAN beating Stephano in grand finals and they're in the same group in Valencia.

FYI Monster is one of the best french terran players with good micro and he's by far the french player with the best game knowledge. I hugely recommend to the french speaking people an interview he gave to Millenium and this amazing dossier he worked on with an other guy about theorycrafting with SC2gears.

With Stephano and Naama in his group it will be very tough for him to go through the first stage but this guy really deserves to be known.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
September 21 2012 22:01 GMT
#62
On September 22 2012 06:59 Boucot wrote:
Fun fact : Monster (or Monsteuh, as you want) was 15 years old when he won his first WC3 LAN beating Stephano in grand finals and they're in the same group in Valencia.

FYI Monster is one of the best french terran players with good micro and he's by far the french player with the best game knowledge. I hugely recommend to the french speaking people an interview he gave to Millenium and this amazing dossier he worked on with an other guy about theorycrafting with SC2gears.

With Stephano and Naama in his group it will be very tough for him to go through the first stage but this guy really deserves to be known.


Oooh, had no idea about the history or the player. Thanks for the insight, will be interesting to follow.
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
September 21 2012 22:05 GMT
#63
On September 22 2012 06:59 Boucot wrote:
Fun fact : Monster (or Monsteuh, as you want) was 15 years old when he won his first WC3 LAN beating Stephano in grand finals and they're in the same group in Valencia.

FYI Monster is one of the best french terran players with good micro and he's by far the french player with the best game knowledge. I hugely recommend to the french speaking people an interview he gave to Millenium and this amazing dossier he worked on with an other guy about theorycrafting with SC2gears.

With Stephano and Naama in his group it will be very tough for him to go through the first stage but this guy really deserves to be known.


Thanks for helping educate us about this up and coming French player. Always a pleasure to see new players emerge.
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
September 21 2012 22:16 GMT
#64
dunno why but I'm not that hyped for this DH, not sure if it's the over-saturation of events recently or what, would love to see a stephano vs Tajea finals but other than that I'm not pumped, I'm fearing a lot of zvps
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 21 2012 22:17 GMT
#65
Let's go jestereric USA USA USA.
Glorious SEA doto
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
September 21 2012 22:22 GMT
#66
can someone tell me who will cast?
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
September 21 2012 22:24 GMT
#67
On September 22 2012 07:22 Undead1993 wrote:
can someone tell me who will cast?


Kevin Knocke and d'Apollo.
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
September 21 2012 22:28 GMT
#68
On September 22 2012 07:24 Porcelina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2012 07:22 Undead1993 wrote:
can someone tell me who will cast?


Kevin Knocke and d'Apollo.

Thank you very much!
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
September 21 2012 22:30 GMT
#69
On September 22 2012 07:28 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2012 07:24 Porcelina wrote:
On September 22 2012 07:22 Undead1993 wrote:
can someone tell me who will cast?


Kevin Knocke and d'Apollo.

Thank you very much!


Not a problem!

Oh, and Adebisi will do the observing. Which is always a pleasure.
Falconblade
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1035 Posts
September 21 2012 22:36 GMT
#70
On September 22 2012 07:17 Fusilero wrote:
Let's go jestereric USA USA USA.


I have him winning it all. Tossing aside Stephano, HerO and Taeja like they're nothing. Brave proxy floating factories into the opponent's bases, etc.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
September 21 2012 22:37 GMT
#71
On September 22 2012 07:30 Porcelina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2012 07:28 Undead1993 wrote:
On September 22 2012 07:24 Porcelina wrote:
On September 22 2012 07:22 Undead1993 wrote:
can someone tell me who will cast?


Kevin Knocke and d'Apollo.

Thank you very much!


Not a problem!

Oh, and Adebisi will do the observing. Which is always a pleasure.

And Rachel will host. Which is always a pleasure. :D
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
September 21 2012 22:39 GMT
#72
On September 22 2012 07:37 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2012 07:30 Porcelina wrote:
On September 22 2012 07:28 Undead1993 wrote:
On September 22 2012 07:24 Porcelina wrote:
On September 22 2012 07:22 Undead1993 wrote:
can someone tell me who will cast?


Kevin Knocke and d'Apollo.

Thank you very much!


Not a problem!

Oh, and Adebisi will do the observing. Which is always a pleasure.

And Rachel will host. Which is always a pleasure. :D


Ah, you boys and your fancies...
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
September 21 2012 22:43 GMT
#73
On September 22 2012 06:59 Boucot wrote:
Fun fact : Monster (or Monsteuh, as you want) was 15 years old when he won his first WC3 LAN beating Stephano in grand finals and they're in the same group in Valencia.

FYI Monster is one of the best french terran players with good micro and he's by far the french player with the best game knowledge. I hugely recommend to the french speaking people an interview he gave to Millenium and this amazing dossier he worked on with an other guy about theorycrafting with SC2gears.

With Stephano and Naama in his group it will be very tough for him to go through the first stage but this guy really deserves to be known.

its not like i want to ruin your view or something, but i played him in one of the playhem in june. mb he was tired or just didnt focus, because, back then, i was diamond but i straight up all ined him with a 4 gate blinkstalker observer, he didnt even gg, so i just dont see him being "by far the french player with the best game knowledge".
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
September 21 2012 22:48 GMT
#74
The Stephano fans are strong in the poll...
(not saying he is chanceless or anything, but Taeja and Hero ought to be the favorites here)
Get off my lawn, young punks
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
September 21 2012 22:49 GMT
#75
On September 22 2012 07:48 ACrow wrote:
The Stephano fans are strong in the poll...
(not saying he is chanceless or anything, but Taeja and Hero ought to be the favorites here)


HerO is a bit of a dog against both Taeja and Stephano head to head though.

But I will always believe in the HerOphant. Indeed I will.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-21 23:04:01
September 21 2012 23:02 GMT
#76
On September 22 2012 07:43 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2012 06:59 Boucot wrote:
Fun fact : Monster (or Monsteuh, as you want) was 15 years old when he won his first WC3 LAN beating Stephano in grand finals and they're in the same group in Valencia.

FYI Monster is one of the best french terran players with good micro and he's by far the french player with the best game knowledge. I hugely recommend to the french speaking people an interview he gave to Millenium and this amazing dossier he worked on with an other guy about theorycrafting with SC2gears.

With Stephano and Naama in his group it will be very tough for him to go through the first stage but this guy really deserves to be known.

its not like i want to ruin your view or something, but i played him in one of the playhem in june. mb he was tired or just didnt focus, because, back then, i was diamond but i straight up all ined him with a 4 gate blinkstalker observer, he didnt even gg, so i just dont see him being "by far the french player with the best game knowledge".

I think (and many other french esports followers as well) he has the best game knowledge in France on the theoretical plan. If you can read french and thus read the dossier and the interview I post in my previous post, you will see that he knows absolutely everything about the game, even the builds, APM, control groups of each player (LucifroN, TaeJa, DeMusliM and many others). The problem is that he's in a small team and unfortunately he doesn't benefit of a good stuff to train. If you met him in June, it coincides with a period when his graphics card was broken (he says in the interview he could play the game with 10 FPS only and couldn't qualify for WCS France in this situation). All these little things (plus his studies in a top-level university) make he can't apply all that theory but it doesn't mean he doesn't know it.

I don't want to defend him at all costs. If you saw him making huge mistakes, it's probably true (he knows himself he's far from the top level actually).


On September 22 2012 07:39 Porcelina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2012 07:37 Boucot wrote:
On September 22 2012 07:30 Porcelina wrote:
On September 22 2012 07:28 Undead1993 wrote:
On September 22 2012 07:24 Porcelina wrote:
On September 22 2012 07:22 Undead1993 wrote:
can someone tell me who will cast?


Kevin Knocke and d'Apollo.

Thank you very much!


Not a problem!

Oh, and Adebisi will do the observing. Which is always a pleasure.

And Rachel will host. Which is always a pleasure. :D


Ah, you boys and your fancies...


Yes, I want to see her with Stephano. Again. :D
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-21 23:16:54
September 21 2012 23:16 GMT
#77
Well, this might be. We'll see it today! I hope he can show some great games and make me look like an idiot
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 21 2012 23:29 GMT
#78
Go TaeJa! Would like to see TheStC do well here as well
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shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
September 21 2012 23:38 GMT
#79
On September 22 2012 07:48 ACrow wrote:
The Stephano fans are strong in the poll...
(not saying he is chanceless or anything, but Taeja and Hero ought to be the favorites here)


Last time Stephano and Taeja played together in an official match Taeja got stomped,same for Hero...

viOLet is the only korean in this tournament that scares him i'm sure.
RIP MKP
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-21 23:43:55
September 21 2012 23:43 GMT
#80
On September 22 2012 08:38 shid0x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2012 07:48 ACrow wrote:
The Stephano fans are strong in the poll...
(not saying he is chanceless or anything, but Taeja and Hero ought to be the favorites here)


Last time Stephano and Taeja played together in an official match Taeja got stomped,same for Hero...

viOLet is the only korean in this tournament that scares him i'm sure.


I am not sure that Stephano is scared of anyone. Not in this line-up, not in the world of StarCraft II.

I am also not sure that using a metric about whether Stephano is scared of someone or not is a useful metric when deciding who goes into a game as a favorite.
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