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Ksquared
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1748 Posts
September 16 2012 17:03 GMT
#2901
On September 17 2012 02:01 Grumbels wrote:
stephano has strongest zvz in europe, I don't know why people constantly call it 'weak'

Its kind of like saying Flash is weak at TvP
eSports for life.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
September 16 2012 17:03 GMT
#2902
On September 17 2012 02:02 LLuke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 02:01 Grumbels wrote:
stephano has strongest zvz in europe, I don't know why people constantly call it 'weak'


Compared to his other matchups, it appears weak...or so. People seem to treat it that way, imho.


He has one of the best ZvZs in Europe, but his ZvP and ZvT are way ahead of Europe. That's why people treat it that way.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 16 2012 17:03 GMT
#2903
When I think of Stephano ZvZ I think of him getting 2-0'd by Violet at MLG by going for a 6 pool drone pull and losing, and then Violet doing the same thing in the next game and winning.
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
September 16 2012 17:03 GMT
#2904
On September 17 2012 02:01 Grumbels wrote:
stephano has strongest zvz in europe, I don't know why people constantly call it 'weak'

Thats debatable, Nerchios ZvZ is very strong.
But I agree with your point in general. Stephanos ZvZ is weak only amongst the worlds best.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10142 Posts
September 16 2012 17:03 GMT
#2905
On September 17 2012 02:02 TeveT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 02:00 TheHova wrote:
On September 17 2012 01:58 Boucot wrote:
Wow 65k viewers !


That's one stream, there's other foreign speaking streams with acouple of k and 5k too ^_^


and atleast 3k here in the globe if course... dont forget us.. ;-)


You are not allowed to browse through TL while at an e-sport event. Destroy the i-phone and proceed to tie yourself to the chair.
Kevan
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2303 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-16 17:04:37
September 16 2012 17:04 GMT
#2906
On September 17 2012 02:01 Grumbels wrote:
stephano has strongest zvz in europe, I don't know why people constantly call it 'weak'

Isn't that Nerchio? He used to be a beast at ZvZ atleast, not really sure how he has been doing recently in the matchup though apart from losing to SortOf.
SC2, rip in pepperinos
LLuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria228 Posts
September 16 2012 17:04 GMT
#2907
On September 17 2012 02:03 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 02:02 LLuke wrote:
On September 17 2012 02:01 Grumbels wrote:
stephano has strongest zvz in europe, I don't know why people constantly call it 'weak'


Compared to his other matchups, it appears weak...or so. People seem to treat it that way, imho.


He has one of the best ZvZs in Europe, but his ZvP and ZvT are way ahead of Europe. That's why people treat it that way.


Exactly! Doesn't mean his ZvZ is weak, that's was I originally wanted to say. Was the same back when DRG didnt have that much exposure outside of his ZvT.
Tripping off the beat kinda, dripping off the meatgrinder
scypio
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland2127 Posts
September 16 2012 17:04 GMT
#2908
On September 17 2012 01:58 opterown wrote:
i got busted by rents, hope a mod can update lol gg


Oh no.... give us opterown back!
I play random | I like Hots | INnoVation | sOs | Tefel TOP1!
LLuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria228 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-16 17:05:27
September 16 2012 17:04 GMT
#2909
EDIT: double post delete please SORRY
Tripping off the beat kinda, dripping off the meatgrinder
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
September 16 2012 17:05 GMT
#2910
On September 17 2012 02:03 Ksquared wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 02:01 Grumbels wrote:
stephano has strongest zvz in europe, I don't know why people constantly call it 'weak'

Its kind of like saying Flash is weak at TvP


..In bw or sc2? Because in sc2 it's his best matchup by a long shot.
TeveT
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden148 Posts
September 16 2012 17:06 GMT
#2911
On September 17 2012 02:03 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 02:02 TeveT wrote:
On September 17 2012 02:00 TheHova wrote:
On September 17 2012 01:58 Boucot wrote:
Wow 65k viewers !


That's one stream, there's other foreign speaking streams with acouple of k and 5k too ^_^


and atleast 3k here in the globe if course... dont forget us.. ;-)


You are not allowed to browse through TL while at an e-sport event. Destroy the i-phone and proceed to tie yourself to the chair.

i would never touch an iphone... ;-) but youre right, ill start focusing more.. :-P
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
September 16 2012 17:06 GMT
#2912
On September 17 2012 02:02 Grummler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 01:57 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
Only 1 terran in top 7 TT

The globals are going to be a PvP, ZvZ, and PvZ fest - my 3 least favourite match ups!

Captian Obvious just came around and told me that your 3 most favourite match ups are TvZ, TvT and TvP. Same for me!

Edit: The terran count is for sure very low, i just checked the numbers.


Yeah and you'd think that means I'm a terran player. I'm not, I'm protoss! I find protoss very fun to play, but pretty dreadful to watch unless it's LiquidHero
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
September 16 2012 17:07 GMT
#2913
Apollo / kael is quickly becoming one of my mostliked duo.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-16 17:08:23
September 16 2012 17:07 GMT
#2914
Stephano floating at 350 APM... Way ahead of the bulk of European pros.
Granter
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden64 Posts
September 16 2012 17:07 GMT
#2915
have to say that i really love all swedish tournaments, 720+ free, no retarded commercials, makes MLG look pretty shit imo.
If something can be achieved easily, it probably isnt worth it
SasukeStreams
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands174 Posts
September 16 2012 17:09 GMT
#2916
On September 17 2012 01:56 SasukeStreams wrote:
Name of the song they just played after that game?


Guys ( What was the name of the song they played after game 1 of Vortix/Stephano? I'd really like to know!
Swiipii
Profile Joined January 2012
2195 Posts
September 16 2012 17:09 GMT
#2917
On September 17 2012 02:03 Dodgin wrote:
When I think of Stephano ZvZ I think of him getting 2-0'd by Violet at MLG by going for a 6 pool drone pull and losing, and then Violet doing the same thing in the next game and winning.

No Violet 10 pool'ed which is completly different against a hatch first .

Stephano's ZvZ is inconsistent . When it matters he tends to shine but sometimes he just loses straight away .
mYiKane
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1772 Posts
September 16 2012 17:10 GMT
#2918
ouch... thats gotta hurt
Mosquitow
Profile Joined September 2011
England510 Posts
September 16 2012 17:10 GMT
#2919
lol
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
September 16 2012 17:10 GMT
#2920
Wow that was a terrible game
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