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[Code S] RO32 Group F 2012 GSL Season 4 - Page 107

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AimlessAmoeba
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada704 Posts
September 11 2012 14:32 GMT
#2121
poor nani =(

Will any foreigner step up and win a Code S?
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
September 11 2012 14:35 GMT
#2122
On September 11 2012 23:32 AimlessAmoeba wrote:
poor nani =(

Will any foreigner step up and win a Code S?


Working on it.
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
September 11 2012 14:47 GMT
#2123
On September 11 2012 23:32 AimlessAmoeba wrote:
poor nani =(

Will any foreigner step up and win a Code S?


Well, with like 2 foreigners in each GSL. Even if assuming all players are equal, the chances of a foreigner winning is 1/16. I definitely think it CAN happen but a lot of things need to go well and align. A few things against the foreigners

1) The 2 that have the highest chance (Nani, Stephano) still have a very weak matchup (vZ). Previous, players like Mvp and MMA got by with a weak vP but the race ratio is much more balance now.

2) Koreans are more used preparation BoX matches which just doesn't apply to a majority of foreign events.

3) Kespa players are incoming so the talent pool in Korea has increased dramatically.
BigBossX
Profile Joined September 2008
United Kingdom357 Posts
September 11 2012 15:11 GMT
#2124
Haha, naniwa such utter trash. Lol at 55 stupid people polling for naniwa over heart .... come on naniwa is so overrated he never stood a chance. Much like every other foreigner out there.

User was warned for this post
shockaslim
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1105 Posts
September 11 2012 15:14 GMT
#2125
On September 11 2012 23:47 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2012 23:32 AimlessAmoeba wrote:
poor nani =(

Will any foreigner step up and win a Code S?


Well, with like 2 foreigners in each GSL. Even if assuming all players are equal, the chances of a foreigner winning is 1/16. I definitely think it CAN happen but a lot of things need to go well and align. A few things against the foreigners

1) The 2 that have the highest chance (Nani, Stephano) still have a very weak matchup (vZ). Previous, players like Mvp and MMA got by with a weak vP but the race ratio is much more balance now.

2) Koreans are more used preparation BoX matches which just doesn't apply to a majority of foreign events.

3) Kespa players are incoming so the talent pool in Korea has increased dramatically.



I dunno. MVP had to crush all of those Protoss players in his last GSL win and a few of them were particularly strong against Terran.
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SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
September 11 2012 15:19 GMT
#2126
I thought Naniwa got kinda lucky with his group. It is tough obviously because it's Code S, but it wasn't anything like Mana's group.
I didn't see the games for myself so I can't judge whether he just played cruddy, or that I under estimated the other players.
I am happy to see Squirtle move on though!
wozzot
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1227 Posts
September 11 2012 15:22 GMT
#2127
On September 11 2012 23:00 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2012 22:54 vthree wrote:
On September 11 2012 22:46 Vindicare605 wrote:
On September 11 2012 22:12 Waxangel wrote:
if two zergs and a protoss get through, we can have 5:5:6 perfect balance :D


This is going to rely on either DRG or Nestea breaking their slumps as well as Life performing up to his new raised expectations.

This is also relying on JYP winning a group that has Nestea and Supernova in it.

I don't know, the odds are looking good right now for a Terran heavy RO16. Not that I think that's a bad thing. It's good to see Terran finally bouncing back from a miniature dark age.

And even then Terran heavy or not. Someone still needs to figure out how to get past Seed, otherwise I see no reason why IM won't take another trophy for their trophy case.


Seed is one of the favorites but so are players like Taeja, Squirtle, and others. I don't really see anyone as an overwhelming favorites since there are still so many great players left.


From what I've seen so far in the RO32 and the GSTL. Seed is looking dominant, while Taeja and Squirtle are just looking strong.

However:

Seed managed to avoid playing Leenock (who looks like he's spending time in the hyperbolic time chamber) and Taeja didn't really demonstrate much outside of very strong TvT and the ability to stomp all over poor Mana, so maybe I'm underestimating him.

But from what I've seen so far, Seed looks like more of a favorite than Squirtle or Taeja do currently.


[image loading]

These are the top 7 player ELOs in Korea.

You live in a strange alternate universe where Squirtle and Taeja are not dominant players, it seems
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Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37058 Posts
September 11 2012 15:29 GMT
#2128
Interviews are up!

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Spaiku
Profile Joined July 2012
Spain1114 Posts
September 11 2012 15:31 GMT
#2129
On September 11 2012 16:54 InDesconrowl wrote:
Naniwa won't drop a map, believe that. He is motivated and in his best form because he has a new sponsor to impress. I will delete my account if Naniwa doesn't advance and I have 70% liquidbet correct votes out of a total 200.

R.I.P InDesconrowl
wozzot
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1227 Posts
September 11 2012 15:35 GMT
#2130
On September 12 2012 00:31 Yagami wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2012 16:54 InDesconrowl wrote:
Naniwa won't drop a map, believe that. He is motivated and in his best form because he has a new sponsor to impress. I will delete my account if Naniwa doesn't advance and I have 70% liquidbet correct votes out of a total 200.

R.I.P InDesconrowl


You forgot to post this:

On September 11 2012 20:02 InDesconrowl wrote:
Cancelling my GSL subscription because of heart cheesing every single game. I subscribed to watch Naniwa and then this happened...

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sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
September 11 2012 15:39 GMT
#2131
On September 12 2012 00:35 wozzot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 00:31 Yagami wrote:
On September 11 2012 16:54 InDesconrowl wrote:
Naniwa won't drop a map, believe that. He is motivated and in his best form because he has a new sponsor to impress. I will delete my account if Naniwa doesn't advance and I have 70% liquidbet correct votes out of a total 200.

R.I.P InDesconrowl


You forgot to post this:

Show nested quote +
On September 11 2012 20:02 InDesconrowl wrote:
Cancelling my GSL subscription because of heart cheesing every single game. I subscribed to watch Naniwa and then this happened...


This is amazing. I may have to go watch the VODs now...
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
Vaftrudner
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden1185 Posts
September 11 2012 15:40 GMT
#2132
I'm sad to see Naniwa fall out of Code S. To be honest, he hasn't played well the last few months so it's not unfair nor unexpected. He hasn't shown Code S calibre. But he's a smart and innovative player, I believe that if he can get back in shape again, he can go further than before. It would be horrible if he fell out of Code A in the first game, I really hope he can get back up on the horse. Not only for his own sake, but for the hopes of foreigners. It's especially fun for us Swedes to have a countryman to root for.

And to the people who like to gloat and hate, take a moment to think about why you bring so much negativity into a wonderful sport like SC2, when there is so much good to focus on. Listen to Artosis.
"Starcraft 2 was designed to have a best race. You play the worst one." - Day9
Grani
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany50 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-11 15:52:37
September 11 2012 15:51 GMT
#2133
If Naniwa wouldn't be a progamer, he would be a serial killer with that look while he's playing.

Also GOM has to distribute Code S seeds again, because with the current skill level no non-Korean progamer will get into Code A, not to mention Code S.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
September 11 2012 16:06 GMT
#2134
On September 12 2012 00:35 wozzot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 00:31 Yagami wrote:
On September 11 2012 16:54 InDesconrowl wrote:
Naniwa won't drop a map, believe that. He is motivated and in his best form because he has a new sponsor to impress. I will delete my account if Naniwa doesn't advance and I have 70% liquidbet correct votes out of a total 200.

R.I.P InDesconrowl


You forgot to post this:

Show nested quote +
On September 11 2012 20:02 InDesconrowl wrote:
Cancelling my GSL subscription because of heart cheesing every single game. I subscribed to watch Naniwa and then this happened...



What happens when Naniwa loses in the first round of Code A and falls out of GSL altogether?
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
September 11 2012 16:10 GMT
#2135
On September 12 2012 00:14 shockaslim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2012 23:47 vthree wrote:
On September 11 2012 23:32 AimlessAmoeba wrote:
poor nani =(

Will any foreigner step up and win a Code S?


Well, with like 2 foreigners in each GSL. Even if assuming all players are equal, the chances of a foreigner winning is 1/16. I definitely think it CAN happen but a lot of things need to go well and align. A few things against the foreigners

1) The 2 that have the highest chance (Nani, Stephano) still have a very weak matchup (vZ). Previous, players like Mvp and MMA got by with a weak vP but the race ratio is much more balance now.

2) Koreans are more used preparation BoX matches which just doesn't apply to a majority of foreign events.

3) Kespa players are incoming so the talent pool in Korea has increased dramatically.



I dunno. MVP had to crush all of those Protoss players in his last GSL win and a few of them were particularly strong against Terran.


I was mainly referring to Aug-Oct last year when P representation was very very low.
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
September 11 2012 16:27 GMT
#2136
Feel bad for Naniwa though I am really not his fan. I remember his interview last season, how much he wanted to show what he's capable of.

Tough to show off anything when you're dealing with a player like Heart.
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
September 11 2012 18:53 GMT
#2137
Congratz to heart and squirtle. T_T nani
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VaderZerg
Profile Joined November 2011
United States17 Posts
September 11 2012 18:58 GMT
#2138
Wish naniwa could have advanced, but I actually enjoy watching heart
mongmong
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)1389 Posts
September 11 2012 19:11 GMT
#2139
I wake up to see what happened.

Really glad that Naniwa got knocked out.

There are more players that deserve code S spot

than Naniwa. I hope i dont see him in code S again ^_^
어헣 ↗ 어헣 ↗
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
September 11 2012 19:29 GMT
#2140
On September 12 2012 00:22 wozzot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2012 23:00 Vindicare605 wrote:
On September 11 2012 22:54 vthree wrote:
On September 11 2012 22:46 Vindicare605 wrote:
On September 11 2012 22:12 Waxangel wrote:
if two zergs and a protoss get through, we can have 5:5:6 perfect balance :D


This is going to rely on either DRG or Nestea breaking their slumps as well as Life performing up to his new raised expectations.

This is also relying on JYP winning a group that has Nestea and Supernova in it.

I don't know, the odds are looking good right now for a Terran heavy RO16. Not that I think that's a bad thing. It's good to see Terran finally bouncing back from a miniature dark age.

And even then Terran heavy or not. Someone still needs to figure out how to get past Seed, otherwise I see no reason why IM won't take another trophy for their trophy case.


Seed is one of the favorites but so are players like Taeja, Squirtle, and others. I don't really see anyone as an overwhelming favorites since there are still so many great players left.


From what I've seen so far in the RO32 and the GSTL. Seed is looking dominant, while Taeja and Squirtle are just looking strong.

However:

Seed managed to avoid playing Leenock (who looks like he's spending time in the hyperbolic time chamber) and Taeja didn't really demonstrate much outside of very strong TvT and the ability to stomp all over poor Mana, so maybe I'm underestimating him.

But from what I've seen so far, Seed looks like more of a favorite than Squirtle or Taeja do currently.


[image loading]

These are the top 7 player ELOs in Korea.

You live in a strange alternate universe where Squirtle and Taeja are not dominant players, it seems


I'm talking specifically about the last few games in GSL and GSTL.

I'm not talking careers, I'm not even talking about their trending performances over the last few months and I'm not even making a claim that's intended to be interpreted as fact, I'm just voicing an opinion for purposes of discussion.

But sure post their ELOs. Like I'm not already totally aware of them.
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