• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:38
CEST 17:38
KST 00:38
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists14[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy21
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers11Maestros of the Game 2 announced32026 GSL Tour plans announced10Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid20
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail MaNa leaves Team Liquid Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued 2026 GSL Tour plans announced
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) SEL Doubles (SC Evo Bimonthly) $5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power
Brood War
General
Pros React To: Tulbo in Ro.16 Group A RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL21 General Discussion BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [ASL21] Ro16 Group B Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Reappraising The Situation T…
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2866 users

[Code S] RO32 Group F 2012 GSL Season 4 - Page 107

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 105 106 107 108 109 Next
AimlessAmoeba
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada704 Posts
September 11 2012 14:32 GMT
#2121
poor nani =(

Will any foreigner step up and win a Code S?
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
September 11 2012 14:35 GMT
#2122
On September 11 2012 23:32 AimlessAmoeba wrote:
poor nani =(

Will any foreigner step up and win a Code S?


Working on it.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
September 11 2012 14:47 GMT
#2123
On September 11 2012 23:32 AimlessAmoeba wrote:
poor nani =(

Will any foreigner step up and win a Code S?


Well, with like 2 foreigners in each GSL. Even if assuming all players are equal, the chances of a foreigner winning is 1/16. I definitely think it CAN happen but a lot of things need to go well and align. A few things against the foreigners

1) The 2 that have the highest chance (Nani, Stephano) still have a very weak matchup (vZ). Previous, players like Mvp and MMA got by with a weak vP but the race ratio is much more balance now.

2) Koreans are more used preparation BoX matches which just doesn't apply to a majority of foreign events.

3) Kespa players are incoming so the talent pool in Korea has increased dramatically.
BigBossX
Profile Joined September 2008
United Kingdom357 Posts
September 11 2012 15:11 GMT
#2124
Haha, naniwa such utter trash. Lol at 55 stupid people polling for naniwa over heart .... come on naniwa is so overrated he never stood a chance. Much like every other foreigner out there.

User was warned for this post
shockaslim
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1105 Posts
September 11 2012 15:14 GMT
#2125
On September 11 2012 23:47 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2012 23:32 AimlessAmoeba wrote:
poor nani =(

Will any foreigner step up and win a Code S?


Well, with like 2 foreigners in each GSL. Even if assuming all players are equal, the chances of a foreigner winning is 1/16. I definitely think it CAN happen but a lot of things need to go well and align. A few things against the foreigners

1) The 2 that have the highest chance (Nani, Stephano) still have a very weak matchup (vZ). Previous, players like Mvp and MMA got by with a weak vP but the race ratio is much more balance now.

2) Koreans are more used preparation BoX matches which just doesn't apply to a majority of foreign events.

3) Kespa players are incoming so the talent pool in Korea has increased dramatically.



I dunno. MVP had to crush all of those Protoss players in his last GSL win and a few of them were particularly strong against Terran.
Dirty Deeds...DONE DIRT CHEAP!!!
SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
September 11 2012 15:19 GMT
#2126
I thought Naniwa got kinda lucky with his group. It is tough obviously because it's Code S, but it wasn't anything like Mana's group.
I didn't see the games for myself so I can't judge whether he just played cruddy, or that I under estimated the other players.
I am happy to see Squirtle move on though!
wozzot
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1227 Posts
September 11 2012 15:22 GMT
#2127
On September 11 2012 23:00 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2012 22:54 vthree wrote:
On September 11 2012 22:46 Vindicare605 wrote:
On September 11 2012 22:12 Waxangel wrote:
if two zergs and a protoss get through, we can have 5:5:6 perfect balance :D


This is going to rely on either DRG or Nestea breaking their slumps as well as Life performing up to his new raised expectations.

This is also relying on JYP winning a group that has Nestea and Supernova in it.

I don't know, the odds are looking good right now for a Terran heavy RO16. Not that I think that's a bad thing. It's good to see Terran finally bouncing back from a miniature dark age.

And even then Terran heavy or not. Someone still needs to figure out how to get past Seed, otherwise I see no reason why IM won't take another trophy for their trophy case.


Seed is one of the favorites but so are players like Taeja, Squirtle, and others. I don't really see anyone as an overwhelming favorites since there are still so many great players left.


From what I've seen so far in the RO32 and the GSTL. Seed is looking dominant, while Taeja and Squirtle are just looking strong.

However:

Seed managed to avoid playing Leenock (who looks like he's spending time in the hyperbolic time chamber) and Taeja didn't really demonstrate much outside of very strong TvT and the ability to stomp all over poor Mana, so maybe I'm underestimating him.

But from what I've seen so far, Seed looks like more of a favorite than Squirtle or Taeja do currently.


[image loading]

These are the top 7 player ELOs in Korea.

You live in a strange alternate universe where Squirtle and Taeja are not dominant players, it seems
(ノ´∀`*)ノ ♪ ♫ ヽ(´ー`)ノ ♪ ♫ (✌゚∀゚)☞ ♪ ♫ ヽ(´ー`)ノ ♫ ♫ (ノ´_ゝ`)ノ彡 ┻━┻
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37071 Posts
September 11 2012 15:29 GMT
#2128
Interviews are up!

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=367913
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
Spaiku
Profile Joined July 2012
Spain1114 Posts
September 11 2012 15:31 GMT
#2129
On September 11 2012 16:54 InDesconrowl wrote:
Naniwa won't drop a map, believe that. He is motivated and in his best form because he has a new sponsor to impress. I will delete my account if Naniwa doesn't advance and I have 70% liquidbet correct votes out of a total 200.

R.I.P InDesconrowl
wozzot
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1227 Posts
September 11 2012 15:35 GMT
#2130
On September 12 2012 00:31 Yagami wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2012 16:54 InDesconrowl wrote:
Naniwa won't drop a map, believe that. He is motivated and in his best form because he has a new sponsor to impress. I will delete my account if Naniwa doesn't advance and I have 70% liquidbet correct votes out of a total 200.

R.I.P InDesconrowl


You forgot to post this:

On September 11 2012 20:02 InDesconrowl wrote:
Cancelling my GSL subscription because of heart cheesing every single game. I subscribed to watch Naniwa and then this happened...

(ノ´∀`*)ノ ♪ ♫ ヽ(´ー`)ノ ♪ ♫ (✌゚∀゚)☞ ♪ ♫ ヽ(´ー`)ノ ♫ ♫ (ノ´_ゝ`)ノ彡 ┻━┻
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
September 11 2012 15:39 GMT
#2131
On September 12 2012 00:35 wozzot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 00:31 Yagami wrote:
On September 11 2012 16:54 InDesconrowl wrote:
Naniwa won't drop a map, believe that. He is motivated and in his best form because he has a new sponsor to impress. I will delete my account if Naniwa doesn't advance and I have 70% liquidbet correct votes out of a total 200.

R.I.P InDesconrowl


You forgot to post this:

Show nested quote +
On September 11 2012 20:02 InDesconrowl wrote:
Cancelling my GSL subscription because of heart cheesing every single game. I subscribed to watch Naniwa and then this happened...


This is amazing. I may have to go watch the VODs now...
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
Vaftrudner
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden1185 Posts
September 11 2012 15:40 GMT
#2132
I'm sad to see Naniwa fall out of Code S. To be honest, he hasn't played well the last few months so it's not unfair nor unexpected. He hasn't shown Code S calibre. But he's a smart and innovative player, I believe that if he can get back in shape again, he can go further than before. It would be horrible if he fell out of Code A in the first game, I really hope he can get back up on the horse. Not only for his own sake, but for the hopes of foreigners. It's especially fun for us Swedes to have a countryman to root for.

And to the people who like to gloat and hate, take a moment to think about why you bring so much negativity into a wonderful sport like SC2, when there is so much good to focus on. Listen to Artosis.
"Starcraft 2 was designed to have a best race. You play the worst one." - Day9
Grani
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany50 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-11 15:52:37
September 11 2012 15:51 GMT
#2133
If Naniwa wouldn't be a progamer, he would be a serial killer with that look while he's playing.

Also GOM has to distribute Code S seeds again, because with the current skill level no non-Korean progamer will get into Code A, not to mention Code S.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
September 11 2012 16:06 GMT
#2134
On September 12 2012 00:35 wozzot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 00:31 Yagami wrote:
On September 11 2012 16:54 InDesconrowl wrote:
Naniwa won't drop a map, believe that. He is motivated and in his best form because he has a new sponsor to impress. I will delete my account if Naniwa doesn't advance and I have 70% liquidbet correct votes out of a total 200.

R.I.P InDesconrowl


You forgot to post this:

Show nested quote +
On September 11 2012 20:02 InDesconrowl wrote:
Cancelling my GSL subscription because of heart cheesing every single game. I subscribed to watch Naniwa and then this happened...



What happens when Naniwa loses in the first round of Code A and falls out of GSL altogether?
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
September 11 2012 16:10 GMT
#2135
On September 12 2012 00:14 shockaslim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2012 23:47 vthree wrote:
On September 11 2012 23:32 AimlessAmoeba wrote:
poor nani =(

Will any foreigner step up and win a Code S?


Well, with like 2 foreigners in each GSL. Even if assuming all players are equal, the chances of a foreigner winning is 1/16. I definitely think it CAN happen but a lot of things need to go well and align. A few things against the foreigners

1) The 2 that have the highest chance (Nani, Stephano) still have a very weak matchup (vZ). Previous, players like Mvp and MMA got by with a weak vP but the race ratio is much more balance now.

2) Koreans are more used preparation BoX matches which just doesn't apply to a majority of foreign events.

3) Kespa players are incoming so the talent pool in Korea has increased dramatically.



I dunno. MVP had to crush all of those Protoss players in his last GSL win and a few of them were particularly strong against Terran.


I was mainly referring to Aug-Oct last year when P representation was very very low.
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
September 11 2012 16:27 GMT
#2136
Feel bad for Naniwa though I am really not his fan. I remember his interview last season, how much he wanted to show what he's capable of.

Tough to show off anything when you're dealing with a player like Heart.
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
September 11 2012 18:53 GMT
#2137
Congratz to heart and squirtle. T_T nani
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
VaderZerg
Profile Joined November 2011
United States17 Posts
September 11 2012 18:58 GMT
#2138
Wish naniwa could have advanced, but I actually enjoy watching heart
mongmong
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)1389 Posts
September 11 2012 19:11 GMT
#2139
I wake up to see what happened.

Really glad that Naniwa got knocked out.

There are more players that deserve code S spot

than Naniwa. I hope i dont see him in code S again ^_^
어헣 ↗ 어헣 ↗
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
September 11 2012 19:29 GMT
#2140
On September 12 2012 00:22 wozzot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2012 23:00 Vindicare605 wrote:
On September 11 2012 22:54 vthree wrote:
On September 11 2012 22:46 Vindicare605 wrote:
On September 11 2012 22:12 Waxangel wrote:
if two zergs and a protoss get through, we can have 5:5:6 perfect balance :D


This is going to rely on either DRG or Nestea breaking their slumps as well as Life performing up to his new raised expectations.

This is also relying on JYP winning a group that has Nestea and Supernova in it.

I don't know, the odds are looking good right now for a Terran heavy RO16. Not that I think that's a bad thing. It's good to see Terran finally bouncing back from a miniature dark age.

And even then Terran heavy or not. Someone still needs to figure out how to get past Seed, otherwise I see no reason why IM won't take another trophy for their trophy case.


Seed is one of the favorites but so are players like Taeja, Squirtle, and others. I don't really see anyone as an overwhelming favorites since there are still so many great players left.


From what I've seen so far in the RO32 and the GSTL. Seed is looking dominant, while Taeja and Squirtle are just looking strong.

However:

Seed managed to avoid playing Leenock (who looks like he's spending time in the hyperbolic time chamber) and Taeja didn't really demonstrate much outside of very strong TvT and the ability to stomp all over poor Mana, so maybe I'm underestimating him.

But from what I've seen so far, Seed looks like more of a favorite than Squirtle or Taeja do currently.


[image loading]

These are the top 7 player ELOs in Korea.

You live in a strange alternate universe where Squirtle and Taeja are not dominant players, it seems


I'm talking specifically about the last few games in GSL and GSTL.

I'm not talking careers, I'm not even talking about their trending performances over the last few months and I'm not even making a claim that's intended to be interpreted as fact, I'm just voicing an opinion for purposes of discussion.

But sure post their ELOs. Like I'm not already totally aware of them.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Prev 1 105 106 107 108 109 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
15:00
King of the Hill #244
Liquipedia
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
11:00
Group B
WardiTV1259
TKL 322
Rex115
3DClanTV 77
Liquipedia
Escore
10:00
Week 3
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
TKL 322
RotterdaM 162
Rex 112
StarCraft: Brood War
Jaedong 1165
EffOrt 398
Mini 382
Soma 287
actioN 267
Snow 191
Rush 124
Hyuk 123
Soulkey 108
Dewaltoss 79
[ Show more ]
Hyun 78
Aegong 76
Sexy 70
scan(afreeca) 61
JYJ 45
Backho 28
Rock 24
Terrorterran 22
Hm[arnc] 17
JulyZerg 14
Bale 11
Britney 0
eros_byul 0
Dota 2
Gorgc4173
qojqva2209
ODPixel203
League of Legends
Reynor88
Counter-Strike
fl0m5510
olofmeister2012
kRYSTAL_33
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King76
Other Games
singsing2081
B2W.Neo1817
FrodaN1007
hiko717
DeMusliM344
crisheroes135
ArmadaUGS88
QueenE49
Trikslyr49
KnowMe37
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV399
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 21 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 58
• EnkiAlexander 44
• poizon28 17
• LUISG 12
• iHatsuTV 4
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix6
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV344
League of Legends
• Nemesis3268
• Jankos1820
• TFBlade1631
Other Games
• Shiphtur160
Upcoming Events
Big Brain Bouts
23m
MaNa vs goblin
Scarlett vs Spirit
Serral vs herO
RotterdaM162
Korean StarCraft League
11h 23m
CranKy Ducklings
18h 23m
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
19h 23m
IPSL
1d
WolFix vs nOmaD
dxtr13 vs Razz
BSL
1d 3h
UltrA vs KwarK
Gosudark vs cavapoo
dxtr13 vs HBO
Doodle vs Razz
Patches Events
1d 6h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 8h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 18h
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
1d 19h
[ Show More ]
Ladder Legends
1d 23h
BSL
2 days
StRyKeR vs rasowy
Artosis vs Aether
JDConan vs OyAji
Hawk vs izu
IPSL
2 days
JDConan vs TBD
Aegong vs rasowy
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Bisu vs Ample
Jaedong vs Flash
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Barracks vs Leta
Royal vs Light
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-04-16
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Escore Tournament S2: W3
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W4
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.