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There's no crowd today because Gamescom isn't open to the public until thursday
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
August 15 2012 16:11 GMT
#3041
On August 16 2012 01:09 dafunk wrote:
Still very unsafe imo to try a basetrade...

glad it worked but it wasnt as easy as it could've been for nestea.

What? You always base trade in that situation. It's when you hesitate or turn around that you lose in those situations.
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
August 15 2012 16:11 GMT
#3042
On August 16 2012 01:10 silent_owl wrote:
Moonglade casting again. Did he play?

Nope, only open bracket today. Group play will start tomorrow, but I don't think his group's playing til Friday maybe?
Long live the King of Wings
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
August 15 2012 16:11 GMT
#3043
On August 16 2012 01:09 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 01:08 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Saw that coming, Nestea loves to base trade in this mu


You kind of have to when you go mass mutas like Nestea did


ofc, I mean before the match got underway. He's probably the most frequent muta user in ZvP.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Forgottenfrog
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States1268 Posts
August 15 2012 16:11 GMT
#3044
I have a quick question. Are all the streams displaying the same games or do they stream different games?
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
August 15 2012 16:12 GMT
#3045
On August 16 2012 01:10 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 01:07 silent_owl wrote:
Nestea still quite fond of mutas in all matchups, I see. Haven't seen him play much.


How can you be an IM fan and not see much of nestea?


I'm an SKT fan. Moving to IM because of Seed.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
HotGlueGun
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1409 Posts
August 15 2012 16:12 GMT
#3046
Luciforn vs JYP is live http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/TheGunrun
Don't hoot with the Owls at night if you cant soar with the Eagles at dawn.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
August 15 2012 16:12 GMT
#3047
I think it is a bad idea to attack Nestea early. He is still very strong in the early/mid game. It is his late game that is faltering.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8504 Posts
August 15 2012 16:13 GMT
#3048
I really miss the early days where ogSSKS used to rule :-(

Nestea having his fun after the catastrophic gateway push...
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
August 15 2012 16:14 GMT
#3049
Comon lucifron. You should be able to beat both jyp and forgg.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
August 15 2012 16:14 GMT
#3050
On August 16 2012 01:12 vthree wrote:
I think it is a bad idea to attack Nestea early. He is still very strong in the early/mid game. It is his late game that is faltering.


Probably due to his mechanics lagging with his age.

I'm not dissing him. He said so himself in the past.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
A Wet Shamwow
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1590 Posts
August 15 2012 16:15 GMT
#3051
On August 16 2012 01:13 Doublemint wrote:
I really miss the early days where ogSSKS used to rule :-(

Nestea having his fun after the catastrophic gateway push...

wow I even forgot that used to be his name, holy shit.
“Life is a gamble, at terrible odds. If it were a bet you wouldn’t take it.”
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
August 15 2012 16:15 GMT
#3052
Gas heavy for Killer. Wonder what tech he's gonna use.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-15 16:17:11
August 15 2012 16:15 GMT
#3053
On August 16 2012 01:10 ZeromuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 01:09 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Silly Killer, engaging mutas with stalkers


Watching mutas makes me wonder if Elfi has it right. 3 Sgate pheonix into pool energy destroying mineral lines.


Nah he doesn't. There's no way to beat mass muta as protoss if zerg plays it correctly. I still consider it the most imbalanced thing in all of SC2.
You'll never have the money to go 3 stargate phoenix and if you do, zerg will remax on lings and counterattack and you will die. Only thing that beats it is a massive archon toilet and immediate counterattack that kills the zerg.
Mass muta expands like crazy. Hatches, spines and mutas.

Don't stone me, this ain't balance whining!
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25177 Posts
August 15 2012 16:15 GMT
#3054
On August 16 2012 01:14 silent_owl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 01:12 vthree wrote:
I think it is a bad idea to attack Nestea early. He is still very strong in the early/mid game. It is his late game that is faltering.


Probably due to his mechanics lagging with his age.

I'm not dissing him. He said so himself in the past.

Did he say that? I just thought he had said his mechanics, even when young were never his strong suit. Even with his strategic intelligence he just wasn't fast enough to keep up in BW against other Kespa players
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
August 15 2012 16:16 GMT
#3055
On August 16 2012 01:12 silent_owl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 01:10 bo1b wrote:
On August 16 2012 01:07 silent_owl wrote:
Nestea still quite fond of mutas in all matchups, I see. Haven't seen him play much.


How can you be an IM fan and not see much of nestea?


I'm an SKT fan. Moving to IM because of Seed.


Surprised you're not a Slayers fan.
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
August 15 2012 16:16 GMT
#3056
Nice wall by Killer. He's very welcoming to guests.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
August 15 2012 16:17 GMT
#3057
On August 16 2012 01:15 A Wet Shamwow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 01:13 Doublemint wrote:
I really miss the early days where ogSSKS used to rule :-(

Nestea having his fun after the catastrophic gateway push...

wow I even forgot that used to be his name, holy shit.



... Killer is SangHo,

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Killer_(Korean_player)

SKS was Seo Ki Soo aka Tester

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Tester
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
Secret05
Profile Joined August 2010
United States342 Posts
August 15 2012 16:17 GMT
#3058
Have the groups for this not been announced yet?
Michigan Zerg Player
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8504 Posts
August 15 2012 16:19 GMT
#3059
On August 16 2012 01:17 ZeromuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 01:15 A Wet Shamwow wrote:
On August 16 2012 01:13 Doublemint wrote:
I really miss the early days where ogSSKS used to rule :-(

Nestea having his fun after the catastrophic gateway push...

wow I even forgot that used to be his name, holy shit.



... Killer is SangHo,

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Killer_(Korean_player)

SKS was Seo Ki Soo aka Tester

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Tester

oh damn must have mixed them up... my bad!

thx for clarification
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
August 15 2012 16:19 GMT
#3060
On August 16 2012 01:15 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 01:10 ZeromuS wrote:
On August 16 2012 01:09 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Silly Killer, engaging mutas with stalkers


Watching mutas makes me wonder if Elfi has it right. 3 Sgate pheonix into pool energy destroying mineral lines.


Nah he doesn't. There's no way to beat mass muta as protoss if zerg plays it correctly. I still consider it the most imbalanced thing in all of SC2.
You'll never have the money to go 3 stargate phoenix and if you do, zerg will remax on lings and counterattack and you will die. Only thing that beats it is a massive archon toilet and immediate counterattack that kills the zerg.
Mass muta expands like crazy. Hatches, spines and mutas.

Don't stone me, this ain't balance whining!


I know its not, Mutas are one of those things that snowball really really quickly. Especially against protoss since we dont have consistent reliable AA AoE

(thor splash instant damage, storm is over time and they can dodge this is what I mean)
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
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