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NASL Announces Qualifiers for Season 4!
The North American Star League is pleased to announce the Next Season Qualifiers for NASL Season 4. This season, aspiring StarCraft II players will have four opportunities to win a prestigious spot in the league, as four tournaments will take place over the course four weeks. Sign up now!
Beginning on August 9th, one tournament will take place each week, with the winner earning $750 and a coveted spot in NASL Season 4. The second place finisher of each tournament will receive a conciliatory prize of $250.
Those who aspire to one day walk down the NASL red carpet and claim their own championship are encouraged to register at Beyond Gaming. Full tournament rules are listed on Beyond Gaming's site, as well.
ALL REPLAYS MUST BE EMAILED TO XERIS@NASL.TV with: USER NAME + ROUND + OPPONENT NAME in the subject. Also, NO SMURFING! In order to be eligible you must be on your main account!
NSQ1 Tournament Schedule (Start time: 00:00 GMT (+00:00))
- Thursday August 9th Ro256 - Ro128
- Friday August 10th Ro64 - Ro32
- Saturday August 11th Ro16 - Ro8
- Sunday August 12th Ro4 - Finals
Sign-Up Now!
NSQ2 Tournament Schedule (Start time: 00:00 GMT (+00:00))
- Thursday August 16th Ro256 - Ro128
- Friday August 17th Ro64 - Ro32
- Saturday August 18th Ro16 - Ro8
- Sunday August 19th Ro4 - Finals
Sign-Up Now!
NSQ3 Tournament Schedule (Start time: 00:00 GMT (+00:00))
- Thursday August 23th Ro256 - Ro128
- Friday August 24th Ro64 - Ro32
- Saturday August 25th Ro16 - Ro8
- Sunday August 26th Ro4 - Finals
Sign-Up Now!
NSQ4 Tournament Schedule (Start time: 00:00 GMT (+00:00))
- Thursday August 30th Ro256 - Ro128
- Friday August 31th Ro64 - Ro32
- Saturday September 1st Ro16 - Ro8
- Sunday September 2nd Ro4 - Finals
Sign-Up Now!
Prize Pool
1st Place - $750 + Spot in NASL Season 4
2nd Place - $250
Rules+ Show Spoiler [Rules] +NASL Open Tournament Rules
NASL Season 4 Qualifier
Format: 4 - 256 players single elimination tournaments. All matches are BO3.
What’s at stake: The top 4 players will qualify for NASL Season 4
Cash Prize: $750 1st and $250 2nd
Dates: August 09 - Sep 02
Times: Each play day will begin at 5:00pm EDT (20 CET, 3:00am KST)
Channel: Tournament players will meet in channel NASL on the North American battle.net server.
Map Pool
NASL Ohana
NASL Cloud Kingdom
NASL Daybreak
TSL Entombed Valley
GSL Metropolis
Agreements
* By signing up for this tournament, you agree to participate in NASL Season 4 should you qualify. NASL
Season 4 will take place from approximately September – December, 2012. Each player will need to be
available once per week to play his/her matches for the duration of the season.
* In qualifying for NASL Season 4, the player’s team agrees to pay the $500 security deposit required of
the league
* The player must be on a team by the beginning of NASL Season 4 if he qualifies, if he is not on a team
at the time of this tournament
* The player will not be allowed to participate in any future NASL tournaments if he qualifies for the
season and fails to participate.
Rules
Playing the match – all games are 1on1: no observers are allowed except officially sanctioned NASL
casters and/or administrators. The correct maps MUST be used – a start map will be listed for each
round, and the loser will choose from the remaining maps in the map pool. No map can be repeated in a
series.
Free wins – If your opponent is not online or in the channel within 20 minutes of the scheduled time
of the match, you can take a free win. To report the free win, message one of the BG (Beyondgaming)
administrators.
Disconnects – If a disconnect occurs in the early stages of the game and/or without any major action,
the game will be re-played. If one party thinks he had a significant advantage, email xeris@nasl.tv with
your dispute, along with the replay, and an administrator will make a final decision.
SERVER – All games will be played on the NA Battle.net server, no exceptions.
Default Channel – All players will meet in channel NASL, (NASL1 and NASL2 if NASL is full). It is the
player’s responsibility to be in the channel at the time of the match. If a player is not in the channel and
his opponent cannot contact him, he is liable to be forfeit.
Default time – Each play-day will start at 8:00pm EDT (20 CET, 3:00am KST). You are responsible for
showing up on time.
Disputes – Any dispute not covered in the rules should be emailed to xeris@nasl.tv . Note: all disputes
must be made BEFORE the completion of a match. Disputes (such as a wrong map being played) made
after games have been played will be ignored, unless significant cheating, map hacking, or foul play has
occurred.
Reporting Results – All players must have BGLink downloaded and enabled. Results will update
automatically until the Ro16. At this point, all results and replays must be emailed to xeris@nasl.tv . All
replays must be attached for the result to be valid.
Administrative Decisions – All administrative decisions are final, and can go beyond the rules.
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woot woot :D quite a lot of signups so far, nice!
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Some cool signups already. This will be great. Would be nice to see some Acer players in season 4!
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Pretty good signups for now. Hopefully we get some more Euro's in there, despite the time. Koreans should be able to do it, I think.
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On August 04 2012 11:23 Dexington wrote:
Pretty good signups for now. Hopefully we get some more Euro's in there, despite the time. Koreans should be able to do it, I think.
it's at 9am kst which is normally fine but many korean progamers wake up quite late haha. hope they sleep early :p
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Already more people than the last qualifier round from the looks of it.
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lol that must blow, the second place winner only gets 250? he should at least get a spot in the Nasl getting that far
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Crank is in the qualifier so I guess he has to start finding a team soon
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How do people know who is in the qualifier?
On August 04 2012 13:22 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Crank is in the qualifier so I guess he has to start finding a team soon
He'll probably be contacted at IPL5 depending on his performance.
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On August 04 2012 13:27 CosmicSpiral wrote:How do people know who is in the qualifier? Show nested quote +On August 04 2012 13:22 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Crank is in the qualifier so I guess he has to start finding a team soon He'll probably be contacted at IPL5 depending on his performance.
IPL5 is ages away, or so I hear? November is a while haha
http://www.beyondgaming.com/competition/tournament/view/yeieo
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On August 04 2012 13:29 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2012 13:27 CosmicSpiral wrote:How do people know who is in the qualifier? On August 04 2012 13:22 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Crank is in the qualifier so I guess he has to start finding a team soon He'll probably be contacted at IPL5 depending on his performance. IPL5 is ages away, or so I hear? November is a while haha http://www.beyondgaming.com/competition/tournament/view/yeieo
looking at who has signed up so far I think it'll come down to minigun, scarlett, crank, or trimaster. Did I miss anyone really big? There's definitely some other people in there that can pull upsets off these players but I feel like those are the top four signed up so far.
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On August 04 2012 13:37 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2012 13:29 opterown wrote:On August 04 2012 13:27 CosmicSpiral wrote:How do people know who is in the qualifier? On August 04 2012 13:22 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Crank is in the qualifier so I guess he has to start finding a team soon He'll probably be contacted at IPL5 depending on his performance. IPL5 is ages away, or so I hear? November is a while haha http://www.beyondgaming.com/competition/tournament/view/yeieo looking at who has signed up so far I think it'll come down to minigun, scarlett, crank, or trimaster. Did I miss anyone really big? There's definitely some other people in there that can pull upsets off these players but I feel like those are the top four signed up so far.
You missed Sleep, Bly, and Heart.
Maybe the top prize should be bumped to $1000 and money given to top 4.
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Of the people signed up definitely Scarlett and Crank would be considered favourites, but it's very very early days for the sign ups.
The prize money is great. The qualifiers was a season 4 slot and a chance at the season 3 finals, this is much more immediately rewarding for the players.
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i wonder if any top koreans will sign up for this :p wouldn't mind seeing a few prime or fxo kids here. or heck, kespa players lololol
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On August 04 2012 13:41 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2012 13:37 Shellshock1122 wrote:On August 04 2012 13:29 opterown wrote:On August 04 2012 13:27 CosmicSpiral wrote:How do people know who is in the qualifier? On August 04 2012 13:22 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Crank is in the qualifier so I guess he has to start finding a team soon He'll probably be contacted at IPL5 depending on his performance. IPL5 is ages away, or so I hear? November is a while haha http://www.beyondgaming.com/competition/tournament/view/yeieo looking at who has signed up so far I think it'll come down to minigun, scarlett, crank, or trimaster. Did I miss anyone really big? There's definitely some other people in there that can pull upsets off these players but I feel like those are the top four signed up so far. You missed Sleep, Bly, and Heart. Maybe the top prize should be bumped to $1000 and money given to top 4.
yea apparently MMA just signed up too so this is getting pretty sick
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Will any games be streamed?
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I would expect it to be like the last round of Qualifiers where they broadcasted the Round of 8 onwards.
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Ah, it would be awesome seeing MMA in this. NASL needs more GSL champions
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Uhh, why only 4 spots? 12 got eliminated last season right?
NASL should really start using a better system, especially for the real season. The end of each season and seeing who gets a playoffs spot is confusing as fuck every season.
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On August 04 2012 21:58 Champloo wrote:
Uhh, why only 4 spots? 12 got eliminated last season right?
NASL should really start using a better system, especially for the real season. The end of each season and seeing who gets a playoffs spot is confusing as fuck every season.
4 new players from this qualifier, 4 new players (Masa, Galaxy, Beastqt, and finale) from the Open tournament, and 4 invites (I believe).
That being said, I wish NASL could have stated the rules for making the playoffs at the beginning rather than keep it hidden.
Edit: Changed sC to finale. Thank you Dexington.
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On August 04 2012 22:10 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2012 21:58 Champloo wrote:
Uhh, why only 4 spots? 12 got eliminated last season right?
NASL should really start using a better system, especially for the real season. The end of each season and seeing who gets a playoffs spot is confusing as fuck every season. 4 new players from this qualifier, 4 new players (Masa, Galaxy, Beastqt, and sC? I believe) from the Open tournament, and 4 invites (I believe). That being said, I wish NASL could have stated the rules for making the playoffs at the beginning rather than keep it hidden.
Finale, not sC
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On August 04 2012 21:58 Champloo wrote:
Uhh, why only 4 spots? 12 got eliminated last season right?
NASL should really start using a better system, especially for the real season. The end of each season and seeing who gets a playoffs spot is confusing as fuck every season.
It's been pretty similar every single season.
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how do i get to see the sign ups without registring? can someone copy paste them here?
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On August 05 2012 06:32 emis wrote:
how do i get to see the sign ups without registring? can someone copy paste them here?
On the website you just click join now and you can see the current sign ups. I was able to look at it without being logged in.
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On August 05 2012 06:32 emis wrote:
how do i get to see the sign ups without registring? can someone copy paste them here?
http://www.beyondgaming.com/competition/tournament/view/yeieo
Yay, Catz just signed up. So glad he's trying to get back in, his move to Peru unfortunately really gave him a poor start to the last season.
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Great, looking to be some good numbers here.
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Awesome stuff NASL!! pretty exciting :D :D
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On August 05 2012 05:47 Xeris wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2012 21:58 Champloo wrote:
Uhh, why only 4 spots? 12 got eliminated last season right?
NASL should really start using a better system, especially for the real season. The end of each season and seeing who gets a playoffs spot is confusing as fuck every season. It's been pretty similar every single season.
Using it every season doesn't make it less confusing.
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Someone should tell Lowely that he's already in NASL Season 4.
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On August 07 2012 08:44 BathTubNZ wrote:
Someone should tell Lowely that he's already in NASL Season 4.
He may have not confirmed in time, like Socke did last season.
I wonder if some of these guys are aware you need to be on a team to get a spot, regardless of winning. Some notables, like Future, CranK, ToD, AureS, Artist and DeathAngel, don't have a team as far as I know.
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On August 07 2012 09:23 Dexington wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2012 08:44 BathTubNZ wrote:
Someone should tell Lowely that he's already in NASL Season 4. He may have not confirmed in time, like Socke did last season. I wonder if some of these guys are aware you need to be on a team to get a spot, regardless of winning. Some notables, like Future, CranK, ToD, AureS, Artist and DeathAngel, don't have a team as far as I know.
I understand the team is for like, the deposit and accountability and so on, but it seems a tad weird rule to me, especially if people like Crank or so can't qualify
wonder if any more bigname koreans will sign up o.O
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I imagine it's a rule that NASL might ignore at their discretion, I can hardly imagine they would turn someone like Crank away if he won. Perhaps they would even allow a 'Team Crank' sort of situation as a temporary measure.
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Just so you know Sleep is listed as a member of x6 in the notable participants list, although he has left the team
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On August 07 2012 08:44 BathTubNZ wrote:
Someone should tell Lowely that he's already in NASL Season 4.
Just realized that isn't Lowely, it's FXOMinato using Lowely's account. He probably doesn't have an NA account. He doesn't show up on any team page on Liquipedia, but TLPD has a page for him.
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Ahh ok.
Some more great names have signed up, Socke, Nony, Incontrol, Machine, & Suppy!
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Man something like 140 people signed up for the first round, this is more like what I was expecting for the last round of qualifiers. There was probably a higher percentage of Koreans in the last lot though.
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Inca, IceCream, TOP and JookTo signed up
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On August 08 2012 22:07 opterown wrote:i can't find inca's signup 
At first I thought you were serious, but that's a well hidden DT joke.
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Such a ridiculous line up now.
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Guys -- just remember that matches start at ... 5pm PDT THURSDAY NIGHT (that's 9am KST Friday morning)... channel is NASL on the NA server. If NASL is filled... go to channel NASL1.
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Are you broadcasting any games as they're played?
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We'll be broadcasting from replays as soon as games are finished. The broadcast starts at 6pm, games themselves start at 5
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Cant wait for this! There is so much starcraft to watch this weekend. 
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Just a reminder: Games start at 5:00PM PDT TOMORROW (9AM KST Friday)
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Wow, seriously the names keep coming Spanishiwa, Theognis, Ostojiy, Slayers Min & Miya, Golden & State. NASL.tv I hope you guys are set to do a whole bunch of casting over the next few days.
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devs, i wanted to see creator, byun, mkp, etc. hopefully the next few!
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On August 09 2012 19:48 BathTubNZ wrote:
Wow, seriously the names keep coming Spanishiwa, Theognis, Ostojiy, Slayers Min & Miya, Golden & State. NASL.tv I hope you guys are set to do a whole bunch of casting over the next few days.
Nice, it would be so cool to see Spanishiwa and State in the NASL. They got to get Illusion to sign up for this too.
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At this point I'd be surprised to see a non Korean win the tournament and qualify.
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Cmon, where is JohnyRecco!
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idra should be signed up now as well
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Just to clear it up, only the winner of the tournament qualifies? Or Top 4 of the qualifier qualify?
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On August 10 2012 02:48 BretZ wrote:
Just to clear it up, only the winner of the tournament qualifies? Or Top 4 of the qualifier qualify?
Nah there are 4 consecutive different tournaments, each winner gets a spot and 750$. Runner ups get 250$.
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I kinda wish there were more spots for NASL. So many awesome players wont make it through.
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I know, Idra, Machine and Daisy are signed up now, this is a sick line up.
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So it's only 2 rounds/day??
Any particular reason why it's so spread out? I doubt u will be casting Ro256, 128, 64, 32.
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On August 10 2012 04:02 Prplppleatr wrote:
So it's only 2 rounds/day??
Any particular reason why it's so spread out? I doubt u will be casting Ro256, 128, 64, 32.
Most likely due to time zone differences.
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TubbyTheFat to win the tournament with only PvP!
Incontrol is also signed up twice?
At least 72 players with Liquipedia pages are signed up. That's nutso
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On August 10 2012 04:05 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 04:02 Prplppleatr wrote:
So it's only 2 rounds/day??
Any particular reason why it's so spread out? I doubt u will be casting Ro256, 128, 64, 32. Most likely due to time zone differences.
I dunno bout that, will be 5PM PDT, 9am KST, and 2am CEST...eu kind of gets screwed, but maybe..obviously someone will get screwed no matter what.
Also, if we don't get 128 players (only 64, lets say), then do we not play at all today???
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On August 10 2012 04:46 Prplppleatr wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 04:05 CosmicSpiral wrote:On August 10 2012 04:02 Prplppleatr wrote:
So it's only 2 rounds/day??
Any particular reason why it's so spread out? I doubt u will be casting Ro256, 128, 64, 32. Most likely due to time zone differences. I dunno bout that, will be 5PM PDT, 9am KST, and 2am CEST...eu kind of gets screwed, but maybe..obviously someone will get screwed no matter what. Also, if we don't get 128 players (only 64, lets say), then do we not play at all today???
NASLtv @nasltv
180 @StarCraft players now registered for the #NASLS4 Qualifiers @BeyondGaming. Watch it live on NASL.tv at 6pm PDT tonight!
Don't think that will be a problem.
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On August 10 2012 04:02 Prplppleatr wrote:
So it's only 2 rounds/day??
Any particular reason why it's so spread out? I doubt u will be casting Ro256, 128, 64, 32.
We obviously won't cast every single game, but we want to cast as many of them as possible.
With this many players, and this many games, spreading it out over four days gives us tons of good games to cast, and more importantly, it allows us to easily fill our broadcast obligations to our sponsors.
On August 10 2012 04:46 Prplppleatr wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 04:05 CosmicSpiral wrote:On August 10 2012 04:02 Prplppleatr wrote:
So it's only 2 rounds/day??
Any particular reason why it's so spread out? I doubt u will be casting Ro256, 128, 64, 32. Most likely due to time zone differences. I dunno bout that, will be 5PM PDT, 9am KST, and 2am CEST...eu kind of gets screwed, but maybe..obviously someone will get screwed no matter what. Also, if we don't get 128 players (only 64, lets say), then do we not play at all today???
The Olympics revealed something awesome to me. Not everyone gets what they want, when they want it. Beach volleyball finals happened at midnight. Other events take place at random times too. We are an international community. We can't always do everything in prime time for everybody.
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On August 10 2012 04:46 Prplppleatr wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 04:05 CosmicSpiral wrote:On August 10 2012 04:02 Prplppleatr wrote:
So it's only 2 rounds/day??
Any particular reason why it's so spread out? I doubt u will be casting Ro256, 128, 64, 32. Most likely due to time zone differences. I dunno bout that, will be 5PM PDT, 9am KST, and 2am CEST...eu kind of gets screwed, but maybe..obviously someone will get screwed no matter what. Also, if we don't get 128 players (only 64, lets say), then do we not play at all today???
Well it's better for the disadvantaged than playing the entire tournament in one block. But it seems like that is not the case.
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Why is the third qualifier during MLG ?
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On August 10 2012 05:08 MrBitter wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 04:02 Prplppleatr wrote:
So it's only 2 rounds/day??
Any particular reason why it's so spread out? I doubt u will be casting Ro256, 128, 64, 32. We obviously won't cast every single game, but we want to cast as many of them as possible. With this many players, and this many games, spreading it out over four days gives us tons of good games to cast, and more importantly, it allows us to easily fill our broadcast obligations to our sponsors. Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 04:46 Prplppleatr wrote:On August 10 2012 04:05 CosmicSpiral wrote:On August 10 2012 04:02 Prplppleatr wrote:
So it's only 2 rounds/day??
Any particular reason why it's so spread out? I doubt u will be casting Ro256, 128, 64, 32. Most likely due to time zone differences. I dunno bout that, will be 5PM PDT, 9am KST, and 2am CEST...eu kind of gets screwed, but maybe..obviously someone will get screwed no matter what. Also, if we don't get 128 players (only 64, lets say), then do we not play at all today??? The Olympics revealed something awesome to me. Not everyone gets what they want, when they want it. Beach volleyball finals happened at midnight. Other events take place at random times too. We are an international community. We can't always do everything in prime time for everybody.
Ya, that's what I figured for the spread out times... was just wondering (not complaining).
Thanks for the answer. It only showed we had 46 players signed up when I checked but it must have been mistaken or I read it wrong..which is why I asked. Ya, apparently when it says 210/256 Spots it means only 46 are left, not 210. My mistake.
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Can I stream my own games ?
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If NASL isnt casting your game, you can stream until the ro32
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On August 10 2012 05:16 desRow wrote:
Why is the third qualifier during MLG ?
Why is it raining when I want to go outside? Sometimes you can't avoid stuff.
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After the relatively low turn out for the previous qualifier round, I am staggered at how many are trying for this one. It's awesome.
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Nothing can ever be determined by single elimination, bo3 should always be the standard.
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On August 10 2012 07:21 GunPaladin wrote:
Nothing can ever be determined by single elimination, bo3 should always be the standard.
I guess it's a good thing this is BO3.....?
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This isn't the Gauntlet GunPaladin.
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On August 10 2012 07:39 Prplppleatr wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 07:21 GunPaladin wrote:
Nothing can ever be determined by single elimination, bo3 should always be the standard. I guess it's a good thing this is BO3.....?
wiki says each qualifier is single elimination, for some reason in my head that translated as bo1. lol
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Ok so according to the OP, the games start at 8:00 EDT, but in the TL calendar its marking 9:00 EDT.
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The games start before the broadcast that could be the confusion.
If NASL are taking suggestions for games to broadcast, here are a few of mine from the first round. Slavik vs Inca,Spanishiwa vs solhu, Bischu vs Fraer.
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On August 10 2012 08:24 BathTubNZ wrote:
The games start before the broadcast that could be the confusion.
If NASL are taking suggestions for games to broadcast, here are a few of mine from the first round. Slavik vs Inca,Spanishiwa vs solhu, Bischu vs Fraer.
You forgot TOP vs. MMA (smilekr29/Mavengence) on your list ;o
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On August 10 2012 08:51 Elite_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 08:24 BathTubNZ wrote:
The games start before the broadcast that could be the confusion.
If NASL are taking suggestions for games to broadcast, here are a few of mine from the first round. Slavik vs Inca,Spanishiwa vs solhu, Bischu vs Fraer. You forgot TOP vs. MMA (smilekr29/Mavengence) on your list ;o
wow definitely this!
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Oh yeah well easy to miss with that handle. the second round is where most the interesting games will start I think.
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On August 10 2012 08:51 Elite_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 08:24 BathTubNZ wrote:
The games start before the broadcast that could be the confusion.
If NASL are taking suggestions for games to broadcast, here are a few of mine from the first round. Slavik vs Inca,Spanishiwa vs solhu, Bischu vs Fraer. You forgot TOP vs. MMA (smilekr29/Mavengence) on your list ;o
What? TOP vs MMA first round? Quite unfortunate that the two most accomplished players in these qualifiers meet up so early :\
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On August 10 2012 08:59 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 08:51 Elite_ wrote:On August 10 2012 08:24 BathTubNZ wrote:
The games start before the broadcast that could be the confusion.
If NASL are taking suggestions for games to broadcast, here are a few of mine from the first round. Slavik vs Inca,Spanishiwa vs solhu, Bischu vs Fraer. You forgot TOP vs. MMA (smilekr29/Mavengence) on your list ;o What? TOP vs MMA first round? Quite unfortunate that the two most accomplished players in these qualifiers meet up so early :\
Yeah... and the winner of those two faces Scarlett round 2...+ Show Spoiler +edit - TOP vs. Scarlett round 2... MMA lost 
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+ Show Spoiler +MMA lost huh? Well that's unfortunate. 3 more qualifiers to go then...
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we should probably spoiler results if they want to broadcast those games.
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On August 10 2012 09:44 BathTubNZ wrote:
we should probably spoiler results if they want to broadcast those games.
Yeah, good idea.
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That is a very generous description, Gretorp.
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Given that HuK made the Season 3 offline finals, his position in Season 4 is pretty safe.
Incontrol vs Tod first up!
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On August 10 2012 10:05 askmc70 wrote:
no huk?
Already qualified
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ah, how do people already know some some of the qualifier results?
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On August 10 2012 06:58 Xeris wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 05:16 desRow wrote:
Why is the third qualifier during MLG ? Why is it raining when I want to go outside? Sometimes you can't avoid stuff.
Well Xeris, its raining because warm air turns the water from rivers, lakes, and oceans into water vapor that rises into the air. That water vapor forms clouds, which contain small drops of water or ice crystals (depending on how high the cloud is and how cold it is).
As clouds rise higher and higher, the air gets colder and colder. When the water vapor in the cloud becomes too heavy, it falls back to the ground as rain or snow.
+ Show Spoiler +
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Probably stalking the player profiles.
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On August 10 2012 10:15 askmc70 wrote:
ah, how do people already know some some of the qualifier results?
bracket
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Yeah the bracket auto updates with the results.
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Could someone please fix the NASL fonts, the current name tags are ridiculously narrow.
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i wanna see bischu vs nony
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Yawn... Foreigner/mid game PvP most interesting matchup...
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On August 10 2012 10:28 BathTubNZ wrote:
Could someone please fix the NASL fonts, the current name tags are ridiculously narrow.
Fixed for next game. We're on it.
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On August 10 2012 10:35 NASL.tv wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 10:28 BathTubNZ wrote:
Could someone please fix the NASL fonts, the current name tags are ridiculously narrow. Fixed for next game. We're on it.
Cool, I thought it was a gag for the gauntlet, but I guess it' wasn't. Thank you.
Congrats to ToD advancing!
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Woo Inca vs Slavik, one of my requested games!
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Toalyforgot Inca was still playing.
a GSL finalist being teamless feel kind of wrong.
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On August 10 2012 10:41 Noocta wrote:
Toalyforgot Inca was still playing.
a GSL finalist being teamless feel kind of wrong.
same for TOP really
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I like what Inca did.
Zerg are used to defend stargate play with queen and spore because protoss player are very light on it.
A big 2 stargate play with 3 Voidray / 5 pheonix is garante to do big damage if the zerg greedly skip Hydra.
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Any brackets for ro256/128?
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Is it an idea to update the OP to state that BeyondGaming's brackets are ridiculously screwed up on Google Chrome? Apparantly people were playing the wrong opponents and such today.
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Oh wait, I thought Inca can only do DT.
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On August 10 2012 11:07 Wroshe wrote:
Is it an idea to update the OP to state that BeyondGaming's brackets are ridiculously screwed up on Google Chrome? Apparantly people were playing the wrong opponents and such today.
It's not just on chrome it's messed up
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sorry if this a dumb question but where can i find the brackets?
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On August 10 2012 10:51 Noocta wrote:
I like what Inca did.
Zerg are used to defend stargate play with queen and spore because protoss player are very light on it.
A big 2 stargate play with 3 Voidray / 5 pheonix is garante to do big damage if the zerg greedly skip Hydra.
It's not being greedy to skip hydras. Going hydra is a bad idea in general, getting corruptors or relying on infestors is something the zerg should be doing.
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scarlett is so smart holy shit
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i cant believe spending 50 gas made top send like 500 mins and 200 gas...
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Scarlett vs. TOP... these mindgames are epic!
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i hate how the casters are missing the complete genius of what top just did.. he ended up actually quite far ahead vs scarlett by not showing he was expanding.. but scarlett.. makes 2 banelings vs top? we don't hear the end of it..
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I thought oGs disbanded... why does Top have clan tags?
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On August 10 2012 12:20 starception wrote:
I thought oGs disbanded... why does Top have clan tags?
Because he can't/doesnt want to change it. Nothings making him, same reason why tod was FnaticRCToD despite not being on the team
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Wonder if top isn't playing as much lately or something as his money seems high for awhile now >< (this was when he was at 120 food and he had 1.4k minerals and not when he was close to max or maxxed).
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Hmm, with teamless players like TOP, Inca, Crank and ToD in the qualifiers, and NASL rule requiring players to be on a team to participate, I wonder if it would force players to find a team, any team, or would NASL try to amend their rules?
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On August 10 2012 12:19 VPCursed wrote:
i hate how the casters are missing the complete genius of what top just did.. he ended up actually quite far ahead vs scarlett by not showing he was expanding.. but scarlett.. makes 2 banelings vs top? we don't hear the end of it..
Cant expect much from these 2
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What a deliciously hectic game to watch. Want both Top and Scarlett in NASL!
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Does anyone have a counter for how many times Gretorp uses the word "actually"?
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Not sure what's the anwser to BL corruptor infestor when it's heavy corruptor.
Raven I guess. ( And I'm serious, I'm not the nydus/raven lolol guy )
Going very heavy marines with a few ghost and try to go before the BLs perhaps too.
Viking wont cut it, specially 0/0 against 3/3.
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On August 10 2012 12:32 calippo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 12:19 VPCursed wrote:
i hate how the casters are missing the complete genius of what top just did.. he ended up actually quite far ahead vs scarlett by not showing he was expanding.. but scarlett.. makes 2 banelings vs top? we don't hear the end of it.. Cant expect much from these 2
I agree. TOP was way ahead... 40-50 food up, a huge bank compared to nothing... and Gretorp kept saying that Scarlett was phenomenally ahead. She was only ahead because she got a few huge fungals off on the vikings and then things tumbled out of control for TOP... but they acted like Scarlett was ahead all game long -.-'
On August 10 2012 12:32 kiy0 wrote:
Does anyone have a counter for how many times Gretorp uses the word "actually"?
I think you should ask Vegeta...
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On August 10 2012 12:33 Noocta wrote:
Not sure what's the anwser to BL corruptor infestor when it's heavy corruptor.
Raven I guess. ( And I'm serious, I'm not the nydus/raven lolol guy )
Going very heavy marines with a few ghost and try to go before the BLs perhaps too.
Viking wont cut it, specially 0/0 against 3/3.
you just have to play bio/thor... you can't go that corrupter heavy.. terran should have caught on and switched
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i hope stephano and scarlett make a super ultimate baby zerg player.
gj scarlet
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On August 10 2012 12:35 VPCursed wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 12:33 Noocta wrote:
Not sure what's the anwser to BL corruptor infestor when it's heavy corruptor.
Raven I guess. ( And I'm serious, I'm not the nydus/raven lolol guy )
Going very heavy marines with a few ghost and try to go before the BLs perhaps too.
Viking wont cut it, specially 0/0 against 3/3. you just have to play bio/thor... you can't go that corrupter heavy.. terran should have caught on and switched
Thor might be good too yeah.
I think TOP play in the last 10min of the game wasn't really good. He seems unsure what to do even when 50 supply ahead.
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On August 10 2012 12:37 Noocta wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 12:35 VPCursed wrote:On August 10 2012 12:33 Noocta wrote:
Not sure what's the anwser to BL corruptor infestor when it's heavy corruptor.
Raven I guess. ( And I'm serious, I'm not the nydus/raven lolol guy )
Going very heavy marines with a few ghost and try to go before the BLs perhaps too.
Viking wont cut it, specially 0/0 against 3/3. you just have to play bio/thor... you can't go that corrupter heavy.. terran should have caught on and switched Thor might be good too yeah. I think TOP play in the last 10min of the game wasn't really good. He seems unsure what to do even when 50 supply ahead.
That's classic TOP. Hardcore macro, but nothing too special elsewhere. He's kind of like a Terran version of Ret. When you enter the late-game with a significant lead due to superior macro, you have a larger margin of error than your opponent and thus don't train your late-game as well since you can afford to play sub-optimally.
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I don't see how you can justify building 40+ vikings over the course of the game, never bother investing a single upgrade for them (against 3/3 corruptors), and expect to achieve anything.
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On August 10 2012 12:39 hayata2.0 wrote:
I don't see how you can justify building 40+ vikings over the course of the game, never bother investing a single upgrade for them (against 3/3 corruptors), and expect to achieve anything.
That's clearly a big mistake, no denial.
But even with 2/0 viking ( usually what player get when they're up on it ) it would not have work I think.
I always love Terran players in these spots. "Fuck it I lose the previous half hour long macro game, I'll just proxy 11/11 the fucker. "
No offence obviously.
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scarlett got punished for her late pool
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On August 10 2012 12:35 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 12:32 calippo wrote:On August 10 2012 12:19 VPCursed wrote:
i hate how the casters are missing the complete genius of what top just did.. he ended up actually quite far ahead vs scarlett by not showing he was expanding.. but scarlett.. makes 2 banelings vs top? we don't hear the end of it.. Cant expect much from these 2 I agree. TOP was way ahead... 40-50 food up, a huge bank compared to nothing... and Gretorp kept saying that Scarlett was phenomenally ahead. She was only ahead because she got a few huge fungals off on the vikings and then things tumbled out of control for TOP... but they acted like Scarlett was ahead all game long -.-' Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 12:32 kiy0 wrote:
Does anyone have a counter for how many times Gretorp uses the word "actually"? I think you should ask Vegeta...
We mentioned the mind games a lot, I hope you tuned into the whole broadcast.
she was really far ahead all game long. Saying that Top is ahead b/c of food is one of the silliest things ever. If that were the case just 1 base every single time and you'll have more food than your opponent.
If you ask pros, i guarantee 99% of them will say she was ahead all game long.
I'll stop using actually. Thank you for noting!
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On August 10 2012 12:19 VPCursed wrote:
i hate how the casters are missing the complete genius of what top just did.. he ended up actually quite far ahead vs scarlett by not showing he was expanding.. but scarlett.. makes 2 banelings vs top? we don't hear the end of it..
I don't mean to be argumentative but a Terran hiding the fact that he is expanding behind his wall is a pretty obvious move. I mean I realize he correctly gambled on having Scarlett overreact at the loss of some mining time(for floating the CC) but Terrans do this in my diamond scrub games and I wouldn't call any of us geniuses...
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On August 10 2012 12:46 Geos13 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 12:19 VPCursed wrote:
i hate how the casters are missing the complete genius of what top just did.. he ended up actually quite far ahead vs scarlett by not showing he was expanding.. but scarlett.. makes 2 banelings vs top? we don't hear the end of it.. I don't mean to be argumentative but a Terran hiding the fact that he is expanding behind his wall is a pretty obvious move. I mean I realize he correctly gambled on having Scarlett overreact at the loss of some mining time(for floating the CC) but Terrans do this in my diamond scrub games and I wouldn't call any of us geniuses...
uh... i rarely see it and im GM...scarlett was even in worker count throughout the entire game because of that fuck up on her part. Top just threw it away with poor macro.
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Reminds me of that nexus wall.
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I do not like this focus on fast siege tanks.
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On August 10 2012 12:49 jeeneeus wrote:
Reminds me of that nexus wall.
Except not nearly as good B)
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On August 10 2012 12:50 CosmicSpiral wrote:
I do not like this focus on fast siege tanks.
Me neither.
It's such a passive play. Not so good against zerg standart play which is to not punish the third and mostly not care about it.
Would be fine with Mehc behind it I think. You could try Hellion runby during this.
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On August 10 2012 12:47 VPCursed wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 12:46 Geos13 wrote:On August 10 2012 12:19 VPCursed wrote:
i hate how the casters are missing the complete genius of what top just did.. he ended up actually quite far ahead vs scarlett by not showing he was expanding.. but scarlett.. makes 2 banelings vs top? we don't hear the end of it.. I don't mean to be argumentative but a Terran hiding the fact that he is expanding behind his wall is a pretty obvious move. I mean I realize he correctly gambled on having Scarlett overreact at the loss of some mining time(for floating the CC) but Terrans do this in my diamond scrub games and I wouldn't call any of us geniuses... uh... i rarely see it and im GM...scarlett was even in worker count throughout the entire game because of that fuck up on her part. Top just threw it away with poor macro.
Really? I hate when I scout a Terran last on a four player map as it is always a coin flip as to whether they are expanding or going for an all in. Maybe it is one of those things that is considered bad by talented players so at high enough levels it can catch players by surprise as in this game. But yeah this happens pretty often in diamond. Seems like a pretty intuitive move given that CCs can float and Terran all ins scare the bejeezus out of me.
+ Show Spoiler +PS I always enjoy your posts and respect your insights!
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TOP would probably have won this fight 1 year ago, when creep was not here for sure. :p
+3 attack from zerg finish before +1 attack for terran
There's a SMAAAL problem when that happen.
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Oh. Are you kidding, TOP.
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Horrible play from TOP. Not even 1 attack at the 17' mark while he built his EB so early... Really...
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very very impressive from scarlet beating top, a GSL code s finalist. That is a super impressive feat.
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On August 10 2012 12:59 starception wrote:
very very impressive from scarlet beating top, a GSL code s finalist. That is a super impressive feat.
yeah, finalist from the year 1935
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gg Scarlett!
Desrow makes it to the round of 64! And Axslav! Suppy! Idra! Catz! Bischu! Zikomini! Major! Theognis!
So many people who I would love to see win and make it into season 4.
Who is FnaticRCDPT? Drawing a blank.
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On August 10 2012 13:14 NoGasfOu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 12:59 starception wrote:
very very impressive from scarlet beating top, a GSL code s finalist. That is a super impressive feat. yeah, finalist from the year 1935
Well to be fair, TOP has been to the Code S finals more recently than Nestea. Just sayin.
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On August 10 2012 13:15 BathTubNZ wrote:
gg Scarlett!
Desrow makes it to the round of 64! And Axslav! Suppy! Idra! Catz! Bischu! Zikomini! Major! Theognis!
So many people who I would love to see win and make it into season 4.
Who is FnaticRCDPT? Drawing a blank.
Departure?
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On August 10 2012 13:14 NoGasfOu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 12:59 starception wrote:
very very impressive from scarlet beating top, a GSL code s finalist. That is a super impressive feat. yeah, finalist from the year 1935
why are you taking away the win from scarlet? she won in those long games and lost to a cheese. she's a great player that beat a GSL finalist. saying the win versus top wasn't that impressive is like saying beating rain, rainbow or Fruitdealer isn't impressive.
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On August 10 2012 13:41 starception wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 13:14 NoGasfOu wrote:On August 10 2012 12:59 starception wrote:
very very impressive from scarlet beating top, a GSL code s finalist. That is a super impressive feat. yeah, finalist from the year 1935 why are you taking away the win from scarlet? she won in those long games and lost to a cheese. she's a great player that beat a GSL finalist. saying the win versus top wasn't that impressive is like saying beating rain, rainbow or Fruitdealer isn't impressive.
I dont think saying that helps her case!
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Yay! Slush, catz and major made it to RO64 :D
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Holy crap. DeathAngel/Ostojiy/VINES/IceCream for one spot in the round of 16. That is one hell of a rough bracket.
Edit: Ziktomini/Bischu/White/Aures is another tough one, but not as bad.
And the Terran bracket of death Major/EnDerr/binski/theognis
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On August 10 2012 13:41 starception wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 13:14 NoGasfOu wrote:On August 10 2012 12:59 starception wrote:
very very impressive from scarlet beating top, a GSL code s finalist. That is a super impressive feat. yeah, finalist from the year 1935 why are you taking away the win from scarlet? she won in those long games and lost to a cheese. she's a great player that beat a GSL finalist. saying the win versus top wasn't that impressive is like saying beating rain, rainbow or Fruitdealer isn't impressive.
really isn't that impressive...
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caster forgot 3rd option - fast banshees. good against zerg all in
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Day 2! hope people don't' forget and miss their games or anything.
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Hope its 2 other casters today!
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Wow scarlett talk about sick plays.
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You guys seeing this comment series between Axslav and NASLDuran on Axslav's stream? Talk about unprofessional...someone at NASL take a look at this
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On August 11 2012 09:23 Dexington wrote:Scarlett spoilers + Show Spoiler +Lost against SlayersDark
No -- she's going to play, just showed up a little late. Dark was very manner and is going to let her play
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On August 11 2012 09:16 AquaBear wrote:
You guys seeing this comment series between Axslav and NASLDuran on Axslav's stream? Talk about unprofessional...someone at NASL take a look at this
That's the head admin if I understand correctly.
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On August 11 2012 09:36 Xeris wrote:No -- she's going to play, just showed up a little late. Dark was very manner and is going to let her play
Ok, very good :D
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On August 11 2012 09:36 Xeris wrote:No -- she's going to play, just showed up a little late. Dark was very manner and is going to let her play
Something that effects all the later games:
@ToDsc2
was gonna play NASL match vs DarK but then he says that hes going to play vs Scarlett even tho its 40min late -_- love esports
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Everyone would rather that games get played if possible.
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On August 11 2012 10:00 BathTubNZ wrote:
Everyone would rather that games get played if possible.
I'm not going to force a forfeit on a player if both parties willingly want to play it. Dark agreed to play Scarlett, so they're playing now Simple as that.
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On August 11 2012 09:38 AlternativeEgo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 09:16 AquaBear wrote:
You guys seeing this comment series between Axslav and NASLDuran on Axslav's stream? Talk about unprofessional...someone at NASL take a look at this That's the head admin if I understand correctly.
That just makes it worse. Since when did respect for players go out the window? Without them, no one is going to show up to watch the tournament...
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I agree with Rotti, major could take this
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So the official bracket says binski lost to theognis, stream says he won. Also, where is QuanticIllusion? Don't see him anywhere.
Edit: nvm, the bracket Xeris posted makes things easier
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On August 11 2012 10:08 Xeris wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 10:00 BathTubNZ wrote:
Everyone would rather that games get played if possible. I'm not going to force a forfeit on a player if both parties willingly want to play it. Dark agreed to play Scarlett, so they're playing now Simple as that.
Their agreement doesn't really matter if ToD should decide to take the free win. And what if the guy that will play the winner of ToD vs Dark/Scarlett decides to take the free win, and so on? The games in a whole bracket branch could get wasted, no?
Its all good to get the games played, but everything relies on that no one decides to take that freebie. I'm getting tired so I'm possibly in the wrong tho. :p
Edit: Ah, it depends when the time is scheduled of course. Maybe it's not that that far ahead.
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On August 11 2012 10:18 AlternativeEgo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 10:08 Xeris wrote:On August 11 2012 10:00 BathTubNZ wrote:
Everyone would rather that games get played if possible. I'm not going to force a forfeit on a player if both parties willingly want to play it. Dark agreed to play Scarlett, so they're playing now Simple as that. Their agreement doesn't really matter if ToD should decide to take the free win. And what if the guy that will play the winner of ToD vs Dark/Scarlett decides to take the free win, and so on? The games in a whole bracket branch could get wasted, no? Its all good to get the games played, but everything relies on that no one decides to take that freebie. I'm getting tired so I'm possibly in the wrong tho. :p
I'm pretty sure only the ro64/32 were played today anyway so there isn't a line of people waiting. Its just Tod
EDIT: I could be wrong but onlythe first 2 rounds were played yesterday
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On August 11 2012 10:20 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 10:18 AlternativeEgo wrote:On August 11 2012 10:08 Xeris wrote:On August 11 2012 10:00 BathTubNZ wrote:
Everyone would rather that games get played if possible. I'm not going to force a forfeit on a player if both parties willingly want to play it. Dark agreed to play Scarlett, so they're playing now Simple as that. Their agreement doesn't really matter if ToD should decide to take the free win. And what if the guy that will play the winner of ToD vs Dark/Scarlett decides to take the free win, and so on? The games in a whole bracket branch could get wasted, no? Its all good to get the games played, but everything relies on that no one decides to take that freebie. I'm getting tired so I'm possibly in the wrong tho. :p I'm pretty sure only the ro64/32 were played today anyway so there isn't a line of people waiting. Its just Tod EDIT: I could be wrong but the only the first 2 rounds were played yesterday
Yeah I think I made it way too complicated. xD
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OMG Inca vs Idra? Amaaaaaaaaaaaaaazing
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I wish it was possible to ban people from chat channels in SC2 ;;
some really annoying guys in here spamming the crap out of it
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On August 11 2012 10:18 AlternativeEgo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 10:08 Xeris wrote:On August 11 2012 10:00 BathTubNZ wrote:
Everyone would rather that games get played if possible. I'm not going to force a forfeit on a player if both parties willingly want to play it. Dark agreed to play Scarlett, so they're playing now Simple as that. Their agreement doesn't really matter if ToD should decide to take the free win. And what if the guy that will play the winner of ToD vs Dark/Scarlett decides to take the free win, and so on? The games in a whole bracket branch could get wasted, no? Its all good to get the games played, but everything relies on that no one decides to take that freebie. I'm getting tired so I'm possibly in the wrong tho. :p Edit: Ah, it depends when the time is scheduled of course. Maybe it's not that that far ahead.
ro32 is scheduled 2 hours after round of 64, so technically it doesn't even start for 30 minutes anyway.
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Gonna go out on a limb and say they're casting Ziktomini and Bischu next, since that isn't updated on the Binary bracket but was on the BG bracket.
Edit: ahhhhhhh yeaaaaah
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Did something happen to Vines' computer?
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Did Rotti just say RootTod?
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On August 11 2012 10:39 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Did Rotti just say RootTod?
He just joined ROOT about 10 minutes ago it was announced.
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Bischu meatball power!
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Idra being Idra. Inca being Inca.
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Mmm.
If you do not prepare for DT's versus Inca...but Inca does not go DTs...
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IdrA falls ever just a bit short of victory, le sigh.
2000 minerals and 600 gas when he left at the end + greater spire completed. Think of what a 2000 minerals and 600 gas remax was going to do to Inca's 120 army after the initial engagement, followed by 8 brood lords, and you have the difference between IdrA and Stephano.
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hard to pick what he did wrong...bad macro + no larvae. I mean 2.5k banked with 600 gas he easily should have had a extra queen + hatch or just be injecting better.
also no way would 5 BLs be able to deal with that many blink stalkers. Also upgrades probably in effect there it was 1 carapace + 1 melee upgrade vs +3 weps protoss.
if idra remax'd with his money bank just on roachs/lings it probably would have been fine maybe, but oh well.
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On August 11 2012 11:15 Azarkon wrote:
IdrA falls ever just a bit short of victory, le sigh.
2000 minerals and 600 gas when he left at the end + greater spire completed. Think of what a 2000 minerals and 600 gas remax was going to do to Inca's 120 army after the initial engagement, and you have Stephano.
It would have been a pretty resounding stomp...
Still, liking this play from Idra a lot more than what we saw perhaps half a year ago. Just need to make small adjustments rather than looking lost as all hell.
Furthermore, I am wondering whether that four Zealot drop ended up doing any damage in his main. They were kind of fighting Spines in the one shot we got of them, but they could definitely have done damage had they been micro'ed without any real opposition.
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What was Idra's bank looking like before that attack started? I think if those corruptors were BLs for that fight, it would have been a stomp. And he definitely had the time to get them out (maybe he would have to stall a few seconds at most), but I didn't catch what his bank was looking like. All I saw was him randomly maxed after seemingly keeping open supply for BLs, which is definitely a big mistake if he had the money for the BLs.
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IdrA holds and wins this game.
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Haha Idra. ? is his form of
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Looks like they'll be casting Caliber vs Sleep after Tod/Scarlett, unless they're playing the longest series of all time.
Edit: I reverted that edit on Liquipedia that spoiled the games that were going to be cast
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Ah, and there's the Hotel California.
It's been too long since I've watched a Bitterdam cast.
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Come on Idra, you can't lose this.
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IdrA going the Symbol ZvP, wondering how well he can utilize this build.
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Ah, the worst engagement of all time, that's how he can lose this.
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" This is fucking retarded "
Oh idra =/
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Well, now I know to get storm a TON earlier
Also:
I thought Inca had quit :/
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hahhhahhaa
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7 bases and no broodlords.
This is stupid indeed.
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What the hell? Idra's one of my favorite players but good lord, what the hell just happened?
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*Sigh*, IdrA really needs to work on choosing better engagements, he had that game in the bag. Maybe it was his inexperience with the Symbol ZvP, but he still had control of that game for most of the time.
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well that was stupid...he left at a terrible time, but i thought idra was doing better with leaving early?
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If he just fucking flanked from both sides, Inca would have needed twice as many storms (which he didn't have).
Holy fuck that was frustrating to watch.
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That's it, screw all my bases and the time that's more than enough for me to remax, /ragequit
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Oh this my Idra xD...
Ps: Never i think he can lose this Game...
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how the fuck can you be that bad. like what....im speechless
just attack from 2 sides like every zerg would do it and its easy win...i dont get it
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IdrA threw that game away. He was looking really good until that first fight at the 4th.
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On August 11 2012 11:56 PhoenixVoid wrote:
*Sigh*, IdrA really needs to work on choosing better engagements, he had that game in the bag. Maybe it was his inexperience with the Symbol ZvP, but he still had control of that game for most of the time.
Symbol ZvP (which was done way before Symbol started doing it) requires good positioning and micro. And I will digress from there...
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I also realised that better FPS would help me a lot XD
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I must say IdrA still has drawing power, the stream went from 3K viewers to 8K just during that match.
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Idra really needs to innovate. Making a ton of crap and 1Aing hasn't worked since GSL 1 when Fruitdealer won.
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Idra had that in the bag if he didn't take that engagement at Inca's fourth.
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its like idra is trying to make protoss look op throwing away his units and making a horrible unit comp
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He attacked in the worst place possible. All his banelings and ultras down the same choke.
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On August 11 2012 11:57 Terranlover wrote:
how the fuck can you be that bad. like what....im speechless
just attack from 2 sides like every zerg would do it and its easy win...i dont get it
I'm just as confused as you are.
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On August 11 2012 11:56 garlicface wrote:
If he just fucking flanked from both sides, Inca would have needed twice as many storms (which he didn't have).
Holy fuck that was frustrating to watch.
I used to care about IdrA. I've been disappointed that way so much times I don't anymore. I think it's better for everyone.
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On August 11 2012 11:57 compucomp wrote:
I must say IdrA still has drawing power, the stream went from 3K viewers to 8K just during that match.
ppl probably checked brackets and saw him lose and wanted to see some rage
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On August 11 2012 11:57 Dexington wrote:
Idra had that in the bag if he didn't take that engagement at Inca's fourth.
Engaging at the fourth was fine. Attacking from a single choke was the problem.
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Idra losing and raging as usual.
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It's like Idra purposefully chooses horrendous engagements to prove a point or something. I guess that point is that he's not very good right now.
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On August 11 2012 11:58 garlicface wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 11:57 Dexington wrote:
Idra had that in the bag if he didn't take that engagement at Inca's fourth. Engaging at the fourth was fine. Attacking from a single choke was the problem.
Yes, that's what I mean by "that engagement"
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I like the approach NASL took with discussing the recent stories about gaming in the media.
"check it out, we're being talked about big organizations. tl;dr go read and judge the content for yourselves"
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United Kingdom3249 Posts
Really hope Crank gets picked up by a good team.
Must think happy thoughts after that game. Not even about whether I care for Idra or not, that was just super painful.
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Caliber and Sleep have been playing for hours lol
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Anyone have the bracket link?
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As a zerg player, I kinda feel bad for Idra and I can certainly relate to his frustration. But he should never have attacked into mothership, colossus, templars and cannons. What the hell was he thinking? That can't be done.
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On August 11 2012 11:57 GinDo wrote:
Idra really needs to innovate. Making a ton of crap and 1Aing hasn't worked since GSL 1 when Fruitdealer won.
you really need to shut up.
he is using symbol zvp which is fairly new. making a tonnes of units in a good unit composition is what he did, he just messed up the engagement
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United States15275 Posts
Symbol ZvP is not new, people need to shut up about it. Just because someone popularizes a strategy in a high-profile match does not mean he invented it.
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Not trying to stir anything up.....bt they are referring to scarlett as he/him.....Im prety sure she identifies as female...somebody should talk to bitterdam about that
edit: Maybe I can't here properly....or they fixd it
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On August 11 2012 12:13 SMD wrote:
Not trying to stir anything up.....bt they are referring to scarlett as he/him.....Im prety sure she identifies as female...somebody should talk to bitterdam about that
edit: Maybe I can't here properly....or they fixd it
yep, was gonna post but they caught it i think and fixed
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United Kingdom3249 Posts
That is an insane precision on starting Infestors in conjunction with Pathogen Glands. First seven Infestors popping out pretty much two seconds after the upgrade had finished.
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It's obviously a slip up from being used to saying he/him in every other game they've casted.
On August 11 2012 12:15 Porcelina wrote:
That is an insane precision on starting Infestors in conjunction with Pathogen Glands. First seven Infestors popping out pretty much two seconds after the upgrade had finished.
That's very standard...
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[QUOTE]On August 11 2012 12:16 Dexington wrote:
It's obviously a slip up from being used to saying he/him in every other game they've casted.
True, that makes more sense, I wasn't implying anything other than an honest mistake
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On August 11 2012 12:16 Dexington wrote:
It's obviously a slip up from being used to saying he/him in every other game they've casted.
Quite. Also it must pretty much be naturalized within every single caster to refer to any player as he/him. I would be super surprised if they meant any disrespect whatsoever.
Also, yeah I know Dexington re: Infestors/Pathogen Glands. Not saying it is new or anything, just really nice to see such a crisp timing. Perhaps I have been watching too many sloppy games recently, but usually the gap is a lot bigger.
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Another insanely long ZvP incoming on Metropolis....
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On August 11 2012 12:18 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Another insanely long ZvP incoming on Metropolis....
Hard to get a good engagement without getting zonned x.x
ugh dt x.x
yay! gG!
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Canada13389 Posts
Broodlord armies are so so good. The transition into air based armies to help fight that is sooo hard to do.
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hm why does protoss not start to build mass voidrays after he came back from the first fight?
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United Kingdom3249 Posts
I wonder what would happen if somehow we could engineer brackets to feature Tod versus Idra.
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For scarlett to make the finals, she beat slayers dark, now she has to beat tod, then daisy, then major,then likely Crank.
Then in the finals.....stc,inca,golden or sleep.
thats a really tough road
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Second game a row with a bunch of whine instead of GG. Idra and ToD should play each other next and see who wines more when he loses
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On August 11 2012 12:22 Terranlover wrote:
hm why does protoss not start to build mass voidrays after he came back from the first fight?
Fungal growth.
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On August 11 2012 12:22 Terranlover wrote:
hm why does protoss not start to build mass voidrays after he came back from the first fight?
Corruptors and Fungal both own VR's in that situation.
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I like Bitterdam stories a stupid amount.
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hm im sure there could be a strat where toss goes for early ship upgrades and build void rays in that situation and do well.
colossus just got sniped and fungaled aswell without doing aynthing so why not try it
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Looks like a Korean will for sure make it to the finals for the top half, but the non-Koreans have a great shot in the bottom half. Major, Scarlett, Illusion or Bischu are all top notch players.
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On August 11 2012 12:29 Terranlover wrote:
hm im sure there could be a strat where toss goes for early ship upgrades and build void rays in that situation and do well.
colossus just got sniped and fungaled aswell without doing aynthing so why not try it
It would be tough because, like muta's, vr's clump and stack, they are also glass cannons. with the amount of fungals the zerg army has, they can usually take out those vr's very quick.
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On August 11 2012 12:29 Terranlover wrote:
hm im sure there could be a strat where toss goes for early ship upgrades and build void rays in that situation and do well.
colossus just got sniped and fungaled aswell without doing aynthing so why not try it
There was. It was an all-in.
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On August 11 2012 12:30 Dexington wrote:
Looks like a Korean will for sure make it to the finals for the top half, but the non-Koreans have a great shot in the bottom half. Major, Scarlett, Illusion or Bischu are all top notch players.
Major is clearly the best of those four, Scarlett and Illusion may be in the same tier (with illusion being better) and Bischu is a few levels below the others.
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On August 11 2012 12:32 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 12:29 Terranlover wrote:
hm im sure there could be a strat where toss goes for early ship upgrades and build void rays in that situation and do well.
colossus just got sniped and fungaled aswell without doing aynthing so why not try it There was. It was an all-in.
so how do you beat zerg then? (2 baseallin doesnt count)
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On August 11 2012 12:36 Terranlover wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 12:32 CosmicSpiral wrote:On August 11 2012 12:29 Terranlover wrote:
hm im sure there could be a strat where toss goes for early ship upgrades and build void rays in that situation and do well.
colossus just got sniped and fungaled aswell without doing aynthing so why not try it There was. It was an all-in. so how do you beat zerg then? (2 baseallin doesnt count)
...you outplay them.
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On August 11 2012 12:36 Terranlover wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 12:32 CosmicSpiral wrote:On August 11 2012 12:29 Terranlover wrote:
hm im sure there could be a strat where toss goes for early ship upgrades and build void rays in that situation and do well.
colossus just got sniped and fungaled aswell without doing aynthing so why not try it There was. It was an all-in. so how do you beat zerg then? (2 baseallin doesnt count)
2 base allin, 3 base attack before broodlords, if zerg gets broodlords u gotta get mothership/archons/templers...
theres points in the game where either side has a big advantage when zerg first gets broodlords they usually ahve a huge advantage
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Tell Bitter to refresh -_-
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Looks like Caliber 2-0 Sleep o.O?
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On August 11 2012 12:13 SMD wrote:
Not trying to stir anything up.....bt they are referring to scarlett as he/him.....Im prety sure she identifies as female...somebody should talk to bitterdam about that
edit: Maybe I can't here properly....or they fixd it
I dunno why people keep saying this, we _NEVER_ say anything else than she or her, yet every single time we cast a game of scarlett people say this, it's like you guys are so eager to create drama oO watch the VOD and give me 1 example of where we said he or him, if anything it ever happens might be in the heat of the battle since we cast guys play 99% of the time but stop trying to create something that isn't there -_-, besides that thanks everyone for watching, hope you enjoyed it
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On August 11 2012 12:43 RotterdaM wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 12:13 SMD wrote:
Not trying to stir anything up.....bt they are referring to scarlett as he/him.....Im prety sure she identifies as female...somebody should talk to bitterdam about that
edit: Maybe I can't here properly....or they fixd it I dunno why people keep saying this, we _NEVER_ say anything else than she or her, yet every single time we cast a game of scarlett people say this, it's like you guys are so eager to create drama oO watch the VOD and give me 1 example of where we said he or him, if anything it ever happens might be in the heat of the battle since we cast guys play 99% of the time but stop trying to create something that isn't there -_-, besides that thanks everyone for watching, hope you enjoyed it
I remember you said he like once or twice, but I really hate when people can't get over it as a mistake. Whenever Scarlett plays people jump through hoops to "defend" her against things that don't even attack her.
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Looks like NASL's bracket result is a mystery as always.
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On August 11 2012 12:43 RotterdaM wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 12:13 SMD wrote:
Not trying to stir anything up.....bt they are referring to scarlett as he/him.....Im prety sure she identifies as female...somebody should talk to bitterdam about that
edit: Maybe I can't here properly....or they fixd it I dunno why people keep saying this, we _NEVER_ say anything else than she or her, yet every single time we cast a game of scarlett people say this, it's like you guys are so eager to create drama oO watch the VOD and give me 1 example of where we said he or him, if anything it ever happens might be in the heat of the battle since we cast guys play 99% of the time but stop trying to create something that isn't there -_-, besides that thanks everyone for watching, hope you enjoyed it
Didn't mean to jump on you or anything, Was just giving feedback as thats what i thought i heard, I wasn't saying anything other then it being an honest mistake, I think I just choose my words wrong. I thoroughly enjoyed the qualifiers tonight, and very much enjoyed your RooTod stories
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Oki ;p sry in that case too, didn't wanna jump into heavy defend mode or anything but we've got a producer sitting in the studio who will jump up screaming if we would say he or his like 3/4/5 times as its obvious it ain't right, as I said before it might happen once or twice because we are so used to casting guys play vs each other but we'd never do that on purpose, yet the last 3 times I casted scarlett games I've read this every time while for my feeling we never do that, anyways all good, glad you enjoyed the show, can't wait to see who makes it in the end ^_^
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On August 11 2012 13:05 RotterdaM wrote:
Oki ;p sry in that case too, didn't wanna jump into heavy defend mode or anything but we've got a producer sitting in the studio who will jump up screaming if we would say he or his like 3/4/5 times as its obvious it ain't right, as I said before it might happen once or twice because we are so used to casting guys play vs each other but we'd never do that on purpose, yet the last 3 times I casted scarlett games I've read this every time while for my feeling we never do that, anyways all good, glad you enjoyed the show, can't wait to see who makes it in the end ^_^
dat Rotti rage.
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On August 11 2012 12:43 RotterdaM wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 12:13 SMD wrote:
Not trying to stir anything up.....bt they are referring to scarlett as he/him.....Im prety sure she identifies as female...somebody should talk to bitterdam about that
edit: Maybe I can't here properly....or they fixd it I dunno why people keep saying this, we _NEVER_ say anything else than she or her, yet every single time we cast a game of scarlett people say this, it's like you guys are so eager to create drama oO watch the VOD and give me 1 example of where we said he or him, if anything it ever happens might be in the heat of the battle since we cast guys play 99% of the time but stop trying to create something that isn't there -_-, besides that thanks everyone for watching, hope you enjoyed it
Your cast was lovely as always <3
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It's a pity Major and Scarlett are on the same side of the bracket.
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On August 11 2012 12:43 Dexington wrote:
Looks like Caliber 2-0 Sleep o.O?
We postponed it. I lost 1-2.
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Damn Illusion and Crank are on the same side Hoping for Illusion but I want to see Crank go far.
Gonna say Golden Illusion in the finals, Illusion over Golden.
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On August 11 2012 12:50 NoGasfOu wrote:
Looks like NASL's bracket result is a mystery as always.
You're wrong, the bracket is well updated up to the point it has been played.
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By the way, why did you guys decide to schedule a qualifier during MLG Raleigh? :o
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On August 12 2012 08:13 Wroshe wrote:
By the way, why did you guys decide to schedule a qualifier during MLG Raleigh? :o
4 weeks in august ... season 4 starts in september, can't really avoid it ...
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On August 12 2012 08:19 Xeris wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2012 08:13 Wroshe wrote:
By the way, why did you guys decide to schedule a qualifier during MLG Raleigh? :o 4 weeks in august ... season 4 starts in september, can't really avoid it ...
I think it would have been possible to start a week earlier. That gives you a clash with ASUS ROG but as your main demographic appears to be North Americans then that clash would have been less of an issue.
The best solution would be to just run qualifiers on weekdays though, then you avoid the issue of conflicting with weekend events altogether.
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What happened to MMA? :O It's inconceivable to me to think that ANYONE who's participating could've taken him out.
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On August 11 2012 13:05 RotterdaM wrote:
Oki ;p sry in that case too, didn't wanna jump into heavy defend mode or anything but we've got a producer sitting in the studio who will jump up screaming if we would say he or his like 3/4/5 times as its obvious it ain't right, as I said before it might happen once or twice because we are so used to casting guys play vs each other but we'd never do that on purpose, yet the last 3 times I casted scarlett games I've read this every time while for my feeling we never do that, anyways all good, glad you enjoyed the show, can't wait to see who makes it in the end ^_^
Rotterdam turns scarlet with raaaaage
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On August 12 2012 08:46 SAFenix wrote:
What happened to MMA? :O It's inconceivable to me to think that ANYONE who's participating could've taken him out.
noshow
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United States15275 Posts
Inca better at PvZ than I remembered.
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damn did half the players forget today or something?
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On August 12 2012 12:59 BathTubNZ wrote:
damn did half the players forget today or something?
Its really sad that three favorites (Illusion, Major, Scarlett) for the whole thing either got walked over or forfeited. But such is life and there's always another qualifier for one of them to win
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On August 12 2012 08:46 SAFenix wrote:
What happened to MMA? :O It's inconceivable to me to think that ANYONE who's participating could've taken him out.
uh, mma is not unbeatable
well, time for me to cheer for inca!
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TT I'm only semi-finalist who hasn't been streamed yet. Ah well, 1 zerg 3 protoss-- Hwfighting~!
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How do you get 4 walkovers in 8 ro16 games?
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Can someone post(or pm) the ro16 and ro8 results (Or just ro8, ro16 would be self explaining then)? I klicked the bracket link from page 9 and it did´nt show them.
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On August 12 2012 15:43 Glon wrote:
TT I'm only semi-finalist who hasn't been streamed yet. Ah well, 1 zerg 3 protoss-- Hwfighting~!
You'll show them by winning and making them stream you for nine weeks!
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Oh, pretty stupid of me, not to look at LP. Thank you.
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What happened to Scarlett?
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Apparently she was unwell.
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4 players left, only 1 korean, i think that is a huge success for Glon, Minigun and buschu
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On August 13 2012 04:51 SMD wrote:
4 players left, only 1 korean, i think that is a huge success for Glon, Minigun and buschu
Inca won't be around in the tournament much longer.... xD
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On August 13 2012 05:40 Glon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2012 04:51 SMD wrote:
4 players left, only 1 korean, i think that is a huge success for Glon, Minigun and buschu Inca won't be around in the tournament much longer.... xD
Love the confidence man, will be cheering for ya!
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Does anyone know who knocked Scarlett out? ( RO64 I guess) or a link to RO64 braket?
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On August 13 2012 06:04 Psilos9 wrote:
Does anyone know who knocked Scarlett out? ( RO64 I guess) or a link to RO64 braket?
She defaulted to Daisy.
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On August 13 2012 06:04 Psilos9 wrote:
Does anyone know who knocked Scarlett out? ( RO64 I guess) or a link to RO64 braket?
She beat TOP in Ro64 and ToD in Ro32, then forfeited to Daisy in Ro16:
@AcerScarlett:
Sorry have really bad headache, ffing @NASLtv qualifier T_T gl @ROOTMajOr
Funnily enough, Major forfeited vs Minigun too.
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On August 13 2012 05:40 Glon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2012 04:51 SMD wrote:
4 players left, only 1 korean, i think that is a huge success for Glon, Minigun and buschu Inca won't be around in the tournament much longer.... xD
Watch out for DTs! I repeat, this guy will use DTs against you. Build spores and overseers preemptively.
Don't think that he is using his reputation to mind-game you into needlessly getting detection. He is double mind-gaming you! Make detection!
Seriously, good luck though :p
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I would think the key to inca is just lots of scouting, he's either using DT's or Voidrays. either way spores early would help.
Lots of 'new' people in the chat today.
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Quick, someone get wolf, we need someone to commentate his hair!
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On August 13 2012 10:05 stuchiu wrote:
Quick, someone get wolf, we need someone to commentate his hair!
I'm unsure how I feel about not being the only one to think about wolf when I saw Rotti
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War of the worlds incoming. :S
*Bischuuu!!! :D Sick hair, Rotti ^^
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when did select switch to protoss?
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ahh that cheeky ff from minigun.
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On August 13 2012 10:40 starception wrote:
when did select switch to protoss?
Bischu playing on Selects NA account
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Minigun and bischu showing us why PvP is pure luck. Bischu had to gamble and Minigun had to scout in order to know its Phoenix.
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On August 13 2012 10:55 starception wrote:
Minigun and bischu showing us why PvP is pure luck. Bischu had to gamble and Minigun had to scout in order to know its Phoenix.
You're right, skill has nothing to do with PvP. I think I'll go pro right now in that case.
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Fuck yeah, Bischu!!! What an insane fight! :D
*down 30 supply total (15 workers) when pushing up and still managed to take it. What a champ.
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That game was insanely good. Actually that whole series was really cool to watch. Minigun and Bischu showing us why PvP can be a great, skill intensive matchup.
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Who is the talking chicken casting with Mr. Bitter?
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On August 13 2012 11:01 redc wrote:
Who is the talking chicken casting with Mr. Bitter?
Wolf's ideal caster.
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On August 13 2012 10:05 Laryleprakon wrote:
Rotti's hair!!!! lol
Makes sure all the girls look at his direction.
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Come on inca I want a weekly dose of DT rushes next NASL.
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that was really impressive
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On August 13 2012 10:57 Dexington wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2012 10:55 starception wrote:
Minigun and bischu showing us why PvP is pure luck. Bischu had to gamble and Minigun had to scout in order to know its Phoenix. You're right, skill has nothing to do with PvP. I think I'll go pro right now in that case.
He's a protoss trying to pull a reverse oz and claim PvP is all luck to boost his PvP win rate.
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did oGs remake their team? Rotterdam just said oGs.Inca
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On August 13 2012 11:25 starception wrote:
did oGs remake their team? Rotterdam just said oGs.Inca
It's the account Inca is currently using.
Apparently we are going to get a Lauren cameo on stream today?....
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Just when I thought Inca got better at PvZ, I am proven wrong.
EDIT: I'm wrong. He's just being lazy. :/
EDIT 2: Wrong again. He is this bad.
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Inca must be lagging, because both games have been brutal. >_>
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On August 13 2012 11:27 BathTubNZ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2012 11:25 starception wrote:
did oGs remake their team? Rotterdam just said oGs.Inca It's the account Inca is currently using. Apparently we are going to get a Lauren cameo on stream today?....
She got a body painting of Nova and they're showing it live today apparently. It's super hot.
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On August 13 2012 11:29 Dexington wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2012 11:27 BathTubNZ wrote:On August 13 2012 11:25 starception wrote:
did oGs remake their team? Rotterdam just said oGs.Inca It's the account Inca is currently using. Apparently we are going to get a Lauren cameo on stream today?.... She got a body painting of Nova and they're showing it live today apparently. It's super hot.
That is the only reason I am here. For cereal.
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it's not nerves when you get completely outplayed..just like he outplayed inca game 1
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Yeah, so all the anti-female bullshit is not cool, NASL.
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Floating 2000/2000. Good times.
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Inca only lose solely because of cross server lag. had they play from the same country, inca would have won 2-0 ezpz.
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On August 13 2012 11:57 starception wrote:
Inca only lose solely because of cross server lag. had they play from the same country, inca would have won 2-0 ezpz.
You've said some funny things in this thread.
On August 13 2012 11:47 InvictusRage wrote:
Yeah, so all the anti-female bullshit is not cool, NASL.
What the hell are you talking about?
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On August 13 2012 11:57 starception wrote:
Inca only lose solely because of cross server lag. had they play from the same country, inca would have won 2-0 ezpz.
Oh dear, you seem upset.
Cool to see Glon make it to the finals, congrats.
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On August 13 2012 11:50 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Floating 2000/2000. Good times.
he was maxed lol
and i honestly dont see how inca could have managed that max fight at glons 4th any better, all but 4 broods were in that vortex, and infestor/brood still rolled it
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On August 13 2012 11:59 ohampatu wrote:he was maxed lol and i honestly dont see how inca could have managed that max fight at glons 4th any better, all but 4 broods were in that vortex, and infestor/brood still rolled it
He was not maxed and he should've been at least below 500 gas before he was maxed. He was floating 1000/1000 before he even hit 170 supply.
He had templar to feedback the infestors and he didn't use them.
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On August 13 2012 11:58 Dexington wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2012 11:47 InvictusRage wrote:
Yeah, so all the anti-female bullshit is not cool, NASL. What the hell are you talking about?
In the context of discussing protoss females, Bitter said something like "What would you do with a woman without a mouth?" pretty clearly in context implying that oral sex is the only purpose women serve. Rotterdam responded by saying that a woman without a mouth would be awesome, that relationships would be so much easier then, implying (if not directly saying) that the communication of women is a contemptible thing that needs to be minimized as much as possible.
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On August 13 2012 12:08 InvictusRage wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2012 11:58 Dexington wrote:On August 13 2012 11:47 InvictusRage wrote:
Yeah, so all the anti-female bullshit is not cool, NASL. What the hell are you talking about? In the context of discussing protoss females, Bitter said something like "What would you do with a woman without a mouth?" pretty clearly in context implying that oral sex is the only purpose women serve. Rotterdam responded by saying that a woman without a mouth would be awesome, that relationships would be so much easier then, implying (if not directly saying) that the communication of women is a contemptible thing that needs to be minimized as much as possible.
Oh come on, get a thicker skin, can't take a joke?
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On August 13 2012 12:08 InvictusRage wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2012 11:58 Dexington wrote:On August 13 2012 11:47 InvictusRage wrote:
Yeah, so all the anti-female bullshit is not cool, NASL. What the hell are you talking about? In the context of discussing protoss females, Bitter said something like "What would you do with a woman without a mouth?" pretty clearly in context implying that oral sex is the only purpose women serve. Rotterdam responded by saying that a woman without a mouth would be awesome, that relationships would be so much easier then, implying (if not directly saying) that the communication of women is a contemptible thing that needs to be minimized as much as possible.
It's a joke and should be treated only as a joke. Our society is way too uptight now.
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On August 13 2012 12:08 InvictusRage wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2012 11:58 Dexington wrote:On August 13 2012 11:47 InvictusRage wrote:
Yeah, so all the anti-female bullshit is not cool, NASL. What the hell are you talking about? In the context of discussing protoss females, Bitter said something like "What would you do with a woman without a mouth?" pretty clearly in context implying that oral sex is the only purpose women serve. Rotterdam responded by saying that a woman without a mouth would be awesome, that relationships would be so much easier then, implying (if not directly saying) that the communication of women is a contemptible thing that needs to be minimized as much as possible.
Well everyone knows that Protoss girlfriends are superior to Terran ones, and certainly superior to Zerg girlfriends (ouch).
The immortality thing also means that you never have to worry about your girl getting old.
And the sex...priceless
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On August 13 2012 12:08 InvictusRage wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2012 11:58 Dexington wrote:On August 13 2012 11:47 InvictusRage wrote:
Yeah, so all the anti-female bullshit is not cool, NASL. What the hell are you talking about? In the context of discussing protoss females, Bitter said something like "What would you do with a woman without a mouth?" pretty clearly in context implying that oral sex is the only purpose women serve. Rotterdam responded by saying that a woman without a mouth would be awesome, that relationships would be so much easier then, implying (if not directly saying) that the communication of women is a contemptible thing that needs to be minimized as much as possible.
I doubt that either of them are really misogynists and they were truly speaking in jest(if I recall correctly they both have girlfriends.). They tend to have bro moments where they speak a little crassly in which is very inappropriate on stream, I too was little shocked to hear them go off like that. I wouldn't freak out about it but they probably need a tap on the shoulder and a reminder to keep it a little more respectful.
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On August 13 2012 12:11 compucomp wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2012 12:08 InvictusRage wrote:On August 13 2012 11:58 Dexington wrote:On August 13 2012 11:47 InvictusRage wrote:
Yeah, so all the anti-female bullshit is not cool, NASL. What the hell are you talking about? In the context of discussing protoss females, Bitter said something like "What would you do with a woman without a mouth?" pretty clearly in context implying that oral sex is the only purpose women serve. Rotterdam responded by saying that a woman without a mouth would be awesome, that relationships would be so much easier then, implying (if not directly saying) that the communication of women is a contemptible thing that needs to be minimized as much as possible. Oh come on, get a thicker skin, can't take a joke?
Seriously? This is so pathetic I actually can't tell if you're joking. Putting entirely aside the serious problems the gaming scene has with gender, jokes about that stuff can be perfectly fine in complicated contexts where everyone knows everybody really well and people's actual views are beyond question, but I don't know these guys personally, and plenty of people watching know them even less than I do. Outside of those contexts, those kind of jokes are evidence of serious character defects.
This isn't a point about professionalism or whatever. I don't particularly care whether they're professional. I do kind of care that they're not terrible people.
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On August 13 2012 12:19 InvictusRage wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2012 12:11 compucomp wrote:On August 13 2012 12:08 InvictusRage wrote:On August 13 2012 11:58 Dexington wrote:On August 13 2012 11:47 InvictusRage wrote:
Yeah, so all the anti-female bullshit is not cool, NASL. What the hell are you talking about? In the context of discussing protoss females, Bitter said something like "What would you do with a woman without a mouth?" pretty clearly in context implying that oral sex is the only purpose women serve. Rotterdam responded by saying that a woman without a mouth would be awesome, that relationships would be so much easier then, implying (if not directly saying) that the communication of women is a contemptible thing that needs to be minimized as much as possible. Oh come on, get a thicker skin, can't take a joke? Seriously? This is so pathetic I actually can't tell if you're joking. Putting entirely aside the serious problems the gaming scene has with gender, jokes about that stuff can be perfectly fine in complicated contexts where everyone knows everybody really well and people's actual views are beyond question, but I don't know these guys personally, and plenty of people watching know them even less than I do. Outside of those contexts, those kind of jokes are evidence of serious character defects. This isn't a point about professionalism or whatever. I don't particularly care whether they're professional. I do kind of care that they're not terrible people.
Haha, apparently you can't take a joke, and you really do need to get thicker skin. You're making a mountain out of a molehill ridiculously.
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On August 13 2012 12:19 Ziggitz wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2012 12:08 InvictusRage wrote:On August 13 2012 11:58 Dexington wrote:On August 13 2012 11:47 InvictusRage wrote:
Yeah, so all the anti-female bullshit is not cool, NASL. What the hell are you talking about? In the context of discussing protoss females, Bitter said something like "What would you do with a woman without a mouth?" pretty clearly in context implying that oral sex is the only purpose women serve. Rotterdam responded by saying that a woman without a mouth would be awesome, that relationships would be so much easier then, implying (if not directly saying) that the communication of women is a contemptible thing that needs to be minimized as much as possible. I doubt that either of them are really misogynists and they were truly speaking in jest(if I recall correctly they both have girlfriends.). They tend to have bro moments where they speak a little crassly in which is very inappropriate on stream, I too was little shocked to hear them go off like that. I wouldn't freak out about it but they probably need a tap on the shoulder and a reminder to keep it a little more respectful.
That would be great. I hope that's true. I don't think I have particularly good evidence that it's true. People with girlfriends can be misogynists too. What people say in unguarded moments tends to shed light on their actual views, regardless of what they say when they are paying attention.
But I've said my piece, I hope somebody at least taps them on the shoulder.
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TBH I agree with Invictus. Doesn't bother me... but if NASL wants to be professional, they *cannot* be doing that shit.
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On August 13 2012 11:47 InvictusRage wrote:
Yeah, so all the anti-female bullshit is not cool, NASL.
I like boobs.
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I bet you guys loved all the jokes 2GD and Geoff made at Assembly, didn't you? But Rotti and Bitter make a single joke against women and suddenly "GAH NASL SO UNPROFESSIONAL AS AN ORGANIZATION TO HAVE CASTERS THAT MAKE JOKES FROM TIME TO TIME"
On August 13 2012 12:28 MrBitter wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2012 11:47 InvictusRage wrote:
Yeah, so all the anti-female bullshit is not cool, NASL. I like boobs.
Valid
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On August 13 2012 12:24 InvictusRage wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2012 12:19 Ziggitz wrote:On August 13 2012 12:08 InvictusRage wrote:On August 13 2012 11:58 Dexington wrote:On August 13 2012 11:47 InvictusRage wrote:
Yeah, so all the anti-female bullshit is not cool, NASL. What the hell are you talking about? In the context of discussing protoss females, Bitter said something like "What would you do with a woman without a mouth?" pretty clearly in context implying that oral sex is the only purpose women serve. Rotterdam responded by saying that a woman without a mouth would be awesome, that relationships would be so much easier then, implying (if not directly saying) that the communication of women is a contemptible thing that needs to be minimized as much as possible. I doubt that either of them are really misogynists and they were truly speaking in jest(if I recall correctly they both have girlfriends.). They tend to have bro moments where they speak a little crassly in which is very inappropriate on stream, I too was little shocked to hear them go off like that. I wouldn't freak out about it but they probably need a tap on the shoulder and a reminder to keep it a little more respectful. That would be great. I hope that's true. I don't think I have particularly good evidence that it's true. People with girlfriends can be misogynists too. What people say in unguarded moments tends to shed light on their actual views, regardless of what they say when they are paying attention. But I've said my piece, I hope somebody at least taps them on the shoulder.
The issue of misogyny aside, I just find it interesting that your name is InvictusRage, which in Latin/English should mean "Inconquerable Rage" if I am not mistaken :p
Sure I can see how the comments could get some people upset, but it was really just some light-hearted banter. Nothing malicious, and maybe a tap on the shoulder like you suggested probably would be a good idea.
However, it's probably not best to label Bitterdam misogynists just from this. That would be a bit of an overreaction.
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On August 13 2012 12:08 InvictusRage wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2012 11:58 Dexington wrote:On August 13 2012 11:47 InvictusRage wrote:
Yeah, so all the anti-female bullshit is not cool, NASL. What the hell are you talking about? In the context of discussing protoss females, Bitter said something like "What would you do with a woman without a mouth?" pretty clearly in context implying that oral sex is the only purpose women serve. Rotterdam responded by saying that a woman without a mouth would be awesome, that relationships would be so much easier then, implying (if not directly saying) that the communication of women is a contemptible thing that needs to be minimized as much as possible.
They were clearly joking around.... People in this community need to relax a little.
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If people want to continue talking about that remark :: It's something that would get you booted off of broadcast TV if it was said during a sporting event. In the context of a random bs starcraft stream, it's not really a big deal... but it's the reason why SC2 broadcasting will never expand beyond what we have now. Lots of major community figures have been commenting on sc community professionalism for a while now... obviously it's not going to be solved.
That's the reason why some people are 'upset' or 'being uptight'.
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On August 13 2012 12:57 Gescom wrote:
If people want to continue talking about that remark :: It's something that would get you booted off of broadcast TV if it was said during a sporting event. In the context of a random bs starcraft stream, it's not really a big deal... but it's the reason why SC2 broadcasting will never expand beyond what we have now. Lots of major community figures have been commenting on sc community professionalism for a while now... obviously it's not going to be solved.
That's the reason why some people are 'upset' or 'being uptight'.
Let's face it though: at this point we are far from being mainstream enough in North America to be on broadcast TV. There are much bigger issues on why we aren't on broadcast TV, and it's not because of the occasional politically incorrect remark.
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One game to win an extra $500 and a spot in NASL4. That's some huge pressure.
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On August 13 2012 13:00 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2012 12:57 Gescom wrote:
If people want to continue talking about that remark :: It's something that would get you booted off of broadcast TV if it was said during a sporting event. In the context of a random bs starcraft stream, it's not really a big deal... but it's the reason why SC2 broadcasting will never expand beyond what we have now. Lots of major community figures have been commenting on sc community professionalism for a while now... obviously it's not going to be solved.
That's the reason why some people are 'upset' or 'being uptight'. Let's face it though: at this point we are far from being mainstream enough in North America to be on broadcast TV. There are much bigger issues on why we aren't on broadcast TV, and it's not because of the occasional politically incorrect remark.
You don't think this is the kind of stuff sponsors care about? Because getting sponsors willing to bankroll by paying players and broadcasters is the biggest barrier to becoming more mainstream. Kellog's stopped sponsoring Michael Phelps because he was caught smoking pot despite the fact that he is still hugely popular. You don't think Destiny's behaviour has hurt him financially? No this one comment is not going to destroy the NASL and the lack of it is not the sole barrier to mainstream appeal, that doesn't make self destructive behaviour a good idea.
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Wow, GG Bischu, great game too Glon , best of luck at IPL5.
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Oh yeah! So happy for Bischu! GJ!
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so close Glon. GL in the next one!
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Ya know, Rotti actually looks good with orange hair.
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GG, see you all next week (maybe I'll actually get casted before the semi finals....?)
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So...no Nova bodypaint?
I'm a big patron of the arts.
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I guess that was just teasing on Lauren's part.
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On August 13 2012 13:28 Glon wrote:
GG, see you all next week (maybe I'll actually get casted before the semi finals....?)
Hope so! you came through on your promise to beat inca , 1 game away, getem next week man!
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I fell asleep during Inca/Glon (no, the games had nothing to do with it :p ). Happy to see Bischu make it all the way. Obtaining a spot in NASL is big and a great opportunity to get your name out. glhf ^^
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i registrated one the website, i am logged in and i edited my starcraft profile and charactercode but i dont see any button to sign up i need help please
EDIT: nevermind, found it! stupid me!
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On August 13 2012 12:57 Gescom wrote:
If people want to continue talking about that remark :: It's something that would get you booted off of broadcast TV if it was said during a sporting event. In the context of a random bs starcraft stream, it's not really a big deal... but it's the reason why SC2 broadcasting will never expand beyond what we have now. Lots of major community figures have been commenting on sc community professionalism for a while now... obviously it's not going to be solved.
That's the reason why some people are 'upset' or 'being uptight'.
SC2 isnt mainstream because its a god dam video game. Society (atleast in the usa) has to change becuase SC2 ever has a chance at mainstream. The jokes casters say while might affect sponsors (to a point) isnt going to have a huge impact on whether or not sc2 is going to go mainstream..
Bitterdam did not end SC2 or another video games chance at hitting the main stream..
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I'd love to see NASL get interviews with the guys who qualify.
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On August 13 2012 23:45 Dexington wrote:
I'd love to see NASL get interviews with the guys who qualify.
Yeah I imagine it was pretty late for Bischu by that point and he might have fallen asleep!
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On August 14 2012 05:13 BathTubNZ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2012 23:45 Dexington wrote:
I'd love to see NASL get interviews with the guys who qualify. Yeah I imagine it was pretty late for Bischu by that point and he might have fallen asleep!
Oh right I forgot he was playing at like 3AM. That makes it even more impressive.
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On August 13 2012 13:30 Jerubaal wrote:
So...no Nova bodypaint?
I'm a big patron of the arts.
Saving this for when the season starts.
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Is there a link to see the participants (and bracket when it starts) for qualifier #2?
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On August 14 2012 17:38 BathTubNZ wrote:
Taeja has signed up.
hooooooooo damnnnn
coca, mma, thestc, inca, crank, taeja... zomg
(coca is 94jwchoi)
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maybe mma will show up this time!
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On August 14 2012 17:38 BathTubNZ wrote:
Taeja has signed up.
One season too late. If he had signed up last season and qualified, we would have seen Liquid's entire roster in the NASL last season.
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I wonder if some of the guys were like 'Inca made the semi's? I need to get in on this action!'
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To be fair, the only new Koreans are TaeJa and Coca, I think, and Taeja had actually signed up for the last three tournaments at some point last week.
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Less of a turnout for this one, but it should still be pretty good. Less top foreigners but more Koreans.
Starts tonight
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Yah, i'm hoping taeJa makes it. That would be so great to get to watch him every week!!! Well every week except his bye week
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I always expected the first to be the biggest, but it's not much smaller, still a great turn out. The one during MLG Raleigh will probably be the smallest.
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Let's see some good matches potentially these couple rounds.
Round 1
Ziktomini vs KawaiiRice
Caliber vs Kyhol
JookTo vs Horror (I think, Oink's in game name is KimHyoJung, which is Horror's name)
IceCream vs Scarlett (!!!!!)
ToD vs Coca
Carn vs White
Round 2 possibilities
JonnyREcco vs Glon
Elbegast vs Zikto/Kawaii
TaeJa vs Slayers.Arthur (Again, I think, because in game name is Arthur)
Artist vs Idra
Golden vs Tod/Coca
Round 2 could be wrong, BG brackets look really weird.
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On August 17 2012 09:09 Samp wrote:
registration over right?
As the games should now be under way, yes.
But there are still 2 more qualifier that are open!
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The Beyond Gaming brackets make upwards of zero sense. The rounds don't go together at all and the only way to find who you are playing is to count up from the bottom, cause at the top, Crank just appears from no where.
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It's just like 64 players are seeded into the round of the 64, and the rest of the players play off for the other 64 places. Or something along those lines.
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Big result, they'll probably show IceCream vs Scarlett after this game.
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Well ZIktomini took out Kawaii pretty convincingly there
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Haha there's a silver league player in the round of 64. TaiwanJ, just checked his profile. Looks like both his opponents, Nocreativity and Bly, didn't show up.
Edit: TaeJa/Arthur spoiler: + Show Spoiler +TaeJa is out, wonder if he showed up
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very nice play by Ziktomini there vs Kawaii
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Can you guys please update the Liquipedia?
I just got here and have no idea what is going on...
For instance, people were talking about MMA, is he playing?
Thanks!
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On August 17 2012 11:05 Walnuts wrote:
Can you guys please update the Liquipedia?
I just got here and have no idea what is going on...
For instance, people were talking about MMA, is he playing?
Thanks!
I'm not putting the entire bracket on Liquipedia, we have no info on over half the players. Wait for tomorrow when we have the round of 32.
Spoiler for MMA:
+ Show Spoiler +He beat two unknowns and is in the Ro64 against Australian Zerg MaFia. Rounds of 64 and 32 go tomorrow
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On August 17 2012 11:12 Dexington wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2012 11:05 Walnuts wrote:
Can you guys please update the Liquipedia?
I just got here and have no idea what is going on...
For instance, people were talking about MMA, is he playing?
Thanks! I'm not putting the entire bracket on Liquipedia, we have no info on over half the players. Wait for tomorrow when we have the round of 32. Spoiler for MMA: + Show Spoiler +He beat two unknowns and is in the Ro64 against Australian Zerg MaFia. Rounds of 64 and 32 go tomorrow
Thanks a lot!
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Catz games are always wacky lol
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Catz.... I don't even know what he's doing half the time, I'm not even sure he knows what he's doing half the time. Scrappy series so far, intrigued to see how game 3 goes
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just jumped in. am i missing a joke regarding bitter's clothing? hat and glasses? looking nice :D
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On August 17 2012 11:36 -_- wrote:
just jumped in. am i missing a joke regarding bitter's clothing? hat and glasses? looking nice :D
I remember yesterday during the NA Gauntlet, Frodan started off wearing the glasses, then gave them to Gretorp. I'm guessing someone dared Bitter to wear them through the whole cast.
No clue about the hat lol
Edit: Wait, why is the bracket updating with some Ro64 matches?
Apparently they're still playing for some reason. Maybe if both people wanted to keep playing they let them?
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Rocker beat illusion O.O
dang.
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On August 17 2012 11:42 Dexington wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2012 11:36 -_- wrote:
just jumped in. am i missing a joke regarding bitter's clothing? hat and glasses? looking nice :D No clue about the hat lol
its to hide the bald spot
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On August 17 2012 11:54 Picklebread wrote:
Rocker beat illusion O.O
dang.
THAT'S MY BRO!!!!!
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How are they filling out this bracket? The 3rd round shows a bunch of W's and L's next to the players' names, but the winners' names aren't being placed into the next round. A few minutes ago, it showed W's for both players in one of the matches.
Do only the winners of each qualifier receive NASL spots, or the top four of each qualifier? The OP doesn't properly make this distinction (is it 4 players or 16 overall?).
+ Show Spoiler +
I guess I'll just assume MMA lost. Too bad he dropped out of IEM, like a few days before it became a who's who tournament (and one for which he won the qualifier)
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On August 17 2012 12:22 Ansinjunger wrote:
How are they filling out this bracket? The 3rd round shows a bunch of W's and L's next to the players' names, but the winners' names aren't being placed into the next round. A few minutes ago, it showed W's for both players in one of the matches.
Do only the winners of each qualifier receive NASL spots, or the top four of each qualifier? The OP doesn't properly make this distinction (is it 4 players or 16 overall?).
The bracket only makes the next round once the current round is finished. It is pretty annoying how it doesn't show scores and, afaik, doesn't give a way to find out scores.
Only 4 players overall.
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On August 17 2012 12:12 Dexington wrote:Oh MMA... + Show Spoiler +Lost to Mafia round of 64 apparently
FUCK YES MAFIAAAAAAAAAA
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Inca, those aren't DTs, you have to micro those units.
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Inca is a hilarious player lol what goes through his mind?
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Gate into forge into double gas into triple cannon contain. Miso just moves his 2nd cc and hides it, and makes a 3rd so when inca scouts, he won't know anything is remiss.
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MMA did not participate in this....
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On August 17 2012 14:55 Xeris wrote:
MMA did not participate in this....
Who is smilekr29 then?
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Rofl, whoever's doing the overlays is awesome. "Adopt me please" -inca overlay.
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On August 18 2012 09:13 SMD wrote:
no broadcast tonight?
We're live tonight. Forgot to put up the event O.O. I just submitted it so hopefully it goes through before we start matches at 6PM PDT.
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Did you know ROOT means family?
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I'm glad you guys fixed HappyZerg's situation.
Hmm looks like a Korean will definitely win this qualifier.
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Incontrol just laid down the hammer against Drewbie. Really nice lategame control.
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Yeaaa thats the start of incontroll's comeback ! You heard it here first = )
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Hope they show Min/TOP next, that should be a sick game. Or Sleep/Coca
Edit: TOP/Glon Guess they're sticking with Ro64 for now. Probably a couple Ro32 after this.
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iNcontroL bossing it up ^^
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Oh god Top that's such moldy cheese lol poor Glon
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In that last engagement, TOP had great positioning and Glon really botched his attempt at breaking TOP's attack.
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BG bracket had results for 4 of the Ro16 matches up but they're gone now. Probably to prevent spoilers for tomorrow.
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Destructible rocks > roaches rofl
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sick sick micro from Glon i think im going to puke now
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lol... that was a funny game to watch.
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Haha Destiny beats Miso in game one in five minutes.
Miso is on SlayerS? Didn't know that.
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Now Miso is done. Terrible micro, always been a problem for him.
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Perfect engagement by Destiny
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destiny vs his stream sniper ErA next in the bracket... that is pretty hilarious
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That was one of the most hilarious games I've ever seen.
Destiny hit the most perfect engagements, but his macro was so poor compared to Miso's,.. but Miso just had terrible splits, engagements, and decision making.
Destiny 2-0 against a SlayerS terran lol... gg wp
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On August 18 2012 12:24 simmeh wrote:
destiny vs his stream sniper ErA next in the bracket... that is pretty hilarious
Haha yeah I just saw his stream yesterday where he destroyed ErA and kept telling him he was terrible and to get out, then smack talked him for like 5 minutes after the game.
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Good lord, Destiny drains his opponents dry. Terran mines out 4 bases and Destiny's all "whatever". Even the greediest fast 3 OC wasn't enough to take down Destiny's turtling. He needs to stop sending his whole army to take care of drops though.
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On August 18 2012 12:32 Dexington wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2012 12:24 simmeh wrote:
destiny vs his stream sniper ErA next in the bracket... that is pretty hilarious Haha yeah I just saw his stream yesterday where he destroyed ErA and kept telling him he was terrible and to get out, then smack talked him for like 5 minutes after the game.
That sounds like every other game destiny's played on stream this month. That dude seriously sits around and waits all day and night to stream cheat destiny, and ends up losing 5 out of 6 games anyway. It's pretty fucking sad.
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On August 18 2012 12:47 tribulator wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2012 12:32 Dexington wrote:On August 18 2012 12:24 simmeh wrote:
destiny vs his stream sniper ErA next in the bracket... that is pretty hilarious Haha yeah I just saw his stream yesterday where he destroyed ErA and kept telling him he was terrible and to get out, then smack talked him for like 5 minutes after the game. That sounds like every other game destiny's played on stream this month. That dude seriously sits around and waits all day and night to stream cheat destiny, and ends up losing 5 out of 6 games anyway. It's pretty fucking sad.
Is that the same guy who recently stream cheated against IdrA too? To the point where IdrA shut down his stream for the day? I think ErA might stream snipe (stream cheat?) against multiple players.
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IdrA losing 2-0 to Shibby :O, UK powa! Good to see Ziktomini with another strong performance, he hasnt shown a lot online since winning WCS UK so this could be a great statement to send out with WCS Europe fast approaching . British sc2 scene looking as strong as it has ever been ~
edit: I was always curious why JonnyREcco seemed to be particularly bm towards ErA whenever they played. I guess it kinda makes sense now
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destiny vs era hilarious they end up going against each other. shoudl be great lol, hope he wins as i find stream sniping/cheating to be incredibly lame to do.
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On August 18 2012 12:48 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2012 12:47 tribulator wrote:On August 18 2012 12:32 Dexington wrote:On August 18 2012 12:24 simmeh wrote:
destiny vs his stream sniper ErA next in the bracket... that is pretty hilarious Haha yeah I just saw his stream yesterday where he destroyed ErA and kept telling him he was terrible and to get out, then smack talked him for like 5 minutes after the game. That sounds like every other game destiny's played on stream this month. That dude seriously sits around and waits all day and night to stream cheat destiny, and ends up losing 5 out of 6 games anyway. It's pretty fucking sad. Is that the same guy who recently stream cheated against IdrA too? To the point where IdrA shut down his stream for the day? I think ErA might stream snipe (stream cheat?) against multiple players.
Yeah, he's actually sniping idra right now. He's essentially the swedish deezer.
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Why did MMA join BOTH of these just to walk out of BOTH?
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How sure are people that was MMA?
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On August 19 2012 09:26 BathTubNZ wrote:
How sure are people that was MMA?
Apparently it wasn't, but he always uses the account name Mavengence, which Coca also used. So it should have at least been a Slayers.
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On August 19 2012 10:07 Dexington wrote:Apparently it wasn't, but he always uses the account name Mavengence, which Coca also used. So it should have at least been a Slayers.
his registered name was also his actual korean name i think (Moon Sung Won) and his birth year (1988) or something like that
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Looks like they aren't updating the bracket until they're done broadcasting the round. Smart.
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I honestly can't stand this internet explorer commercial song they have played for the last 4 god damn months on twitch tv
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Gooooooooo Ziktomini, probably the only foreigner left who could make it to the finals.
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Heart seems like he's not playing as well as he could be. Or maybe Ziktomini's playing better than expected...
Hmm...I think Heart's going to pull through and win, though.
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Yeah that fungal that killed 12 Vikings was pretty key.
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On August 19 2012 10:17 artosismermaid wrote:
I honestly can't stand this internet explorer commercial song they have played for the last 4 god damn months on twitch tv
I just laugh at it. I mean, every time I see it I'm watching it on Chrome.
Every time.
Forever.
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Isn't Era a stream sniper or something unsavory?
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On August 19 2012 11:31 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Isn't Era a stream sniper or something unsavory?
100%
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sorry if i missed a update or something but thought era was facing destiny?
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They skipped that match, that was ro16. Destiny must have lost.
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Holy shit. Stream sniper or not, that was a damn impressive game.
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On August 19 2012 11:32 Dexington wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2012 11:31 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Isn't Era a stream sniper or something unsavory? 100%
Well, that's annoying.
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On August 19 2012 11:38 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2012 11:32 Dexington wrote:On August 19 2012 11:31 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Isn't Era a stream sniper or something unsavory? 100% Well, that's annoying.
I don't think he stream cheats though.
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Well he obviously can't stream cheat this match.
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On August 19 2012 11:39 Dexington wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2012 11:38 CosmicSpiral wrote:On August 19 2012 11:32 Dexington wrote:On August 19 2012 11:31 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Isn't Era a stream sniper or something unsavory? 100% Well, that's annoying. I don't think he stream cheats though.
This dude is cheesy as fuck.
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Ahhhhh update the bracket
Edit: lol ninja'd
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lol holy shit this guy is so cheesy. might work though with 3ccs.
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I admit, I'd like to see this guy qualify for the NASL. Would make the games interesting.
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He's a pretty good cheeser but he needs to know when to go back home. Huuuuuuuge advantage blown.
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I feel like I'm watching GSL Open Season 1.
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For those wondering why I all in every game, I suffer from bad ADHD. I really can not focus in longer games, but I still love playing sc2. Not saying this as in "don't hate me" because the hate is justified due to sniping, but just wanted to reveal the reason to why i can't play macro games.
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On August 19 2012 12:07 ErAsc2 wrote:
For those wondering why I all in every game, I suffer from bad ADHD. I really can not focus in longer games, but I still love playing sc2. Not saying this as in "don't hate me" because the hate is justified due to sniping, but just wanted to reveal the reason to why i can't play macro games.
Haha I really like this comment, because you accept the hate for sniping but give a valid reason for cheesing. Good run, man.
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On August 19 2012 12:07 ErAsc2 wrote:
For those wondering why I all in every game, I suffer from bad ADHD. I really can not focus in longer games, but I still love playing sc2. Not saying this as in "don't hate me" because the hate is justified due to sniping, but just wanted to reveal the reason to why i can't play macro games.
Eh, you do what you must.
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Spanishiwa boss moding it up. That was super impressive.
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On August 19 2012 12:07 ErAsc2 wrote:
For those wondering why I all in every game, I suffer from bad ADHD. I really can not focus in longer games, but I still love playing sc2. Not saying this as in "don't hate me" because the hate is justified due to sniping, but just wanted to reveal the reason to why i can't play macro games.
adderall?
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lol is Seo spoiling the other match.
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On August 19 2012 12:23 BathTubNZ wrote:
lol is Seo spoiling the other match.
They've only been showing 4 matches per broadcast, so I don't think it'll matter.
He also could just be assuming Arthur won cause he's Korean. Or Xeris gave him insider information since he's on the team
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Arthur was against Vines.
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Spanishiwa is the Korean slayer in this tournament. Min and SeoHyeon, now a shot against Arthur and if he wins that he gets another Korean in the final. Great run by him so far and his games have actually been really awesome.
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Of the 4 players left I have to admit he's the one I want to see make into NASL season 4. Though I guess it would be a nice boost for theStC to make it through.
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Hooray for QuanticSpanishiwa!
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When does Spanishwa/Arthur play next? The current matches airing are rebroadcasts, right? Results are already on Liquipedia.
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the semis are played in about 5-6 hours.
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Go Spanishiwa! It would be great to see him in the NASL playing each week.
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Gretorp just broke the TvZ metagame :p
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Dark has the sickest use of burrowed Banelings I've seen. They're absolutely everywhere.
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Dark is impressive. I was actually rooting for him though I don't usually root for underdogs. I can't wait for Spanishiwa vs Arthur; will we see the Korean slayer win or will the finals guarantee that a SlayerS member takes a NASL spot?
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Arthur seems like the favourite now.
We've heard nothing from Dark so far. And Spanishiwa hadnt too big results and should be the outsider.
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Well, looks like we got ourselves another Slayers in the NASL.
+ Show Spoiler +Looks like Slayers B-teamers are the best B-teamers :p
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is the bracket on liquidpedia? the bracket on beyond gaming sucks
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On August 20 2012 12:03 ninjamyst wrote:
is the bracket on liquidpedia? the bracket on beyond gaming sucks
Yes
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Gretorp not that updated
"Slayers consists mostly of terrans"
Looking at TLPD, they have 2 terrans in their 11 player A-team left: MMA and Ryung.
Many terrans left: Clide, Ganzi, Taeja, Boxer
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Slayers b-teamers rolling americans :/
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Sorry for being uninformed, but who are these guys? Slayers I hear?
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On August 20 2012 12:11 dangerjoe wrote:
Sorry for being uninformed, but who are these guys? Slayers I hear?
Yep. Slayers Arthur was a player who won the Slayers recruitment tournament. Last I heard, he's pretty cheesy, and basically an online player (EWM, ESV, etc), no significant LAN showings.
I know even less about Slayers Dark prior to this. I think he beat Polt in some offline qualifer this summer, but once again, no significant offline showings.
Two true up-and-comers.
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On August 20 2012 12:14 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2012 12:11 dangerjoe wrote:
Sorry for being uninformed, but who are these guys? Slayers I hear? Yep. Slayers Arthur was a player who won the Slayers recruitment tournament. Last I heard, he's pretty cheesy, and basically an online player (EWM, ESV, etc), no significant LAN showings. I know even less about Slayers Dark prior to this. I think he beat Polt in some offline qualifer this summer, but once again, no significant offline showings. Two true up-and-comers.
Thanks for answer I like Arthurs style this game
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On August 20 2012 12:08 ThePlayer33 wrote:
Slayers b-teamers rolling americans :/
Ok, come on, Spanishiwa had a good run this tournament but he isn't considered a top American player.
Also ignore that Dark beat TheStC and Coca, and Arthur beat VINES and Ziktomini.
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That's a really risky place to proxy a spire.
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That was a really fun game.
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Arthur looks a lot less cheesy and/or gimmicky than what I remember from his PvZ's in ESV Korean Weekly. Good stuff.
Also, thanks to NASL for broadcasting these games. Is a ton of fun to watch. And hey, I like Gretorp now! Amazingness!
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Arthur is much better than PvZ than he was a few months ago.
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Dominant performance by Arthur today. I think he well do well in NASL.
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With Arthur qualifying, there's perfect balance of races in season 4 right now, with 6 more players to be announced.
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On August 20 2012 12:50 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Arthur is much better than PvZ than he was a few months ago.
How very true. Congratulations to SlayerS'Arthur!
On the other hand, Dark's ZvP looked decidedly shaky. Then again, he had an amazing run through the brackets, beating Sleep, Coca and TheSTC is no small feat. And very nice to see new players crop up.
Edit: D'awwwwwwwww Chance is growing up... <3
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We really need a picture of Arthur. Seriously, how has he avoided a camera for so long?
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On August 20 2012 12:54 CosmicSpiral wrote:
We really need a picture of Arthur. Seriously, how has he avoided a camera for so long?
Secretly it is MMA off racing?
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I hope nasl's dj is here to stay, it's just way better than the war march orchestral music.
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hrmm it would be nice if huge money-names qualified each week :p arthur and glon are cool, but i wanna see mma, mkp, etc :p
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Congrats to Slayers! Made a $1000 bucks, easy money!
Welcome to Arthur for season 4.
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On August 20 2012 12:59 opterown wrote:
hrmm it would be nice if huge money-names qualified each week :p arthur and glon are cool, but i wanna see mma, mkp, etc :p
Well if they would just show up! Next weeks lot will be interested given the conflict with WCS and MLG.
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Congrats Arthur! Mr. Ratburn is very pleased.
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On August 20 2012 13:08 Bagration wrote:
Congrats Arthur! Mr. Ratburn is very pleased.
*imaginary +1*
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On August 20 2012 13:10 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2012 13:08 Bagration wrote:
Congrats Arthur! Mr. Ratburn is very pleased. *imaginary +1*
He must have gotten the joke off Jack.
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On August 17 2012 14:55 Xeris wrote:
MMA did not participate in this....
Sooo.....
Do you know who it was?
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On August 20 2012 12:16 dangerjoe wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2012 12:14 Bagration wrote:On August 20 2012 12:11 dangerjoe wrote:
Sorry for being uninformed, but who are these guys? Slayers I hear? Yep. Slayers Arthur was a player who won the Slayers recruitment tournament. Last I heard, he's pretty cheesy, and basically an online player (EWM, ESV, etc), no significant LAN showings. I know even less about Slayers Dark prior to this. I think he beat Polt in some offline qualifer this summer, but once again, no significant offline showings. Two true up-and-comers. Thanks for answer I like Arthurs style this game
Dark lost to Arthur in the finals of the recruitment tournament. I didn't know that SlayerS had taken him up as well.
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On August 21 2012 01:36 Walnuts wrote:Sooo..... Do you know who it was?
Although Mavengence is MMA's account (I think), Coca was using it for the tournament.
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On August 21 2012 02:48 Anta wrote:
Dark = Darkforce?
Dark = Slayers Dark
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On August 21 2012 02:49 FrodaN wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2012 01:36 Walnuts wrote:On August 17 2012 14:55 Xeris wrote:
MMA did not participate in this.... Sooo..... Do you know who it was? Although Mavengence is MMA's account (I think), Coca was using it for the tournament.
Then who was smilekr29?
smilekr29 is 100% MMA. In game name is Mavengence (I guess him and Coca shared?). If you click on his info page on beyond gaming, his birthday is October 29, 1988 and his last name matches, Moon.
It might not be him playing, but it is definitely his Beyond Gaming account.
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And the slayers guys have all signed up for the 3rd one too. I wonder why the Slayers B-Team are so keen, is Cella prodding the B-Teamers to get more practise? More teams should be doing something similar.
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This'll be the best chance for lesser knowns to qualify with MLG being the same weekend.
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Yeah, as expected, the number of NA 'names' is certainly down. I would say the odds of Korean winning this one are reasonably high.
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Games start in a little over an hour (5PM PDT)! Be sure to be in channel NASL on NA to find your matches and report! Remember to email Xeris@nasl.tv your replays!\
Also, just a reminder. Only the first two rounds are being played tonight.
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Scarlet is in WCS NA, so she's going to be at MLG.
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What on earth... Sson thinks that was a reaver + shuttle/
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Alas, that must be frustrating for Terran to lose after gaining an early lead from the scouted cheese.
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Short day. Aww Scarlet out already.
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who won the third qualifier?
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we will find out on Sunday. Today was the round of 256 & 128.
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Bly vs Ziktomini is rough considering the amount of notable people who are left still. I wonder how many actually didn't show up.
Honestly, I think this tournament is dKiLLeR's to lose.
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Really, with Coca and Inca?
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On August 24 2012 13:57 BathTubNZ wrote:
Really, with Coca and Inca?
Yep, KiLLeR will be playing on his server at an optimal time for him while the Koreans have to wake up early and play with latency. Also, Coca is out.
Edit: Hmm is Eppler97 actually MarineKing?
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Updated OP with link to #3 Bracket. Show starts in about an hour and a half
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Off we go with Coca vs Jookto.
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On August 24 2012 23:43 Dexington wrote:Yep, KiLLeR will be playing on his server at an optimal time for him while the Koreans have to wake up early and play with latency. Also, Coca is out. Edit: Hmm is Eppler97 actually MarineKing?
nope http://www.beyondgaming.com/profile/Eppler97
wrong birth date
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On August 24 2012 23:43 Dexington wrote:Yep, KiLLeR will be playing on his server at an optimal time for him while the Koreans have to wake up early and play with latency. Also, Coca is out. Edit: Hmm is Eppler97 actually MarineKing?
Apparently not D: go coca : D
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Yep Slayers love the NASLQ.
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Where is an updated bracket so I can update Liquipedia?
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they didn't share one, ^^ that's the round of 4 though.
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On August 27 2012 05:36 BathTubNZ wrote:
they didn't share one, ^^ that's the round of 4 though.
Yeah I did what I could on LP, it's an ugly bracket with holes though
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Need a Bly vs Sortof Finals!
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And Sortof makes it to the money!
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Dark makes it to the finals again! He gets to eat this month!
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sortof doing really well, really like his decision making in this zvz vs dark
now up 30 supply, up by 20 workers, has mutas infestors and now getting roaches!
dark really really supply capped right now
but now it's even because both players are maxed 
hahah huge engagement but it comes out mostly even and then both players re-max ahahahah.
sortof with a much faster greater spire
sort of taking forever to break down the spines at the front of darks 4th so dark does a bunch of multi pronged shit and hits 3 bases at once takes out the hive and 4th
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Dark is SlayerS I believe, yes? His TLPD says no team.
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sot of lost every base and all of his hatcheries???????/
gg sort of leaves the game
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What the hell did I just see...? Go Dark!
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Dark and arthur intrigue me, from what I've seen in the ESV weeklies Arthur doesn't seem to do that well while I know absolutely nothing about Dark yet they seem to be doing well in the qualifiers hopefully dark qualifies as well so I get to see more out of these two.
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Congratulations Dark!
Which slayers player will win next week?
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On August 27 2012 11:22 Fusilero wrote:
Dark and arthur intrigue me, from what I've seen in the ESV weeklies Arthur doesn't seem to do that well while I know absolutely nothing about Dark yet they seem to be doing well in the qualifiers hopefully dark qualifies as well so I get to see more out of these two.
Arthur has wins against Revival, Tear and Gumiho. And his recent record looks pretty decent.
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/3837_Arthur/games#tblt-566-1-1-DESC
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Slayers have been swarming these qualifiers these past 2 seasons.
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On August 27 2012 12:08 Bagration wrote:
Slayers have been swarming these qualifiers these past 2 seasons.
$150 bucks a week (plus possible extra prizes) must be pretty decent for a Korean B-Teamer, I am surprised more of them aren't flocking to the qualifiers.
NSH I'm looking at you!
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On August 27 2012 12:38 BathTubNZ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 12:08 Bagration wrote:
Slayers have been swarming these qualifiers these past 2 seasons. $150 bucks a week (plus possible extra prizes) must be pretty decent for a Korean B-Teamer, I am surprised more of them aren't flocking to the qualifiers. NSH I'm looking at you!
Speaking of NSHoseo, it'd be nice to see NASL extend an invite to Jjakji.
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Damn I should have looked at the players list, TSL might outnumber Slayers this time, Inori, Ragnarok, Hyun, Shine & Symbol are all registered for slot 4!
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TSL's hitting this shit full force.
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Yeah TSL Punisher and Center just signed up too. That's a good chunk of the team.
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Yea , all of TSL will be participating
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http://www.nasl.tv/News/Article/20120830nasl-introduces-the-leaderboard-and-invites-players-to-season-4
So apparently the invites in NASL season 4 are MMA, DRG, Violet and Taeja. Which as silly as it sounds is a little disappointing. At least 1 should have been an interesting foreigner player like Scarlet. I mean it's not secret that foreigners enjoy watching foreigners play. You are also awarding players who can't be bothered to try out for the NASL through the open tournaments (though DRG did try in the wildcard tournament). Basically 12 foreigners are removed from the league and replaced by ~4 foreigners and ~8 koreans.
tldr You should use the invites to bring in interesting players into the league.
And what happened to the BitterDam Qualifier?
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I was expecting Nerchio at least.
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Exactly, another successful competitive foreigner.
And MrBitter just said Nerchio declined an invite, which is possibly even more disappointing.
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When will tonights bracket be made available?
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And now a good chunk of MVP just signed up too, so Slayers, TSL and MVP are all well represented now. pity they waited till the last one seems they missed a few good chances.
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On August 30 2012 11:21 BathTubNZ wrote:http://www.nasl.tv/News/Article/20120830nasl-introduces-the-leaderboard-and-invites-players-to-season-4So apparently the invites in NASL season 4 are MMA, DRG, Violet and Taeja. Which as silly as it sounds is a little disappointing. At least 1 should have been an interesting foreigner player like Scarlet. I mean it's not secret that foreigners enjoy watching foreigners play. You are also awarding players who can't be bothered to try out for the NASL through the open tournaments (though DRG did try in the wildcard tournament). Basically 12 foreigners are removed from the league and replaced by ~4 foreigners and ~8 koreans. tldr You should use the invites to bring in interesting players into the league. And what happened to the BitterDam Qualifier?
while i agree that foreigner invites give more storyline etc., you have to remember that NASL has very very few Koreans in it. And because everybody somehow thinks that the more Koreans = the more legit the tournament is, you have to respect nasl's decision.
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On August 31 2012 07:10 Hardigan wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 11:21 BathTubNZ wrote:http://www.nasl.tv/News/Article/20120830nasl-introduces-the-leaderboard-and-invites-players-to-season-4So apparently the invites in NASL season 4 are MMA, DRG, Violet and Taeja. Which as silly as it sounds is a little disappointing. At least 1 should have been an interesting foreigner player like Scarlet. I mean it's not secret that foreigners enjoy watching foreigners play. You are also awarding players who can't be bothered to try out for the NASL through the open tournaments (though DRG did try in the wildcard tournament). Basically 12 foreigners are removed from the league and replaced by ~4 foreigners and ~8 koreans. tldr You should use the invites to bring in interesting players into the league. And what happened to the BitterDam Qualifier? while i agree that foreigner invites give more storyline etc., you have to remember that NASL has very very few Koreans in it. And because everybody somehow thinks that the more Koreans = the more legit the tournament is, you have to respect nasl's decision.
I am totally cool with now that I see that it's a ranked invite system. I was under the impression that it was more a 'Who would be really cool to add to our league' sort of invite.
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Slayers, MVP, TSL this week.... going to be the most difficult qualifier yet!
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Alright showtime, I hope the Everyone shows up! It's ridiculously stacked this time.
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That's how you do advertising!
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frodan is actually pretty funny
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On August 04 2012 13:37 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2012 13:29 opterown wrote:On August 04 2012 13:27 CosmicSpiral wrote:How do people know who is in the qualifier? On August 04 2012 13:22 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Crank is in the qualifier so I guess he has to start finding a team soon He'll probably be contacted at IPL5 depending on his performance. IPL5 is ages away, or so I hear? November is a while haha http://www.beyondgaming.com/competition/tournament/view/yeieo looking at who has signed up so far I think it'll come down to minigun, scarlett, crank, or trimaster. Did I miss anyone really big? There's definitely some other people in there that can pull upsets off these players but I feel like those are the top four signed up so far.
Well sC qualified for WCS Korea and has been code S before, none of the players you mentioned did that.
Also are there brackets?
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That was a lot of mutalisks O.O
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Holy moly some really surprising results so far.
+ Show Spoiler +TheStC lost to NadaViking and Coca lost to KiLLeR oOOoOOooOOO
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On August 31 2012 11:13 Dexington wrote:Holy moly some really surprising results so far. + Show Spoiler +TheStC lost to NadaViking and Coca lost to KiLLeR oOOoOOooOOO
+ Show Spoiler +STC apparently didn't show, but that's not official.
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On August 31 2012 08:04 BathTubNZ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 07:10 Hardigan wrote:On August 30 2012 11:21 BathTubNZ wrote:http://www.nasl.tv/News/Article/20120830nasl-introduces-the-leaderboard-and-invites-players-to-season-4So apparently the invites in NASL season 4 are MMA, DRG, Violet and Taeja. Which as silly as it sounds is a little disappointing. At least 1 should have been an interesting foreigner player like Scarlet. I mean it's not secret that foreigners enjoy watching foreigners play. You are also awarding players who can't be bothered to try out for the NASL through the open tournaments (though DRG did try in the wildcard tournament). Basically 12 foreigners are removed from the league and replaced by ~4 foreigners and ~8 koreans. tldr You should use the invites to bring in interesting players into the league. And what happened to the BitterDam Qualifier? while i agree that foreigner invites give more storyline etc., you have to remember that NASL has very very few Koreans in it. And because everybody somehow thinks that the more Koreans = the more legit the tournament is, you have to respect nasl's decision. I am totally cool with now that I see that it's a ranked invite system. I was under the impression that it was more a 'Who would be really cool to add to our league' sort of invite.
Yeah but they announced the ranked invite system after the tournaments being considered were already completed. I <3 NASL but it seems like they probably just chose a system that would give them four fan favourites.
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On August 31 2012 12:07 Geos13 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 08:04 BathTubNZ wrote:On August 31 2012 07:10 Hardigan wrote:On August 30 2012 11:21 BathTubNZ wrote:http://www.nasl.tv/News/Article/20120830nasl-introduces-the-leaderboard-and-invites-players-to-season-4So apparently the invites in NASL season 4 are MMA, DRG, Violet and Taeja. Which as silly as it sounds is a little disappointing. At least 1 should have been an interesting foreigner player like Scarlet. I mean it's not secret that foreigners enjoy watching foreigners play. You are also awarding players who can't be bothered to try out for the NASL through the open tournaments (though DRG did try in the wildcard tournament). Basically 12 foreigners are removed from the league and replaced by ~4 foreigners and ~8 koreans. tldr You should use the invites to bring in interesting players into the league. And what happened to the BitterDam Qualifier? while i agree that foreigner invites give more storyline etc., you have to remember that NASL has very very few Koreans in it. And because everybody somehow thinks that the more Koreans = the more legit the tournament is, you have to respect nasl's decision. I am totally cool with now that I see that it's a ranked invite system. I was under the impression that it was more a 'Who would be really cool to add to our league' sort of invite. Yeah but they announced the ranked invite system after the tournaments being considered were already completed. I <3 NASL but it seems like they probably just chose a system that would give them four fan favourites.
They did get 4 fan favourites though. However, when this system gives them some boring Koreans nobody is interested in, there might get some more flak
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On August 31 2012 12:09 Dexington wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 12:07 Geos13 wrote:On August 31 2012 08:04 BathTubNZ wrote:On August 31 2012 07:10 Hardigan wrote:On August 30 2012 11:21 BathTubNZ wrote:http://www.nasl.tv/News/Article/20120830nasl-introduces-the-leaderboard-and-invites-players-to-season-4So apparently the invites in NASL season 4 are MMA, DRG, Violet and Taeja. Which as silly as it sounds is a little disappointing. At least 1 should have been an interesting foreigner player like Scarlet. I mean it's not secret that foreigners enjoy watching foreigners play. You are also awarding players who can't be bothered to try out for the NASL through the open tournaments (though DRG did try in the wildcard tournament). Basically 12 foreigners are removed from the league and replaced by ~4 foreigners and ~8 koreans. tldr You should use the invites to bring in interesting players into the league. And what happened to the BitterDam Qualifier? while i agree that foreigner invites give more storyline etc., you have to remember that NASL has very very few Koreans in it. And because everybody somehow thinks that the more Koreans = the more legit the tournament is, you have to respect nasl's decision. I am totally cool with now that I see that it's a ranked invite system. I was under the impression that it was more a 'Who would be really cool to add to our league' sort of invite. Yeah but they announced the ranked invite system after the tournaments being considered were already completed. I <3 NASL but it seems like they probably just chose a system that would give them four fan favourites. They did get 4 fan favourites though. However, when this system gives them some boring Koreans nobody is interested in, there might get some more flak
Which is why it will be interesting to see if they actually keep the system after this season. I hope they do but I will understand if they cave into the need for high profile players.
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On August 31 2012 12:13 Geos13 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 12:09 Dexington wrote:On August 31 2012 12:07 Geos13 wrote:On August 31 2012 08:04 BathTubNZ wrote:On August 31 2012 07:10 Hardigan wrote:On August 30 2012 11:21 BathTubNZ wrote:http://www.nasl.tv/News/Article/20120830nasl-introduces-the-leaderboard-and-invites-players-to-season-4So apparently the invites in NASL season 4 are MMA, DRG, Violet and Taeja. Which as silly as it sounds is a little disappointing. At least 1 should have been an interesting foreigner player like Scarlet. I mean it's not secret that foreigners enjoy watching foreigners play. You are also awarding players who can't be bothered to try out for the NASL through the open tournaments (though DRG did try in the wildcard tournament). Basically 12 foreigners are removed from the league and replaced by ~4 foreigners and ~8 koreans. tldr You should use the invites to bring in interesting players into the league. And what happened to the BitterDam Qualifier? while i agree that foreigner invites give more storyline etc., you have to remember that NASL has very very few Koreans in it. And because everybody somehow thinks that the more Koreans = the more legit the tournament is, you have to respect nasl's decision. I am totally cool with now that I see that it's a ranked invite system. I was under the impression that it was more a 'Who would be really cool to add to our league' sort of invite. Yeah but they announced the ranked invite system after the tournaments being considered were already completed. I <3 NASL but it seems like they probably just chose a system that would give them four fan favourites. They did get 4 fan favourites though. However, when this system gives them some boring Koreans nobody is interested in, there might get some more flak Which is why it will be interesting to see if they actually keep the system after this season. I hope they do but I will understand if they cave into the need for high profile players.
If you get enough points to be in the top 4, you are a fan favorite because it means you win (a lot)
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On August 31 2012 12:20 TommyP wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 12:13 Geos13 wrote:On August 31 2012 12:09 Dexington wrote:On August 31 2012 12:07 Geos13 wrote:On August 31 2012 08:04 BathTubNZ wrote:On August 31 2012 07:10 Hardigan wrote:On August 30 2012 11:21 BathTubNZ wrote:http://www.nasl.tv/News/Article/20120830nasl-introduces-the-leaderboard-and-invites-players-to-season-4So apparently the invites in NASL season 4 are MMA, DRG, Violet and Taeja. Which as silly as it sounds is a little disappointing. At least 1 should have been an interesting foreigner player like Scarlet. I mean it's not secret that foreigners enjoy watching foreigners play. You are also awarding players who can't be bothered to try out for the NASL through the open tournaments (though DRG did try in the wildcard tournament). Basically 12 foreigners are removed from the league and replaced by ~4 foreigners and ~8 koreans. tldr You should use the invites to bring in interesting players into the league. And what happened to the BitterDam Qualifier? while i agree that foreigner invites give more storyline etc., you have to remember that NASL has very very few Koreans in it. And because everybody somehow thinks that the more Koreans = the more legit the tournament is, you have to respect nasl's decision. I am totally cool with now that I see that it's a ranked invite system. I was under the impression that it was more a 'Who would be really cool to add to our league' sort of invite. Yeah but they announced the ranked invite system after the tournaments being considered were already completed. I <3 NASL but it seems like they probably just chose a system that would give them four fan favourites. They did get 4 fan favourites though. However, when this system gives them some boring Koreans nobody is interested in, there might get some more flak Which is why it will be interesting to see if they actually keep the system after this season. I hope they do but I will understand if they cave into the need for high profile players. If you get enough points to be in the top 4, you are a fan favorite because it means you win (a lot)
That sure explains the top 5 streamers right now, Destiny, TLO, ProTech, KiLLeR and FitzyHere.
In other words, people don't only care about skill.
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On August 31 2012 12:28 Dexington wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 12:20 TommyP wrote:On August 31 2012 12:13 Geos13 wrote:On August 31 2012 12:09 Dexington wrote:On August 31 2012 12:07 Geos13 wrote:On August 31 2012 08:04 BathTubNZ wrote:On August 31 2012 07:10 Hardigan wrote:On August 30 2012 11:21 BathTubNZ wrote:http://www.nasl.tv/News/Article/20120830nasl-introduces-the-leaderboard-and-invites-players-to-season-4So apparently the invites in NASL season 4 are MMA, DRG, Violet and Taeja. Which as silly as it sounds is a little disappointing. At least 1 should have been an interesting foreigner player like Scarlet. I mean it's not secret that foreigners enjoy watching foreigners play. You are also awarding players who can't be bothered to try out for the NASL through the open tournaments (though DRG did try in the wildcard tournament). Basically 12 foreigners are removed from the league and replaced by ~4 foreigners and ~8 koreans. tldr You should use the invites to bring in interesting players into the league. And what happened to the BitterDam Qualifier? while i agree that foreigner invites give more storyline etc., you have to remember that NASL has very very few Koreans in it. And because everybody somehow thinks that the more Koreans = the more legit the tournament is, you have to respect nasl's decision. I am totally cool with now that I see that it's a ranked invite system. I was under the impression that it was more a 'Who would be really cool to add to our league' sort of invite. Yeah but they announced the ranked invite system after the tournaments being considered were already completed. I <3 NASL but it seems like they probably just chose a system that would give them four fan favourites. They did get 4 fan favourites though. However, when this system gives them some boring Koreans nobody is interested in, there might get some more flak Which is why it will be interesting to see if they actually keep the system after this season. I hope they do but I will understand if they cave into the need for high profile players. If you get enough points to be in the top 4, you are a fan favorite because it means you win (a lot) That sure explains the top 5 streamers right now, Destiny, TLO, ProTech, KiLLeR and FitzyHere. In other words, people don't only care about skill.
How many top players stream? People like those people because they are entertaining, people like TaeJa because hes good. Both can be fan favorites.
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On August 31 2012 12:33 TommyP wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 12:28 Dexington wrote:On August 31 2012 12:20 TommyP wrote:On August 31 2012 12:13 Geos13 wrote:On August 31 2012 12:09 Dexington wrote:On August 31 2012 12:07 Geos13 wrote:On August 31 2012 08:04 BathTubNZ wrote:On August 31 2012 07:10 Hardigan wrote:On August 30 2012 11:21 BathTubNZ wrote:http://www.nasl.tv/News/Article/20120830nasl-introduces-the-leaderboard-and-invites-players-to-season-4So apparently the invites in NASL season 4 are MMA, DRG, Violet and Taeja. Which as silly as it sounds is a little disappointing. At least 1 should have been an interesting foreigner player like Scarlet. I mean it's not secret that foreigners enjoy watching foreigners play. You are also awarding players who can't be bothered to try out for the NASL through the open tournaments (though DRG did try in the wildcard tournament). Basically 12 foreigners are removed from the league and replaced by ~4 foreigners and ~8 koreans. tldr You should use the invites to bring in interesting players into the league. And what happened to the BitterDam Qualifier? while i agree that foreigner invites give more storyline etc., you have to remember that NASL has very very few Koreans in it. And because everybody somehow thinks that the more Koreans = the more legit the tournament is, you have to respect nasl's decision. I am totally cool with now that I see that it's a ranked invite system. I was under the impression that it was more a 'Who would be really cool to add to our league' sort of invite. Yeah but they announced the ranked invite system after the tournaments being considered were already completed. I <3 NASL but it seems like they probably just chose a system that would give them four fan favourites. They did get 4 fan favourites though. However, when this system gives them some boring Koreans nobody is interested in, there might get some more flak Which is why it will be interesting to see if they actually keep the system after this season. I hope they do but I will understand if they cave into the need for high profile players. If you get enough points to be in the top 4, you are a fan favorite because it means you win (a lot) That sure explains the top 5 streamers right now, Destiny, TLO, ProTech, KiLLeR and FitzyHere. In other words, people don't only care about skill. How many top players stream? People like those people because they are entertaining, people like TaeJa because hes good. Both can be fan favorites.
Remember how much negativity there was during the IPL Finals with Squirtle vs Alive just because they weren't the biggest names? Yes most top players manage to gather a fairly large fanbase because of their skill but some players seem to struggle to attract interest(No one ever seems to be excited about poor Alicia) regardless. But you are right that the odds are good that next time the four will be popular enough that it won't be a problem.
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Did she show up this time?
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cool games! is there a LR thread for these?
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I just have to say that every time I listen to Gretorp and Frodan I'm amazed at how much they have improved and how good of a team they are. Especially Frodan -- you are so eloquent, man!
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I wish sC could qualify. He's one of the few Korean players I like watching because of his very unique play most of the time.
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Whole lot of TSL players today.
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Updated OP with new bracket.
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Its really unprofessional of her to not have shown up for her games. Does anyone know why? Its such a fresh experience to get to watch her.
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TSL players beasting up this qualifier. Probably going to see a TSL player qualify today, judging from the sheer amount and the skill they have.
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So I think MrBitter suggested that a Zerg has dropped from the league to be replaced by a protoss?
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On September 01 2012 11:34 BathTubNZ wrote:
So I think MrBitter suggested that a Zerg has dropped from the league to be replaced by a protoss?
I wouldn't be too surprised if the list we have on Liquipedia isn't 100% correct. Last season upwards of 5 players didn't accept their seeds, including Socke, Kiwikaki and Inka.
Also, shocking that we have a foreigner guaranteed in the semifinals of this tournament.
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On September 01 2012 11:36 Dexington wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2012 11:34 BathTubNZ wrote:
So I think MrBitter suggested that a Zerg has dropped from the league to be replaced by a protoss? I wouldn't be too surprised if the list we have on Liquipedia isn't 100% correct. Last season upwards of 5 players didn't accept their seeds, including Socke, Kiwikaki and Inka. Also, shocking that we have a foreigner guaranteed in the semifinals of this tournament.
Not really, it's just that the amount of foreigners is higher than the Koreans, and they all formed around the same bracket.
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On September 01 2012 11:38 PhoenixVoid wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2012 11:36 Dexington wrote:On September 01 2012 11:34 BathTubNZ wrote:
So I think MrBitter suggested that a Zerg has dropped from the league to be replaced by a protoss? I wouldn't be too surprised if the list we have on Liquipedia isn't 100% correct. Last season upwards of 5 players didn't accept their seeds, including Socke, Kiwikaki and Inka. Also, shocking that we have a foreigner guaranteed in the semifinals of this tournament. Not really, it's just that the amount of foreigners is higher than the Koreans, and they all formed around the same bracket.
Killer, TOP and jookTo were all beat in that bracket though, by Major, Dime and Everize. Major is the only one that wasn't too much of an upset.
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On September 01 2012 11:46 Dexington wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2012 11:38 PhoenixVoid wrote:On September 01 2012 11:36 Dexington wrote:On September 01 2012 11:34 BathTubNZ wrote:
So I think MrBitter suggested that a Zerg has dropped from the league to be replaced by a protoss? I wouldn't be too surprised if the list we have on Liquipedia isn't 100% correct. Last season upwards of 5 players didn't accept their seeds, including Socke, Kiwikaki and Inka. Also, shocking that we have a foreigner guaranteed in the semifinals of this tournament. Not really, it's just that the amount of foreigners is higher than the Koreans, and they all formed around the same bracket. Killer, TOP and jookTo were all beat in that bracket though, by Major, Dime and Everize. Major is the only one that wasn't too much of an upset.
Really, those three players are in Code B for a reason, because they really cannot stand up to any current GSL player. They are around a high foreigner level, so it's not that surprising they lost to MajOr, Dime and Everize.
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That surprised me, inori is a PvP specialist, so I thought he would have rolled over a TSL b-teamer.
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Hey TL, It was actually me vs Gimix in RO32 in Q4...but i did lose Although 2 RO32's and RO16 isn't too bad for a player as bad as me lol
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Revival is on fire this tournament.
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On September 01 2012 11:59 Prplppleatr wrote:Hey TL, It was actually me vs Gimix in RO32 in Q4...but i did lose Although 2 RO32's and RO16 isn't too bad for a player as bad as me lol
Yeah I had you there, but then the Binary bracket said it was Sasquatch. Changing it back.
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Revival always manages such clutch and amazing engagements which is why he does so well.
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EDIT: The mod sorted it out for me I think
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On September 01 2012 12:58 NOOBALOPSE wrote:EDIT: The mod sorted it out for me I think
O_O
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One bracket says Sasquatch lost to PrplPplEatr (which he also confirmed, and he also said he lost to Gimix), the other says Sasquatch is facing Hyun. What is going on?
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Time to find out if Major can make it to the semi's.
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I fail to see how a TSL player will not qualify for NASL.
Whoa, Logicc takes out Symbol? What is going on in the world.
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LOL this LR already has more pages than the whole TSL 4 semis ..
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On September 02 2012 10:38 Chessz wrote:
LOL this LR already has more pages than the whole TSL 4 semis ..
Because its multiple qualifiers.
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On September 02 2012 10:38 Chessz wrote:
LOL this LR already has more pages than the whole TSL 4 semis ..
Yeah this thread is on its 15th LR day lol
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Gotta say, really enjoying the commentators for NASL. Good stuff.
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On September 02 2012 11:19 Ezaura_au wrote:
Gotta say, really enjoying the commentators for NASL. Good stuff.
Indeed. Special nod to Gretorp for tremendous casting improvement.
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Looks like Revival had a...revival in that game. :p
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It's a shame that both of these players cannot advance to the Ro8, they both play incredibly well.
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Revival is such a powerful player at online tournaments, I only wish it could extend a little more towards LANs.
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It was a good game, until Dream forgot about the possibility of Broodlords. Too late of a viking transition :\
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Hyun had quite a bank though, 1 full round of lings would tear things apart.
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That was a great defence by HyuN, the Drone micro was pretty intense.
HyuN dominates.
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are there brackets with no annoying spoiler thing?
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On September 02 2012 12:22 antifan wrote:
are there brackets with no annoying spoiler thing?
Liquipedia
Meanwhile, Major playing great...and he dominates Everize
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On September 02 2012 12:22 antifan wrote:
are there brackets with no annoying spoiler thing?
You know you just delete the word 'spoiler' from the url and you can read the whole thing, or click the +s to remove the spoiler form a particular bracket.
Major chatting his way to the Semi's.
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Did we find out who the other 2 semi-finalists were?
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HyuN vs Logicc & Major vs Revival
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What a bad A-move by Revival. :/
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Well, Major took some obscene risks by playing super greedy, but Revival didn't punish it. That, coupled with great engagements by Major, made that game very one-sided. Well won Major.
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Wow easy money for Major I think.
Major into the money!
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Dominating performance this series by Major. Congrats
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Major is pretty damn good, wish we saw more of him in foreign tournaments
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Who is Logic? I haven't been following these qualifiers closely enough.
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On September 03 2012 10:53 gyad wrote:
We need to vote for Major in the Gauntlet. He got SIX wins (4 Koreans, 2 Foreigners), and quite impressive results overall recently.
Thanks!
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On September 03 2012 10:54 Swords wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2012 10:53 gyad wrote:
We need to vote for Major in the Gauntlet. He got SIX wins (4 Koreans, 2 Foreigners), and quite impressive results overall recently. Where do we vote? I think he deserves more opportunities to play for sure.
http://www.facebook.com/nasltv?sk=app_20678178440
You need to like the page first I think.
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On September 03 2012 10:53 Swords wrote:
Who is Logic? I haven't been following these qualifiers closely enough.
According to the bracket he's some american guy who beat Symbol earlier in the qualifier
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On September 03 2012 10:55 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2012 10:53 Swords wrote:
Who is Logic? I haven't been following these qualifiers closely enough. According to the bracket he's some american guy who beat Symbol earlier in the qualifier
Thanks!
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On September 03 2012 10:58 gyad wrote:
How did Logic lose this?
Not sure, not sure how he even got this far in truth
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On September 03 2012 11:02 Wombat_NI wrote:Not sure, not sure how he even got this far in truth
he took out 2 TSL players before this, too! Symbol and cyrano
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At least be creative in cheesing, like hiding it somewhere not so obvious.
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Hyun vs Major, the finals I wanted!
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Well, time for Hyun vs. Major round 3 (TSL, a tournament I don't remember, and now NASL)?
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So this is the guy who denied the possibility of Symbol in the NASL. . .
Great.
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On September 03 2012 11:04 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2012 11:02 Wombat_NI wrote:On September 03 2012 10:58 gyad wrote:
How did Logic lose this? Not sure, not sure how he even got this far in truth he took out 2 TSL players before this, too! Symbol and cyrano
According to the bracket he's terran. Did he switch to toss just to cheese? I don't understand anything.
But I'm happy for Major vs Hyun rematch! And that both are through of course so they don't have to eliminate each other
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I wonder if Stephano will pick Naniwa for his NASL group - that'd be pretty exciting.
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Zenio the only korean picked so far? oh and Hwangsin.
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On September 03 2012 11:28 BathTubNZ wrote:
Zenio the only korean picked so far?
MC just picked Hwangsin. Did someone catch the whole thing? I missed the beginning
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On September 03 2012 11:08 Swords wrote:
I wonder if Stephano will pick Naniwa for his NASL group - that'd be pretty exciting.
Alas he picked TT1, Nightend and qxc, pretty good picks from him I think, although a bit less exciting
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Picks
Stephano: qxc, TT1, Nightend
Alicia: Beastyqt, Lowely, Strelok
MC: Sheth, Vibe, Hwangsin
Ret: Huk, Masa, Hasuobs
Puzzle: Zenio, TLO, Cloud
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No one picked Taeja? Weird.
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On September 03 2012 11:34 Vaftrudner wrote:
No one picked Taeja? Weird.
MC should have picked Polt, MMA and DRG and made another group of champions. :p
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On September 03 2012 11:34 Vaftrudner wrote:
No one picked Taeja? Weird.
Gee what a surprise!
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On September 03 2012 11:06 Vaftrudner wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2012 11:04 Shellshock1122 wrote:On September 03 2012 11:02 Wombat_NI wrote:On September 03 2012 10:58 gyad wrote:
How did Logic lose this? Not sure, not sure how he even got this far in truth he took out 2 TSL players before this, too! Symbol and cyrano According to the bracket he's terran. Did he switch to toss just to cheese? I don't understand anything. But I'm happy for Major vs Hyun rematch! And that both are through of course so they don't have to eliminate each other
Ops, I misunderstood. So the winner is through, the loser isn't. Then this is really sad I know Hyun and Major are friends. But go Major! I always enjoy seeing him.
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Major going to have to lift his game.
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Hyun completely outmacroed Major that game, but I also remember a day when engaging your entire ling/bling army up a ramp/choke into 7 sieged-up sieged tanks would really punish the player silly enough to do it.
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Never thought I'd be cheering for Major to make the comeback :p
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Well, in TSL, Major was down 0-2 against Hyun and brought it back. We'll see
But yes, it looks way too hard for him right now.
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Losing all those Hellions and then the Banshees really hurt Major it seemed.
I hate that Infestors freeze + reveal cloak + damage the cloaked units. It's so boring to watch one unit clean up any harass with a single spell.
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I feel horrible for saying this and I know the comparison isn't fair, but Hyun suiciding his mutas over the stimmed marines reminded me of Idra :p
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sagi means imba IIRC, right?
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On September 03 2012 12:21 Bagration wrote:
I feel horrible for saying this and I know the comparison isn't fair, but Hyun suiciding his mutas over the stimmed marines reminded me of Idra :p
All is well that ends well!
Gz to Hyun, such an exciting player. Sad for Major, but at least he lost to a friend.
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damn missed it :/, anyways, I guess Ill need to look for the vods now
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