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Nuithari
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium737 Posts
August 01 2012 10:18 GMT
#421
Too bad for creator
Sick bracket for Alive btw. Nestea > Creator > HyuN O.o
"Marineking's greatest strength is his enjoyment of the game" -Grubby
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
August 01 2012 10:19 GMT
#422
nice hack got in, but creator
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 01 2012 10:20 GMT
#423
i'm thinking hack is a much better terran than bomber lol
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 01 2012 10:36 GMT
#424
hyun up 1 on alive
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AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
August 01 2012 10:42 GMT
#425
On August 01 2012 19:20 opterown wrote:
i'm thinking hack is a much better terran than bomber lol

Agreed, he's very strong.
oOOoOphidian
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1402 Posts
August 01 2012 10:48 GMT
#426
Hyun 2-0'd alive, and will play Stork!
Creator of sc2unmasked.com
AyMnRSC2
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States123 Posts
August 01 2012 10:50 GMT
#427
Is there a stream?
Masters Zerg player on NA twitch.tv/aymnr
Clefairy
Profile Joined September 2011
1570 Posts
August 01 2012 11:02 GMT
#428
IIRC Hyun has a better record against Stork in BW lol.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 01 2012 11:03 GMT
#429
go stork!!!!
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50753 Posts
August 01 2012 11:04 GMT
#430
On August 01 2012 20:02 Clefairy wrote:
IIRC Hyun has a better record against Stork in BW lol.


yep 3-4 in the 7 times stork met hyun.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
whirlpool
Profile Joined June 2011
2788 Posts
August 01 2012 11:04 GMT
#431
stork is not bad vs Z tho, he's improving alot
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 01 2012 11:05 GMT
#432
hyun 1 up on stork atm
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 01 2012 11:15 GMT
#433
well, hyun makes it two zergs to the RO16 haha...
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whirlpool
Profile Joined June 2011
2788 Posts
August 01 2012 11:18 GMT
#434
nooo storkuuu
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
August 01 2012 12:03 GMT
#435
WTF. TvZ stats:
non kespa players: 24W, 9L 72.72% winrate
kespa players: 12W, 6L 66.66% winrate

Overall: 36W, 15L, 70.59% winrate

Terran have picked-up the pace pretty quick.
"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 01 2012 12:07 GMT
#436
On August 01 2012 21:03 Diavlo wrote:
WTF. TvZ stats:
non kespa players: 24W, 9L 72.72% winrate
kespa players: 12W, 6L 66.66% winrate

Overall: 36W, 15L, 70.59% winrate

Terran have picked-up the pace pretty quick.

nerf the bunker!
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oOOoOphidian
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1402 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-01 12:09:19
August 01 2012 12:08 GMT
#437
On August 01 2012 21:03 Diavlo wrote:
WTF. TvZ stats:
non kespa players: 24W, 9L 72.72% winrate
kespa players: 12W, 6L 66.66% winrate

Overall: 36W, 15L, 70.59% winrate

Terran have picked-up the pace pretty quick.

It's the map pool as well. These are some of the best maps for terran.
Creator of sc2unmasked.com
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
August 01 2012 12:15 GMT
#438
On August 01 2012 21:03 Diavlo wrote:
WTF. TvZ stats:
non kespa players: 24W, 9L 72.72% winrate
kespa players: 12W, 6L 66.66% winrate

Overall: 36W, 15L, 70.59% winrate

Terran have picked-up the pace pretty quick.


We saw Zerg players become way overconfident in the matchup lately. Remember the Hyun vs Major series @ TSL4! It seems that most Zerg players felt kinda invulnerable in the matchup and started playing very sloppy... Now that they are beaten, they will start playing carefully again and things will normalize...
NHY
Profile Joined October 2010
1013 Posts
August 01 2012 12:30 GMT
#439
On August 01 2012 18:45 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2012 18:41 opterown wrote:
On August 01 2012 17:47 NHY wrote:
On August 01 2012 16:32 vthree wrote:
On August 01 2012 16:18 NHY wrote:
On August 01 2012 16:15 opterown wrote:
On August 01 2012 16:14 Strelok wrote:
Mappool favours terran hugely here. And by the way - any chance to watch vods from these games? Can't find anything...

mappool does not favour terran, and no vods since no stream

They do favor terran. These are probably 3 best terran maps.


We already went through the korean stats for these maps and they are actually pretty balanced in terms of win rate (slightly toss favor with terran in the middle and zerg least favor) but the difference is within 1-2% if you add up all 3 maps.

And Cloud Kingdom is much better than Entombed for terran. Anyways, they are much better than Atlantis and Metropolis in terms of balance.


Overall winrate stat is as useful as bnet poll on balance.

then by what metric are you saying these to be terran favoured?


Likely the number of Terrans qualifying. Ironically, it is the same metric
As win rate in the long run. Higher win rate = making it further into tournaments.

Sorry to disappoint, but I didn't just take a look at the qualifier results and decided that mappool favors terran.

There are so many contributing variables to an outcome of a SC2 match besides map&race. Even if there weren't, you'd need hundreds of data points to make any meaningful conclusion. For instance, you need more than 40-60 split for 100 data points to use it as a strong evidence that a coin toss isn't 50-50 with a fair degree of certainty.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-01 12:56:19
August 01 2012 12:35 GMT
#440
On August 01 2012 21:30 NHY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2012 18:45 vthree wrote:
On August 01 2012 18:41 opterown wrote:
On August 01 2012 17:47 NHY wrote:
On August 01 2012 16:32 vthree wrote:
On August 01 2012 16:18 NHY wrote:
On August 01 2012 16:15 opterown wrote:
On August 01 2012 16:14 Strelok wrote:
Mappool favours terran hugely here. And by the way - any chance to watch vods from these games? Can't find anything...

mappool does not favour terran, and no vods since no stream

They do favor terran. These are probably 3 best terran maps.


We already went through the korean stats for these maps and they are actually pretty balanced in terms of win rate (slightly toss favor with terran in the middle and zerg least favor) but the difference is within 1-2% if you add up all 3 maps.

And Cloud Kingdom is much better than Entombed for terran. Anyways, they are much better than Atlantis and Metropolis in terms of balance.


Overall winrate stat is as useful as bnet poll on balance.

then by what metric are you saying these to be terran favoured?


Likely the number of Terrans qualifying. Ironically, it is the same metric
As win rate in the long run. Higher win rate = making it further into tournaments.

Sorry to disappoint, but I didn't just take a look at the qualifier results and decided that mappool favors terran.

There are so many contributing variables to an outcome of a SC2 match besides map&race. Even if there weren't, you'd need hundreds of data points to make any meaningful conclusion. For instance, you need more than 40-60 split for 100 data points to use it as a strong evidence that a coin toss isn't 50-50 with a fair degree of certainty.

ohana:
TvZ: 105-101 (51%)
PvT: 92-90 (50.5%)

antiga:
TvZ: 362-354 (50.6%)
PvT: 297-296 (50.1%)

entombed:
TvZ: 135-166 (44.9%)
PvT: 218-236 (48%)

is this enough? :D none of this looks particularly terran favoured to me. they all seem quite fair, save for entombed TvZ (favoured for zerg). even the much vaunted terran shipyard is barely above 50% (and when you consider the historical terran dominance, the fact that zerg has pulled it even over just two months shows that terrans aren't doing so great on antiga - the last month's worth of antiga tvz)

how else would you decide if this map pool was terran favoured?
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