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bikefrog
Norway451 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
It's nice to see at least one foreigner who can complete and beat the Korean players, sc2 would indeed be dire for foreign players without him. We have Naniwa too in the GSL of course but he doesn't go to many foreign tournaments these days while Stephano goes to almost all of them. | ||
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Dawg_Snow
France425 Posts
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Milvus
Switzerland400 Posts
Need to tactically plan out my day for this. Starcraft, so demanding!  | ||
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Benjamin99
4176 Posts
On July 21 2012 19:04 Dodgin wrote: I used to be a Stephano anti-fan but I gave up, he's too good that's it's too painful to cheer against him. I accepted his skill after he won NASL. It's nice to see at least one foreigner who can complete and beat the Korean players, sc2 would indeed be dire for foreign players without him. We have Naniwa too in the GSL of course but he doesn't go to many foreign tournaments these days while Stephano goes to almost all of them. Haha, Dodgin:D Well im glad you seen the light:D | ||
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Narfinger
53 Posts
On July 21 2012 19:03 bikefrog wrote: Is it not possible to skip through the recording if you haven't purchased HD? Says it's a premium feature when I try, but it's never been this way before .It looks like this is only a Pass feature. Which basically means europe gets shafted.for no reason at all. I guess I will not care about this tournament. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On July 21 2012 19:12 Benjamin99 wrote: Haha, Dodgin:D Well im glad you seen the light:D Yeah, beating Hero and MC in succession as a Zerg is one of the most difficult things you can ever accomplish. That pushed it over the edge for me, I used to think he was over-rated but not anymore. Up there with Dongraegu for sure as best Zerg. | ||
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Mosquitow
England510 Posts
On July 21 2012 19:08 Milvus wrote: When does day 2 start. Why is it not in the upcoming events list? Or am I just blind? Need to tactically plan out my day for this. Starcraft, so demanding! Look at top right | ||
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Milvus
Switzerland400 Posts
Lol, merci! | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
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Aeroplaneoverthesea
United Kingdom1977 Posts
On July 21 2012 19:15 Dodgin wrote: Yeah, beating Hero and MC in succession as a Zerg is one of the most difficult things you can ever accomplish. That pushed it over the edge for me, I used to think he was over-rated but not anymore. Up there with Dongraegu for sure as best Zerg. DRG is still considerably better. | ||
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CursedRich
United Kingdom737 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On July 21 2012 19:29 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote: DRG is still considerably better. Up there with, not equal to or better than  I think Stephano is 2nd best Zerg after seeing Symbol's recent fall. | ||
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Aeroplaneoverthesea
United Kingdom1977 Posts
On July 21 2012 19:30 Dodgin wrote: Up there with, not equal to or better than I think Stephano is 2nd best Zerg after seeing Symbol's recent fall.I think it's very hard to judge the difference between Symbol/Nestea/Leenock and Stephano (you could even throw guys like Curious, Coca, Hyun etc.. into the mix). If those three Koreans spent all their time playing foreign tournament which in most cases have a slightly weaker or far weaker lineup than Code S they would have really, really damn good results too. Likewise if Stephano spent all his time playing GSL and GSTL he wouldn't find himself winning 80% of the games he plays either. Stephano spends a lot of time beating on foreigners, lower Code S and Code A/B Koreans and the odd elite Korean. When he plays guys like Nestea, Symbol, Mvp, MMA, MC, MKP his record is fine but it's not like he's doing better than breaking even at best. DRG's record this season speaks for itself that he is a cut above. | ||
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Benjamin99
4176 Posts
On July 21 2012 19:47 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote: I think it's very hard to judge the difference between Symbol/Nestea/Leenock and Stephano (you could even throw guys like Curious, Coca, Hyun etc.. into the mix). If those three Koreans spent all their time playing foreign tournament which in most cases have a slightly weaker or far weaker lineup than Code S they would have really, really damn good results too. Likewise if Stephano spent all his time playing GSL and GSTL he wouldn't find himself winning 80% of the games he plays either. Stephano spends a lot of time beating on foreigners, lower Code S and Code A/B Koreans and the odd elite Korean. When he plays guys like Nestea, Symbol, Mvp, MMA, MC, MKP his record is fine but it's not like he's doing better than breaking even at best. DRG's record this season speaks for itself that he is a cut above. Aeroplaneoverthesea thats simply not true. Check his games and stats from the last 3 months and you will see a huge list of Code S players beaten. And not only beaten he beat them with a +70 win ratio. Check the stats from youself plz Atm Stephano stats is absolutly insane. Sometimes I cant even belive what im seeing when im checking his matchup stats the last 3 months. Its allmost unreal considering how volatile sc2 is | ||
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Aeroplaneoverthesea
United Kingdom1977 Posts
On July 21 2012 19:51 Benjamin99 wrote: Aeroplaneoverthesea thats simply not true. Check his games and stats from the last 3 months and you will see a huge list of Code S players beaten. And not only beaten he beat them with a +70 win ratio. Check the stats from youself plz vs MC 4-2 vs Hero 3-1 vs MKP 1-2 vs Ganzi 2-0 vs Polt 2-1 vs Squirtle 3-1 vs MC 2-3 vs Parting 2-0 vs Violet 2-0 vs Violet 0-2 vs Symbol 0-2 vs MC 2-1 vs MMA 0-2 vs Nestea 1-2 vs MKP 1-2 vs Polt 1-2 vs Polt 5-2 vs Polt 1-4 vs MC 0-2 vs MKP 0-2 I included players who were Code S at the time of the games being played (perhaps I missed or added a few who were/weren't Code S I guessed some of them). All games from 2012 and including only games played on LAN. 32 games won, 33 games lost. So just under a 50% win rate. Obviously that's actually really good because it's against the best players in the world. My point is that if he was like Nestea and played against this player pool exclusively he wouldn't look nearly as dominant as he does when he only plays in foreign tournament (which IPL and MLG aside) always feature far inferior player pools to Code S. He also does far, far better vs Protoss than Terran/Zerg. The bolded are games from the last three months which would give him 25 wins and 21 losses. Good win rate, nothing out of this world amazing though. | ||
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yeint
Estonia2329 Posts
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Rhaegar_tar
France847 Posts
On July 21 2012 17:33 Random_Guy09 wrote: Too bad Stephano cant answer the immortal push that destroy's him when any protoss with insane micro goes for it and completely destroy's him. Wait for GSL and see Code S protoss's destroy him with pretty much every timing in the book. Get off of your high horse. Lol, he already destroyed every code S protoss player who is relevant in PvZ...and literally destroyed. | ||
Olli
Austria24417 Posts
On July 21 2012 20:00 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote: vs MC 4-2 vs Hero 3-1 vs MKP 1-2 vs Ganzi 2-0 vs Polt 2-1 vs Squirtle 3-1 vs MC 2-3 vs Parting 2-0 vs Violet 2-0 vs Violet 0-2 vs Symbol 0-2 vs MC 2-1 vs MMA 0-2 vs Nestea 1-2 vs MKP 1-2 vs Polt 1-2 vs Polt 5-2 vs Polt 1-4 vs MC 0-2 vs MKP 0-2 I included players who were Code S at the time of the games being played (perhaps I missed or added a few who were/weren't Code S I guessed some of them). All games from 2012 and including only games played on LAN. 32 games won, 33 games lost. So just under a 50% win rate. Obviously that's actually really good because it's against the best players in the world. My point is that if he was like Nestea and played against this player pool exclusively he wouldn't look nearly as dominant as he does when he only plays in foreign tournament (which IPL and MLG aside) always feature far inferior player pools to Code S. He also does far, far better vs Protoss than Terran/Zerg. The bolded are games from the last three months which would give him 25 wins and 21 losses. Good win rate, nothing out of this world amazing though. HerO also forgot warpgate and still beat Stephano in the EGMC ace match. So he's by no means "unreal". Sure he's good but he's never played anything in Korea. We'll see how he's gonna do in GSTL. I'm also really interested in why he's not playing Code S even though he could. I think I've got an idea why but yeah. | ||
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Panicc
Germany163 Posts
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