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TheSwedishFan
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden608 Posts
July 15 2012 02:39 GMT
#8081
Fuck, Ret really needs to win a major title. He's been up there so many times... COMONE RET!!!
"Suck it" - Kennigit 2012
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
July 15 2012 02:39 GMT
#8082
Sad for Ret

He never gets to finish a tournament
illumn
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand437 Posts
July 15 2012 02:39 GMT
#8083
On July 15 2012 11:38 Raidern wrote:
erm I'm a noob so this is not criticism, but a legit doubt. I noticed that in the last two games Ret had a 25-30 (avg) pop advantage for most of the game but he always seemed to have less units and his economy didn't seem to be better than Alicia's. Why is that?


Roaches inflate population. e.g. a roach cost about half as much as a stalker but has the same supply (2).
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
July 15 2012 02:39 GMT
#8084
On July 15 2012 11:38 Raidern wrote:
erm I'm a noob so this is not criticism, but a legit doubt. I noticed that in the last two games Ret had a 25-30 (avg) pop advantage for most of the game but he always seemed to have less units and his economy didn't seem to be better than Alicia's. Why is that?


Because Ret's army is roach heavy, and roaches cost 2 supply
Undefeated TL Tecmo Super Bowl League Champion
TheSir
Profile Joined February 2012
1830 Posts
July 15 2012 02:39 GMT
#8085
On July 15 2012 11:37 FidoDido wrote:
Ret forgot he had burrow. Alicia didn't even have 1 obs out.


Ret is just loosing it, you could see this one coming after the 2-2 game. One mistake and is Ret is on tilt now.
JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
July 15 2012 02:39 GMT
#8086
On July 15 2012 11:38 Raidern wrote:
erm I'm a noob so this is not criticism, but a legit doubt. I noticed that in the last two games Ret had a 25-30 (avg) pop advantage for most of the game but he always seemed to have less units and his economy didn't seem to be better than Alicia's. Why is that?


Roaches aren't that supply effective. They take up a lot of it and Ret probably had more drones.
"Right on" - Morrow
boxturtle
Profile Joined December 2011
United States224 Posts
July 15 2012 02:39 GMT
#8087
Come on Alicia fuck this Zerg up. I'm not watching another ZvZ final after GESL.
Roachu
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden692 Posts
July 15 2012 02:40 GMT
#8088
On July 15 2012 11:38 Raidern wrote:
erm I'm a noob so this is not criticism, but a legit doubt. I noticed that in the last two games Ret had a 25-30 (avg) pop advantage for most of the game but he always seemed to have less units and his economy didn't seem to be better than Alicia's. Why is that?

Probably because most zerg units are less valuable per supply compared to protoss.
Don't be asshats
Toadvine
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland2234 Posts
July 15 2012 02:40 GMT
#8089
Dual Sight didn't work out, time for Bel'shir!
"There are always some Eskimos ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves." - S.J.Lec
Dandy_Moustachu
Profile Joined July 2010
France422 Posts
July 15 2012 02:40 GMT
#8090
On July 15 2012 11:38 Raidern wrote:
erm I'm a noob so this is not criticism, but a legit doubt. I noticed that in the last two games Ret had a 25-30 (avg) pop advantage for most of the game but he always seemed to have less units and his economy didn't seem to be better than Alicia's. Why is that?


Because Roaches are super supply ineffective ^^
Pif Paf Pouf
Barez
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada123 Posts
July 15 2012 02:40 GMT
#8091
On July 15 2012 11:37 TheDougler wrote:
Dammit... This, in my opinion would be the worst possible finals/third place MC will manhandle Ret, and Stephano will work over Alicia.

Whereas sure, Stephano would still be favored against Ret, but MC vs Alicia could be close at least! Though BO7 can be a bit much for PvP sometimes...



it isnt over yet,gve ret some slack. zvz finals incoming!!
Far Beyond Driven
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
July 15 2012 02:40 GMT
#8092
Ret needs to calm down and play like he did the first 2 maps.
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
OtoshimonoU
Profile Joined December 2011
United States509 Posts
July 15 2012 02:40 GMT
#8093
On July 15 2012 11:40 Toadvine wrote:
Dual Sight didn't work out, time for Bel'shir!


Does NASL want to say something? :p
God Young ho
Nimic
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1360 Posts
July 15 2012 02:40 GMT
#8094
On July 15 2012 11:14 Nimic wrote:
Ret is doing the Ret. He's going to lose 4-2 now.


Yeah.
Geos13
Profile Joined May 2011
437 Posts
July 15 2012 02:40 GMT
#8095
On July 15 2012 11:38 Raidern wrote:
erm I'm a noob so this is not criticism, but a legit doubt. I noticed that in the last two games Ret had a 25-30 (avg) pop advantage for most of the game but he always seemed to have less units and his economy didn't seem to be better than Alicia's. Why is that?


He has more workers so his army seems small despite being up in supply. Also roaches are balanced by being cheap in cost but expensive in supply.
Raidern
Profile Joined February 2005
Brazil3811 Posts
July 15 2012 02:40 GMT
#8096
Thanks for replying.
For the Swarm!
Smurphy
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States374 Posts
July 15 2012 02:41 GMT
#8097
On July 15 2012 11:38 Raidern wrote:
erm I'm a noob so this is not criticism, but a legit doubt. I noticed that in the last two games Ret had a 25-30 (avg) pop advantage for most of the game but he always seemed to have less units and his economy didn't seem to be better than Alicia's. Why is that?


Roaches cost 75 Minerals 25 Gas and take up 2 Supply.
Stalkers cost 125 Minerals 50 Gas and take up 2 Supply.

Roaches are extremely supply inefficient. A very broad and general rule of thumb is to consider roach "1" supply. So if a Zerg has 150 Supply and 30 Roaches then consider the Zerg as having 120 Supply. Once again -- this is a very broad and very general rule of thumb and not intended to be perfectly accurate.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 15 2012 02:41 GMT
#8098
ret lost dual sight >.< Now he's in trouble.
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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
July 15 2012 02:41 GMT
#8099
On July 15 2012 11:40 OtoshimonoU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 11:40 Toadvine wrote:
Dual Sight didn't work out, time for Bel'shir!


Does NASL want to say something? :p


Well, atleast they didn't put Testbug.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
July 15 2012 02:41 GMT
#8100
On July 15 2012 11:39 TheSir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 11:37 FidoDido wrote:
Ret forgot he had burrow. Alicia didn't even have 1 obs out.


Ret is just loosing it, you could see this one coming after the 2-2 game. One mistake and is Ret is on tilt now.

...I can never know when it's intentional nowadays


also Alicia deserves the finals more than Ret regardless of tilt or not imo
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