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SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
July 11 2012 23:33 GMT
#1081
the remix of the song they are playing is even more nice than the ones on youtube.
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00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
July 11 2012 23:33 GMT
#1082
On July 12 2012 08:31 johnnywup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 08:30 MrSalamandra wrote:
Major qualifies!

And so does Fraer!

haha fraer didn't care anyways then. i dont think major would have qualified if he didn't win, so that's good for both players!

lol, major was leading the points ranking ...
And they played for seeding and 100$.
polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
July 11 2012 23:33 GMT
#1083
woohoo for Princess/Cuteangel/WinDy/Britney/Oprah/Major/ Juan!!!
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8304 Posts
July 11 2012 23:33 GMT
#1084
On July 12 2012 08:28 jnd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 08:03 hitpoint wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:58 sAsImre wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:56 hitpoint wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:54 sAsImre wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:51 hitpoint wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:50 sAsImre wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:48 Xoronius wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:46 sAsImre wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:45 Lylat wrote:
So much good players missing for this TSL :/


who as far as EU/NA is concerned? Stephano and ?

HuK, Grubby, Dimaga, Lucifronn, Socke, Sheth, Morrow for example.


Huk, Morrow and Grubby are only hype and doesn't deserve a spot either for their play or their results lately, and you can in a certain extent say the same for Sheth and Dimaga. It's unfortunate for Lucifron and Socke but still they're not so much better than most of the ppl who qualified.


I was going to quote your last post and say this is where I list good players and you say how bad/overrated they are. I gave you the benefit of the doubt though...

Ignoring all the rest of things that you're wrong about. Saying Huk is all hype is absurd. Pretty sure he has more accomplishments in major tournaments than any other foreigner.


What's are huk accomplishment in 2012? and Naniwa has a better record than him now I think. (highly subjective too)


2012-03-25 4th 2012 MLG Winter Championship 2 : 4 Heart $ 5,500
2012-02-26 3rd 2012 MLG Winter Arena 0 : 2 DongRaeGu $ 3,600

And that's pretty fucking good. Regardless, why do only 2012 results matter?


because you've to be good now to qualify, not a year ago. Or Bitbybit would be a huge favorite ><


Bitbybit was 2 years ago.

Saying someone is all hype and then ignoring tournament results is ridiculous, and asking for only recent results is just what people do when they want to shit on a good player who has won too much stuff in the past. There are people qualified who haven't won anything, but according to you Huk and others are overrated and not worthy of qualification because he's ONLY gotten 3rd and 4th in MLG this year.

He played well in MLG Winter but then when you look at MLG Spring:
  • Arena 1: Finished last
  • Arena 2: Eliminated in Round 2
  • Spring Champs: Eliminated after two rounds (was seeded into open bracket R4)


Then he isn't getting far in the TSL4 Qualifiers. So people who expect him to place in the top 8 are basing the expectations on earlier performance (which was indeed on top), but one must consider the recent performance too, same for these new and upcoming players. In this quite large and very competitive SC2 scene it takes a little to drop below many other great skilled players and you must work very hard to get back there.

In the end the present performance is all that matters.



Keep spewing your bullshit. He's one of three foreigners to make it to top eight of NASL, and had to beat ganzi in a best of five to get there
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Gonff
Profile Joined May 2010
United States686 Posts
July 11 2012 23:33 GMT
#1085
Best finals of all the NA/EU qualifiers. Entertaining play by both players and entertaining casting from Wheat and especially Axeltoss. Hell yeah can't wait for the big show.
Savern101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom859 Posts
July 11 2012 23:33 GMT
#1086
Yay! Jonnyrecco qualified! UK Fighting! Hope a bigger team picks him up soon
EG.DeMusliM/d.BlinG/UK Fighting!
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 11 2012 23:34 GMT
#1087
On July 12 2012 08:32 MrSalamandra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 08:31 johnnywup wrote:
On July 12 2012 08:30 MrSalamandra wrote:
Major qualifies!

And so does Fraer!

haha fraer didn't care anyways then. i dont think major would have qualified if he didn't win, so that's good for both players!


I don't think Major cared either, he was actually first in points.

You get better seeding for the tournament if you win a qualifier than if you just get in by points according to Hot_bid earlier in the thread
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
July 11 2012 23:34 GMT
#1088
nice attack by major, wasn't sure he was going to break.
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wongfeihung
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States763 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 18:56:39
July 11 2012 23:34 GMT
#1089
Sakray
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
France2198 Posts
July 11 2012 23:35 GMT
#1090
Oh god, not Major...
vilg
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark413 Posts
July 11 2012 23:35 GMT
#1091
Not a single NA player qualified, right? Pretty disappointing.
Dekkers
Profile Joined February 2012
France315 Posts
July 11 2012 23:36 GMT
#1092
On July 12 2012 08:34 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 08:32 MrSalamandra wrote:
On July 12 2012 08:31 johnnywup wrote:
On July 12 2012 08:30 MrSalamandra wrote:
Major qualifies!

And so does Fraer!

haha fraer didn't care anyways then. i dont think major would have qualified if he didn't win, so that's good for both players!


I don't think Major cared either, he was actually first in points.

You get better seeding for the tournament if you win a qualifier than if you just get in by points according to Hot_bid earlier in the thread


Also 100 bucks for the winner, only 50 for the other finalist.

Not that much but always good to take.
hitpoint
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1511 Posts
July 11 2012 23:36 GMT
#1093
On July 12 2012 08:35 vilg wrote:
Not a single NA player qualified, right? Pretty disappointing.


Not sure if serious. Major..
It's spelled LOSE not LOOSE.
legaton
Profile Joined December 2010
France1763 Posts
July 11 2012 23:36 GMT
#1094
On July 12 2012 08:35 vilg wrote:
Not a single NA player qualified, right? Pretty disappointing.


Mexico is in North America...

Also, Select.
No GG, No Skill - Jaedong <3
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
July 11 2012 23:36 GMT
#1095
On July 12 2012 08:33 polyphonyEX wrote:
woohoo for Princess/Cuteangel/WinDy/Britney/Oprah/Major/ Juan!!!


/Memory/Kitty/Terran/520 ^^

But he did play quite well in the qualifiers so I'm excited to see how he does in the main event.
jnd
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Czech Republic915 Posts
July 11 2012 23:36 GMT
#1096
On July 12 2012 08:32 hitpoint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 08:28 jnd wrote:
On July 12 2012 08:03 hitpoint wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:58 sAsImre wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:56 hitpoint wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:54 sAsImre wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:51 hitpoint wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:50 sAsImre wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:48 Xoronius wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:46 sAsImre wrote:
[quote]

who as far as EU/NA is concerned? Stephano and ?

HuK, Grubby, Dimaga, Lucifronn, Socke, Sheth, Morrow for example.


Huk, Morrow and Grubby are only hype and doesn't deserve a spot either for their play or their results lately, and you can in a certain extent say the same for Sheth and Dimaga. It's unfortunate for Lucifron and Socke but still they're not so much better than most of the ppl who qualified.


I was going to quote your last post and say this is where I list good players and you say how bad/overrated they are. I gave you the benefit of the doubt though...

Ignoring all the rest of things that you're wrong about. Saying Huk is all hype is absurd. Pretty sure he has more accomplishments in major tournaments than any other foreigner.


What's are huk accomplishment in 2012? and Naniwa has a better record than him now I think. (highly subjective too)


2012-03-25 4th 2012 MLG Winter Championship 2 : 4 Heart $ 5,500
2012-02-26 3rd 2012 MLG Winter Arena 0 : 2 DongRaeGu $ 3,600

And that's pretty fucking good. Regardless, why do only 2012 results matter?


because you've to be good now to qualify, not a year ago. Or Bitbybit would be a huge favorite ><


Bitbybit was 2 years ago.

Saying someone is all hype and then ignoring tournament results is ridiculous, and asking for only recent results is just what people do when they want to shit on a good player who has won too much stuff in the past. There are people qualified who haven't won anything, but according to you Huk and others are overrated and not worthy of qualification because he's ONLY gotten 3rd and 4th in MLG this year.

He played well in MLG Winter but then when you look at MLG Spring:
  • Arena 1: Finished last
  • Arena 2: Eliminated in Round 2
  • Spring Champs: Eliminated after two rounds (was seeded into open bracket R4)


Then he isn't getting far in the TSL4 Qualifiers. So people who expect him to place in the top 8 are basing the expectations on earlier performance (which was indeed on top), but one must consider the recent performance too, same for these new and upcoming players. In this quite large and very competitive SC2 scene it takes a little to drop below many other great skilled players and you must work very hard to get back there.

In the end the present performance is all that matters.


Playing poorly in 2 tournaments means nothing. As for the qualifiers, Huk got eliminated mostly in Bo1's. Your point is that he's actually dropped so far in skill that he couldn't have qualified? Do you really believe that? If you do, then I don;t know what more to say.

Of course you don't have more to say because there is no other explanation than he's just throwing the games for no reason (and that would be kinda stupid). There are 10 EU/NA qualifiers so some "unlucky" Bo1 eliminations can be rectified later. If he can't go through any of them, then I guess we must consider the other players who managed to go through playing better now.
Team 8 BaBy will be the next Terran Bonjwa in HoTS | HSC V, the best tournament in 2012 | GD Studio #1 no fluff esports show
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 23:38:01
July 11 2012 23:37 GMT
#1097
On July 12 2012 08:33 polyphonyEX wrote:
woohoo for Princess/Cuteangel/WinDy/Britney/Oprah/Major/ Juan!!!


Also Memory, Kitty, 520 and Terran! :D
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
MrSalamandra
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom412 Posts
July 11 2012 23:37 GMT
#1098
On July 12 2012 08:34 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 08:32 MrSalamandra wrote:
On July 12 2012 08:31 johnnywup wrote:
On July 12 2012 08:30 MrSalamandra wrote:
Major qualifies!

And so does Fraer!

haha fraer didn't care anyways then. i dont think major would have qualified if he didn't win, so that's good for both players!


I don't think Major cared either, he was actually first in points.

You get better seeding for the tournament if you win a qualifier than if you just get in by points according to Hot_bid earlier in the thread


Oh yeah. Well, maybe he cared somewhat then. Seeding isn't the most important thing, I'm not even sure how they'll do their seeding... as all the qualifier winners should be equivalent to each other, the ones who qualified by points could be ranked... but how does EU/NA compare to KR? Are Thorzain/Naniwa/Kas seeded #1/2/3? Hell, in NASL 1 being seeded first was terrible.
sereniity
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Sweden1159 Posts
July 11 2012 23:38 GMT
#1099
On July 12 2012 08:32 hitpoint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 08:28 jnd wrote:
On July 12 2012 08:03 hitpoint wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:58 sAsImre wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:56 hitpoint wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:54 sAsImre wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:51 hitpoint wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:50 sAsImre wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:48 Xoronius wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:46 sAsImre wrote:
[quote]

who as far as EU/NA is concerned? Stephano and ?

HuK, Grubby, Dimaga, Lucifronn, Socke, Sheth, Morrow for example.


Huk, Morrow and Grubby are only hype and doesn't deserve a spot either for their play or their results lately, and you can in a certain extent say the same for Sheth and Dimaga. It's unfortunate for Lucifron and Socke but still they're not so much better than most of the ppl who qualified.


I was going to quote your last post and say this is where I list good players and you say how bad/overrated they are. I gave you the benefit of the doubt though...

Ignoring all the rest of things that you're wrong about. Saying Huk is all hype is absurd. Pretty sure he has more accomplishments in major tournaments than any other foreigner.


What's are huk accomplishment in 2012? and Naniwa has a better record than him now I think. (highly subjective too)


2012-03-25 4th 2012 MLG Winter Championship 2 : 4 Heart $ 5,500
2012-02-26 3rd 2012 MLG Winter Arena 0 : 2 DongRaeGu $ 3,600

And that's pretty fucking good. Regardless, why do only 2012 results matter?


because you've to be good now to qualify, not a year ago. Or Bitbybit would be a huge favorite ><


Bitbybit was 2 years ago.

Saying someone is all hype and then ignoring tournament results is ridiculous, and asking for only recent results is just what people do when they want to shit on a good player who has won too much stuff in the past. There are people qualified who haven't won anything, but according to you Huk and others are overrated and not worthy of qualification because he's ONLY gotten 3rd and 4th in MLG this year.

He played well in MLG Winter but then when you look at MLG Spring:
  • Arena 1: Finished last
  • Arena 2: Eliminated in Round 2
  • Spring Champs: Eliminated after two rounds (was seeded into open bracket R4)


Then he isn't getting far in the TSL4 Qualifiers. So people who expect him to place in the top 8 are basing the expectations on earlier performance (which was indeed on top), but one must consider the recent performance too, same for these new and upcoming players. In this quite large and very competitive SC2 scene it takes a little to drop below many other great skilled players and you must work very hard to get back there.

In the end the present performance is all that matters.


Playing poorly in 2 tournaments means nothing. As for the qualifiers, Huk got eliminated mostly in Bo1's. Your point is that he's actually dropped so far in skill that he couldn't have qualified? Do you really believe that? If you do, then I don;t know what more to say.


If you don't think HuK is playing far worse than he used to then there's no point in arguing with you.
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SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
July 11 2012 23:38 GMT
#1100
so when is this going to continue?
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