• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:30
CEST 13:30
KST 20:30
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 1 - Final Week6[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall12HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0
Community News
Esports World Cup 2025 - Brackets Revealed12Weekly Cups (July 7-13): Classic continues to roll4Team TLMC #5 - Submission extension3Firefly given lifetime ban by ESIC following match-fixing investigation17$25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced7
StarCraft 2
General
RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread Esports World Cup 2025 - Brackets Revealed Who will win EWC 2025? The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Weekly Cups (July 7-13): Classic continues to roll
Tourneys
FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo) WardiTV Mondays Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune Mutation # 481 Fear and Lava Mutation # 480 Moths to the Flame Mutation # 479 Worn Out Welcome
Brood War
General
Flash Announces (and Retracts) Hiatus From ASL BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Starcraft in widescreen A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Cosmonarchy Pro Showmatches CSL Xiamen International Invitational [BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile CCLP - Command & Conquer League Project The PlayStation 5
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative Summer Games Done Quick 2025! Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 2024 - 2025 Football Thread NBA General Discussion NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Men Take Risks, Women Win Ga…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 745 users

[TSL4] Qualifier 14 - EU/NA #10 - Page 55

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
1137 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 53 54 55 56 57 Next
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
July 11 2012 23:33 GMT
#1081
the remix of the song they are playing is even more nice than the ones on youtube.
http://fragbite.se/user/117868/silsol since 2006 http://www.reddit.com/u/silsol77
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
July 11 2012 23:33 GMT
#1082
On July 12 2012 08:31 johnnywup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 08:30 MrSalamandra wrote:
Major qualifies!

And so does Fraer!

haha fraer didn't care anyways then. i dont think major would have qualified if he didn't win, so that's good for both players!

lol, major was leading the points ranking ...
And they played for seeding and 100$.
polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
July 11 2012 23:33 GMT
#1083
woohoo for Princess/Cuteangel/WinDy/Britney/Oprah/Major/ Juan!!!
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8304 Posts
July 11 2012 23:33 GMT
#1084
On July 12 2012 08:28 jnd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 08:03 hitpoint wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:58 sAsImre wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:56 hitpoint wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:54 sAsImre wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:51 hitpoint wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:50 sAsImre wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:48 Xoronius wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:46 sAsImre wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:45 Lylat wrote:
So much good players missing for this TSL :/


who as far as EU/NA is concerned? Stephano and ?

HuK, Grubby, Dimaga, Lucifronn, Socke, Sheth, Morrow for example.


Huk, Morrow and Grubby are only hype and doesn't deserve a spot either for their play or their results lately, and you can in a certain extent say the same for Sheth and Dimaga. It's unfortunate for Lucifron and Socke but still they're not so much better than most of the ppl who qualified.


I was going to quote your last post and say this is where I list good players and you say how bad/overrated they are. I gave you the benefit of the doubt though...

Ignoring all the rest of things that you're wrong about. Saying Huk is all hype is absurd. Pretty sure he has more accomplishments in major tournaments than any other foreigner.


What's are huk accomplishment in 2012? and Naniwa has a better record than him now I think. (highly subjective too)


2012-03-25 4th 2012 MLG Winter Championship 2 : 4 Heart $ 5,500
2012-02-26 3rd 2012 MLG Winter Arena 0 : 2 DongRaeGu $ 3,600

And that's pretty fucking good. Regardless, why do only 2012 results matter?


because you've to be good now to qualify, not a year ago. Or Bitbybit would be a huge favorite ><


Bitbybit was 2 years ago.

Saying someone is all hype and then ignoring tournament results is ridiculous, and asking for only recent results is just what people do when they want to shit on a good player who has won too much stuff in the past. There are people qualified who haven't won anything, but according to you Huk and others are overrated and not worthy of qualification because he's ONLY gotten 3rd and 4th in MLG this year.

He played well in MLG Winter but then when you look at MLG Spring:
  • Arena 1: Finished last
  • Arena 2: Eliminated in Round 2
  • Spring Champs: Eliminated after two rounds (was seeded into open bracket R4)


Then he isn't getting far in the TSL4 Qualifiers. So people who expect him to place in the top 8 are basing the expectations on earlier performance (which was indeed on top), but one must consider the recent performance too, same for these new and upcoming players. In this quite large and very competitive SC2 scene it takes a little to drop below many other great skilled players and you must work very hard to get back there.

In the end the present performance is all that matters.



Keep spewing your bullshit. He's one of three foreigners to make it to top eight of NASL, and had to beat ganzi in a best of five to get there
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Gonff
Profile Joined May 2010
United States686 Posts
July 11 2012 23:33 GMT
#1085
Best finals of all the NA/EU qualifiers. Entertaining play by both players and entertaining casting from Wheat and especially Axeltoss. Hell yeah can't wait for the big show.
Savern101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom859 Posts
July 11 2012 23:33 GMT
#1086
Yay! Jonnyrecco qualified! UK Fighting! Hope a bigger team picks him up soon
EG.DeMusliM/d.BlinG/UK Fighting!
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 11 2012 23:34 GMT
#1087
On July 12 2012 08:32 MrSalamandra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 08:31 johnnywup wrote:
On July 12 2012 08:30 MrSalamandra wrote:
Major qualifies!

And so does Fraer!

haha fraer didn't care anyways then. i dont think major would have qualified if he didn't win, so that's good for both players!


I don't think Major cared either, he was actually first in points.

You get better seeding for the tournament if you win a qualifier than if you just get in by points according to Hot_bid earlier in the thread
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
July 11 2012 23:34 GMT
#1088
nice attack by major, wasn't sure he was going to break.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
wongfeihung
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States763 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 18:56:39
July 11 2012 23:34 GMT
#1089
Sakray
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
France2198 Posts
July 11 2012 23:35 GMT
#1090
Oh god, not Major...
vilg
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark413 Posts
July 11 2012 23:35 GMT
#1091
Not a single NA player qualified, right? Pretty disappointing.
Dekkers
Profile Joined February 2012
France315 Posts
July 11 2012 23:36 GMT
#1092
On July 12 2012 08:34 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 08:32 MrSalamandra wrote:
On July 12 2012 08:31 johnnywup wrote:
On July 12 2012 08:30 MrSalamandra wrote:
Major qualifies!

And so does Fraer!

haha fraer didn't care anyways then. i dont think major would have qualified if he didn't win, so that's good for both players!


I don't think Major cared either, he was actually first in points.

You get better seeding for the tournament if you win a qualifier than if you just get in by points according to Hot_bid earlier in the thread


Also 100 bucks for the winner, only 50 for the other finalist.

Not that much but always good to take.
hitpoint
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1511 Posts
July 11 2012 23:36 GMT
#1093
On July 12 2012 08:35 vilg wrote:
Not a single NA player qualified, right? Pretty disappointing.


Not sure if serious. Major..
It's spelled LOSE not LOOSE.
legaton
Profile Joined December 2010
France1763 Posts
July 11 2012 23:36 GMT
#1094
On July 12 2012 08:35 vilg wrote:
Not a single NA player qualified, right? Pretty disappointing.


Mexico is in North America...

Also, Select.
No GG, No Skill - Jaedong <3
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
July 11 2012 23:36 GMT
#1095
On July 12 2012 08:33 polyphonyEX wrote:
woohoo for Princess/Cuteangel/WinDy/Britney/Oprah/Major/ Juan!!!


/Memory/Kitty/Terran/520 ^^

But he did play quite well in the qualifiers so I'm excited to see how he does in the main event.
jnd
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Czech Republic915 Posts
July 11 2012 23:36 GMT
#1096
On July 12 2012 08:32 hitpoint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 08:28 jnd wrote:
On July 12 2012 08:03 hitpoint wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:58 sAsImre wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:56 hitpoint wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:54 sAsImre wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:51 hitpoint wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:50 sAsImre wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:48 Xoronius wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:46 sAsImre wrote:
[quote]

who as far as EU/NA is concerned? Stephano and ?

HuK, Grubby, Dimaga, Lucifronn, Socke, Sheth, Morrow for example.


Huk, Morrow and Grubby are only hype and doesn't deserve a spot either for their play or their results lately, and you can in a certain extent say the same for Sheth and Dimaga. It's unfortunate for Lucifron and Socke but still they're not so much better than most of the ppl who qualified.


I was going to quote your last post and say this is where I list good players and you say how bad/overrated they are. I gave you the benefit of the doubt though...

Ignoring all the rest of things that you're wrong about. Saying Huk is all hype is absurd. Pretty sure he has more accomplishments in major tournaments than any other foreigner.


What's are huk accomplishment in 2012? and Naniwa has a better record than him now I think. (highly subjective too)


2012-03-25 4th 2012 MLG Winter Championship 2 : 4 Heart $ 5,500
2012-02-26 3rd 2012 MLG Winter Arena 0 : 2 DongRaeGu $ 3,600

And that's pretty fucking good. Regardless, why do only 2012 results matter?


because you've to be good now to qualify, not a year ago. Or Bitbybit would be a huge favorite ><


Bitbybit was 2 years ago.

Saying someone is all hype and then ignoring tournament results is ridiculous, and asking for only recent results is just what people do when they want to shit on a good player who has won too much stuff in the past. There are people qualified who haven't won anything, but according to you Huk and others are overrated and not worthy of qualification because he's ONLY gotten 3rd and 4th in MLG this year.

He played well in MLG Winter but then when you look at MLG Spring:
  • Arena 1: Finished last
  • Arena 2: Eliminated in Round 2
  • Spring Champs: Eliminated after two rounds (was seeded into open bracket R4)


Then he isn't getting far in the TSL4 Qualifiers. So people who expect him to place in the top 8 are basing the expectations on earlier performance (which was indeed on top), but one must consider the recent performance too, same for these new and upcoming players. In this quite large and very competitive SC2 scene it takes a little to drop below many other great skilled players and you must work very hard to get back there.

In the end the present performance is all that matters.


Playing poorly in 2 tournaments means nothing. As for the qualifiers, Huk got eliminated mostly in Bo1's. Your point is that he's actually dropped so far in skill that he couldn't have qualified? Do you really believe that? If you do, then I don;t know what more to say.

Of course you don't have more to say because there is no other explanation than he's just throwing the games for no reason (and that would be kinda stupid). There are 10 EU/NA qualifiers so some "unlucky" Bo1 eliminations can be rectified later. If he can't go through any of them, then I guess we must consider the other players who managed to go through playing better now.
Team 8 BaBy will be the next Terran Bonjwa in HoTS | HSC V, the best tournament in 2012 | GD Studio #1 no fluff esports show
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 23:38:01
July 11 2012 23:37 GMT
#1097
On July 12 2012 08:33 polyphonyEX wrote:
woohoo for Princess/Cuteangel/WinDy/Britney/Oprah/Major/ Juan!!!


Also Memory, Kitty, 520 and Terran! :D
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
MrSalamandra
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom412 Posts
July 11 2012 23:37 GMT
#1098
On July 12 2012 08:34 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 08:32 MrSalamandra wrote:
On July 12 2012 08:31 johnnywup wrote:
On July 12 2012 08:30 MrSalamandra wrote:
Major qualifies!

And so does Fraer!

haha fraer didn't care anyways then. i dont think major would have qualified if he didn't win, so that's good for both players!


I don't think Major cared either, he was actually first in points.

You get better seeding for the tournament if you win a qualifier than if you just get in by points according to Hot_bid earlier in the thread


Oh yeah. Well, maybe he cared somewhat then. Seeding isn't the most important thing, I'm not even sure how they'll do their seeding... as all the qualifier winners should be equivalent to each other, the ones who qualified by points could be ranked... but how does EU/NA compare to KR? Are Thorzain/Naniwa/Kas seeded #1/2/3? Hell, in NASL 1 being seeded first was terrible.
sereniity
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Sweden1159 Posts
July 11 2012 23:38 GMT
#1099
On July 12 2012 08:32 hitpoint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 08:28 jnd wrote:
On July 12 2012 08:03 hitpoint wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:58 sAsImre wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:56 hitpoint wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:54 sAsImre wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:51 hitpoint wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:50 sAsImre wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:48 Xoronius wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:46 sAsImre wrote:
[quote]

who as far as EU/NA is concerned? Stephano and ?

HuK, Grubby, Dimaga, Lucifronn, Socke, Sheth, Morrow for example.


Huk, Morrow and Grubby are only hype and doesn't deserve a spot either for their play or their results lately, and you can in a certain extent say the same for Sheth and Dimaga. It's unfortunate for Lucifron and Socke but still they're not so much better than most of the ppl who qualified.


I was going to quote your last post and say this is where I list good players and you say how bad/overrated they are. I gave you the benefit of the doubt though...

Ignoring all the rest of things that you're wrong about. Saying Huk is all hype is absurd. Pretty sure he has more accomplishments in major tournaments than any other foreigner.


What's are huk accomplishment in 2012? and Naniwa has a better record than him now I think. (highly subjective too)


2012-03-25 4th 2012 MLG Winter Championship 2 : 4 Heart $ 5,500
2012-02-26 3rd 2012 MLG Winter Arena 0 : 2 DongRaeGu $ 3,600

And that's pretty fucking good. Regardless, why do only 2012 results matter?


because you've to be good now to qualify, not a year ago. Or Bitbybit would be a huge favorite ><


Bitbybit was 2 years ago.

Saying someone is all hype and then ignoring tournament results is ridiculous, and asking for only recent results is just what people do when they want to shit on a good player who has won too much stuff in the past. There are people qualified who haven't won anything, but according to you Huk and others are overrated and not worthy of qualification because he's ONLY gotten 3rd and 4th in MLG this year.

He played well in MLG Winter but then when you look at MLG Spring:
  • Arena 1: Finished last
  • Arena 2: Eliminated in Round 2
  • Spring Champs: Eliminated after two rounds (was seeded into open bracket R4)


Then he isn't getting far in the TSL4 Qualifiers. So people who expect him to place in the top 8 are basing the expectations on earlier performance (which was indeed on top), but one must consider the recent performance too, same for these new and upcoming players. In this quite large and very competitive SC2 scene it takes a little to drop below many other great skilled players and you must work very hard to get back there.

In the end the present performance is all that matters.


Playing poorly in 2 tournaments means nothing. As for the qualifiers, Huk got eliminated mostly in Bo1's. Your point is that he's actually dropped so far in skill that he couldn't have qualified? Do you really believe that? If you do, then I don;t know what more to say.


If you don't think HuK is playing far worse than he used to then there's no point in arguing with you.
"I am Day9, Holy shit!"
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
July 11 2012 23:38 GMT
#1100
so when is this going to continue?
http://fragbite.se/user/117868/silsol since 2006 http://www.reddit.com/u/silsol77
Prev 1 53 54 55 56 57 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 31m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Trikslyr31
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 26252
BeSt 4281
Mini 1537
Pusan 914
Stork 632
EffOrt 339
Zeus 333
PianO 281
Last 217
ToSsGirL 118
[ Show more ]
Barracks 100
zelot 65
JulyZerg 54
Aegong 36
Sharp 27
Sacsri 25
GoRush 19
Icarus 16
IntoTheRainbow 13
Noble 13
SilentControl 13
scan(afreeca) 10
Hm[arnc] 8
Bale 7
sSak 6
Rush 0
Britney 0
Dota 2
Gorgc7017
singsing2155
XaKoH 356
XcaliburYe318
Counter-Strike
shoxiejesuss878
x6flipin511
sgares243
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King163
Other Games
gofns11989
B2W.Neo737
DeMusliM308
Pyrionflax113
SortOf109
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick3347
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 8
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH427
• Hinosc 17
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4h 31m
Replay Cast
12h 31m
The PondCast
22h 31m
OSC
1d 1h
WardiTV European League
1d 4h
Replay Cast
1d 12h
Epic.LAN
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
Epic.LAN
3 days
CSO Contender
3 days
[ Show More ]
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
3 days
Bonyth vs Sziky
Dewalt vs Hawk
Hawk vs QiaoGege
Sziky vs Dewalt
Mihu vs Bonyth
Zhanhun vs QiaoGege
QiaoGege vs Fengzi
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
Online Event
4 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
4 days
Bonyth vs Zhanhun
Dewalt vs Mihu
Hawk vs Sziky
Sziky vs QiaoGege
Mihu vs Hawk
Zhanhun vs Dewalt
Fengzi vs Bonyth
Esports World Cup
5 days
ByuN vs Astrea
Lambo vs HeRoMaRinE
Clem vs TBD
Solar vs Zoun
SHIN vs Reynor
Maru vs TriGGeR
herO vs Lancer
Cure vs ShoWTimE
Esports World Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
RSL Revival: Season 1
Murky Cup #2

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL20 Non-Korean Championship
Championship of Russia 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters

Upcoming

CSL Xiamen Invitational
CSL Xiamen Invitational: ShowMatche
2025 ACS Season 2
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
K-Championship
RSL Revival: Season 2
SEL Season 2 Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
FEL Cracov 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
Underdog Cup #2
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.