• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:04
CEST 07:04
KST 14:04
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting3[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent6Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On9Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4)5
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 6-12): Four star herO65.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8)67Weekly Cups (Sept 29-Oct 5): MaxPax triples up3PartinG joins SteamerZone, returns to SC2 competition325.0.15 Balance Patch Notes (Live version)119
StarCraft 2
General
TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting Weekly Cups (Oct 6-12): Four star herO PartinG joins SteamerZone, returns to SC2 competition 5.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8) IP For new Brazil servers for NA Players
Tourneys
WardiTV Mondays SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales! SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment Mutation # 493 Quick Killers Mutation # 492 Get Out More
Brood War
General
Whose hotkey signature is this? BSL Season 21 BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Any rep analyzer that shows resources situation? BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL20] Semifinal B [ASL20] Semifinal A [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Ro8 Day 4
Strategy
Current Meta BW - ajfirecracker Strategy & Training Siegecraft - a new perspective TvZ Theorycraft - Improving on State of the Art
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread ZeroSpace Megathread Dawn of War IV Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640} TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Men's Fashion Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Sex and weight loss US Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Inbreeding: Why Do We Do It…
Peanutsc
From Tilt to Ragequit:The Ps…
TrAiDoS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1892 users

[TSL4] Qualifier 14 - EU/NA #10 - Page 55

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
1137 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 53 54 55 56 57 Next
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
July 11 2012 23:33 GMT
#1081
the remix of the song they are playing is even more nice than the ones on youtube.
http://fragbite.se/user/117868/silsol since 2006 http://www.reddit.com/u/silsol77
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
July 11 2012 23:33 GMT
#1082
On July 12 2012 08:31 johnnywup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 08:30 MrSalamandra wrote:
Major qualifies!

And so does Fraer!

haha fraer didn't care anyways then. i dont think major would have qualified if he didn't win, so that's good for both players!

lol, major was leading the points ranking ...
And they played for seeding and 100$.
polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
July 11 2012 23:33 GMT
#1083
woohoo for Princess/Cuteangel/WinDy/Britney/Oprah/Major/ Juan!!!
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8305 Posts
July 11 2012 23:33 GMT
#1084
On July 12 2012 08:28 jnd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 08:03 hitpoint wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:58 sAsImre wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:56 hitpoint wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:54 sAsImre wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:51 hitpoint wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:50 sAsImre wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:48 Xoronius wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:46 sAsImre wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:45 Lylat wrote:
So much good players missing for this TSL :/


who as far as EU/NA is concerned? Stephano and ?

HuK, Grubby, Dimaga, Lucifronn, Socke, Sheth, Morrow for example.


Huk, Morrow and Grubby are only hype and doesn't deserve a spot either for their play or their results lately, and you can in a certain extent say the same for Sheth and Dimaga. It's unfortunate for Lucifron and Socke but still they're not so much better than most of the ppl who qualified.


I was going to quote your last post and say this is where I list good players and you say how bad/overrated they are. I gave you the benefit of the doubt though...

Ignoring all the rest of things that you're wrong about. Saying Huk is all hype is absurd. Pretty sure he has more accomplishments in major tournaments than any other foreigner.


What's are huk accomplishment in 2012? and Naniwa has a better record than him now I think. (highly subjective too)


2012-03-25 4th 2012 MLG Winter Championship 2 : 4 Heart $ 5,500
2012-02-26 3rd 2012 MLG Winter Arena 0 : 2 DongRaeGu $ 3,600

And that's pretty fucking good. Regardless, why do only 2012 results matter?


because you've to be good now to qualify, not a year ago. Or Bitbybit would be a huge favorite ><


Bitbybit was 2 years ago.

Saying someone is all hype and then ignoring tournament results is ridiculous, and asking for only recent results is just what people do when they want to shit on a good player who has won too much stuff in the past. There are people qualified who haven't won anything, but according to you Huk and others are overrated and not worthy of qualification because he's ONLY gotten 3rd and 4th in MLG this year.

He played well in MLG Winter but then when you look at MLG Spring:
  • Arena 1: Finished last
  • Arena 2: Eliminated in Round 2
  • Spring Champs: Eliminated after two rounds (was seeded into open bracket R4)


Then he isn't getting far in the TSL4 Qualifiers. So people who expect him to place in the top 8 are basing the expectations on earlier performance (which was indeed on top), but one must consider the recent performance too, same for these new and upcoming players. In this quite large and very competitive SC2 scene it takes a little to drop below many other great skilled players and you must work very hard to get back there.

In the end the present performance is all that matters.



Keep spewing your bullshit. He's one of three foreigners to make it to top eight of NASL, and had to beat ganzi in a best of five to get there
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Gonff
Profile Joined May 2010
United States686 Posts
July 11 2012 23:33 GMT
#1085
Best finals of all the NA/EU qualifiers. Entertaining play by both players and entertaining casting from Wheat and especially Axeltoss. Hell yeah can't wait for the big show.
Savern101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom859 Posts
July 11 2012 23:33 GMT
#1086
Yay! Jonnyrecco qualified! UK Fighting! Hope a bigger team picks him up soon
EG.DeMusliM/d.BlinG/UK Fighting!
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 11 2012 23:34 GMT
#1087
On July 12 2012 08:32 MrSalamandra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 08:31 johnnywup wrote:
On July 12 2012 08:30 MrSalamandra wrote:
Major qualifies!

And so does Fraer!

haha fraer didn't care anyways then. i dont think major would have qualified if he didn't win, so that's good for both players!


I don't think Major cared either, he was actually first in points.

You get better seeding for the tournament if you win a qualifier than if you just get in by points according to Hot_bid earlier in the thread
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
July 11 2012 23:34 GMT
#1088
nice attack by major, wasn't sure he was going to break.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
wongfeihung
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States763 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 18:56:39
July 11 2012 23:34 GMT
#1089
Sakray
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
France2198 Posts
July 11 2012 23:35 GMT
#1090
Oh god, not Major...
vilg
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark413 Posts
July 11 2012 23:35 GMT
#1091
Not a single NA player qualified, right? Pretty disappointing.
Dekkers
Profile Joined February 2012
France315 Posts
July 11 2012 23:36 GMT
#1092
On July 12 2012 08:34 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 08:32 MrSalamandra wrote:
On July 12 2012 08:31 johnnywup wrote:
On July 12 2012 08:30 MrSalamandra wrote:
Major qualifies!

And so does Fraer!

haha fraer didn't care anyways then. i dont think major would have qualified if he didn't win, so that's good for both players!


I don't think Major cared either, he was actually first in points.

You get better seeding for the tournament if you win a qualifier than if you just get in by points according to Hot_bid earlier in the thread


Also 100 bucks for the winner, only 50 for the other finalist.

Not that much but always good to take.
hitpoint
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1511 Posts
July 11 2012 23:36 GMT
#1093
On July 12 2012 08:35 vilg wrote:
Not a single NA player qualified, right? Pretty disappointing.


Not sure if serious. Major..
It's spelled LOSE not LOOSE.
legaton
Profile Joined December 2010
France1763 Posts
July 11 2012 23:36 GMT
#1094
On July 12 2012 08:35 vilg wrote:
Not a single NA player qualified, right? Pretty disappointing.


Mexico is in North America...

Also, Select.
No GG, No Skill - Jaedong <3
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
July 11 2012 23:36 GMT
#1095
On July 12 2012 08:33 polyphonyEX wrote:
woohoo for Princess/Cuteangel/WinDy/Britney/Oprah/Major/ Juan!!!


/Memory/Kitty/Terran/520 ^^

But he did play quite well in the qualifiers so I'm excited to see how he does in the main event.
jnd
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Czech Republic915 Posts
July 11 2012 23:36 GMT
#1096
On July 12 2012 08:32 hitpoint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 08:28 jnd wrote:
On July 12 2012 08:03 hitpoint wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:58 sAsImre wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:56 hitpoint wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:54 sAsImre wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:51 hitpoint wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:50 sAsImre wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:48 Xoronius wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:46 sAsImre wrote:
[quote]

who as far as EU/NA is concerned? Stephano and ?

HuK, Grubby, Dimaga, Lucifronn, Socke, Sheth, Morrow for example.


Huk, Morrow and Grubby are only hype and doesn't deserve a spot either for their play or their results lately, and you can in a certain extent say the same for Sheth and Dimaga. It's unfortunate for Lucifron and Socke but still they're not so much better than most of the ppl who qualified.


I was going to quote your last post and say this is where I list good players and you say how bad/overrated they are. I gave you the benefit of the doubt though...

Ignoring all the rest of things that you're wrong about. Saying Huk is all hype is absurd. Pretty sure he has more accomplishments in major tournaments than any other foreigner.


What's are huk accomplishment in 2012? and Naniwa has a better record than him now I think. (highly subjective too)


2012-03-25 4th 2012 MLG Winter Championship 2 : 4 Heart $ 5,500
2012-02-26 3rd 2012 MLG Winter Arena 0 : 2 DongRaeGu $ 3,600

And that's pretty fucking good. Regardless, why do only 2012 results matter?


because you've to be good now to qualify, not a year ago. Or Bitbybit would be a huge favorite ><


Bitbybit was 2 years ago.

Saying someone is all hype and then ignoring tournament results is ridiculous, and asking for only recent results is just what people do when they want to shit on a good player who has won too much stuff in the past. There are people qualified who haven't won anything, but according to you Huk and others are overrated and not worthy of qualification because he's ONLY gotten 3rd and 4th in MLG this year.

He played well in MLG Winter but then when you look at MLG Spring:
  • Arena 1: Finished last
  • Arena 2: Eliminated in Round 2
  • Spring Champs: Eliminated after two rounds (was seeded into open bracket R4)


Then he isn't getting far in the TSL4 Qualifiers. So people who expect him to place in the top 8 are basing the expectations on earlier performance (which was indeed on top), but one must consider the recent performance too, same for these new and upcoming players. In this quite large and very competitive SC2 scene it takes a little to drop below many other great skilled players and you must work very hard to get back there.

In the end the present performance is all that matters.


Playing poorly in 2 tournaments means nothing. As for the qualifiers, Huk got eliminated mostly in Bo1's. Your point is that he's actually dropped so far in skill that he couldn't have qualified? Do you really believe that? If you do, then I don;t know what more to say.

Of course you don't have more to say because there is no other explanation than he's just throwing the games for no reason (and that would be kinda stupid). There are 10 EU/NA qualifiers so some "unlucky" Bo1 eliminations can be rectified later. If he can't go through any of them, then I guess we must consider the other players who managed to go through playing better now.
Team 8 BaBy will be the next Terran Bonjwa in HoTS | HSC V, the best tournament in 2012 | GD Studio #1 no fluff esports show
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 23:38:01
July 11 2012 23:37 GMT
#1097
On July 12 2012 08:33 polyphonyEX wrote:
woohoo for Princess/Cuteangel/WinDy/Britney/Oprah/Major/ Juan!!!


Also Memory, Kitty, 520 and Terran! :D
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
MrSalamandra
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom412 Posts
July 11 2012 23:37 GMT
#1098
On July 12 2012 08:34 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 08:32 MrSalamandra wrote:
On July 12 2012 08:31 johnnywup wrote:
On July 12 2012 08:30 MrSalamandra wrote:
Major qualifies!

And so does Fraer!

haha fraer didn't care anyways then. i dont think major would have qualified if he didn't win, so that's good for both players!


I don't think Major cared either, he was actually first in points.

You get better seeding for the tournament if you win a qualifier than if you just get in by points according to Hot_bid earlier in the thread


Oh yeah. Well, maybe he cared somewhat then. Seeding isn't the most important thing, I'm not even sure how they'll do their seeding... as all the qualifier winners should be equivalent to each other, the ones who qualified by points could be ranked... but how does EU/NA compare to KR? Are Thorzain/Naniwa/Kas seeded #1/2/3? Hell, in NASL 1 being seeded first was terrible.
sereniity
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Sweden1159 Posts
July 11 2012 23:38 GMT
#1099
On July 12 2012 08:32 hitpoint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 08:28 jnd wrote:
On July 12 2012 08:03 hitpoint wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:58 sAsImre wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:56 hitpoint wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:54 sAsImre wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:51 hitpoint wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:50 sAsImre wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:48 Xoronius wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:46 sAsImre wrote:
[quote]

who as far as EU/NA is concerned? Stephano and ?

HuK, Grubby, Dimaga, Lucifronn, Socke, Sheth, Morrow for example.


Huk, Morrow and Grubby are only hype and doesn't deserve a spot either for their play or their results lately, and you can in a certain extent say the same for Sheth and Dimaga. It's unfortunate for Lucifron and Socke but still they're not so much better than most of the ppl who qualified.


I was going to quote your last post and say this is where I list good players and you say how bad/overrated they are. I gave you the benefit of the doubt though...

Ignoring all the rest of things that you're wrong about. Saying Huk is all hype is absurd. Pretty sure he has more accomplishments in major tournaments than any other foreigner.


What's are huk accomplishment in 2012? and Naniwa has a better record than him now I think. (highly subjective too)


2012-03-25 4th 2012 MLG Winter Championship 2 : 4 Heart $ 5,500
2012-02-26 3rd 2012 MLG Winter Arena 0 : 2 DongRaeGu $ 3,600

And that's pretty fucking good. Regardless, why do only 2012 results matter?


because you've to be good now to qualify, not a year ago. Or Bitbybit would be a huge favorite ><


Bitbybit was 2 years ago.

Saying someone is all hype and then ignoring tournament results is ridiculous, and asking for only recent results is just what people do when they want to shit on a good player who has won too much stuff in the past. There are people qualified who haven't won anything, but according to you Huk and others are overrated and not worthy of qualification because he's ONLY gotten 3rd and 4th in MLG this year.

He played well in MLG Winter but then when you look at MLG Spring:
  • Arena 1: Finished last
  • Arena 2: Eliminated in Round 2
  • Spring Champs: Eliminated after two rounds (was seeded into open bracket R4)


Then he isn't getting far in the TSL4 Qualifiers. So people who expect him to place in the top 8 are basing the expectations on earlier performance (which was indeed on top), but one must consider the recent performance too, same for these new and upcoming players. In this quite large and very competitive SC2 scene it takes a little to drop below many other great skilled players and you must work very hard to get back there.

In the end the present performance is all that matters.


Playing poorly in 2 tournaments means nothing. As for the qualifiers, Huk got eliminated mostly in Bo1's. Your point is that he's actually dropped so far in skill that he couldn't have qualified? Do you really believe that? If you do, then I don;t know what more to say.


If you don't think HuK is playing far worse than he used to then there's no point in arguing with you.
"I am Day9, Holy shit!"
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
July 11 2012 23:38 GMT
#1100
so when is this going to continue?
http://fragbite.se/user/117868/silsol since 2006 http://www.reddit.com/u/silsol77
Prev 1 53 54 55 56 57 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
Patches' TLMC21 Bash #2
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PartinGtheBigBoy 321
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 887
sorry 89
Noble 67
yabsab 53
JulyZerg 45
NaDa 34
Bale 32
ajuk12(nOOB) 24
Icarus 6
League of Legends
JimRising 772
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K566
m0e_tv459
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0284
Other Games
summit1g8250
Maynarde123
Tasteless57
NeuroSwarm35
Mew2King13
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL8262
Other Games
gamesdonequick2717
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH144
• practicex 29
• OhrlRock 3
• Kozan
• Migwel
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• Diggity4
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1430
• Lourlo1135
• Stunt434
Other Games
• WagamamaTV345
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
4h 56m
Soma vs Bisu
OSC
8h 56m
OSC
12h 56m
MaxPax vs Gerald
Solar vs Krystianer
PAPI vs Lemon
Ryung vs Moja
Nice vs NightPhoenix
Cham vs TBD
MaNa vs TriGGeR
PiGosaur Monday
18h 56m
OSC
1d 17h
The PondCast
2 days
OSC
2 days
Wardi Open
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
Safe House 2
4 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Safe House 2
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS2
WardiTV TLMC #15
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
EC S1
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Offline Finals
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.