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[TSL4] Qualifier 14 - EU/NA #10 - Page 50

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Nick_54
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2230 Posts
July 11 2012 22:59 GMT
#981
On July 12 2012 07:55 EdouarKiLL wrote:
Fraer playing from eastern europe on NA server: thats like playing on EU ladder from korea =(


Major played on EU server yesterday and made ro16 before disconnecting if I remember correctly.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
July 11 2012 23:00 GMT
#982
On July 12 2012 07:58 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 07:50 sAsImre wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:48 Xoronius wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:46 sAsImre wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:45 Lylat wrote:
So much good players missing for this TSL :/


who as far as EU/NA is concerned? Stephano and ?

HuK, Grubby, Dimaga, Lucifronn, Socke, Sheth, Morrow for example.


Huk, Morrow and Grubby are only hype and doesn't deserve a spot either for their play or their results lately, and you can in a certain extent say the same for Sheth and Dimaga. It's unfortunate for Lucifron and Socke but still they're not so much better than most of the ppl who qualified.
Being good a year or 6months ago doesn't win you a spot.


Dimaga just got second at DH, so I would exlude him from being overhyped.


the problem for Dimaga is still his vP. which is quite a problem now that you can't rely on T to kick out P :'(.
But his ZvZ and TvZ are top notch as long as foreigner go, that's why i say for a certain extend. You can say the same for Huk, he just has to practise to be a top foreigner but it's quite random lately apparently...
Zest fanboy.
Mouzone
Profile Joined April 2011
3937 Posts
July 11 2012 23:00 GMT
#983
Major is in Mehico?
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
July 11 2012 23:00 GMT
#984
I'm still in shock that major won that.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
July 11 2012 23:00 GMT
#985
On July 12 2012 07:57 Crowned wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 07:56 Qikz wrote:
How did Fraer throw that incredible lead? Incredible come back by Major.


Couldn't deal with the multi-pronged aggression, he got outplayed.

The throw people are talking about was long before Majors agression.

When he had Major easily contained in his main but decided to move up the ramp although he had a mining base more and Major was short of mining out his main.

On top of that the weird dark shrine.

What he did was about the only thing possible to get a chance to lose this.
Off-season = best season
Sabre
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1086 Posts
July 11 2012 23:01 GMT
#986
On July 12 2012 07:58 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 07:57 StarVe wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:56 blade55555 wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:55 EdouarKiLL wrote:
Fraer playing from eastern europe on NA server: thats like playing on EU ladder from korea =(


Major playing from korea to NA server. Both have latency.

Major is in America.


Oh he is back in America? I know in the lalst qualifier he got into the finals he said he was in kr and had latency and hated playing tvp due to it when he lost to whoever it was in the finals.


yeah vs Welmu he lost 3-2. He was still in KR during that TSL qualifier and tbh, I can see Major's play is far more fluid without any kind of latency problems
UK TrackMania Champion | Former SC2 player | http://www.twitter.com/Sabre_CS
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
July 11 2012 23:01 GMT
#987
Was Dj Wheat eating for a bit? Could almost swear I heard chewing :D
hitpoint
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1511 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 23:04:46
July 11 2012 23:03 GMT
#988
On July 12 2012 07:58 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 07:56 hitpoint wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:54 sAsImre wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:51 hitpoint wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:50 sAsImre wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:48 Xoronius wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:46 sAsImre wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:45 Lylat wrote:
So much good players missing for this TSL :/


who as far as EU/NA is concerned? Stephano and ?

HuK, Grubby, Dimaga, Lucifronn, Socke, Sheth, Morrow for example.


Huk, Morrow and Grubby are only hype and doesn't deserve a spot either for their play or their results lately, and you can in a certain extent say the same for Sheth and Dimaga. It's unfortunate for Lucifron and Socke but still they're not so much better than most of the ppl who qualified.


I was going to quote your last post and say this is where I list good players and you say how bad/overrated they are. I gave you the benefit of the doubt though...

Ignoring all the rest of things that you're wrong about. Saying Huk is all hype is absurd. Pretty sure he has more accomplishments in major tournaments than any other foreigner.


What's are huk accomplishment in 2012? and Naniwa has a better record than him now I think. (highly subjective too)


2012-03-25 4th 2012 MLG Winter Championship 2 : 4 Heart $ 5,500
2012-02-26 3rd 2012 MLG Winter Arena 0 : 2 DongRaeGu $ 3,600

And that's pretty fucking good. Regardless, why do only 2012 results matter?


because you've to be good now to qualify, not a year ago. Or Bitbybit would be a huge favorite ><


Bitbybit was 2 years ago.

Saying someone is all hype and then ignoring tournament results is ridiculous, and asking for only recent results is just what people do when they want to shit on a good player who has won too much stuff in the past. There are people qualified who haven't won anything, but according to you Huk and others are overrated and not worthy of qualification because he's ONLY gotten 3rd and 4th in MLG this year.
It's spelled LOSE not LOOSE.
Crowned
Profile Joined August 2011
United States368 Posts
July 11 2012 23:03 GMT
#989
On July 12 2012 08:00 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 07:57 Crowned wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:56 Qikz wrote:
How did Fraer throw that incredible lead? Incredible come back by Major.


Couldn't deal with the multi-pronged aggression, he got outplayed.

The throw people are talking about was long before Majors agression.

When he had Major easily contained in his main but decided to move up the ramp although he had a mining base more and Major was short of mining out his main.

On top of that the weird dark shrine.

What he did was about the only thing possible to get a chance to lose this.


He was still ahead even after he lost his whole army and the DTs did nothing at all. He killed so many scvs, and took his own 3rd. He then went on to get pulled apart and lose 60 probes.
It's cool to love to win, but it's better to hate to lose.
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
July 11 2012 23:03 GMT
#990
OMG Major pulled his mule from mining that's pretty sick

Could just call it on far patch tho.
ErAsc2
Profile Joined May 2012
Sweden256 Posts
July 11 2012 23:04 GMT
#991
Major soo doesn't deserve his TSL4 spot. He claimed def-win vs me, refusing to play me even tho I came online a few minutes late in ro32 after I had knocked out Jrecco for him who was more than 20 points ahead of him...
Swedish GM Protoss http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2336142/1/MilkEA/
Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
July 11 2012 23:04 GMT
#992
On July 12 2012 08:03 SpiZe wrote:
OMG Major pulled his mule from mining that's pretty sick

Could just call it on far patch tho.


You get your minerals earlier if you call it on a close patch (and then pull it before it expires). Small differences, but they could smoothen out a build.
Such flammable little insects!
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
July 11 2012 23:04 GMT
#993
On July 12 2012 08:03 Crowned wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 08:00 Redox wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:57 Crowned wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:56 Qikz wrote:
How did Fraer throw that incredible lead? Incredible come back by Major.


Couldn't deal with the multi-pronged aggression, he got outplayed.

The throw people are talking about was long before Majors agression.

When he had Major easily contained in his main but decided to move up the ramp although he had a mining base more and Major was short of mining out his main.

On top of that the weird dark shrine.

What he did was about the only thing possible to get a chance to lose this.


He was still ahead even after he lost his whole army and the DTs did nothing at all. He killed so many scvs, and took his own 3rd. He then went on to get pulled apart and lose 60 probes.

Of course he was.
As I said before, it took an incredible series of fails to make this possible.
Off-season = best season
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
July 11 2012 23:05 GMT
#994
On July 12 2012 08:01 Bibbit wrote:
Was Dj Wheat eating for a bit? Could almost swear I heard chewing :D


Sounds like it.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Crowned
Profile Joined August 2011
United States368 Posts
July 11 2012 23:05 GMT
#995
On July 12 2012 08:04 ErAsc2 wrote:
Major soo doesn't deserve his TSL4 spot. He claimed def-win vs me, refusing to play me even tho I came online a few minutes late in ro32 after I had knocked out Jrecco for him who was more than 20 points ahead of him...


It's your fault for being late, learn to follow tournament rules imo.
It's cool to love to win, but it's better to hate to lose.
Crowned
Profile Joined August 2011
United States368 Posts
July 11 2012 23:06 GMT
#996
On July 12 2012 08:04 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 08:03 Crowned wrote:
On July 12 2012 08:00 Redox wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:57 Crowned wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:56 Qikz wrote:
How did Fraer throw that incredible lead? Incredible come back by Major.


Couldn't deal with the multi-pronged aggression, he got outplayed.

The throw people are talking about was long before Majors agression.

When he had Major easily contained in his main but decided to move up the ramp although he had a mining base more and Major was short of mining out his main.

On top of that the weird dark shrine.

What he did was about the only thing possible to get a chance to lose this.


He was still ahead even after he lost his whole army and the DTs did nothing at all. He killed so many scvs, and took his own 3rd. He then went on to get pulled apart and lose 60 probes.

Of course he was.
As I said before, it took an incredible series of fails to make this possible.


Agreed.
It's cool to love to win, but it's better to hate to lose.
najreteip
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium4158 Posts
July 11 2012 23:06 GMT
#997
This stargate is very original
I have no quote!
TumNarDok
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany854 Posts
July 11 2012 23:07 GMT
#998
On July 12 2012 08:04 ErAsc2 wrote:
Major soo doesn't deserve his TSL4 spot. He claimed def-win vs me, refusing to play me even tho I came online a few minutes late in ro32 after I had knocked out Jrecco for him who was more than 20 points ahead of him...


mmm should not play in 2 tournaments then.
Grats on the qualification though :D
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
July 11 2012 23:10 GMT
#999
The new ZeeRax is here, Voidray colossus only. :D
Toadvine
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland2234 Posts
July 11 2012 23:10 GMT
#1000
Fraer must be trolling.
"There are always some Eskimos ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves." - S.J.Lec
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