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[TSL4] Qualifier 14 - EU/NA #10 - Page 46

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Nineball
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway163 Posts
July 11 2012 22:35 GMT
#901
Oh man, is this Select discussion back again? :S Let it be and enjoy the games!
Grimwold
Profile Joined April 2011
Finland42 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 22:39:36
July 11 2012 22:35 GMT
#902
So for the European/NA qualifiers qualifying will be total of 18 players: 9 protoss, 3 terran and 6 zerg with 2 terran and 1 protoss qualifying from previous tournament results.

Counties the players represent:

Sweden: 5 (3/1/1)
Germany: 3 (2/0/1) (Daisy)
Ukraine: 2 (1/1/0)
Finland: 2 (2/0/0)
Poland: 2 (1/0/1)
Mexico: 1 (0/1/1)
USA: 1 (0/1/0) (Select)
Denmark: 1 (1/0/0)
Netherlands: 1 (0/0/1)
Spain: 1 (0/0/1)
UK: 1 (0/0/1)
Serbia: 1 (0/1/0)

Sweden is as strong as you would expect.
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Warpish
Profile Joined June 2011
834 Posts
July 11 2012 22:36 GMT
#903
On July 12 2012 07:35 asongdotnet wrote:
wow... i believe real gets in now right? he got an additional 21 points. also with major/fraer taking the winner slot, that frees it up for... jonnyrecco?


No, Real is out, Recco is in.
amiGo_O
Profile Joined February 2012
Czech Republic959 Posts
July 11 2012 22:36 GMT
#904
On July 12 2012 07:35 asongdotnet wrote:
wow... i believe real gets in now right? he got an additional 21 points. also with major/fraer taking the winner slot, that frees it up for... jonnyrecco?

real is out ... jonnyrecco is in ...
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 22:37:54
July 11 2012 22:37 GMT
#905
On July 12 2012 07:31 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 07:27 bikefrog wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:22 Bagi wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:21 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:19 4ZakeN87 wrote:
It is weird to count select imo... He lived and was raised in Korea until he was 18, only last years he lived in NA. With this kind of logic is Jinro Korean.

It depends on who you ask. Some people would count Jinro as korean now. When mana was asked if Bling was a top 5 protoss in EU and they listed them, they were asked why they didnt include Sase and Naniwa and Mana said it's because he considers them Koreans since they train in Korea. (said this during HSC)

Oh please.

Select plays with a Korean flag, hes Korean.

He plays under the american flag, actually... http://www.teamliquid.net/tournaments/admin/?action=bracket&id=3251.


Exactly.

I really don't understand how this keeps coming up. It's really fucking simple:

IT'S THEIR CHOICE.

HuK (As an example) is a dual citizen of the States and Canada, he chooses to play under the Canadian flag and we love him for it. (Though we'd love him either way). If he wanted to play under a Korean flag because he trained there that would be fine! I mean, it'd be a bit strange, like Lance Armstrong Biking under a swiss flag because he trained in the Alps, but it would be acceptable. This is e-sports. It's a global game and where you're born, shouldn't be the deciding factor in who you play for.

Didnt know you play for a country in sc2. Thought you play for yourself or for a team.

And really, these flags next to the names there dont say much. Not all of the players living in Germany that have a German flag next to their name are actually German.
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jnd
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Czech Republic915 Posts
July 11 2012 22:37 GMT
#906
On July 12 2012 07:33 BretZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 07:31 TheDougler wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:27 bikefrog wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:22 Bagi wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:21 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:19 4ZakeN87 wrote:
It is weird to count select imo... He lived and was raised in Korea until he was 18, only last years he lived in NA. With this kind of logic is Jinro Korean.

It depends on who you ask. Some people would count Jinro as korean now. When mana was asked if Bling was a top 5 protoss in EU and they listed them, they were asked why they didnt include Sase and Naniwa and Mana said it's because he considers them Koreans since they train in Korea. (said this during HSC)

Oh please.

Select plays with a Korean flag, hes Korean.

He plays under the american flag, actually... http://www.teamliquid.net/tournaments/admin/?action=bracket&id=3251.


Exactly.

I really don't understand how this keeps coming up. It's really fucking simple:

IT'S THEIR CHOICE.

HuK (As an example) is a dual citizen of the States and Canada, he chooses to play under the Canadian flag and we love him for it. (Though we'd love him either way). If he wanted to play under a Korean flag because he trained there that would be fine! I mean, it'd be a bit strange, like Lance Armstrong Biking under a swiss flag because he trained in the Alps, but it would be acceptable. This is e-sports. It's a global game and where you're born, shouldn't be the deciding factor in who you play for.



Finally some logic. Why does it matter? No one has established any rules on this, so it's the players choice.

Of course there are rules, see those for TSL4 quals: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=339212#eligibility
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Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
July 11 2012 22:37 GMT
#907
On July 12 2012 07:35 Grimwold wrote:
So for the European/NA qualifiers qualifying will be total of 18 players: 9 protoss, 3 terran and 6 zerg with 2 terran and 1 protoss qualifying from previous tournament results.

Counties the players represent:

Sweden: 5 (3/1/1)
Ukraine: 2 (1/1/0)
Finland: 2 (2/0/0)
Germany: 2 (1/0/1)
Poland: 2 (1/0/1)
Mexico: 1 (0/1/1)
USA: 1 (0/1/0) (Select)
Korea: 1 (1/0/0) (Daisy)
Denmark: 1 (1/0/0)
Netherlands: 1 (0/0/1)
Spain: 1 (0/0/1)
UK: 1 (0/0/1)
Serbia: 1 (0/1/0)

Sweden is as strong as you would expect.

Daisy is living in Germany.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 11 2012 22:37 GMT
#908
On July 12 2012 07:35 asongdotnet wrote:
wow... i believe real gets in now right? he got an additional 21 points. also with major/fraer taking the winner slot, that frees it up for... jonnyrecco?

Top 9 on points are
1. Major
2. SeleCT
3. Babyknight
4. LaLuSh
5. DarKFoRcE
6. Bischu
7. Fraer
8. JonnyREcco
9. Hasuobs
This is already factoring in 100 points for a 2nd place by Major and Fraer. Since only one of them can get 2nd place and the other auto qualifies, remove their name for this list and bump up everyone behind them a spot. ReaL can't qualify. Hasuobs is the last one in
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BoB_KiLLeR
Profile Joined September 2010
Spain620 Posts
July 11 2012 22:39 GMT
#909
Besides the 3 seeded players and maybe Genius, there is no TSL3 player qualified :o
najreteip
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium4158 Posts
July 11 2012 22:41 GMT
#910
Wow Fraer what was that
I have no quote!
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 22:42:39
July 11 2012 22:41 GMT
#911
On July 12 2012 07:39 BoB_KiLLeR wrote:
Besides the 3 seeded players and maybe Genius, there is no TSL3 player qualified :o

hasuobs? ret?
yo
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
July 11 2012 22:42 GMT
#912
On July 12 2012 07:39 BoB_KiLLeR wrote:
Besides the 3 seeded players and maybe Genius, there is no TSL3 player qualified :o


Hasu and Ret.
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
July 11 2012 22:45 GMT
#913
So much good players missing for this TSL :/
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
July 11 2012 22:45 GMT
#914
Very stupid decision by Major, he could've easily put Fraer allin and gotten at least a draw out of it if he microed his dropships and killed the pylons, not the damned robo.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
sereniity
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Sweden1159 Posts
July 11 2012 22:45 GMT
#915
major is SO FUCKING GOOD!
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corpsepose
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1678 Posts
July 11 2012 22:45 GMT
#916
dat scan
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Thobrik
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden1120 Posts
July 11 2012 22:45 GMT
#917
On July 12 2012 07:35 Grimwold wrote:
So for the European/NA qualifiers qualifying will be total of 18 players: 9 protoss, 3 terran and 6 zerg with 2 terran and 1 protoss qualifying from previous tournament results.

Counties the players represent:

Sweden: 5 (3/1/1)
Germany: 3 (2/0/1) (Daisy)
Ukraine: 2 (1/1/0)
Finland: 2 (2/0/0)
Poland: 2 (1/0/1)
Mexico: 1 (0/1/1)
USA: 1 (0/1/0) (Select)
Denmark: 1 (1/0/0)
Netherlands: 1 (0/0/1)
Spain: 1 (0/0/1)
UK: 1 (0/0/1)
Serbia: 1 (0/1/0)

Sweden is as strong as you would expect.


I personally would've gladly traded bischu and lalush for cytoplasm and morrow, but you can't have everything now can you?
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imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
July 11 2012 22:46 GMT
#918
On July 12 2012 07:45 Lylat wrote:
So much good players missing for this TSL :/


who as far as EU/NA is concerned? Stephano and ?
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Toadvine
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland2234 Posts
July 11 2012 22:46 GMT
#919
On July 12 2012 07:45 sereniity wrote:
major is SO FUCKING GOOD!


His opening was absolutely terrible.
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Gonff
Profile Joined May 2010
United States686 Posts
July 11 2012 22:46 GMT
#920
Major playing out of his mind right now. He's way behind, but holy cow he's still alive at least.
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