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On July 12 2012 07:23 Lord_J wrote: Major looks like he's on a completely different level than the rest of these players. Today, at least.
I'm impressed that he managed to beat LucifroN in TvT on a Bo3.
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On July 12 2012 07:22 Bagi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 07:21 Shellshock1122 wrote:On July 12 2012 07:19 4ZakeN87 wrote: It is weird to count select imo... He lived and was raised in Korea until he was 18, only last years he lived in NA. With this kind of logic is Jinro Korean. It depends on who you ask. Some people would count Jinro as korean now. When mana was asked if Bling was a top 5 protoss in EU and they listed them, they were asked why they didnt include Sase and Naniwa and Mana said it's because he considers them Koreans since they train in Korea. (said this during HSC) Oh please. Select plays with a Korean flag, hes Korean. He plays under the american flag, actually... http://www.teamliquid.net/tournaments/admin/?action=bracket&id=3251.
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On July 12 2012 07:26 Warpish wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 07:23 Lord_J wrote: Major looks like he's on a completely different level than the rest of these players. Today, at least. I'm impressed that he managed to beat LucifroN in TvT on a Bo3.
and completely stomping him in the last 2 games at that, they didnt look close
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On July 12 2012 07:23 Lord_J wrote: Major looks like he's on a completely different level than the rest of these players. Today, at least. To be fair, he had a relatively easy bracket today. Beat Slush in a BO1 and then played a noname Protoss, Delphi, got a walkover, beat Agh, beat Lucifron 2-1(great result and great games from him!) and then VIBE.
Still, he outclassed most of them.
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On July 12 2012 07:21 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 07:19 4ZakeN87 wrote: It is weird to count select imo... He lived and was raised in Korea until he was 18, only last years he lived in NA. With this kind of logic is Jinro Korean. It depends on who you ask. Some people would count Jinro as korean now. When mana was asked if Bling was a top 5 protoss in EU and they listed them, they were asked why they didnt include Sase and Naniwa and Mana said it's because he considers them Koreans since they train in Korea. (said this during HSC)
Well it is retarded cause it is completely arbitrary. All of a sudden anyone can be or not be a Korean.
How long do you need to train in Korea to be "korean", 1 day, 1 week, 1 month, 1 year?
If you go back to Europe, how long do you then remain Korean? Do stop being Korean once you landed, or do you keep being Korean for more or less then a month? Or are you forever Korean once you trained in Korea? Is it the same for Koreans? How long must the be outside of Korea to be foreigners? Can Select ever become Korean or is he forever foreigner?
There is no answer for these questions, therefor you cannot define it and therefor is this kind of logic flawed.
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4-gate blink is Fraer's go-to build on Antiga, he already beat Puma with it at Dreamhack.
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On July 12 2012 07:28 4ZakeN87 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 07:21 Shellshock1122 wrote:On July 12 2012 07:19 4ZakeN87 wrote: It is weird to count select imo... He lived and was raised in Korea until he was 18, only last years he lived in NA. With this kind of logic is Jinro Korean. It depends on who you ask. Some people would count Jinro as korean now. When mana was asked if Bling was a top 5 protoss in EU and they listed them, they were asked why they didnt include Sase and Naniwa and Mana said it's because he considers them Koreans since they train in Korea. (said this during HSC) Well it is retarded cause it is completely arbitrary. All of a sudden anyone can be or not be a Korean. How long do you need to train in Korea to be "korean", 1 day, 1 week, 1 month, 1 year? If you go back to Europe, how long do you then remain Korean? Do stop being Korean once you landed, or do you keep being Korean for more or less then a month? Or are you forever Korean once you trained in Korea? Is it the same for Koreans? How long must the be outside of Korea to be foreigners? Can Select ever become Korean or is he forever foreigner? There is no answer for these questions, therefor you cannot define it and therefor is this kind of logic flawed. I agree. It's all kind of dumb
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How'd I know a counter all in would come game 2. It's so predictable.
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Blink so strong on this map. GG
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On July 12 2012 07:27 bikefrog wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 07:22 Bagi wrote:On July 12 2012 07:21 Shellshock1122 wrote:On July 12 2012 07:19 4ZakeN87 wrote: It is weird to count select imo... He lived and was raised in Korea until he was 18, only last years he lived in NA. With this kind of logic is Jinro Korean. It depends on who you ask. Some people would count Jinro as korean now. When mana was asked if Bling was a top 5 protoss in EU and they listed them, they were asked why they didnt include Sase and Naniwa and Mana said it's because he considers them Koreans since they train in Korea. (said this during HSC) Oh please. Select plays with a Korean flag, hes Korean. He plays under the american flag, actually... http://www.teamliquid.net/tournaments/admin/?action=bracket&id=3251.
Exactly.
I really don't understand how this keeps coming up. It's really fucking simple:
IT'S THEIR CHOICE.
HuK (As an example) is a dual citizen of the States and Canada, he chooses to play under the Canadian flag and we love him for it. (Though we'd love him either way). If he wanted to play under a Korean flag because he trained there that would be fine! I mean, it'd be a bit strange, like Lance Armstrong Biking under a swiss flag because he trained in the Alps, but it would be acceptable. This is e-sports. It's a global game and where you're born, shouldn't be the deciding factor in who you play for.
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That was very clean and well executed
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Fuck that build on Antiga ;;
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On July 12 2012 07:31 Gosi wrote: Fuck that build on Antiga ;; And cloud. Cloud and antiga for that 3 gate robo blink is so sick with that surface area.
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So apparently blink beats double tech lab on this map...
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Not particularly well played by either player, imo. Fraer running his stalkers into stimmed bio, and Major doing a weird scv pull with no attacking units to support it.
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On July 12 2012 07:29 StarVe wrote: 4-gate blink is Fraer's go-to build on Antiga, he already beat Puma with it at Dreamhack. Fraer's or every protoss'?I'm surprised major lost to this considering he plays on the korean server and sees it all day.
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nice job by FRAER for sure!
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On July 12 2012 07:31 TheDougler wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 07:27 bikefrog wrote:On July 12 2012 07:22 Bagi wrote:On July 12 2012 07:21 Shellshock1122 wrote:On July 12 2012 07:19 4ZakeN87 wrote: It is weird to count select imo... He lived and was raised in Korea until he was 18, only last years he lived in NA. With this kind of logic is Jinro Korean. It depends on who you ask. Some people would count Jinro as korean now. When mana was asked if Bling was a top 5 protoss in EU and they listed them, they were asked why they didnt include Sase and Naniwa and Mana said it's because he considers them Koreans since they train in Korea. (said this during HSC) Oh please. Select plays with a Korean flag, hes Korean. He plays under the american flag, actually... http://www.teamliquid.net/tournaments/admin/?action=bracket&id=3251. Exactly. I really don't understand how this keeps coming up. It's really fucking simple: IT'S THEIR CHOICE. HuK (As an example) is a dual citizen of the States and Canada, he chooses to play under the Canadian flag and we love him for it. (Though we'd love him either way). If he wanted to play under a Korean flag because he trained there that would be fine! I mean, it'd be a bit strange, like Lance Armstrong Biking under a swiss flag because he trained in the Alps, but it would be acceptable. This is e-sports. It's a global game and where you're born, shouldn't be the deciding factor in who you play for.
Finally some logic. Why does it matter? No one has established any rules on this, so it's the players choice.
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wow... i believe real gets in now right? he got an additional 21 points. also with major/fraer taking the winner slot, that frees it up for... jonnyrecco?
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Time for proxy marauder, I guess.
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