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[TSL4] Qualifier 14 - EU/NA #10 - Page 45

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Warpish
Profile Joined June 2011
834 Posts
July 11 2012 22:26 GMT
#881
On July 12 2012 07:23 Lord_J wrote:
Major looks like he's on a completely different level than the rest of these players. Today, at least.


I'm impressed that he managed to beat LucifroN in TvT on a Bo3.
bikefrog
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway451 Posts
July 11 2012 22:27 GMT
#882
On July 12 2012 07:22 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 07:21 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:19 4ZakeN87 wrote:
It is weird to count select imo... He lived and was raised in Korea until he was 18, only last years he lived in NA. With this kind of logic is Jinro Korean.

It depends on who you ask. Some people would count Jinro as korean now. When mana was asked if Bling was a top 5 protoss in EU and they listed them, they were asked why they didnt include Sase and Naniwa and Mana said it's because he considers them Koreans since they train in Korea. (said this during HSC)

Oh please.

Select plays with a Korean flag, hes Korean.

He plays under the american flag, actually... http://www.teamliquid.net/tournaments/admin/?action=bracket&id=3251.
Foreigners fighting! Ovethrow our Korean overlords!
Sabre
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1086 Posts
July 11 2012 22:27 GMT
#883
On July 12 2012 07:26 Warpish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 07:23 Lord_J wrote:
Major looks like he's on a completely different level than the rest of these players. Today, at least.


I'm impressed that he managed to beat LucifroN in TvT on a Bo3.


and completely stomping him in the last 2 games at that, they didnt look close
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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 22:28:33
July 11 2012 22:28 GMT
#884
On July 12 2012 07:23 Lord_J wrote:
Major looks like he's on a completely different level than the rest of these players. Today, at least.

To be fair, he had a relatively easy bracket today. Beat Slush in a BO1 and then played a noname Protoss, Delphi, got a walkover, beat Agh, beat Lucifron 2-1(great result and great games from him!) and then VIBE.

Still, he outclassed most of them.
4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
July 11 2012 22:28 GMT
#885
On July 12 2012 07:21 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 07:19 4ZakeN87 wrote:
It is weird to count select imo... He lived and was raised in Korea until he was 18, only last years he lived in NA. With this kind of logic is Jinro Korean.

It depends on who you ask. Some people would count Jinro as korean now. When mana was asked if Bling was a top 5 protoss in EU and they listed them, they were asked why they didnt include Sase and Naniwa and Mana said it's because he considers them Koreans since they train in Korea. (said this during HSC)


Well it is retarded cause it is completely arbitrary. All of a sudden anyone can be or not be a Korean.

How long do you need to train in Korea to be "korean", 1 day, 1 week, 1 month, 1 year?

If you go back to Europe, how long do you then remain Korean? Do stop being Korean once you landed, or do you keep being Korean for more or less then a month? Or are you forever Korean once you trained in Korea? Is it the same for Koreans? How long must the be outside of Korea to be foreigners? Can Select ever become Korean or is he forever foreigner?

There is no answer for these questions, therefor you cannot define it and therefor is this kind of logic flawed.
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler" Einstein
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
July 11 2012 22:29 GMT
#886
4-gate blink is Fraer's go-to build on Antiga, he already beat Puma with it at Dreamhack.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 11 2012 22:29 GMT
#887
On July 12 2012 07:28 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 07:21 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:19 4ZakeN87 wrote:
It is weird to count select imo... He lived and was raised in Korea until he was 18, only last years he lived in NA. With this kind of logic is Jinro Korean.

It depends on who you ask. Some people would count Jinro as korean now. When mana was asked if Bling was a top 5 protoss in EU and they listed them, they were asked why they didnt include Sase and Naniwa and Mana said it's because he considers them Koreans since they train in Korea. (said this during HSC)


Well it is retarded cause it is completely arbitrary. All of a sudden anyone can be or not be a Korean.

How long do you need to train in Korea to be "korean", 1 day, 1 week, 1 month, 1 year?

If you go back to Europe, how long do you then remain Korean? Do stop being Korean once you landed, or do you keep being Korean for more or less then a month? Or are you forever Korean once you trained in Korea? Is it the same for Koreans? How long must the be outside of Korea to be foreigners? Can Select ever become Korean or is he forever foreigner?

There is no answer for these questions, therefor you cannot define it and therefor is this kind of logic flawed.

I agree. It's all kind of dumb
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iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
July 11 2012 22:30 GMT
#888
How'd I know a counter all in would come game 2. It's so predictable.
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
July 11 2012 22:31 GMT
#889
Blink so strong on this map. GG
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8320 Posts
July 11 2012 22:31 GMT
#890
On July 12 2012 07:27 bikefrog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 07:22 Bagi wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:21 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:19 4ZakeN87 wrote:
It is weird to count select imo... He lived and was raised in Korea until he was 18, only last years he lived in NA. With this kind of logic is Jinro Korean.

It depends on who you ask. Some people would count Jinro as korean now. When mana was asked if Bling was a top 5 protoss in EU and they listed them, they were asked why they didnt include Sase and Naniwa and Mana said it's because he considers them Koreans since they train in Korea. (said this during HSC)

Oh please.

Select plays with a Korean flag, hes Korean.

He plays under the american flag, actually... http://www.teamliquid.net/tournaments/admin/?action=bracket&id=3251.


Exactly.

I really don't understand how this keeps coming up. It's really fucking simple:

IT'S THEIR CHOICE.

HuK (As an example) is a dual citizen of the States and Canada, he chooses to play under the Canadian flag and we love him for it. (Though we'd love him either way). If he wanted to play under a Korean flag because he trained there that would be fine! I mean, it'd be a bit strange, like Lance Armstrong Biking under a swiss flag because he trained in the Alps, but it would be acceptable. This is e-sports. It's a global game and where you're born, shouldn't be the deciding factor in who you play for.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
July 11 2012 22:31 GMT
#891
That was very clean and well executed
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
July 11 2012 22:31 GMT
#892
Fuck that build on Antiga ;;
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
July 11 2012 22:32 GMT
#893
On July 12 2012 07:31 Gosi wrote:
Fuck that build on Antiga ;;

And cloud. Cloud and antiga for that 3 gate robo blink is so sick with that surface area.
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
Thobrik
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden1120 Posts
July 11 2012 22:32 GMT
#894
So apparently blink beats double tech lab on this map...

"Philosophy is questions that may never be answered, Religion is answers that may never be questioned."
Toadvine
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland2234 Posts
July 11 2012 22:32 GMT
#895
Not particularly well played by either player, imo. Fraer running his stalkers into stimmed bio, and Major doing a weird scv pull with no attacking units to support it.
"There are always some Eskimos ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves." - S.J.Lec
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
July 11 2012 22:32 GMT
#896
On July 12 2012 07:29 StarVe wrote:
4-gate blink is Fraer's go-to build on Antiga, he already beat Puma with it at Dreamhack.

Fraer's or every protoss'?I'm surprised major lost to this considering he plays on the korean server and sees it all day.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
July 11 2012 22:32 GMT
#897
nice job by FRAER for sure!
http://fragbite.se/user/117868/silsol since 2006 http://www.reddit.com/u/silsol77
BretZ
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1510 Posts
July 11 2012 22:33 GMT
#898
On July 12 2012 07:31 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 07:27 bikefrog wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:22 Bagi wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:21 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 12 2012 07:19 4ZakeN87 wrote:
It is weird to count select imo... He lived and was raised in Korea until he was 18, only last years he lived in NA. With this kind of logic is Jinro Korean.

It depends on who you ask. Some people would count Jinro as korean now. When mana was asked if Bling was a top 5 protoss in EU and they listed them, they were asked why they didnt include Sase and Naniwa and Mana said it's because he considers them Koreans since they train in Korea. (said this during HSC)

Oh please.

Select plays with a Korean flag, hes Korean.

He plays under the american flag, actually... http://www.teamliquid.net/tournaments/admin/?action=bracket&id=3251.


Exactly.

I really don't understand how this keeps coming up. It's really fucking simple:

IT'S THEIR CHOICE.

HuK (As an example) is a dual citizen of the States and Canada, he chooses to play under the Canadian flag and we love him for it. (Though we'd love him either way). If he wanted to play under a Korean flag because he trained there that would be fine! I mean, it'd be a bit strange, like Lance Armstrong Biking under a swiss flag because he trained in the Alps, but it would be acceptable. This is e-sports. It's a global game and where you're born, shouldn't be the deciding factor in who you play for.



Finally some logic. Why does it matter? No one has established any rules on this, so it's the players choice.
asongdotnet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1060 Posts
July 11 2012 22:35 GMT
#899
wow... i believe real gets in now right? he got an additional 21 points. also with major/fraer taking the winner slot, that frees it up for... jonnyrecco?
Toadvine
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland2234 Posts
July 11 2012 22:35 GMT
#900
Time for proxy marauder, I guess.
"There are always some Eskimos ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves." - S.J.Lec
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