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RUS RO DAH!!!
United States277 Posts
On June 20 2012 00:15 Gryffes wrote: Right because beating Parting ( best toss ) and MKP ( best terran ) in back to back series isn't a huge accomplishment or anything. Mana is best toss. He just won Dreamhack by beating a bunch of top players including Stephano. What has Parting won? Nothing. | ||
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blobrus
4297 Posts
On June 20 2012 00:19 RUS RO DAH!!! wrote: Mana is best toss. He just won Dreamhack by beating a bunch of top players including Stephano. What has Parting won? Nothing. You are joking, correct? | ||
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0neder
United States3733 Posts
On June 20 2012 00:04 avc wrote: Did they make emp and snipe completely unusable? Because I don't think they did. They made them less good, but that's not the same thing. Bad game designers pigeonholed the ghost to be purely anti-caster. There was no reason for that rash decision to be made so early on in the metagame development. | ||
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Ancient-Hunter
Korea (South)142 Posts
Do people really believe Mana is best toss because he won dreamhack? I don't even know where to begin that's so wrong. like if you believe that you seriously must have started watching Sc2 yesterday. | ||
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Chunhyang
Bangladesh1389 Posts
<3 MKP | ||
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SeaSwift
Scotland4486 Posts
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woody60707
United States1863 Posts
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avc
121 Posts
On June 20 2012 00:24 0neder wrote: Bad game designers pigeonholed the ghost to be purely anti-caster. There was no reason for that rash decision to be made so early on in the metagame development. Whether you agree with their decision or not, does their so called new role as an 'anti caster' unit have a value? When you consider how much frustration and complaining is directed at the Infestor as a unit, Zerg players constant use and reliance on it and the overall importance of the Infestor in virtually anything Zerg does. Is this so called anti caster unit not sitting up in his chair in class with his hand in the air begging for the teacher to pick him because he wants to have a go at solving the great problem on the blackboard? Put simply, Infestors are an imposing and essential part of the Zerg army, Ghosts are very useful at nullifying caster units, is it not smart to try and use them against the Infestor? | ||
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SeaSwift
Scotland4486 Posts
On June 20 2012 00:19 RUS RO DAH!!! wrote: Mana is best toss. He just won Dreamhack by beating a bunch of top players including Stephano. What has Parting won? Nothing. I... you must be joking. | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
On June 20 2012 00:35 avc wrote: Whether you agree with their decision or not, does their so called new role as an 'anti caster' unit have a value? ? According to every single professional terran i've seen play tvz, no, they don't have a role. It's quite hard to use them cost effectively imo. the emp range is small, sniping the infestors is harder than you think, they can die really easily to broodlings whilst they try to get in range of the infestors and if they get fungaled it's a nightmare. I've rarely seen a terran player who uses ghosts to try and counter infestors actually keep them alive, it's very hard to do. | ||
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SolidMustard
France1515 Posts
So, sorry for spoilers but here are the winners of remaining groups: Violet, DRG, Taeja and Leenock. You're welcome! | ||
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dearyuna
United States322 Posts
Not really. @UseThis2 - Artosis/theHandsomeNerd has been our team sponsor way before Symbol's winning streak. He's not hyping Symbol because of some ulterior motive or else he'd have done that long before Symbol starting performing well. Just saying. Woke up today to see Symbol advance. woohoo today's gonna be a good day  Wish I had internet at home so I could watch T_T | ||
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ragz_gt
9172 Posts
On June 20 2012 00:35 avc wrote: Whether you agree with their decision or not, does their so called new role as an 'anti caster' unit have a value? When you consider how much frustration and complaining is directed at the Infestor as a unit, Zerg players constant use and reliance on it and the overall importance of the Infestor in virtually anything Zerg does. Is this so called anti caster unit not sitting up in his chair in class with his hand in the air begging for the teacher to pick him because he wants to have a go at solving the great problem on the blackboard? Put simply, Infestors are an imposing and essential part of the Zerg army, Ghosts are very useful at nullifying caster units, is it not smart to try and use them against the Infestor? Because infestors are good against everything like you said, it is very cost effective. Ghosts are only good against infestors, make them not cost effective in engagement. This creates an imbalance where Zerg can make however many infestors they want, while Terran have to make "proper" amount of ghosts to counter infestors. Also due to high difficulty of micro of ghost compared to Infestor fungle, ghosts can not simply nullify infestors in large engagement and end up as dead weight. At the end, it's like "if I build X amount of ghosts I have 50% chance of stopping Y amount of infestors, and 100% screwed if Zerg have more / less". The risk / reward of using ghosts just does not work out in T's favor, which is why no one uses them. | ||
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Chunhyang
Bangladesh1389 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97274 Posts
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
On June 20 2012 00:29 SeaSwift wrote: I'm not surprised by these results, I thought MKP would go before Symbol but oh well - ZvT is kinda Zerg favoured atm so I should have predicted that. Or maybe just because Symbol played like a god today? | ||
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SeaSwift
Scotland4486 Posts
On June 20 2012 01:33 HaXXspetten wrote: Or maybe just because Symbol played like a god today? I wouldn't know, I haven't seen the VODs yet I didn't realise that was a controversial view. | ||
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woody60707
United States1863 Posts
On June 20 2012 01:35 SeaSwift wrote: I wouldn't know, I haven't seen the VODs yet I didn't realise that was a controversial view. The VODs are up now. But the sound isn't working. | ||
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noddy
United Kingdom927 Posts
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
On June 20 2012 01:43 woody60707 wrote: The VODs are up now. But the sound isn't working. Working fine for me. | ||
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