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dragonborn
4781 Posts
On June 19 2012 23:13 ZAiNs wrote: I'm talking about how he beat MarineKing 3-0 in IronSquid. I don't think he won today just because of the patch. Ah sorry, i watched IronSquid games. He countered MKP in every single game. | ||
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usethis2
2164 Posts
Turns out there is an ulterior motive - selling Symbol T-shirts at his shop. Geez. | ||
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SolidMustard
France1515 Posts
On June 19 2012 23:16 dragonborn wrote: Ah sorry, i watched IronSquid games. He countered MKP in every single game. Yeah, I don't see how him cheesing these games takes anuthing from the achievement. He punished MKP for his being too greedy and did it perfectly. And today he proved he can win in the long macro game thanks to superb multi tasking and decision making | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
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zezamer
Finland5701 Posts
On June 19 2012 23:00 usethis2 wrote: I don't think Symbol was exactly a favorite. He's riding a Zerg patch. wtf, symbol was really good pre patch.... | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On June 19 2012 23:16 dragonborn wrote: Ah sorry, i watched IronSquid games. He countered MKP in every single game. Symbol did what needed to be done but it wasn't a tremendous display of skill like today's games were. | ||
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SilverStar
Sweden18511 Posts
On June 19 2012 23:18 usethis2 wrote: And it's annoying to hear Artosis hyping Symbol. (Symbol is the best Zerg in the world and DRG is downgraded to "smartest" Zerg in the world, lol) Turns out there is an ulterior motive - selling Symbol T-shirts at his shop. Geez. Really? Hahaha | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
On June 19 2012 23:22 vthree wrote: The patch affects every game. Did Symbol win just because of patch? No, of course not. But to say the patch had no affect since it went late game is naive. Different strategies are used because of patch and the meta game shifts. It would be like saying the ghosts nerfing didn't matter because the game didn't have ghosts. The nerf IS the reason for lack of ghost. Exactly, since ghost nerf terran has no real answer to late game zerg, and the patch helps zerg get through to this stage of the game  Symbol is obviously a great player though, and showed his skills in that series for all to see. | ||
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avc
121 Posts
On June 19 2012 23:52 AxionSteel wrote: Exactly, since ghost nerf terran has no real answer to late game zerg, and the patch helps zerg get through to this stage of the game Symbol is obviously a great player though, and showed his skills in that series for all to see. Did they make emp and snipe completely unusable? Because I don't think they did. They made them less good, but that's not the same thing. | ||
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
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Isaac
United States810 Posts
On June 20 2012 00:04 avc wrote: Did they make emp and snipe completely unusable? Because I don't think they did. They made them less good, but that's not the same thing. You're logic is flawed. What your saying is that Mass Reaper is viable because it is not completely unusable. | ||
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ragz_gt
9172 Posts
On June 20 2012 00:04 avc wrote: Did they make emp and snipe completely unusable? Because I don't think they did. They made them less good, but that's not the same thing. They made it so that ghost is only good against infestor but absolutely terrible against everything else Zerg have. So you have 12 ghost for infestors, and zerg make BL / Ultra after lose infestors, you are stuck with 20 gas heavy supply that does pretty much nothing. | ||
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aintz
Canada5624 Posts
 they made snipe and emp useless vs zerg. snipe cant even kill a zergling and infestors are humgonous its very very difficult to get good emps off. | ||
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ragz_gt
9172 Posts
On June 20 2012 00:08 HaXXspetten wrote: Well I personally think that today's performance along with his insane GSTL record, Symbol is the world #1 zerg right now, perhaps even #1 player. If he plays the way he did today, he might very well win this season's Code S. (He's a royal roader as well, right?) Yes, he is prob best chance of one we got in a while. However, I don't think he is better than DRG. Symbol sometime (which is pretty often nowadays) does absolutely amazing stuff, but occasionally he have games where you go "WTF??!" In fact, quite similar to MKP in this regard. DRG just plays at one (extremely high) level constantly, and it's really really tough to beat him at that level in a BoX. | ||
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Gryffes
United Kingdom763 Posts
On June 19 2012 23:18 usethis2 wrote: And it's annoying to hear Artosis hyping Symbol. (Symbol is the best Zerg in the world and DRG is downgraded to "smartest" Zerg in the world, lol) Turns out there is an ulterior motive - selling Symbol T-shirts at his shop. Geez. Right because beating Parting ( best toss ) and MKP ( best terran ) in back to back series isn't a huge accomplishment or anything. | ||
Shellshock
United States97274 Posts
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Cokefreak
Finland8094 Posts
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Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
On June 20 2012 00:15 Gryffes wrote: Right because beating Parting ( best toss ) and MKP ( best terran ) in back to back series isn't a huge accomplishment or anything. PartinG as best protoss? | ||
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avc
121 Posts
On June 20 2012 00:08 Isaac wrote: You're logic is flawed. What your saying is that Mass Reaper is viable because it is not completely unusable. I don't remember mentioning Reapers at all actually and nor do I remember saying Ghosts are viable. I just said both of the abilities still work and can still perform a role, whether you deem that role to be of value or not is up to you. On June 20 2012 00:09 ragz_gt wrote: They made it so that ghost is only good against infestor but absolutely terrible against everything else Zerg have. So you have 12 ghost for infestors, and zerg make BL / Ultra after lose infestors, you are stuck with 20 gas heavy supply that does pretty much nothing. Since the Infestor is the lynch pin of virtually any Zerg composition and the main provider of decisive, victorious engagements for Zerg players, I'd personally value any unit which can potentially stop them, or reduce their immense power. | ||
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{ToT}ColmA
Japan3260 Posts
tough group thou, symbol parting and mkp would ve been favourites in any other group too | ||
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