On June 09 2012 11:33 Noocta wrote: Not impressed. Mech is trash ? What's new about that.
Marines will still kill everything and it's all I need.
All the good zerg units still exist
And none of them kill marines so i'm fine with that. Zerg can spend all their gas making silly hydra or viper instead of Infestors or actual scary units.
you really do not understand what the cloud does do you?
HotS is still in development, nothing is set in stone, what we saw is a work in progress. That game just showcased the new units / gameplay features. Balance is totally irrelevant in this case.
On June 09 2012 11:16 Pandain wrote: The sheer dominance that Dongraegu is exhibiting is unparalleled.
I think its safe to say, if you've even glanced at his POV, analyzed his games, realized his greatness and sheer acumen, that he is the best Starcraft 2 player in our history so far. Better than anyone else, even MVP, and I'm talking in his prime.
Obviously we'll have to see if he can keep it up. But the sheer dismantlement of MC, the incredible genius which guides his play, the astounding multitasking, it's not just a transitory moment of power.
Dongraegu is here to stay. And Dongraegu is here to dominate.
He's better a macro player than Nestea, combined with the strategic brilliance of MVP, coupled with the dedication of a champion and the mindset of a bonjwa.
ehhhhhhhhh I don't know about that
Nope, I know, he's wrong.
The legacy of MVP's prime is overstated, and was embellished after the period itself(probably due to overzealous/passionate Starcraft 2 fans). Yes, he was the most dominant starcraft two player of all time so far, but I think Dongraegu surpasses his rivals in skill more than MVP ever did. MVP always had Nestea to worry(and lose) to, he struggled with Leenock, consistantly lost to MMA etc....
Dongraegu, right now, in my opinion which will have to be proven(so I may or may not be retarded), is more dominant skill wise. Eventually he'll be more dominant accomplishment wise, as we'll see with time.
Your facts are wrong -_- Mvp beat Nestea in every series they had except one, MMA was his only real rival. he lost to Leenock once. He's been in the ro4 at least in the past 5 or 6 GSL's. no one else has that consistency.
Look at my previous posts, Blizzcon MVP won 4-3(and Nestea had huge advantage last game.) Since Leenock came to prominence, MVP has multiple times to Leenock, including MLG Providence, GSL ro8(4?), etc.... Your facts are lacking as your limited to GSL I think.
Again I'd like to reiterate how I'm saying DRG is more "dominating" skill wise than MVP was, and how it still has to be proven but just my feeling.
No, just no. Mvp has beaten DRG in their only important encounter, has created so much more for terran than DRG has for zerg. DRG also just doesnt have the long term thinking shared by players like MVP and Flash, ive never seen him go into the game with a 50 miute game plan. And Mvp at his best straight up maphack, which is not something ive seen from DRG( i guess a patch recently fixed that tho). So i disagree with the strategic brilliance. I mean comon even Flash just said Mvp plays the game the same way he does rofl. And in term of achievement/domination, didnt Mvp just win a GSL with the worst race ?
On June 09 2012 11:16 Pandain wrote: The sheer dominance that Dongraegu is exhibiting is unparalleled.
I think its safe to say, if you've even glanced at his POV, analyzed his games, realized his greatness and sheer acumen, that he is the best Starcraft 2 player in our history so far. Better than anyone else, even MVP, and I'm talking in his prime.
Obviously we'll have to see if he can keep it up. But the sheer dismantlement of MC, the incredible genius which guides his play, the astounding multitasking, it's not just a transitory moment of power.
Dongraegu is here to stay. And Dongraegu is here to dominate.
He's better a macro player than Nestea, combined with the strategic brilliance of MVP, coupled with the dedication of a champion and the mindset of a bonjwa.
ehhhhhhhhh I don't know about that
Nope, I know, he's wrong.
The legacy of MVP's prime is overstated, and was embellished after the period itself(probably due to overzealous/passionate Starcraft 2 fans). Yes, he was the most dominant starcraft two player of all time so far, but I think Dongraegu surpasses his rivals in skill more than MVP ever did. MVP always had Nestea to worry(and lose) to, he struggled with Leenock, consistantly lost to MMA etc....
Dongraegu, right now, in my opinion which will have to be proven(so I may or may not be retarded), is more dominant skill wise. Eventually he'll be more dominant accomplishment wise, as we'll see with time.
Your facts are wrong -_- Mvp beat Nestea in every series they had except one, MMA was his only real rival. he lost to Leenock once. He's been in the ro4 at least in the past 5 or 6 GSL's. no one else has that consistency.
Look at my previous posts, Blizzcon MVP won 4-3(and Nestea had huge advantage last game.) Since Leenock came to prominence, MVP has multiple times to Leenock, including MLG Providence, GSL ro8(4?), etc.... Your facts are lacking as your limited to GSL I think.
Again I'd like to reiterate how I'm saying DRG is more "dominating" skill wise than MVP was, and how it still has to be proven but just my feeling.
Mvp vs Leenock is 6-6 including international and Korea, 2-2 in series wins. It's not exactly a landslide either way? And again Mvp has an overwhelming record vs Nestea, I don't have a problem with you saying DRG is more skilled because maybe he is i don't know but at least use real examples.
On June 09 2012 11:16 Pandain wrote: The sheer dominance that Dongraegu is exhibiting is unparalleled.
I think its safe to say, if you've even glanced at his POV, analyzed his games, realized his greatness and sheer acumen, that he is the best Starcraft 2 player in our history so far. Better than anyone else, even MVP, and I'm talking in his prime.
Obviously we'll have to see if he can keep it up. But the sheer dismantlement of MC, the incredible genius which guides his play, the astounding multitasking, it's not just a transitory moment of power.
Dongraegu is here to stay. And Dongraegu is here to dominate.
He's better a macro player than Nestea, combined with the strategic brilliance of MVP, coupled with the dedication of a champion and the mindset of a bonjwa.
ehhhhhhhhh I don't know about that
Nope, I know, he's wrong.
The legacy of MVP's prime is overstated, and was embellished after the period itself(probably due to overzealous/passionate Starcraft 2 fans). Yes, he was the most dominant starcraft two player of all time so far, but I think Dongraegu surpasses his rivals in skill more than MVP ever did. MVP always had Nestea to worry(and lose) to, he struggled with Leenock, consistantly lost to MMA etc....
Dongraegu, right now, in my opinion which will have to be proven(so I may or may not be retarded), is more dominant skill wise. Eventually he'll be more dominant accomplishment wise, as we'll see with time.
Your facts are wrong -_- Mvp beat Nestea in every series they had except one, MMA was his only real rival. he lost to Leenock once. He's been in the ro4 at least in the past 5 or 6 GSL's. no one else has that consistency.
Look at my previous posts, Blizzcon MVP won 4-3(and Nestea had huge advantage last game.) Since Leenock came to prominence, MVP has multiple times to Leenock, including MLG Providence, GSL ro8(4?), etc.... Your facts are lacking as your limited to GSL I think.
Again I'd like to reiterate how I'm saying DRG is more "dominating" skill wise than MVP was, and how it still has to be proven but just my feeling.
No, just no. Mvp has beaten DRG in their only important encounter, has created so much more for terran than DRG has for zerg. DRG also just doesnt have the long term thinking shared by players like MVP and Flash, ive never seen him go into the game with a 50 miute game plan. And Mvp at his best straight up maphack, which is not something ive seen from DRG( i guess a patch recently fixed that tho). So i disagree with the strategic brilliance. I mean comon even Flash just said Mvp plays the game the same way he does rofl. And in term of achievement/domination, didnt Mvp just win a GSL with the worst race ?
Actually this is wrong. DRG 2-0 MVP at Blizzard Cup.
On June 09 2012 11:33 Noocta wrote: Not impressed. Mech is trash ? What's new about that.
Marines will still kill everything and it's all I need.
All the good zerg units still exist
And none of them kill marines so i'm fine with that. Zerg can spend all their gas making silly hydra or viper instead of Infestors or actual scary units.
you really do not understand what the cloud does do you?
On June 09 2012 11:33 Noocta wrote: Not impressed. Mech is trash ? What's new about that.
Marines will still kill everything and it's all I need.
All the good zerg units still exist
And none of them kill marines so i'm fine with that. Zerg can spend all their gas making silly hydra or viper instead of Infestors or actual scary units.
you really do not understand what the cloud does do you?
On June 09 2012 11:33 Jono7272 wrote: Charging ultras are going to be ridiculous :/
It wasn't mentioned that Ultralisks lost their passive ability so they can be stunned/snare in HOTS
Also ultras no longer have a damage bonus vs armoured, but instead vs light. So since they can be stunned maybe the thor's strike cannon would be effective against ultras?
Yes definitely, yet it remains to be seen how cannon is affected by charge >.>
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