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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
June 06 2012 00:03 GMT
#121
Heh; I saw Morrow posting here on TL about doing this exact thing quite recently.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
June 06 2012 00:03 GMT
#122
3rd up from Sheth but lost two queens and about 10-15 Lings to some Hellions.

More Hellions come and Sheth starts with Roaches.
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NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
June 06 2012 00:04 GMT
#123
Wow, Sheth owning it up. Nice to see.
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
June 06 2012 00:04 GMT
#124
Sheth I think tries for a counterattack but a tank comes from MorroW, and there's a bunker on the ramp.
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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
June 06 2012 00:04 GMT
#125
I feel fast third is never worth it as a zerg player on this map.
Macro hatch and tech feel better. I always see zerg get a lot of deficit from the fast third which put theml behind.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
June 06 2012 00:04 GMT
#126
On June 06 2012 09:02 Mordiford wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 08:59 Pirat6662001 wrote:
On June 06 2012 08:57 Mordiford wrote:
On June 06 2012 08:55 Pirat6662001 wrote:
So sad that mouz fell in team power so much, Empire-Liquid are the strongest now


I'd say Fnatic and Complexity are potentially stronger than Liquid.

Honestly- having hard time thinking of Fnatic as a foreigner team. Both Empire and Liquid have really strong foreigners (Sheth, Kas, and 2nd tier- TLO, Happy, Beasty) to give them flavor and water down Koreans.


Fair enough, I'd probably still place Complexity ahead of Team Liquid though. Mouz just needs a solid Terran and they could easily be back on top, I think they're just having a bad match this time around as well.

in terms of foreigners? They have QXC and Minigun but I'd take TLO, Ret, and Sheth over them.
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
June 06 2012 00:05 GMT
#127
+4 raxes with upgrades from MorroW... and another fact.
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
June 06 2012 00:05 GMT
#128
4th coming from Sheth.
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
June 06 2012 00:06 GMT
#129
Lair done from Sheth and his 1-1 isn't too far off either. I think MorroW's seiging up his 3rd.
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Walnuts
Profile Joined March 2012
United States770 Posts
June 06 2012 00:06 GMT
#130
On June 06 2012 08:57 Mordiford wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 08:55 Pirat6662001 wrote:
So sad that mouz fell in team power so much, Empire-Liquid are the strongest now


I'd say Fnatic and Complexity are potentially stronger than Liquid.

How do you get that?
Fnatic has aLive, Oz, Byul, Moon, Nightend, and Tod, right?
Taeja is roughly equal to alive (weaker vT, stronger vZ) and HerO is about equal to Oz (much stronger vT, stronger vZ, but weaker vP). As for for the rest, don't you think Ret Sheth and Zenio are just better overall? Even Haypro Jinro and TLO (if vT) are equal if not better than Fnatic's b-team.

As for coL, idk. Heart, Nada, and ganzi sure look strong on paper, but liquid 3-1 them in EG MCSL, and col is in the loser's bracket of this tournament...
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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
June 06 2012 00:06 GMT
#131
Morrow taking a page out of Flash's book; making a great wall of China.
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
June 06 2012 00:07 GMT
#132
2-2 up for MorroW while Sheth has Spire and Infestors.
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
June 06 2012 00:08 GMT
#133
4th under siege.
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Pirat6662001
Profile Joined January 2011
Russian Federation949 Posts
June 06 2012 00:08 GMT
#134
On June 06 2012 09:02 Mordiford wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 08:59 Pirat6662001 wrote:
On June 06 2012 08:57 Mordiford wrote:
On June 06 2012 08:55 Pirat6662001 wrote:
So sad that mouz fell in team power so much, Empire-Liquid are the strongest now


I'd say Fnatic and Complexity are potentially stronger than Liquid.

Honestly- having hard time thinking of Fnatic as a foreigner team. Both Empire and Liquid have really strong foreigners (Sheth, Kas, and 2nd tier- TLO, Happy, Beasty) to give them flavor and water down Koreans.


Fair enough, I'd probably still place Complexity ahead of Team Liquid though. Mouz just needs a solid Terran and they could easily be back on top, I think they're just having a bad match this time around as well.

I think depends on a format of league, in all kill format Liquid has Tajae and Hero that are good all-killing potential vs any team, while coplexity is bette rin 1v1 format cause they are more solid individualy
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
June 06 2012 00:09 GMT
#135
Zergling flank for Sheth and destroys a huge push from MorrOw.

4th dead for Sheth and MorroW's starting mining from his.

Sheth has his 4th coming back up.
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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
June 06 2012 00:10 GMT
#136
That was a saviOr-esque delay and had he waited for his harass zerglings to get back to the 4th before attacking in with infestors it would have been an incredible turn. Very close, sad it didn't turn out. I don't see how he can recover at this point.
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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
June 06 2012 00:10 GMT
#137
After watching Kas lose everything to nerchio run by in the homestory cup qualifier finals, watching morrow be so prepared against runby is so good.
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
June 06 2012 00:10 GMT
#138
Sheth snuck in a few Infestors in MorroW's base.
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Pirat6662001
Profile Joined January 2011
Russian Federation949 Posts
June 06 2012 00:11 GMT
#139
On June 06 2012 09:10 Noocta wrote:
After watching Kas lose everything to nerchio run by in the homestory cup qualifier finals, watching morrow be so prepared against runby is so good.

Did Kas lose the series? (Nerchio seems to be his Kryptonite)
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Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
June 06 2012 00:11 GMT
#140
On June 06 2012 09:06 Walnuts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 08:57 Mordiford wrote:
On June 06 2012 08:55 Pirat6662001 wrote:
So sad that mouz fell in team power so much, Empire-Liquid are the strongest now


I'd say Fnatic and Complexity are potentially stronger than Liquid.

How do you get that?
Fnatic has aLive, Oz, Byul, Moon, Nightend, and Tod, right?
Taeja is roughly equal to alive (weaker vT, stronger vZ) and HerO is about equal to Oz (much stronger vT, stronger vZ, but weaker vP). As for for the rest, don't you think Ret Sheth and Zenio are just better overall? Even Haypro Jinro and TLO (if vT) are equal if not better than Fnatic's b-team.

As for coL, idk. Heart, Nada, and ganzi sure look strong on paper, but liquid 3-1 them in EG MCSL, and col is in the loser's bracket of this tournament...


Yet Complexity advanced into the playoffs of EG MCSL and Liquid didn't. A lot of EG MCSL is draws though, if some of those draws were switched around you could have seen different results since all the player picks are done blindly. Once again, if you're brining up EG MCSL, Fnatic both beat Liquid 3-1 and is qualifying for the playoffs over them.

It's not that astounding to consider these teams comparable, I'm not saying Liquid is blown out of the water by them, I just think they're a bit better at the moment.


On June 06 2012 09:04 DamageControL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 09:02 Mordiford wrote:
On June 06 2012 08:59 Pirat6662001 wrote:
On June 06 2012 08:57 Mordiford wrote:
On June 06 2012 08:55 Pirat6662001 wrote:
So sad that mouz fell in team power so much, Empire-Liquid are the strongest now


I'd say Fnatic and Complexity are potentially stronger than Liquid.

Honestly- having hard time thinking of Fnatic as a foreigner team. Both Empire and Liquid have really strong foreigners (Sheth, Kas, and 2nd tier- TLO, Happy, Beasty) to give them flavor and water down Koreans.


Fair enough, I'd probably still place Complexity ahead of Team Liquid though. Mouz just needs a solid Terran and they could easily be back on top, I think they're just having a bad match this time around as well.

in terms of foreigners? They have QXC and Minigun but I'd take TLO, Ret, and Sheth over them.


In terms of foreigners alone, I'd say Mouz is still definitely a top team. They might have had a bit of a bad game but all of their players have consistently shown great performances where other team's foreigners have been inconsistent.
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