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GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-01 03:35:32
May 31 2012 20:10 GMT
#1
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Evil Geniuses Master's Cup Series League - Season VII

Friday, Jun 01 1:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)

Website: http://mcsl.evilgeniuses.net/

Stream: http://www.twitch.tv/onemoregametv

Casters: Isaac "Azael" Cummings-Bentley & Bryce "Machine" Bates


Format

The Evil Geniuses Master’s Cup Series League will feature 12 teams in a round robin format with each team matchup containing at least four best of three games between two teams. The top four teams at the end of the season will advance to the playoffs on a two day live broadcast weekend.

Results
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Team Liquid vs. Complexity

TLO <GSL Antiga Shipyard> Heart
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TLO <GSL Antiga Shipyard> Heart
TLO <ESV Cloud Kingdom> Heart


TaeJa <ESV Cloud Kingdom> Minigun
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TaeJa <ESV Cloud Kingdom> Minigun
TaeJa <GSL Daybreak> Minigun


Zenio <GSL Bel'Shir Beach Winter> NaDa
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Zenio <GSL Bel'Shir Beach Winter> NaDa
Zenio <GSL Entombed Valley> NaDa


HerO <GSL Metropolis> GanZi
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HerO <GSL Metropolis> GanZi
HerO <ESV Cloud Kingdom> GanZi


Final Score:
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3-1



Poll
Poll: Who do you think will win?

Team Liquid (42)
 
60%

coL (28)
 
40%

70 total votes

Your vote: Who do you think will win?

(Vote): Team Liquid
(Vote): coL




Lineups

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HayprO
HerO
Jinro
NonY
Ret
Sheth
TaeJa
TLO
Zenio


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GanZi
Goswser
Heart
Killer
Minigun
NaDa
QXC
rsvp
Ryan
Ryze
TriMaster
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Kasu
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom345 Posts
May 31 2012 20:12 GMT
#2
Empire can still qualify if Liquid win, right? Depending on next weeks scores in games?
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
May 31 2012 20:16 GMT
#3
really hard to say... 2-2 to ace i think
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
May 31 2012 20:22 GMT
#4
On June 01 2012 05:16 CeriseCherries wrote:
really hard to say... 2-2 to ace i think


Taeja is almost a guaranteed win. Nada has been even more unimpressive than Zenio lately. Hero vs Ganzi is even. Heart might the only coL player favored, and TLO has shown sick ZvT as well.
I expect 3-1 Liquid.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37024 Posts
May 31 2012 20:25 GMT
#5
Huh......

Now why would coL use Minigun instead of Killer......?
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
May 31 2012 20:33 GMT
#6
On June 01 2012 05:25 SeeKeR wrote:
Huh......

Now why would coL use Minigun instead of Killer......?


Arent they both out anyways
GDbushido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States926 Posts
May 31 2012 20:35 GMT
#7
On June 01 2012 05:25 SeeKeR wrote:
Huh......

Now why would coL use Minigun instead of Killer......?
Because Killer is bad and Mini is a beast.
remember not to think too much and your trip will be numbingly pleasant
Stress
Profile Joined February 2011
United States980 Posts
May 31 2012 20:51 GMT
#8
Should be some cool games, TL wins 3-1 with either TLO or Hero losing.
"Touch my gosu hands." - Tastosis | | fOrGG // MC // Jaedong
Battousai13
Profile Joined September 2010
United States638 Posts
May 31 2012 20:55 GMT
#9
Can Liquid even make the playoffs, after losing to SlayerS awhile back?

Liquid should be able to take this match 3-1 or 3-2. TaeJa and Zenio are guanranteed wins. NaDa has shown pretty big weakness in TvZ throughout the GSL (unlike is BW career).
ZeroSC2
Profile Joined May 2012
Korea (South)668 Posts
May 31 2012 21:33 GMT
#10
will go to the Ace as both teams are quite evenly matched.

fortunately for TL this was played before GSTL to they arent mentally blocked or damaged

Predictions

TLO 1-2 Heart

TaeJa 2-0 Minigun

Zenio 2-1 NaDa

HerO 1-2 GanZi

Ace7

TaeJa 2-1 GanZi

TL scraps a close win.
Flash
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 21:41:46
May 31 2012 21:41 GMT
#11
3-1 or 4-0 Liquid
2-1 TLO/Heart
2-0 TaeJa
2-0 Zenio
2-0 Hero

Paving the way for empire to knock col out of the playoffs
ZeroSC2
Profile Joined May 2012
Korea (South)668 Posts
May 31 2012 21:47 GMT
#12
dude GanZi is beasting right now.
Flash
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
May 31 2012 21:47 GMT
#13
On June 01 2012 05:35 GDbushido wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 05:25 SeeKeR wrote:
Huh......

Now why would coL use Minigun instead of Killer......?
Because Killer is bad and Mini is a beast.


Define "beast"....

GOGO TL!
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
MangoMountain
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2044 Posts
May 31 2012 21:49 GMT
#14
On June 01 2012 05:25 SeeKeR wrote:
Huh......

Now why would coL use Minigun instead of Killer......?

Because you can't really rely on Killer winning games.
Balgrog
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1221 Posts
May 31 2012 22:00 GMT
#15
Ahhhh very excited! Super stoked we are getting more and more into team leagues, love them so much!
The only way to attack structure is with chaos.
LlamaNamedOsama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1900 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 22:02:03
May 31 2012 22:00 GMT
#16
On June 01 2012 06:47 ZeroSC2 wrote:
dude GanZi is beasting right now.


Meh, I predicted Ganzi to win MLG Spring Arena (in the sundance top 8 ranking prediction challenge thing), and he lost in round 2 of both winner's and loser's bracket. He also was knocked out by Alicia, who himself showed some really lackluster games, but still ended up beating Ganzi.

I'm predicting Liquid 4-0

I honestly think zenio vs nada will be a closer match than TLO vs Heart, zenio's play has just been shaky recently, and even when he wins it's only by a very small margin in a very scrappy game.
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Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 22:16:07
May 31 2012 22:14 GMT
#17
As long as Complexity doesn't get manhandled here, and It's Gosu doesn't get demolished by Empire in their match, Complexity should have their spot in the Playoffs. They're looking at a 5 point lead over Empire in the standings with only one match left at the moment.

Looking at the matchups it could go either way but will likely be heavily dependent on Nada vs Zenio and HerO vs Ganzi which are the closest of the two. Heart is heavily favored over TLO and Taeja is favored over Minigun but the other two matchups are too close to call.

Likely a 3-2 victory either way, hoping for Complexity to go through.


On June 01 2012 05:55 Battousai13 wrote:
Can Liquid even make the playoffs, after losing to SlayerS awhile back?

Liquid should be able to take this match 3-1 or 3-2. TaeJa and Zenio are guanranteed wins. NaDa has shown pretty big weakness in TvZ throughout the GSL (unlike is BW career).


Liquid are knocked out. It's down to Empire and Complexity for the last play-off spot and Complexity has the advantage in terms of points.
GDbushido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States926 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 22:42:49
May 31 2012 22:41 GMT
#18
On June 01 2012 06:47 IPA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 05:35 GDbushido wrote:
On June 01 2012 05:25 SeeKeR wrote:
Huh......

Now why would coL use Minigun instead of Killer......?
Because Killer is bad and Mini is a beast.


Define "beast"....

GOGO TL!
He could be the best player America has to offer. Not saying much I know, but the guy's got a lot of talent and for whatever reason just doesn't see much action.

I guess my point is, Killer is a known quantity. Minigun could be great or could be just another NA toss. I'm pretty sure he's been playing LoL recently which isn't going to help, but like I said, the kid's got game.
remember not to think too much and your trip will be numbingly pleasant
ZeroSC2
Profile Joined May 2012
Korea (South)668 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 23:26:56
May 31 2012 23:26 GMT
#19
On June 01 2012 07:00 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 06:47 ZeroSC2 wrote:
dude GanZi is beasting right now.


Meh, I predicted Ganzi to win MLG Spring Arena (in the sundance top 8 ranking prediction challenge thing), and he lost in round 2 of both winner's and loser's bracket. He also was knocked out by Alicia, who himself showed some really lackluster games, but still ended up beating Ganzi.

I'm predicting Liquid 4-0

I honestly think zenio vs nada will be a closer match than TLO vs Heart, zenio's play has just been shaky recently, and even when he wins it's only by a very small margin in a very scrappy game.


you are wearing the Liquid logo, you are being biased.

It will go to the Ace match for sure.
Flash
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
June 01 2012 01:28 GMT
#20
On June 01 2012 07:41 GDbushido wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 06:47 IPA wrote:
On June 01 2012 05:35 GDbushido wrote:
On June 01 2012 05:25 SeeKeR wrote:
Huh......

Now why would coL use Minigun instead of Killer......?
Because Killer is bad and Mini is a beast.


Define "beast"....

GOGO TL!
He could be the best player America has to offer. Not saying much I know, but the guy's got a lot of talent and for whatever reason just doesn't see much action.

I guess my point is, Killer is a known quantity. Minigun could be great or could be just another NA toss. I'm pretty sure he's been playing LoL recently which isn't going to help, but like I said, the kid's got game.

having "game" doesnt make you better than huk
beep boop
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
June 01 2012 01:29 GMT
#21
Bleh, missed the first game. Cheering for TL (except for when Minigun plays)!
Bora Pain minha porra!
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
June 01 2012 01:40 GMT
#22
Aw man ... TLO's play is usually awesome to watch, but his decision making sometimes makes us fans cringe.
Bora Pain minha porra!
ZeroSC2
Profile Joined May 2012
Korea (South)668 Posts
June 01 2012 01:48 GMT
#23
well that was expected
Flash
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
June 01 2012 01:55 GMT
#24
Taeja with the BO advantage ... let's see how minigun plays it out
Bora Pain minha porra!
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
June 01 2012 01:59 GMT
#25
that wasn't a really good timing attack at all. caught taeja by surprise but it's easy to hold off
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
June 01 2012 02:02 GMT
#26
Interesting game ... strange timing for minigun
Bora Pain minha porra!
System42
Profile Joined August 2011
172 Posts
June 01 2012 02:06 GMT
#27
I feel a huge problem with the EG mastesr cup is they run way toooooo many ads like after every match we have to wait like 30 mins for the next game.... its really annoying and that may be why they dont have as many viewers as they would want or expect.
brokenLoL
Profile Joined May 2012
United Kingdom419 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-01 02:27:42
June 01 2012 02:22 GMT
#28
TLO > Heart: DRG beat Heart so his vZ isn't that tough.
Taeja < Minigun: Taeja said it himself that vP is his worse match up.
Zenio < NaDa: Zenio's subpar vT can't beat NaDa's bonjwa powers.
Hero > GanZi: GanZi blows at vP, although he's gotten better but he still sucks.

Edit. Ace match: Hero > NaDa: although NaDa is very solid, he's still not too good at vP due to his loss to InCa.
Save me from myself
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37024 Posts
June 01 2012 02:28 GMT
#29
On June 01 2012 11:22 brokenLoL wrote:
TLO > Heart: DRG beat Heart so his vZ isn't that tough.
Taeja < Minigun: Taeja said it himself that vP is his worse match up.
Zenio < NaDa: Zenio's subpar vT can't beat NaDa's bonjwa powers.
Hero > GanZi: GanZi blows at vP, although he's gotten better but he still sucks.

Edit. Ace match: Hero > NaDa: although NaDa is very solid, he's still not too good at vP due to his loss to InCa.

Mini > TaeJa? ..............

Yeah..... no......

Btw, results are up. You're 0-2 so far :/
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5356 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-01 02:35:27
June 01 2012 02:35 GMT
#30
On June 01 2012 11:22 brokenLoL wrote:
TLO > Heart: DRG beat Heart so his vZ isn't that tough.
Taeja < Minigun: Taeja said it himself that vP is his worse match up.

Zenio < NaDa: Zenio's subpar vT can't beat NaDa's bonjwa powers.
Hero > GanZi: GanZi blows at vP, although he's gotten better but he still sucks.

Edit. Ace match: Hero > NaDa: although NaDa is very solid, he's still not too good at vP due to his loss to InCa.

TROLOLOLO
I wonder if you're usually this bad with your Liquidbets
First of all, TLO ZvT <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< DRG ZvT
Second of all, Taeja saying vP is his worst matchup doesn't mean he can't roflstomp a foreigner who can't even qualify for Code A. Minigun PvT <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Korean PvT.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
June 01 2012 02:35 GMT
#31
On June 01 2012 11:22 brokenLoL wrote:
TLO > Heart: DRG beat Heart so his vZ isn't that tough.
Taeja < Minigun: Taeja said it himself that vP is his worse match up.
Zenio < NaDa: Zenio's subpar vT can't beat NaDa's bonjwa powers.
Hero > GanZi: GanZi blows at vP, although he's gotten better but he still sucks.

Edit. Ace match: Hero > NaDa: although NaDa is very solid, he's still not too good at vP due to his loss to InCa.


First of all, comparing DRG to TLO is quite the different beast, so that is pretty absurd of a comparision.
Two, just because Taeja said vP is his worst MU, doesn't mean he can't beat Minigun, who is pretty average even for a NA player.

BTW, you lost on both predictions so far, and NaDa isn't quite the "Bonjwa" anymore.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Ender2701
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States581 Posts
June 01 2012 02:40 GMT
#32
Wow, Zenio is quite good
ZeroSC2
Profile Joined May 2012
Korea (South)668 Posts
June 01 2012 02:44 GMT
#33
brokenLOL is quite failing hard at predictions this month.

Both TLO and Mini unsurprisingly already felt to the Korean routinees.
Flash
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
June 01 2012 02:49 GMT
#34
Maybe BrokenLoL is secretly getting his predictions backward :O

I honestly think Hero can handle Ganzi though.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Hulavuta
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1252 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-01 02:52:09
June 01 2012 02:50 GMT
#35
Losing to DRG in ZvT means that the terran is bad against zergs? Does that mean MMA and MarineKing are bad in TvZ too? They've both lost to DRG before...

DRG's ZvT is pretty sick, I don't think losing to him means that his TvZ is bad. It might be bad, but losing to DRG isn't really much of an indicator.
Done with Team Liquid for a while. Don't expect to find me here.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37024 Posts
June 01 2012 02:52 GMT
#36
Guys....

I honestly think he just wants to see our reactions. Just ignore plz
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MONXY FIST
Profile Joined November 2009
United States142 Posts
June 01 2012 02:55 GMT
#37
People stop feeding the obvious troll.
None but a coward dares to boast that he has never known fear.
brokenLoL
Profile Joined May 2012
United Kingdom419 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-01 02:56:56
June 01 2012 02:56 GMT
#38
On June 01 2012 11:52 SeeKeR wrote:
Guys....

I honestly think he just wants to see our reactions. Just ignore plz


So just because I have a different viewpoint than you I'm automatically wrong? Think what you want but I seriously thought those results were gonna be right. Guess its a bad day for Minigun and TLO. Even Mvp, NesTea, and MC have bad days so why can't these guys?
Save me from myself
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
June 01 2012 03:01 GMT
#39
To be fair, you were completely wrong [literally] on all of your predictions so far, lol.

I'd like to see an ace but they'd just send out TaeJa and I'm a mostly Hero fan, so I hope Hero wins his series
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Dakure
Profile Joined February 2011
United States513 Posts
June 01 2012 03:03 GMT
#40
On June 01 2012 11:28 SeeKeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 11:22 brokenLoL wrote:
TLO > Heart: DRG beat Heart so his vZ isn't that tough.
Taeja < Minigun: Taeja said it himself that vP is his worse match up.
Zenio < NaDa: Zenio's subpar vT can't beat NaDa's bonjwa powers.
Hero > GanZi: GanZi blows at vP, although he's gotten better but he still sucks.

Edit. Ace match: Hero > NaDa: although NaDa is very solid, he's still not too good at vP due to his loss to InCa.

Mini > TaeJa? ..............

Yeah..... no......

Btw, results are up. You're 0-2 so far :/

0-3 now, right?
gogogogo 0-4!
Good thing there's no liquibet for this, right?
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-01 03:05:50
June 01 2012 03:05 GMT
#41
On June 01 2012 11:56 brokenLoL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 11:52 SeeKeR wrote:
Guys....

I honestly think he just wants to see our reactions. Just ignore plz


So just because I have a different viewpoint than you I'm automatically wrong? Think what you want but I seriously thought those results were gonna be right. Guess its a bad day for Minigun and TLO. Even Mvp, NesTea, and MC have bad days so why can't these guys?


Out of curiousity, were you the guy who bet his friend $500 that Liquid would beat NSH in the GSTL? I see a prediction pattern...
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
brokenLoL
Profile Joined May 2012
United Kingdom419 Posts
June 01 2012 03:05 GMT
#42
Mob mentality at its finest.

Anyway, go hero kill this GanZi kid
Save me from myself
ZeroSC2
Profile Joined May 2012
Korea (South)668 Posts
June 01 2012 03:09 GMT
#43
3-0 so far on Predictions, and now comes coLs endboss.
Flash
BlindKill
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Australia1508 Posts
June 01 2012 03:10 GMT
#44
I wonder if MCSL uses this bo3 format so the few koreans who are levels ahead dont just carry and own the opponent/
“Life is a grindstone, and whether it grinds a man down or polishes him up depends on the stuff he's made of.”
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
June 01 2012 03:10 GMT
#45
Briefly skimming through brokenLoL's history, it's chock full of one-liners, baiting, and borderline posts...just take MONXY FIST(!!!)'s advice and carry on :X

How has hero's PvT been doing? Hope we get to see some good games
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
BlindKill
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Australia1508 Posts
June 01 2012 03:17 GMT
#46
strong Ganzi...
“Life is a grindstone, and whether it grinds a man down or polishes him up depends on the stuff he's made of.”
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-01 03:35:43
June 01 2012 03:33 GMT
#47
Man I was hoping for some good games but Hero is rolling Ganzi, almost rooting for Ganzi to make the games more interesting at this point.

GG Hero! Almost too easy ><
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
June 01 2012 03:36 GMT
#48
Fuuuuck!

Come on It's Gosu!
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-01 03:41:16
June 01 2012 03:37 GMT
#49
alright empire, TL gave you a chance, you better use it

EDIT: They're saying 4-0 means empire goes on, does that mean 3-1 is a tie or will 3-1 knock out empire?
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5356 Posts
June 01 2012 03:40 GMT
#50
On June 01 2012 11:56 brokenLoL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 11:52 SeeKeR wrote:
Guys....

I honestly think he just wants to see our reactions. Just ignore plz


So just because I have a different viewpoint than you I'm automatically wrong? Think what you want but I seriously thought those results were gonna be right. Guess its a bad day for Minigun and TLO. Even Mvp, NesTea, and MC have bad days so why can't these guys?

Even on a good day Minigun and TLO wouldn't have much of a chance against Taeja and Heart.
At least HerO won for you
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
June 01 2012 03:57 GMT
#51
On June 01 2012 12:37 chipmonklord17 wrote:
alright empire, TL gave you a chance, you better use it

EDIT: They're saying 4-0 means empire goes on, does that mean 3-1 is a tie or will 3-1 knock out empire?


3-1 would put Empire at 8 points total.

Complexity is currently at 9 points total after this loss.

Empire needs a 4-0 sweep to get into the playoffs. I'm hoping It's Gosu can manage to take at least one set.
ZeroSC2
Profile Joined May 2012
Korea (South)668 Posts
June 01 2012 03:58 GMT
#52
wow that wasnt the GanZi from MLG Arena...

GGs and Gz to Liquid. At least a weak consolation after their GSTL performance.
Flash
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Where dat snitch at?37024 Posts
June 01 2012 04:19 GMT
#53
On June 01 2012 11:56 brokenLoL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 11:52 SeeKeR wrote:
Guys....

I honestly think he just wants to see our reactions. Just ignore plz


So just because I have a different viewpoint than you I'm automatically wrong? Think what you want but I seriously thought those results were gonna be right. Guess its a bad day for Minigun and TLO. Even Mvp, NesTea, and MC have bad days so why can't these guys?

I'm not going to try to turn this into a flame debate. But it seems I have offended u so I apologize. Now I will try to justify why I said what I said.

a) u claimed that TLO will beat Heart because Heart lost to DRG. As others have mentioned, it is insane to compare TLO's z to DRG's z. Also, Heart is a Code A player with tremendous talent. While I understand why you thought TLO would win, your comparison to DRG was just REALLY out of place.

b) u claimed TaeJa would lose to Minigun. REALLY!?!?? A Code S player who made it to the Round of 8 in the previous GSL is going to lose to a player who has never even been in the GSL? Not to mention Minigun is also average for NA players.

c) u claimed that NaDa would beat Zenio. Your only justification was NaDa's "bonjwa" powers which only existed in BW TIMES. In SC2, NaDa is below average compared to most Koreans.

d) u claimed NaDa would be chosen as the ace. Now in a scenario where if GanZi and Heart were not available that would make sense. But NaDa is a very inconsistent player who is currently in Code B. There is a HUGE low possibility of coL fielding NaDa as the ace, ESPECIALLY when this match would decide whether or not coL advances to the playoffs or not. Also, seriously? NaDa > HerO? HerO who made it to Round of 4 of last season's Code S?

These are all the reasons why I thought you were intentionally saying things just to get a reaction out of us.
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
June 01 2012 04:22 GMT
#54
On June 01 2012 13:19 SeeKeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 11:56 brokenLoL wrote:
On June 01 2012 11:52 SeeKeR wrote:
Guys....

I honestly think he just wants to see our reactions. Just ignore plz


So just because I have a different viewpoint than you I'm automatically wrong? Think what you want but I seriously thought those results were gonna be right. Guess its a bad day for Minigun and TLO. Even Mvp, NesTea, and MC have bad days so why can't these guys?

I'm not going to try to turn this into a flame debate. But it seems I have offended u so I apologize. Now I will try to justify why I said what I said.

a) u claimed that TLO will beat Heart because Heart lost to DRG. As others have mentioned, it is insane to compare TLO's z to DRG's z. Also, Heart is a Code A player with tremendous talent. While I understand why you thought TLO would win, your comparison to DRG was just REALLY out of place.

b) u claimed TaeJa would lose to Minigun. REALLY!?!?? A Code S player who made it to the Round of 8 in the previous GSL is going to lose to a player who has never even been in the GSL? Not to mention Minigun is also average for NA players.

c) u claimed that NaDa would beat Zenio. Your only justification was NaDa's "bonjwa" powers which only existed in BW TIMES. In SC2, NaDa is below average compared to most Koreans.

d) u claimed NaDa would be chosen as the ace. Now in a scenario where if GanZi and Heart were not available that would make sense. But NaDa is a very inconsistent player who is currently in Code B. There is a HUGE low possibility of coL fielding NaDa as the ace, ESPECIALLY when this match would decide whether or not coL advances to the playoffs or not. Also, seriously? NaDa > HerO? HerO who made it to Round of 4 of last season's Code S?

These are all the reasons why I thought you were intentionally saying things just to get a reaction out of us.


You don't need to apologize. Respect is earned
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Apollo_Shards
Profile Joined February 2011
1210 Posts
June 01 2012 04:38 GMT
#55
On June 01 2012 13:19 SeeKeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 11:56 brokenLoL wrote:
On June 01 2012 11:52 SeeKeR wrote:
Guys....

I honestly think he just wants to see our reactions. Just ignore plz


So just because I have a different viewpoint than you I'm automatically wrong? Think what you want but I seriously thought those results were gonna be right. Guess its a bad day for Minigun and TLO. Even Mvp, NesTea, and MC have bad days so why can't these guys?

I'm not going to try to turn this into a flame debate. But it seems I have offended u so I apologize. Now I will try to justify why I said what I said.

a) u claimed that TLO will beat Heart because Heart lost to DRG. As others have mentioned, it is insane to compare TLO's z to DRG's z. Also, Heart is a Code A player with tremendous talent. While I understand why you thought TLO would win, your comparison to DRG was just REALLY out of place.

b) u claimed TaeJa would lose to Minigun. REALLY!?!?? A Code S player who made it to the Round of 8 in the previous GSL is going to lose to a player who has never even been in the GSL? Not to mention Minigun is also average for NA players.

c) u claimed that NaDa would beat Zenio. Your only justification was NaDa's "bonjwa" powers which only existed in BW TIMES. In SC2, NaDa is below average compared to most Koreans.

d) u claimed NaDa would be chosen as the ace. Now in a scenario where if GanZi and Heart were not available that would make sense. But NaDa is a very inconsistent player who is currently in Code B. There is a HUGE low possibility of coL fielding NaDa as the ace, ESPECIALLY when this match would decide whether or not coL advances to the playoffs or not. Also, seriously? NaDa > HerO? HerO who made it to Round of 4 of last season's Code S?

These are all the reasons why I thought you were intentionally saying things just to get a reaction out of us.


You realize that brokenlol is a massive troll?
I have nothing against him but almost every single post he makes is flame bait.
It's marvelous really...
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brokenLoL
Profile Joined May 2012
United Kingdom419 Posts
June 01 2012 04:53 GMT
#56
On June 01 2012 13:19 SeeKeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 11:56 brokenLoL wrote:
On June 01 2012 11:52 SeeKeR wrote:
Guys....

I honestly think he just wants to see our reactions. Just ignore plz


So just because I have a different viewpoint than you I'm automatically wrong? Think what you want but I seriously thought those results were gonna be right. Guess its a bad day for Minigun and TLO. Even Mvp, NesTea, and MC have bad days so why can't these guys?

I'm not going to try to turn this into a flame debate. But it seems I have offended u so I apologize. Now I will try to justify why I said what I said.

a) u claimed that TLO will beat Heart because Heart lost to DRG. As others have mentioned, it is insane to compare TLO's z to DRG's z. Also, Heart is a Code A player with tremendous talent. While I understand why you thought TLO would win, your comparison to DRG was just REALLY out of place.

b) u claimed TaeJa would lose to Minigun. REALLY!?!?? A Code S player who made it to the Round of 8 in the previous GSL is going to lose to a player who has never even been in the GSL? Not to mention Minigun is also average for NA players.

c) u claimed that NaDa would beat Zenio. Your only justification was NaDa's "bonjwa" powers which only existed in BW TIMES. In SC2, NaDa is below average compared to most Koreans.

d) u claimed NaDa would be chosen as the ace. Now in a scenario where if GanZi and Heart were not available that would make sense. But NaDa is a very inconsistent player who is currently in Code B. There is a HUGE low possibility of coL fielding NaDa as the ace, ESPECIALLY when this match would decide whether or not coL advances to the playoffs or not. Also, seriously? NaDa > HerO? HerO who made it to Round of 4 of last season's Code S?

These are all the reasons why I thought you were intentionally saying things just to get a reaction out of us.


I see you forgot to mention NaDa's countless Ro8 and 4's. Hero has been in less quarter and semi finals and only Code S once. NaDa has more exp getting deep in tournaments.
Save me from myself
ZeroSC2
Profile Joined May 2012
Korea (South)668 Posts
June 01 2012 04:59 GMT
#57
On June 01 2012 13:53 brokenLoL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 13:19 SeeKeR wrote:
On June 01 2012 11:56 brokenLoL wrote:
On June 01 2012 11:52 SeeKeR wrote:
Guys....

I honestly think he just wants to see our reactions. Just ignore plz


So just because I have a different viewpoint than you I'm automatically wrong? Think what you want but I seriously thought those results were gonna be right. Guess its a bad day for Minigun and TLO. Even Mvp, NesTea, and MC have bad days so why can't these guys?

I'm not going to try to turn this into a flame debate. But it seems I have offended u so I apologize. Now I will try to justify why I said what I said.

a) u claimed that TLO will beat Heart because Heart lost to DRG. As others have mentioned, it is insane to compare TLO's z to DRG's z. Also, Heart is a Code A player with tremendous talent. While I understand why you thought TLO would win, your comparison to DRG was just REALLY out of place.

b) u claimed TaeJa would lose to Minigun. REALLY!?!?? A Code S player who made it to the Round of 8 in the previous GSL is going to lose to a player who has never even been in the GSL? Not to mention Minigun is also average for NA players.

c) u claimed that NaDa would beat Zenio. Your only justification was NaDa's "bonjwa" powers which only existed in BW TIMES. In SC2, NaDa is below average compared to most Koreans.

d) u claimed NaDa would be chosen as the ace. Now in a scenario where if GanZi and Heart were not available that would make sense. But NaDa is a very inconsistent player who is currently in Code B. There is a HUGE low possibility of coL fielding NaDa as the ace, ESPECIALLY when this match would decide whether or not coL advances to the playoffs or not. Also, seriously? NaDa > HerO? HerO who made it to Round of 4 of last season's Code S?

These are all the reasons why I thought you were intentionally saying things just to get a reaction out of us.


I see you forgot to mention NaDa's countless Ro8 and 4's. Hero has been in less quarter and semi finals and only Code S once. NaDa has more exp getting deep in tournaments.


uhm it seems you are either living in the past or a massive fanboy.

NaDa hasnt shown good results since almost a year.

Sure he is a BW legend, but just like Boxer he cant be taken serious in SC2.
Flash
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37024 Posts
June 01 2012 05:00 GMT
#58
On June 01 2012 13:38 Apollo_Shards wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 13:19 SeeKeR wrote:
On June 01 2012 11:56 brokenLoL wrote:
On June 01 2012 11:52 SeeKeR wrote:
Guys....

I honestly think he just wants to see our reactions. Just ignore plz


So just because I have a different viewpoint than you I'm automatically wrong? Think what you want but I seriously thought those results were gonna be right. Guess its a bad day for Minigun and TLO. Even Mvp, NesTea, and MC have bad days so why can't these guys?

I'm not going to try to turn this into a flame debate. But it seems I have offended u so I apologize. Now I will try to justify why I said what I said.

a) u claimed that TLO will beat Heart because Heart lost to DRG. As others have mentioned, it is insane to compare TLO's z to DRG's z. Also, Heart is a Code A player with tremendous talent. While I understand why you thought TLO would win, your comparison to DRG was just REALLY out of place.

b) u claimed TaeJa would lose to Minigun. REALLY!?!?? A Code S player who made it to the Round of 8 in the previous GSL is going to lose to a player who has never even been in the GSL? Not to mention Minigun is also average for NA players.

c) u claimed that NaDa would beat Zenio. Your only justification was NaDa's "bonjwa" powers which only existed in BW TIMES. In SC2, NaDa is below average compared to most Koreans.

d) u claimed NaDa would be chosen as the ace. Now in a scenario where if GanZi and Heart were not available that would make sense. But NaDa is a very inconsistent player who is currently in Code B. There is a HUGE low possibility of coL fielding NaDa as the ace, ESPECIALLY when this match would decide whether or not coL advances to the playoffs or not. Also, seriously? NaDa > HerO? HerO who made it to Round of 4 of last season's Code S?

These are all the reasons why I thought you were intentionally saying things just to get a reaction out of us.


You realize that brokenlol is a massive troll?
I have nothing against him but almost every single post he makes is flame bait.
It's marvelous really...

Hahaha. <3

I should keep feeding him then. I love helping the needy :D
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5356 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-01 05:03:04
June 01 2012 05:00 GMT
#59
On June 01 2012 13:53 brokenLoL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 13:19 SeeKeR wrote:
On June 01 2012 11:56 brokenLoL wrote:
On June 01 2012 11:52 SeeKeR wrote:
Guys....

I honestly think he just wants to see our reactions. Just ignore plz


So just because I have a different viewpoint than you I'm automatically wrong? Think what you want but I seriously thought those results were gonna be right. Guess its a bad day for Minigun and TLO. Even Mvp, NesTea, and MC have bad days so why can't these guys?

I'm not going to try to turn this into a flame debate. But it seems I have offended u so I apologize. Now I will try to justify why I said what I said.

a) u claimed that TLO will beat Heart because Heart lost to DRG. As others have mentioned, it is insane to compare TLO's z to DRG's z. Also, Heart is a Code A player with tremendous talent. While I understand why you thought TLO would win, your comparison to DRG was just REALLY out of place.

b) u claimed TaeJa would lose to Minigun. REALLY!?!?? A Code S player who made it to the Round of 8 in the previous GSL is going to lose to a player who has never even been in the GSL? Not to mention Minigun is also average for NA players.

c) u claimed that NaDa would beat Zenio. Your only justification was NaDa's "bonjwa" powers which only existed in BW TIMES. In SC2, NaDa is below average compared to most Koreans.

d) u claimed NaDa would be chosen as the ace. Now in a scenario where if GanZi and Heart were not available that would make sense. But NaDa is a very inconsistent player who is currently in Code B. There is a HUGE low possibility of coL fielding NaDa as the ace, ESPECIALLY when this match would decide whether or not coL advances to the playoffs or not. Also, seriously? NaDa > HerO? HerO who made it to Round of 4 of last season's Code S?

These are all the reasons why I thought you were intentionally saying things just to get a reaction out of us.


I see you forgot to mention NaDa's countless Ro8 and 4's. Hero has been in less quarter and semi finals and only Code S once. NaDa has more exp getting deep in tournaments.

Yes, because games in 2011 have SOOOOOO mcuh significance in mid 2012.
and by "countless" you mean three Ro8s and 1 Ro4 GSL appearance. January, March, and May were his Ro8 rusn, with his May being the Ro4.

EDIT: I feel like I'm feeding the troll here, but please...
¯\_(シ)_/¯
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
June 01 2012 05:31 GMT
#60
hahah brokenlol you're funny, keep it up.

but i do wish nada were doing better..
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
June 01 2012 07:24 GMT
#61
Hm, but wasn't nada, up to a certain time considered to be the most consistent sc2 player since, after Clide flew out, he was the only one to be in all the GSL code S?
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37024 Posts
June 01 2012 07:28 GMT
#62
On June 01 2012 16:24 JustPassingBy wrote:
Hm, but wasn't nada, up to a certain time considered to be the most consistent sc2 player since, after Clide flew out, he was the only one to be in all the GSL code S?

This is the current status of SC2. U CANNOT dwell on the past. OR base any predictions based on the past.

How many ppl believed Jinro was going to win it all when he made the seims of GSLs twice?
How many ppl believed Fruitdealer was the bonjwa to be after he astonished everyone with the first ever GSL championship?
How many ppl believed that COUNTLESS PEOPLE (Ensnare, Clide, Alicia, TOP, LosirA, NaDa, JookTo, etc. etc.) were never going to drop out of Code S and keep dominating?
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
June 01 2012 07:44 GMT
#63
I hope Hwangsin gets matched against violet/kas and clean sweep is possible! I believe!!
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
June 01 2012 08:04 GMT
#64
On June 01 2012 16:28 SeeKeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 16:24 JustPassingBy wrote:
Hm, but wasn't nada, up to a certain time considered to be the most consistent sc2 player since, after Clide flew out, he was the only one to be in all the GSL code S?

This is the current status of SC2. U CANNOT dwell on the past. OR base any predictions based on the past.

How many ppl believed Jinro was going to win it all when he made the seims of GSLs twice?
How many ppl believed Fruitdealer was the bonjwa to be after he astonished everyone with the first ever GSL championship?
How many ppl believed that COUNTLESS PEOPLE (Ensnare, Clide, Alicia, TOP, LosirA, NaDa, JookTo, etc. etc.) were never going to drop out of Code S and keep dominating?

Y U BE SO MEAN?

Unfortunately coL.Nada hasn't worked out as I hoped it would. No only have we not seen him in any foreign tournaments, but he hasn't been playing well at all lately.
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ZeroSC2
Profile Joined May 2012
Korea (South)668 Posts
June 01 2012 08:04 GMT
#65
On June 01 2012 16:44 ibo422 wrote:
I hope Hwangsin gets matched against violet/kas and clean sweep is possible! I believe!!


would be fun to see viOlet at the playoffs.

coL just has boring legionaires, though I do think GanZi always trys hard at least.
Flash
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4729 Posts
June 01 2012 08:22 GMT
#66
So if Empire wins 4-0 with ItsGosu they advance instead of Col. Its possible i think. GO Empire!
Pathetic Greta hater.
sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-01 15:35:35
June 01 2012 15:34 GMT
#67
NICE
liquid helping empire after they are already out

ganzi really not impressing lately... maybe because he doesn't have the same practice he had in the slayers house anymore

MY LIFE STARTS NOW ♥
sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-01 15:35:17
June 01 2012 15:34 GMT
#68
oops... quoted myself there...
MY LIFE STARTS NOW ♥
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
June 01 2012 16:19 GMT
#69
Come on EG, open the Empire thread, I want to see the matchups!

Empire fighting! You can do a 4-0!
McFeser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2458 Posts
June 01 2012 16:26 GMT
#70
On June 01 2012 16:24 JustPassingBy wrote:
Hm, but wasn't nada, up to a certain time considered to be the most consistent sc2 player since, after Clide flew out, he was the only one to be in all the GSL code S?

Nestea still holds this distinction.
Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
June 01 2012 16:40 GMT
#71
I'm gonna say 4 - 0 for Team Liquid. As much as I love Minigun, he'll have a pretty hard time. TLO is making progress really fast, Zenio is always good, Taeja is a beast and nothing can stop Hero.
Would be nice to see a good result from them after GSTL and I'm sure it would be great for their confidence as well.
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Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
June 01 2012 16:52 GMT
#72
Koreans will take this for TL! :D
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Balgrog
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1221 Posts
June 01 2012 17:06 GMT
#73
Jea TL!
The only way to attack structure is with chaos.
Kasu
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom345 Posts
June 01 2012 19:05 GMT
#74
So, uh... EU broadcast cancelled or what? Calendar says it started an hour ago and is finished and I never saw the stream up
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