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figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
May 29 2012 10:16 GMT
#1001
This can be adjusted by the coefficient used for ELO. The reason Glicko is more advanced is more subtle than that.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Harrad
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
1003 Posts
May 29 2012 10:16 GMT
#1002
On May 29 2012 19:14 Dali. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 19:12 Iplaythings wrote:
On May 29 2012 19:11 Isken wrote:
On May 29 2012 19:09 felisconcolori wrote:
Is this the real (Z)Life ?

Is it just (T)Fantasy ?

Caught in a land(T)Clide


No escape from (T)Reality


It's only just a (T)Dream
Sareth
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1008 Posts
May 29 2012 10:16 GMT
#1003
On May 29 2012 19:12 Dali. wrote:
I feel like HayprO is a decent ZvZ sniper. Jinro 3rd, TLO 4th and HerO as the ace.

Nonono they don't want to feed another Zerg to ZvZ-lord Life :S
Haypros ZvZ is good, Lifes is godly.
Dali.
Profile Joined June 2010
New Zealand689 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 10:17:29
May 29 2012 10:16 GMT
#1004
On May 29 2012 19:15 zocktol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 19:14 Dali. wrote:
On May 29 2012 19:12 Iplaythings wrote:
On May 29 2012 19:11 Isken wrote:
On May 29 2012 19:09 felisconcolori wrote:
Is this the (T)ReaL (Z)Life ?

Is it (Z)just (T)Fantasy ?

Caught in a landClide


No (T)Escape from Reality


Open your (Z)ice


Look up to the (P)Sky and see

Edit: I have been bested below.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
May 29 2012 10:16 GMT
#1005
On May 29 2012 19:15 Asha` wrote:
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On May 29 2012 19:13 NrGmonk wrote:
It's interesting the map picks and lineup picks in this match. Life picked Daybreak to get rid of good Zerg maps for Liquid. Hero was sent out really early on Entombed to rid the possibility of Entombed being counter picked against one of his teammates.


I kinda disagree with your assessment on the latter part.

I think HerO is sent out on Entombed because PvZ on it is the single best place to combat Life. They really want the best possible shot at stopping Life, avoiding counter pick maps later is good but it's more important to get the win in the first place.


two birds one stone
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
May 29 2012 10:16 GMT
#1006
haha i thought Khaldor didn't want to start the discussion, seems like they did^^
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Fishgle
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2174 Posts
May 29 2012 10:16 GMT
#1007
On May 29 2012 19:15 zocktol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 19:14 Dali. wrote:
On May 29 2012 19:12 Iplaythings wrote:
On May 29 2012 19:11 Isken wrote:
On May 29 2012 19:09 felisconcolori wrote:
Is this the (T)ReaL (Z)Life ?

Is it (Z)just (T)Fantasy ?

Caught in a landClide


No (T)Escape from Reality


Open your (Z)ice

look up to the (P)Sky and (T)Sea !!
aka ChillyGonzalo / GnozL
ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
May 29 2012 10:16 GMT
#1008
If Hero loses, this may end up as an allkill for Life..
repomaniak
Profile Joined January 2009
Poland324 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 10:17:58
May 29 2012 10:16 GMT
#1009
woot system is khaldor speaking of?

nvm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glicko_rating_system
IceSlipper
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Australia1028 Posts
May 29 2012 10:16 GMT
#1010
On May 29 2012 19:15 FakeDeath wrote:
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On May 29 2012 19:13 Inviteme wrote:
liquid knows that Life is the ACE from Zenex.. so it makes all sense to send Hero.. instead of sending someone else to have a higher chance to lose.

if hero wins and lose the next game.. still liquid have a good chance to win.


They still have Harrier/Treme and Line.
I feel like its a mistake to send Hero this early.
Should have kept him as the ace.

Its about whether the other TL players have more of a chance against Life, or against the remaining zenex players.. If they believe they have a greater chance against the remaining players it makes total sense to send out hero here..
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
May 29 2012 10:17 GMT
#1011
Hahaha. What a smart fan.
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
May 29 2012 10:17 GMT
#1012
Korean casters are so funny. So good at killing time :D
Vadrigar
Profile Joined January 2011
Bulgaria2379 Posts
May 29 2012 10:17 GMT
#1013
Missed the beginning. Who's the TL "coach"?
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
May 29 2012 10:17 GMT
#1014
On May 29 2012 19:16 Fishgle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 19:15 zocktol wrote:
On May 29 2012 19:14 Dali. wrote:
On May 29 2012 19:12 Iplaythings wrote:
On May 29 2012 19:11 Isken wrote:
On May 29 2012 19:09 felisconcolori wrote:
Is this the (T)ReaL (Z)Life ?

Is it (Z)just (T)Fantasy ?

Caught in a landClide


No (T)Escape from Reality


Open your (Z)ice

look up to the (P)Sky and (T)Sea !!

Oh god you just topped the guy above...
Rielle
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia91 Posts
May 29 2012 10:17 GMT
#1015
The problem with an ELO is that ALL tournaments have the same weight.

You need to weight each tournament based on the level of players in it...

eg Coca is "apparently" the 3rd best Zerg in Korea all because he had a few good Weekly tournament runs. And who did he beat in those tournaments? Maybe 1 or 2 decent players.

Tournaments need to be weighted based on the class of players in it.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
May 29 2012 10:17 GMT
#1016
On May 29 2012 19:17 Vadrigar wrote:
Missed the beginning. Who's the TL "coach"?


Jinro.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Inviteme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States165 Posts
May 29 2012 10:17 GMT
#1017
w/e.. all kill is about to COME!!!!! GOGO HERO
asdf
Rainfall7711
Profile Joined December 2011
329 Posts
May 29 2012 10:18 GMT
#1018
On May 29 2012 19:13 IceSlipper wrote:
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On May 29 2012 19:12 Rainfall7711 wrote:
Is it just me, or do Khaldor and Wolf talk over each other far too much? I keep noticing it recently and it's becoming more severe. Not bashing them in particular but it seems a problem.

Its not really an issue if one of them would stop, but when it happens it tends to go on for 10 seconds+, which becomes quite unpleasant and annoying.. Other than that great casting..


Yes i feel it will break out in an argument. It's getting to the point where they do it and it seems each wants to get their point out. Kinda destructive.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
May 29 2012 10:18 GMT
#1019
On May 29 2012 19:16 Fishgle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 19:15 zocktol wrote:
On May 29 2012 19:14 Dali. wrote:
On May 29 2012 19:12 Iplaythings wrote:
On May 29 2012 19:11 Isken wrote:
On May 29 2012 19:09 felisconcolori wrote:
Is this the (T)ReaL (Z)Life ?

Is it (Z)just (T)Fantasy ?

Caught in a landClide


No (T)Escape from Reality


Open your (Z)ice

look up to the (P)Sky and (T)Sea !!

I'm just a poor (Z)bOy, I need to no sympathy
In the woods, there lurks..
Broodwurst
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1586 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 10:19:05
May 29 2012 10:18 GMT
#1020

I'm just a poor (Z)bOy

damnit
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