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[Code S] Semi-Final 2012 GSL Season 2 - Page 152
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FairForever
Canada2392 Posts
Balance? | ||
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Mithriel
Netherlands2969 Posts
GOGOG MVP FOR 4th GSL! | ||
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zaMNal
Mongolia384 Posts
Both wrong. Bonjwa. | ||
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zefreak
United States2731 Posts
I fear the foreign disease has gotten ahold of all of you, thinking that anything other than NR20 macro game is because you lack skill or out of desperation. This is how koreans play, they mix up cheese, macro, aggression. Did you all really forget? Or is this just because more and more clueless foreigners are starting to watch GSL? (Thanks Naniwa, now we have L/R's as shitty as the rest) | ||
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kyserbro
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justinpal
United States3810 Posts
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nojok
France15845 Posts
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power-overwhelming
Canada306 Posts
On May 11 2012 01:33 cmcaneff5502 wrote: Are you blind kid? If there is any player in SC2 who has proved himself in ANY type of game, it's mvp. And yes, he cheeses protoss currently. He wins. What other terrans, playing standard late games, are beating protoss? Obviously it's the only way to win the MU currently. But i guess you're the type of person to ignore a player's entire history because of two series. That's really swell of you Calling me a kid doesn't make your arguments any credible. Good luck in TL. MVP has only proven himself in TvT and TvZ. Much like any other top tier players who have 2 good matchups and 1 bad one. My argument was that terrans always QQ when their player get 2 base busted by Toss but when MVP does it they hail him as "punishing greedy openings". Game 1, SCV train, Game 2, 1-1-1, Game 3 he lost standard play, Game 4 was a risky doom drop that paid off. Against Naniwa, all all ins. Just because this season Protoss won macro games off Terran doesn't justify cheese while degrading others. All of you are taking Blizzard's statement on TvP out of context. TvZ is the same, try not to harass a zerg for 15 min and see how it is late game. Terrans NEED to do damage or some form of harass to zerg early game, they all know that, but you don't see them bit by biting every game. Look at the state of ZvP-that-is-not-MC. Max roach rush seems unstoppable but you don't see Toss cheesing their way out of it. I agree MVP has to do what he has to do to win. What I don't agree is fanboys like you bashing other players for doing the same but hailing MVP for doing it. But like I said, there are no double standards in TL, "kid". | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On May 11 2012 02:24 nojok wrote: The mu is balanced for progamers. But terrans suffer versus toss late game at equal low skill. Therefore toss are imbalanced at low skill level, therefore toss are so imba omfg nerf chargelots/colossi/templars/warpgate/what you want. The mu is balanced for progamers. But protoss suffer versus terran 1-1-1 at equal low skill. Therefore terra are imbalanced at low skill level, therefore terra are so imba omfg nerf marines/tanks/banshee/mule/what you want.  Low skill level will never be balanced and some stuff will always require to "outplay" your opponent, simply because the game design is asymetric (and no RTS design has never been different. Don't fool yourself with BW arguements, there are certain times in the MU in which a race does a "standard push/build" in which the race simply will have certain advantages. The beauty of an RTS game is always, how to overcome them) | ||
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
On May 11 2012 02:30 power-overwhelming wrote: Calling me a kid doesn't make your arguments any credible. Good luck in TL. MVP has only proven himself in TvT and TvZ. Much like any other top tier players who have 2 good matchups and 1 bad one. My argument was that terrans always QQ when their player get 2 base busted by Toss but when MVP does it they hail him as "punishing greedy openings". Game 1, SCV train, Game 2, 1-1-1, Game 3 he lost standard play, Game 4 was a risky doom drop that paid off. Against Naniwa, all all ins. Just because this season Protoss won macro games off Terran doesn't justify cheese while degrading others. All of you are taking Blizzard's statement on TvP out of context. TvZ is the same, try not to harass a zerg for 15 min and see how it is late game. Terrans NEED to do damage or some form of harass to zerg early game, they all know that, but you don't see them bit by biting every game. Look at the state of ZvP-that-is-not-MC. Max roach rush seems unstoppable but you don't see Toss cheesing their way out of it. I agree MVP has to do what he has to do to win. What I don't agree is fanboys like you bashing other players for doing the same but hailing MVP for doing it. But like I said, there are no double standards in TL, "kid". His tvt is 67%, tvz is 66%, his tvp is 64%. He hasn't proven his tvp? | ||
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DamageControL
United States4222 Posts
On May 10 2012 22:43 liberate71 wrote: You talking about ForGG/July/NaDa/BoxeR type Elephants? Probably Flash, Bisu, Jaedong type elephants. Yes people are overhyping them. No they won't be the greatest ever. But comparing July to Jaedong is absurd. | ||
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tuho12345
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JiYan
United States3668 Posts
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
On May 11 2012 02:35 rysecake wrote: His tvt is 67%, tvz is 66%, his tvp is 64%. He hasn't proven his tvp? Nah, cause numbers don't fit into his argument. Also he's only beat Parting, and Parting's PvT is abysmal if you look at it from power-overwhelming's point of view. | ||
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Blacktion
United Kingdom1148 Posts
You denyed me 5 liquidbet points and i just dont care! Thank you for saving us from PvP finals! | ||
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GreyKnight
United States4720 Posts
On May 11 2012 02:41 JiYan wrote: mvp will win gsl i think now. both him and parting would beat their opponents imo I think so too. MVPs builds are so well executed with crafty cheeses and mindgames | ||
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Mystgun
Hong Kong311 Posts
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See.Blue
United States2673 Posts
The title for the live report thread for the grand finals should be "The Bonjwa, the Troll and the Metagame: GSL Code S 2012 Season 2 Grand Finals."  | ||
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rhs408
United States904 Posts
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Dankleteer
United States1430 Posts
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