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NASL Sunday Showdown
EG.PuMa vs Quantic.SaSe
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Poll: Who Will Win?Quantic.SaSe (113) 53% EG.PuMa (101) 47% 214 total votes Your vote: Who Will Win? (Vote): EG.PuMa
(Vote): Quantic.SaSe
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What is Sunday Showdown?NASL Sunday Showdown is a weekly event where NASL flys out two of the top Starcraft 2 competitors for a 1 Day $2000 BO7 Showmatch LIVE from Anthill Pub at UC Irvine. The showmatch is streamed and casted live ON SITE and viewers are encouraged to attend the event! 
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SaSe is my favorite player but I really don't think he has much of a chance at this. Only consolation is that puma has king of been slumping recently, losing to ddoro, alecia and some other guys I expected him to beat.
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SaSe, PvT is no problem :D
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Hell yeah! Go SaSe <3
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There should be another poll on who is going to win mining out....
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Canada1637 Posts
On May 09 2012 14:17 OptimusYale wrote:
There should be another poll on who is going to win mining out....
Agree.
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SaSe's 21-7 for PvT in 2012 and he beat PuMa at DreamHack, so he should probably win this.
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Are both of these guys actually being flown out for this? Seems kind of extreme, aren't they both in korea?
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On May 09 2012 13:03 Luepert wrote:
SaSe is my favorite player but I really don't think he has much of a chance at this. Only consolation is that puma has king of been slumping recently, losing to ddoro, alecia and some other guys I expected him to beat.
Dunno why you'd say he has little chance when he's recently gone 2-0 SeleCT, 2-0 ThorZaIN, 2-0 GanZi, 2-1 PuMa, 2-0 ForGG, 2-0 Heart, 2-0 Artist, 2-1 SeleCT
His PvT is pretty dominant, and PuMa's TvP (like most terrans) isn't what it used to be.
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On May 09 2012 14:30 emjaytron wrote:
Are both of these guys actually being flown out for this? Seems kind of extreme, aren't they both in korea?
Do you know what would have been awesome? If Bitterdamn flew out to Korea and they tried to do a barcraft over there .. . . . .
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This is gonna be a close one
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Wouldn't be surprised to see SaSe take it 4-0. Need that revenge for MLG orlando.
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opterown
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sase pretty good!
wow for the last 6 months, the only pvt sase has lost has been to mkp haha
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Can't wait for Mining Out
Also, Sase not in Korea? I thought he just was there for Naniwa's code S match
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On May 09 2012 15:33 opterown wrote:
sase pretty good!
wow for the last 6 months, the only pvt sase has lost has been to mkp haha
BoxeR beat him at MLG Providence as well...that was late November IIRC.
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opterown
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On May 09 2012 15:36 RPR_Tempest wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2012 15:33 opterown wrote:
sase pretty good!
wow for the last 6 months, the only pvt sase has lost has been to mkp haha BoxeR beat him at MLG Providence as well...that was late November IIRC.
close enough to six months 
he's lost some pvt in kr, but internationally never realised it was so good
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I voted for Sase but i expect it to be close, or something like Sase goes 3-0 and then Puma will 1-1-1 4 games in a row.
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On May 09 2012 15:46 Lennient wrote:
I voted for Sase but i expect it to be close, or something like Sase goes 3-0 and then Puma will 1-1-1 4 games in a row.
1-1-1 is far from being the magical problem solver it was 8 months ago
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This could go either way.. I'm giving the edge to Puma.. 4-3!
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I think this is gonna be the closest match of the Barcraft Sunday Showdowns so far. 4-3 either way, but my heart goes to SaSe.
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I haven't seen so much from both lately, even though I like SaSe way more I think PuMa will take this fairly easy. He's best MU is TvP also!
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gl to both of these guys tomorrow, looking forward to it
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I'm rooting for Sase
I think 4-2 brotoss win!
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Looking forward to the results
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As much as I like sase, puma is just too strong tvp x.x
I think puma will win this, but very close games
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expecting at least 3 times 1-1-1 from PuMa :D
go go SaSe~~
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On May 09 2012 13:03 Luepert wrote:
SaSe is my favorite player but I really don't think he has much of a chance at this. Only consolation is that puma has king of been slumping recently, losing to ddoro, alecia and some other guys I expected him to beat.
I don't even know why you'd say your favourite player doesn't have a chance in his best match up. Remember you're talking about the guy who's PvT marineking called better than his TvP. As long as Sase doesn't get nervous he should take this easily.
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Sase has sick pvt cant wait to see this match. Also does anyone know if they will be doing the bulldozer thing?
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On May 09 2012 16:14 drbrown wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2012 15:46 Lennient wrote:
I voted for Sase but i expect it to be close, or something like Sase goes 3-0 and then Puma will 1-1-1 4 games in a row. 1-1-1 is far from being the magical problem solver it was 8 months ago
It's not, but Puma's 1-1-1 is still pretty ferocious.
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On May 13 2012 10:11 Eee wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2012 13:03 Luepert wrote:
SaSe is my favorite player but I really don't think he has much of a chance at this. Only consolation is that puma has king of been slumping recently, losing to ddoro, alecia and some other guys I expected him to beat. I don't even know why you'd say your favourite player doesn't have a chance in his best match up. Remember you're talking about the guy who's PvT marineking called better than his TvP. As long as Sase doesn't get nervous he should take this easily.
Funny thing to say that when MarineKing is like 10-0 vs Sase.
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opterown
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Really hoping Sase takes this, he's so good!
also since this one is subscribers only, are VODS released at all, or only for subscribers maybe? just curious
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Should be really close match. Go PuMa!
Edit: Just realised it's NASL showmatch and PuMa is King of NASL so easy win! x)
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Are there any raffles or contest for spectators at these events?
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On May 14 2012 03:56 TR wrote:
Should be really close match. Go PuMa!
Edit: Just realised it's NASL showmatch and PuMa is King of NASL so easy win! x)
I believe SaSe got there Thursday night and PuMa Saturday night. Jetleg may play a bit of a role.
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Checks time of match in local time.... Finds out it is at 4am on a monday morning.... resolves to stay up to support sase anyway ^^
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On May 09 2012 15:34 SpecFire wrote:Can't wait for Mining Out Also, Sase not in Korea? I thought he just was there for Naniwa's code S match
no you are wrong my united stater friend he has been there for a long time and going strong!
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I am going and I am also bringing a friend along!!!
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Yes!
Starts in a few minutes.
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On May 14 2012 06:45 brokenLoL wrote:
Should I buy?
You should NASL are amasing this season best esport money you will ever spend
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On May 14 2012 11:49 Benjamin99 wrote:You should NASL are amasing this season best esport money you will ever spend
Well I've already spent a good like $300 on GSL I don't know if I want to sub to anther league.
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The first Barcraft Sunday showdown went 4-2...the next went 4-1...then the next was 4-0.
So clearly the result of this must be a 5-0 or a 4- -1
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PuMa will win 4-0 with four 1-1-1's.
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That was a great defense by sase, really good way to split up his army, great g2 ^_^
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puma his focus fire was so good this game, ALWAYS picking off sentry's straight away, but the misclick of sase losing those 3 stalkers really hurted t_t
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Perfect defense in G3 overall by PuMa. Well done.
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On May 14 2012 13:10 Kalza wrote:
Is Sweden even trying>?
no its just 1500 dollars to the winner of course his trying wtf
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Woo Sase. Ties it up 3-3!
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Sase going to 2base Collosi allin in the final game.
edit: nvm, some weird fast collosi into expand build. Sase and Puma both take their thirds.
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Sase wins! Wins 3 games in a row to beat Puma 4-3 after going down 1-3 early on.
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Sase:DD such a great serie!
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Great set, well done Sase!
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Sick set, very well done SaSe! Great start of the day (for us in Europe)
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Scarlet vs Illusion next week!
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On May 14 2012 13:59 BathTubNZ wrote:
Scarlet vs Illusion next week!
Could very well be the battle of the best American player.
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Northern Ireland25283 Posts
On May 14 2012 14:05 Benjamin99 wrote:Could very well be the battle of the best American player.
Really? Come on this overhyping of Scarlet is getting ridiculous
WP SaSe, I stayed up to cheer from afar and he didn't disappoint, sadly didn't get to watch it live though 
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I see SaSe figured out how to stop the 1-1-1. Well he used any 1-1-1 builds knowing PuMa would exclusively do it.
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good job sase
Beating Puma in a BO7 pvt isn't easy... just ask MC
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On May 14 2012 13:59 BathTubNZ wrote:
Scarlet vs Illusion next week!
Wait, is this hopeful wishing or was it announced?
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Didnt get to watch as I'm not a subscriber but happy to hear SaSe won. Been really enjoying his stream lately.
SaSe Hwaiting!!!~
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On May 14 2012 14:38 Geos13 wrote:Wait, is this hopeful wishing or was it announced?
Frotorp announced it at the close of this one.
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congrats sase! nice fight puma!
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Couldnt catch it, was it a good series?
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On May 14 2012 14:06 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 14:05 Benjamin99 wrote:On May 14 2012 13:59 BathTubNZ wrote:
Scarlet vs Illusion next week! Could very well be the battle of the best American player. Really? Come on this overhyping of Scarlet is getting ridiculous
Until Scarlett gives us a reason to doubt her, why shouldn't she be hyped?
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Well done, SaSe! Too bad I didnt manage to seethe games, since I am not a subscriber. btw will the VoDs be free after some time, or is this fully subs only?
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On May 14 2012 15:54 tree.hugger wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 14:06 Wombat_NI wrote:On May 14 2012 14:05 Benjamin99 wrote:On May 14 2012 13:59 BathTubNZ wrote:
Scarlet vs Illusion next week! Could very well be the battle of the best American player. Really? Come on this overhyping of Scarlet is getting ridiculous Until Scarlett gives us a reason to doubt her, why shouldn't she be hyped?
Agree and I remember people telling us we overhyped Stephano and look what he became! Scarlet reminds me alot of Stephano actually in play style and the way she stormed into the scene.
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On May 14 2012 15:54 tree.hugger wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 14:06 Wombat_NI wrote:On May 14 2012 14:05 Benjamin99 wrote:On May 14 2012 13:59 BathTubNZ wrote:
Scarlet vs Illusion next week! Could very well be the battle of the best American player. Really? Come on this overhyping of Scarlet is getting ridiculous Until Scarlett gives us a reason to doubt her, why shouldn't she be hyped?
It's not the hype that bothers me, it's the overhype. People already claiming she's the best American player is pretty ridiculous. What has she actually done apart from win a few female only tournaments, beat an average code-b player in a ZvZ, and take a game off Oz?
Hype is fine, but the amount of hype she's getting is a bit over the top now. People should wait for her to actually start posting notable results before claiming things like her being the best American player.
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"There will be no free stream"
Cool, just like MLG , welcome to my and many others ignorelist. Have fun !
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On May 14 2012 15:54 tree.hugger wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 14:06 Wombat_NI wrote:On May 14 2012 14:05 Benjamin99 wrote:On May 14 2012 13:59 BathTubNZ wrote:
Scarlet vs Illusion next week! Could very well be the battle of the best American player. Really? Come on this overhyping of Scarlet is getting ridiculous Until Scarlett gives us a reason to doubt her, why shouldn't she be hyped?
To consider her better than players like Sheth, idra, Huk (lmfao this is the one that makes me think it's a troll), axslav, and ddoro from 1 lucky run in which she baneling all inned a Code B zerg, had a loss removed by Demuslim (who isn't exactly known for his stellar tournament play), and took 1 game ( a single game, she didnt even win the series using mass roach a move style) is mind- boggling.
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On May 14 2012 16:53 Parcelleus wrote:
"There will be no free stream"
Cool, just like MLG , welcome to my and many others ignorelist. Have fun !
Don't let your butt hit the door on the way out! We just painted a fresh sign on there that says "sustainable eSports".
Grats to SaSe, I should really start watching these things. I hope that NASL is getting enough return from flying people out for showmatches.
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On May 14 2012 16:53 Parcelleus wrote:
"There will be no free stream"
Cool, just like MLG , welcome to my and many others ignorelist. Have fun !
Cool, guess you don't pay attention to the shitload of free content that both NASL and MLG give us. Must be nice that you don't need to pay them a cent for all that.
Nice comeback by Sase here; well done!
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On May 14 2012 17:15 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 16:53 Parcelleus wrote:
"There will be no free stream"
Cool, just like MLG , welcome to my and many others ignorelist. Have fun ! Cool, guess you don't pay attention to the shitload of free content that both NASL and MLG give us. Must be nice that you don't need to pay them a cent for all that. Nice comeback by Sase here; well done!
Maybe you been brainwashed by a couple PPV 'business ventures'. Not me.
Also, When I watch NASL they get income from ads being displayed in my location. Have fun !
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On May 14 2012 16:53 Parcelleus wrote:
"There will be no free stream"
Cool, just like MLG , welcome to my and many others ignorelist. Have fun !
Given you weren't giving them anything to begin I'm pretty sure they don't care. People who won't pay for at least some content are so funny when they get all entitled.
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On May 14 2012 17:24 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 16:53 Parcelleus wrote:
"There will be no free stream"
Cool, just like MLG , welcome to my and many others ignorelist. Have fun ! Given you weren't giving them anything to begin I'm pretty sure they don't care. People who won't pay for at least some content are so funny when they get all entitled.
I have every right to not want to contribute to PPV business ventures.
Just like you have every right to buy into it.
Your choice, I made mine.
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On May 14 2012 17:27 Parcelleus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 17:24 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 14 2012 16:53 Parcelleus wrote:
"There will be no free stream"
Cool, just like MLG , welcome to my and many others ignorelist. Have fun ! Given you weren't giving them anything to begin I'm pretty sure they don't care. People who won't pay for at least some content are so funny when they get all entitled. I have every right to not want to contribute to PPV business ventures. Just like you have every right to buy into it. Your choice, I made mine.
That's fine, but when you're contributing nothing to the scene don't expect your opinion to be worth anything more than zero.
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On May 14 2012 17:30 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 17:27 Parcelleus wrote:On May 14 2012 17:24 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 14 2012 16:53 Parcelleus wrote:
"There will be no free stream"
Cool, just like MLG , welcome to my and many others ignorelist. Have fun ! Given you weren't giving them anything to begin I'm pretty sure they don't care. People who won't pay for at least some content are so funny when they get all entitled. I have every right to not want to contribute to PPV business ventures. Just like you have every right to buy into it. Your choice, I made mine. That's fine, but when you're contributing nothing to the scene don't expect your opinion to be worth anything more than zero.
You are entitled to your opinion of my opinion. Have fun !
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On May 14 2012 17:18 Parcelleus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 17:15 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On May 14 2012 16:53 Parcelleus wrote:
"There will be no free stream"
Cool, just like MLG , welcome to my and many others ignorelist. Have fun ! Cool, guess you don't pay attention to the shitload of free content that both NASL and MLG give us. Must be nice that you don't need to pay them a cent for all that. Nice comeback by Sase here; well done! Maybe you been brainwashed by a couple PPV 'business ventures'. Not me. Also, When I watch NASL they get income from ads being displayed in my location. Have fun !
Glad to see you're supporting our fine community, when you go out of your way to complain about a PPV event when NASL is free pretty much every day (including right before the event showed, during its usual program). You sitting through an advertisement isn't money coming out of your pocket. You're not making any sacrifice. Don't pay for the event if you don't want to, but don't shit on them for wanting to do a special event every once in a while. Plus, I highly doubt that you'll never be watching their (or MLG's) free streams ever again simply because they wanted to run the occasional PPV event, so keep your hypocrisy in mind next time you enjoy their high-quality free content and production they offer to us, because it's hardly free for them.
I'm not saying you need to spend all your money on them, but don't be so critical when bonus events come out. You're acting like a spoiled child, not someone who's so cleverly *above being brainwashed*. It's called being realistic; they are businesses. They give us great content. And you whine about it. On their thread.
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OMG not the - you dont pay PPV so you dont support esports BS.
Have fun!
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On May 14 2012 17:18 Parcelleus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 17:15 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On May 14 2012 16:53 Parcelleus wrote:
"There will be no free stream"
Cool, just like MLG , welcome to my and many others ignorelist. Have fun ! Cool, guess you don't pay attention to the shitload of free content that both NASL and MLG give us. Must be nice that you don't need to pay them a cent for all that. Nice comeback by Sase here; well done! Maybe you been brainwashed by a couple PPV 'business ventures'. Not me. Also, When I watch NASL they get income from ads being displayed in my location. Have fun !
Hey buddy, I'm with you, at least in the aspect that I don't pay to watch people play a video game. But in the grand scheme of things it's really not a big deal if you want to pay or not. Some people like watching this stuff more then others and if they want to pay for it then that's their prerogative. I don't consider them brainwashed. They want a certain product and are willing to pay for it. Nothing wrong with that. If you don't want to pay to watch a video game there are a million other things you could do with your time (99.9% of them being more productive than watching 2 people play SC). There's no need to hate--just do something else. And if you want to watch SC then there are many free tourneys and player streams that you can watch. This whole ppv thing that MLG started has made me realize that there are in fact many other things I should be doing with my time.
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Well Done SASE!!! Good win! Hopefully he can get through to Code A!
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Grats Sase, didn't see it, but wp for the comeback, 3 games in a row!
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On May 14 2012 14:51 GoSuChicken wrote:
Couldnt catch it, was it a good series?
Yeah definitely the best one yet. Great come back by Sase.
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If you dont want to pay, then just simply dont even bother crying here.
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Wooooo SaSe! If only the games would air at a feasible time for us swedes to watch them live 
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On May 14 2012 15:54 tree.hugger wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 14:06 Wombat_NI wrote:On May 14 2012 14:05 Benjamin99 wrote:On May 14 2012 13:59 BathTubNZ wrote:
Scarlet vs Illusion next week! Could very well be the battle of the best American player. Really? Come on this overhyping of Scarlet is getting ridiculous Until Scarlett gives us a reason to doubt her, why shouldn't she be hyped?
More to the point, America is sort of low on top players. Sheth is pretty good. Uh....
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Wow this thread seems to be going downwards, what a shame =( Couldn't catch the event, but gz SaSe!
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Good job SaSe! now you gotta confirm and get your spot in Code A
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On May 14 2012 16:54 xrapture wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 15:54 tree.hugger wrote:On May 14 2012 14:06 Wombat_NI wrote:On May 14 2012 14:05 Benjamin99 wrote:On May 14 2012 13:59 BathTubNZ wrote:
Scarlet vs Illusion next week! Could very well be the battle of the best American player. Really? Come on this overhyping of Scarlet is getting ridiculous Until Scarlett gives us a reason to doubt her, why shouldn't she be hyped? To consider her better than players like Sheth, idra, Huk (lmfao this is the one that makes me think it's a troll), axslav, and ddoro from 1 lucky run in which she baneling all inned a Code B zerg, had a loss removed by Demuslim (who isn't exactly known for his stellar tournament play), and took 1 game ( a single game, she didnt even win the series using mass roach a move style) is mind- boggling.
for the record she beat ddoro at IPL, so until Ddoro beats her back or posts some notable results she is better than Ddoro. and she also beat Demuslim at IPL, who is the second best foreign terran behind Thorzain imho.
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On May 14 2012 21:43 Mario1209 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 16:54 xrapture wrote:On May 14 2012 15:54 tree.hugger wrote:On May 14 2012 14:06 Wombat_NI wrote:On May 14 2012 14:05 Benjamin99 wrote:On May 14 2012 13:59 BathTubNZ wrote:
Scarlet vs Illusion next week! Could very well be the battle of the best American player. Really? Come on this overhyping of Scarlet is getting ridiculous Until Scarlett gives us a reason to doubt her, why shouldn't she be hyped? To consider her better than players like Sheth, idra, Huk (lmfao this is the one that makes me think it's a troll), axslav, and ddoro from 1 lucky run in which she baneling all inned a Code B zerg, had a loss removed by Demuslim (who isn't exactly known for his stellar tournament play), and took 1 game ( a single game, she didnt even win the series using mass roach a move style) is mind- boggling. for the record she beat ddoro at IPL, so until Ddoro beats her back or posts some notable results she is better than Ddoro. and she also beat Demuslim at IPL, who is the second best foreign terran behind Thorzain imho.
Beats her back? What are you, a child? Skill doesn't work like that. ._.
Anyway, more to the topic. Well done SaSe! Great job! :D
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GJ SaSe,
btw, you propably dont know about Scarlett much and the matches she played, trolls. It is not just the IPL, there is more and excellent plays.
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On May 14 2012 21:54 Mirosuu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 21:43 Mario1209 wrote:On May 14 2012 16:54 xrapture wrote:On May 14 2012 15:54 tree.hugger wrote:On May 14 2012 14:06 Wombat_NI wrote:On May 14 2012 14:05 Benjamin99 wrote:On May 14 2012 13:59 BathTubNZ wrote:
Scarlet vs Illusion next week! Could very well be the battle of the best American player. Really? Come on this overhyping of Scarlet is getting ridiculous Until Scarlett gives us a reason to doubt her, why shouldn't she be hyped? To consider her better than players like Sheth, idra, Huk (lmfao this is the one that makes me think it's a troll), axslav, and ddoro from 1 lucky run in which she baneling all inned a Code B zerg, had a loss removed by Demuslim (who isn't exactly known for his stellar tournament play), and took 1 game ( a single game, she didnt even win the series using mass roach a move style) is mind- boggling. for the record she beat ddoro at IPL, so until Ddoro beats her back or posts some notable results she is better than Ddoro. and she also beat Demuslim at IPL, who is the second best foreign terran behind Thorzain imho. Beats her back? What are you, a child? Skill doesn't work like that. ._. Anyway, more to the topic. Well done SaSe! Great job! :D
maybe not, but i also included "or posts notable results" Ddoro has done nothing recently to show he's the better player. where as scarlett has beaten a good number of notable players since they played, including ZeNeXAvenge and TypePhoenix.
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Too close to call. I think PuMa will take it, but it's gonna be really close.
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On May 14 2012 22:46 HaXXspetten wrote:
Too close to call. I think PuMa will take it, but it's gonna be really close.
You know it already happened? ^^
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On May 14 2012 21:43 Mario1209 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 16:54 xrapture wrote:On May 14 2012 15:54 tree.hugger wrote:On May 14 2012 14:06 Wombat_NI wrote:On May 14 2012 14:05 Benjamin99 wrote:On May 14 2012 13:59 BathTubNZ wrote:
Scarlet vs Illusion next week! Could very well be the battle of the best American player. Really? Come on this overhyping of Scarlet is getting ridiculous Until Scarlett gives us a reason to doubt her, why shouldn't she be hyped? To consider her better than players like Sheth, idra, Huk (lmfao this is the one that makes me think it's a troll), axslav, and ddoro from 1 lucky run in which she baneling all inned a Code B zerg, had a loss removed by Demuslim (who isn't exactly known for his stellar tournament play), and took 1 game ( a single game, she didnt even win the series using mass roach a move style) is mind- boggling. for the record she beat ddoro at IPL, so until Ddoro beats her back or posts some notable results she is better than Ddoro. and she also beat Demuslim at IPL, who is the second best foreign terran behind Thorzain imho.
We all have our opinion and I'm fine with that, but demuslin 2nd best foreign terran sounds so wrong in my ears >.<
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On May 14 2012 21:43 Mario1209 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 16:54 xrapture wrote:On May 14 2012 15:54 tree.hugger wrote:On May 14 2012 14:06 Wombat_NI wrote:On May 14 2012 14:05 Benjamin99 wrote:On May 14 2012 13:59 BathTubNZ wrote:
Scarlet vs Illusion next week! Could very well be the battle of the best American player. Really? Come on this overhyping of Scarlet is getting ridiculous Until Scarlett gives us a reason to doubt her, why shouldn't she be hyped? To consider her better than players like Sheth, idra, Huk (lmfao this is the one that makes me think it's a troll), axslav, and ddoro from 1 lucky run in which she baneling all inned a Code B zerg, had a loss removed by Demuslim (who isn't exactly known for his stellar tournament play), and took 1 game ( a single game, she didnt even win the series using mass roach a move style) is mind- boggling. for the record she beat ddoro at IPL, so until Ddoro beats her back or posts some notable results she is better than Ddoro. and she also beat Demuslim at IPL, who is the second best foreign terran behind Thorzain imho.
haha what? That's not how it works.
Like Puma is still a better player than Sase despite this loss because unlike Sase Puma can actually play and defeat players of the Zerg race.
Anyone can win/lose a single best of three it doesn't make you better than someone.
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On May 14 2012 22:54 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 21:43 Mario1209 wrote:On May 14 2012 16:54 xrapture wrote:On May 14 2012 15:54 tree.hugger wrote:On May 14 2012 14:06 Wombat_NI wrote:On May 14 2012 14:05 Benjamin99 wrote:On May 14 2012 13:59 BathTubNZ wrote:
Scarlet vs Illusion next week! Could very well be the battle of the best American player. Really? Come on this overhyping of Scarlet is getting ridiculous Until Scarlett gives us a reason to doubt her, why shouldn't she be hyped? To consider her better than players like Sheth, idra, Huk (lmfao this is the one that makes me think it's a troll), axslav, and ddoro from 1 lucky run in which she baneling all inned a Code B zerg, had a loss removed by Demuslim (who isn't exactly known for his stellar tournament play), and took 1 game ( a single game, she didnt even win the series using mass roach a move style) is mind- boggling. for the record she beat ddoro at IPL, so until Ddoro beats her back or posts some notable results she is better than Ddoro. and she also beat Demuslim at IPL, who is the second best foreign terran behind Thorzain imho. We all have our opinion and I'm fine with that, but demuslin 2nd best foreign terran sounds so wrong in my ears >.<
It does indeed, but he is still very good and stable. Also, imo, one of the most mannered, but that doesnt have to do much with how he plays. Well, IMO, the time when this statement would be right, has passed :/.
On May 14 2012 23:08 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 21:43 Mario1209 wrote:On May 14 2012 16:54 xrapture wrote:On May 14 2012 15:54 tree.hugger wrote:On May 14 2012 14:06 Wombat_NI wrote:On May 14 2012 14:05 Benjamin99 wrote:On May 14 2012 13:59 BathTubNZ wrote:
Scarlet vs Illusion next week! Could very well be the battle of the best American player. Really? Come on this overhyping of Scarlet is getting ridiculous Until Scarlett gives us a reason to doubt her, why shouldn't she be hyped? To consider her better than players like Sheth, idra, Huk (lmfao this is the one that makes me think it's a troll), axslav, and ddoro from 1 lucky run in which she baneling all inned a Code B zerg, had a loss removed by Demuslim (who isn't exactly known for his stellar tournament play), and took 1 game ( a single game, she didnt even win the series using mass roach a move style) is mind- boggling. for the record she beat ddoro at IPL, so until Ddoro beats her back or posts some notable results she is better than Ddoro. and she also beat Demuslim at IPL, who is the second best foreign terran behind Thorzain imho. haha what? That's not how it works. Like Puma is still a better player than Sase despite this loss because unlike Sase Puma can actually play and defeat players of the Zerg race. Anyone can win/lose a single best of three it doesn't make you better than someone.
Yes, anyone can beat anyone in bo3, but if you consider all the latest Scarlett results, see the games and the opponents, you will see its not about IPL and not about luck anymore. Yes, I am a fan, but I am also not blind and realistic.
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we all know cruncher was better than idra for over a year, until he beat him back
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I think its the 3rd or 4th time in a row that SaSe beats puma in a bo3/bo5? At least the 3rd
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On May 14 2012 23:14 nkr wrote:
we all know cruncher was better than idra for over a year, until he beat him back
Actually IdrA beat Cruncher about 2 months after their TSL3 meeting.
On May 14 2012 23:29 zanga wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
I think its the 3rd or 4th time in a row that SaSe beats puma in a bo3/bo5? At least the 3rd
It's the second according to TLPD. Also you don't have to put a spoiler, this is a live report thread, people come here to discuss the results.
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On May 14 2012 23:09 lolspoon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 22:54 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:On May 14 2012 21:43 Mario1209 wrote:On May 14 2012 16:54 xrapture wrote:On May 14 2012 15:54 tree.hugger wrote:On May 14 2012 14:06 Wombat_NI wrote:On May 14 2012 14:05 Benjamin99 wrote:On May 14 2012 13:59 BathTubNZ wrote:
Scarlet vs Illusion next week! Could very well be the battle of the best American player. Really? Come on this overhyping of Scarlet is getting ridiculous Until Scarlett gives us a reason to doubt her, why shouldn't she be hyped? To consider her better than players like Sheth, idra, Huk (lmfao this is the one that makes me think it's a troll), axslav, and ddoro from 1 lucky run in which she baneling all inned a Code B zerg, had a loss removed by Demuslim (who isn't exactly known for his stellar tournament play), and took 1 game ( a single game, she didnt even win the series using mass roach a move style) is mind- boggling. for the record she beat ddoro at IPL, so until Ddoro beats her back or posts some notable results she is better than Ddoro. and she also beat Demuslim at IPL, who is the second best foreign terran behind Thorzain imho. We all have our opinion and I'm fine with that, but demuslin 2nd best foreign terran sounds so wrong in my ears >.< It does indeed, but he is still very good and stable. Also, imo, one of the most mannered, but that doesnt have to do much with how he plays. Well, IMO, the time when this statement would be right, has passed :/. Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 23:08 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 14 2012 21:43 Mario1209 wrote:On May 14 2012 16:54 xrapture wrote:On May 14 2012 15:54 tree.hugger wrote:On May 14 2012 14:06 Wombat_NI wrote:On May 14 2012 14:05 Benjamin99 wrote:On May 14 2012 13:59 BathTubNZ wrote:
Scarlet vs Illusion next week! Could very well be the battle of the best American player. Really? Come on this overhyping of Scarlet is getting ridiculous Until Scarlett gives us a reason to doubt her, why shouldn't she be hyped? To consider her better than players like Sheth, idra, Huk (lmfao this is the one that makes me think it's a troll), axslav, and ddoro from 1 lucky run in which she baneling all inned a Code B zerg, had a loss removed by Demuslim (who isn't exactly known for his stellar tournament play), and took 1 game ( a single game, she didnt even win the series using mass roach a move style) is mind- boggling. for the record she beat ddoro at IPL, so until Ddoro beats her back or posts some notable results she is better than Ddoro. and she also beat Demuslim at IPL, who is the second best foreign terran behind Thorzain imho. haha what? That's not how it works. Like Puma is still a better player than Sase despite this loss because unlike Sase Puma can actually play and defeat players of the Zerg race. Anyone can win/lose a single best of three it doesn't make you better than someone. Yes, anyone can beat anyone in bo3, but if you consider all the latest Scarlett results, see the games and the opponents, you will see its not about IPL and not about luck anymore. Yes, I am a fan, but I am also not blind and realistic.
I don't think the player she's beaten since IPL are anyone's definition of a top end foreigner, nevermind Koreans.
If she starts consistantly beating the mainstays of the foreign scene like White Ra, Kas, Socke, Hasu Obs, Grubby, Dimaga and the like then maybe she can start to be compared to Sheth and Huk.
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Hm, I can't say I'm not surprised. Very pleasantly so, but still.
Nicely done Sase
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Who won Mining Out between these two?
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GJ Sase!!
and can't wait for Illusion v Scarlett. Both of them getting so big quickly, there will definitely be great games.
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On May 15 2012 04:22 hayata2.0 wrote:Who won Mining Out between these two?
Apparently PuMa didn't arrive in time to do Mining Out, however SaSe's pile was the smallest in the entire rankings.
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On May 14 2012 21:43 Mario1209 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 16:54 xrapture wrote:On May 14 2012 15:54 tree.hugger wrote:On May 14 2012 14:06 Wombat_NI wrote:On May 14 2012 14:05 Benjamin99 wrote:On May 14 2012 13:59 BathTubNZ wrote:
Scarlet vs Illusion next week! Could very well be the battle of the best American player. Really? Come on this overhyping of Scarlet is getting ridiculous Until Scarlett gives us a reason to doubt her, why shouldn't she be hyped? To consider her better than players like Sheth, idra, Huk (lmfao this is the one that makes me think it's a troll), axslav, and ddoro from 1 lucky run in which she baneling all inned a Code B zerg, had a loss removed by Demuslim (who isn't exactly known for his stellar tournament play), and took 1 game ( a single game, she didnt even win the series using mass roach a move style) is mind- boggling. for the record she beat ddoro at IPL, so until Ddoro beats her back or posts some notable results she is better than Ddoro. and she also beat Demuslim at IPL, who is the second best foreign terran behind Thorzain imho.
kas, Lucifron, Beastyqt, Happy, Select-- all better than Demuslim.
Also, saying someone is better than someone else because they beat them is pretty idiotic. I guess Demuslim is better than Nestea? Ddoro has made it into the championship bracket of an MLG, and has been one of the stronger NA players for awhile. I just think considering Scarlett one of the best players in NA from winning 2 games (frekin 2 games! Against a B team korean and Demuslim) is too much of a stretch.
Hell, Illusion's run was actually 100x more impressive than Scarlett's, yet Scarlett got a ton more 'hype.'
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On May 14 2012 21:43 Mario1209 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 16:54 xrapture wrote:On May 14 2012 15:54 tree.hugger wrote:On May 14 2012 14:06 Wombat_NI wrote:On May 14 2012 14:05 Benjamin99 wrote:On May 14 2012 13:59 BathTubNZ wrote:
Scarlet vs Illusion next week! Could very well be the battle of the best American player. Really? Come on this overhyping of Scarlet is getting ridiculous Until Scarlett gives us a reason to doubt her, why shouldn't she be hyped? To consider her better than players like Sheth, idra, Huk (lmfao this is the one that makes me think it's a troll), axslav, and ddoro from 1 lucky run in which she baneling all inned a Code B zerg, had a loss removed by Demuslim (who isn't exactly known for his stellar tournament play), and took 1 game ( a single game, she didnt even win the series using mass roach a move style) is mind- boggling. for the record she beat ddoro at IPL, so until Ddoro beats her back or posts some notable results she is better than Ddoro. and she also beat Demuslim at IPL, who is the second best foreign terran behind Thorzain imho.
flawless logic
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On May 14 2012 22:54 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 21:43 Mario1209 wrote:On May 14 2012 16:54 xrapture wrote:On May 14 2012 15:54 tree.hugger wrote:On May 14 2012 14:06 Wombat_NI wrote:On May 14 2012 14:05 Benjamin99 wrote:On May 14 2012 13:59 BathTubNZ wrote:
Scarlet vs Illusion next week! Could very well be the battle of the best American player. Really? Come on this overhyping of Scarlet is getting ridiculous Until Scarlett gives us a reason to doubt her, why shouldn't she be hyped? To consider her better than players like Sheth, idra, Huk (lmfao this is the one that makes me think it's a troll), axslav, and ddoro from 1 lucky run in which she baneling all inned a Code B zerg, had a loss removed by Demuslim (who isn't exactly known for his stellar tournament play), and took 1 game ( a single game, she didnt even win the series using mass roach a move style) is mind- boggling. for the record she beat ddoro at IPL, so until Ddoro beats her back or posts some notable results she is better than Ddoro. and she also beat Demuslim at IPL, who is the second best foreign terran behind Thorzain imho. We all have our opinion and I'm fine with that, but demuslin 2nd best foreign terran sounds so wrong in my ears >.<
LOL
Thorzain being number #1 also sounds very wrong. Scarlett is certainly a good player, perhaps the ace on her old team, but she isn't up to par to some of the top American players.
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