EPTOn April 11 2012 21:18 FinestHour wrote:
How many of those were tvp in the top 8, 4 or finals?
How many of those were tvp in the top 8, 4 or finals?
The final of IPL4 was a TvP? :p
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DrPandaPhD
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The final of IPL4 was a TvP? :p | ||
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noddy
United Kingdom927 Posts
On April 11 2012 21:17 tomatriedes wrote: Terrans just won IPL 4, The Gathering, two MLGs and some other ones I can't remember. Little soon to be whining, no? Doesn't change the fact that TvP requires a lot more of the Terran than it does the Protoss once it gets to the mid/late game. | ||
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
On April 11 2012 21:13 Hypemeup wrote: That mechanical unit will die in 3 immortal shots. It will be armored :| Game is still in alpha stage. Lots of things to balance and stuff. Don't need to worry now. Thing is I still think that you can balance the game in late game for WoL. There's so much potential for changing Thors, Ravens and Battlecruisers so that they make more of an impact in the late game in both TvP and TvZ (now that Ghosts have been nerfed) | ||
Fionn
United States23455 Posts
On April 11 2012 21:16 pdd wrote: Polt deserved it though. And it's not like he had an easy group. On a different day, he could have beaten Parting perhaps. Those games were close. Polt played well against Parting, but didn't look very good against Oz. You can write off the first game as it was Oz going for the super greedy third into a lot of gates where Polt, who didn't see it coming for some reason, let it go up unchallenged and then had to go for a hail mary snipe without medivacs. Second game was just Oz outproducing Polt in the army supply and hitting at a perfect timing. I wish he had used the hellion build on Daybreak against Oz as he did against Parting. If he did, it would have worked to perfection. Polt should beat Sound and if not, he doesn't deserve Code A or S. | ||
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Pure-SC2
United Kingdom1440 Posts
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
On April 11 2012 21:18 Huragius wrote: Because that perfectly reflect state of TvP, no ? The terrans who won these competitions won PvTs on the way there. Also terran is 60-40% over toss in Korea and 54-46% over toss internationally. What the hell more do you want? 70-30? 80-20? | ||
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mikedebo
Canada4341 Posts
On April 11 2012 21:21 Pure-SC2 wrote: Quite a bitter cast today. Not exactly joyful and enlightening. That's what happens when you have children lol Artosis new-dad rage!! | ||
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Meself
Estonia552 Posts
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Perfecto
Philippines156 Posts
On April 11 2012 21:21 tomatriedes wrote: The terrans who won these competitions won PvTs on the way there. Also terran is 60-40% over toss in Korea and 54-46% over toss internationally. What the hell more do you want? 70-30? 80-20?  | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17721 Posts
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Huragius
Lithuania1506 Posts
On April 11 2012 21:19 HaXXspetten wrote: To be fair, only the IPL had a TvP in the finals, but still, I do think Terrans are exaggerating the situation a bit, just look at the latest winrate graphs, like 61% for Terran anyway :o Naming tournaments where Terrans won is a very poor example of how balanced/unbalanced TvP is and that graph with such a small sample size is just a poor bullshit honestly. Also, don't want to start a balance discussion in LR thread so let's cut it out. | ||
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L3g3nd_
New Zealand10461 Posts
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Unfrozious
France11 Posts
On April 11 2012 21:17 Eufouria wrote: I think its just that there is so much to do in these lategame battles. Its hard to look away or your army might get caught in a game ending storm. If a Protoss can build a pylon within a fight I don't know why a Terran couldn't gather all his barracks on one shortcut and click somewhere near the battle happens. | ||
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Vast3r
Spain1 Post
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
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Eufouria
United Kingdom4425 Posts
On April 11 2012 21:22 Die4Ever wrote: lol Artosis, obviously you practice for DongRaeGu by playing against MC's Zerg Maybe MC is actually the best Zerg in the world. | ||
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scypio
Poland2127 Posts
On April 11 2012 21:21 tomatriedes wrote: The terrans who won these competitions won PvTs on the way there. Also terran is 60-40% over toss in Korea and 54-46% over toss internationally. What the hell more do you want? 70-30? 80-20? The winrate does not reflect that TvP lategame just feels so uninspiring. Neither is watching (or executing) the 1-1-1 over and over again. | ||
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
On April 11 2012 21:23 Huragius wrote: Naming tournaments where Terrans won is a very poor example of how balanced/unbalanced TvP is and that graph with such a small sample size is just a poor bullshit honestly. Also, don't want to start a balance discussion in LR thread so let's cut it out. Yeah I guess your feelings trump any facts or statistics that we have. But yeah not this is not the place. | ||
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Perfecto
Philippines156 Posts
On April 11 2012 21:24 HaXXspetten wrote: why does he have so few scv's ? :o Forge fast expand. like against zerg! | ||
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
On April 11 2012 21:21 tomatriedes wrote: The terrans who won these competitions won PvTs on the way there. Also terran is 60-40% over toss in Korea and 54-46% over toss internationally. What the hell more do you want? 70-30? 80-20? Terrans are more flexible and have better tools to win in the early-mid game. Issue is Protosses can win in the early-mid game just as much as Terran can (just look at today for example, with that 8 gate after quick 2nd expo build). The game seems somewhat balanced in that sense, and Protosses are learning to deal with those early-mid game timings. It's virtually impossible for Terran to win when Protosses get up to late game Colossi-chargelot- archon-templar compositions. That's just frustrating to watch as a viewer. (I mostly play Protoss) | ||
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