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Everyone knows the drill by now.

Keep it manner and have a good time.

We'll be watching along with you.
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
April 08 2012 03:44 GMT
#8021
Didn't know there were so many morally superior people here that would, in MKP's position, forfeit a regame and supersede the responsibility that falls on the referee. I suppose you would be perfectly fine to throw your entire team, the people you live and practice with, under a bus just to keep the "integrity" of the game in check.
StimMarine
Profile Joined March 2011
723 Posts
April 08 2012 03:44 GMT
#8022
Despite all the re-game controversy, MKP has been tested to his limits with the subsequent opponents. And now he faces ST's best Zerg.
ayeZuN
Profile Joined June 2011
147 Posts
April 08 2012 03:44 GMT
#8023
Micro? there was none needed right there. Marines are preety strong it seems, being their king must be fun
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
April 08 2012 03:44 GMT
#8024
unless curious reverse wins here this finals doesn't count
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
blinkingangels
Profile Joined June 2011
105 Posts
April 08 2012 03:44 GMT
#8025
MKP is better than parting, he deserves the wins and so does Prime
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
April 08 2012 03:44 GMT
#8026
Curious doesn't feel emotion. Stone faced killed.
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
April 08 2012 03:44 GMT
#8027
On April 08 2012 12:43 blade55555 wrote:
Huh? How the fuck did MKP's army win :o


Medivacs, Squirtle ran out of DPS. Not sure if he should have focused them down, but that was definitely the reason.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
April 08 2012 03:44 GMT
#8028
freaking Bomber... He shoulda taken out MKP he had that game
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
April 08 2012 03:44 GMT
#8029
On April 08 2012 12:42 TheNessman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 12:40 Milkis wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:37 MahE wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:36 Milkis wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:34 MahE wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:33 Milkis wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:32 stormchaser wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:31 Milkis wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:26 Tantaburs wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:24 Milkis wrote:
[quote]

I'm saying that the excuse is bullshit. There was one dropped game in BW and that was literally due to a power outage. Yes, there were regames that were given thanks to hardware issues but because of connectivity? never.


So because it only happened once in BW there was no way it could have happened here?

You have no way of know what happened there is no reason to take your opinion over that of a tech guy on the scene


Your second point is a very fair point. At the same time, I think a probability of a connectivity issue thanks to b.net is far more likely than the excuse that they gave. That is all I'm saying.

i have no idea what you are even talking about. some guy said it was an internet issue. i pointed out that they said it was not an internet issue. so, wtf are you talking about? if it was not an internet issue then it was not an internet issue.


I'm saying it's very very likely an internet issue that they're covering up for PR, because chances of a random hardware failure in the middle of the match is far more slim than b.net finally dropping a game.




Funny to see you in the sc2tournaments forum.


I didn't know I wasn't allowed to watch big events anymore!


What do you think of this:
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Isn't it horrible fucking form for them to do this, even if they aren't outright rigging the match?


if the only thing in their rules was a "regame" then they stuck to their rules. I just hope all the major tournaments think of a better way of dealing with situations like this. This is how the tournament scenes get better and better -- the problem first needs to surface itself. It sucks for parting but I hope StarTale's loss tonight is at least justified in the future by organizers thinking of better solutions.


There IS a system in place. The rule is that in the case of this kind of situation, the game is only a regame if it's impossible to make a call on the winner. Which is NOT the case.


Is it really impossible?

I think nearly every person I've talked to had a very clear idea that Parting had a massive advantage and probably would have rolled it to victory.

My point is: there are better solutions than a "clean" regame to give players who were ahead an advantage, and I hope all the tournament organizers look into them.


I honestly can't think of any solutions besides Re-game, or awarding a win to a player


Make it into a BO3, with Parting ahead 1-0

Let's say Parting had the game 75% won, and Parting can beat MKP 50% of the time. (hypothetically)

Then Parting just needs to win once in the next two games which ends up being 75%.

Another option is to let the regame happen in a map that Parting picks.

Another option is to award StarTale a point, but MKP can keep playing in a regame (okay this is stupid, but it's an "option").

There's many ways to deal with this that transfers an advantage.
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
April 08 2012 03:44 GMT
#8030
On April 08 2012 12:44 hysterial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 12:43 anonymitylol wrote:
Why not SaSe?


Because they want to win.

lmao oh man
Mvp | BoxeR | MarineKing | MC | viOlet | Scarlett | Flash | Bisu | XellOs | Sea | Fantasy | By.Sun
lowercase
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1047 Posts
April 08 2012 03:44 GMT
#8031
On April 08 2012 12:43 tsuxiit wrote:
Parting must want to kill himself Mike Morhaim right now.


FTFY.
That is not dead which can eternal lie...
Lunares
Profile Joined May 2010
United States909 Posts
April 08 2012 03:44 GMT
#8032
Don't understand how squirtle botched that defense so badly without using his probes correctly...
ellirc
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3286 Posts
April 08 2012 03:44 GMT
#8033
On April 08 2012 12:43 TheNessman wrote:
if you were posting in this thread about the disconnect you missed an awesome game for nothing.

Word!
LastDance
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
New Zealand510 Posts
April 08 2012 03:44 GMT
#8034
Nice decision making
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10344 Posts
April 08 2012 03:44 GMT
#8035
Stalkers sure suck, don't they?

I guess it feels like I'm watching SC from the later Beta period: MMM, MMM, MMM, and sometimes tanks.
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
April 08 2012 03:44 GMT
#8036
On April 08 2012 12:43 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
MKP is becoming the first bonjwa of SC2.


Please stop. For fucks sake.
synaptik
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada644 Posts
April 08 2012 03:45 GMT
#8037
On April 08 2012 12:43 anonymitylol wrote:
Why not SaSe?


really? to take out mkp?
Cassel_Castle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States820 Posts
April 08 2012 03:45 GMT
#8038
On April 08 2012 12:44 RaiKageRyu wrote:
I feel like Prime would had more chances with their lineup to beat Parting than StarTale beating having players beating MarineKing.



Exactly, Creator still had a chance to pull things through for Prime, ST does not have the equivalent of Creator.
woody60707
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1863 Posts
April 08 2012 03:45 GMT
#8039
This honestly sucks. These are really great games, but being that MKP should of lost that first game, it just seems hollow.
-Strider-
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico1605 Posts
April 08 2012 03:45 GMT
#8040
On April 08 2012 12:44 Condor Hero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 12:43 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
MKP is becoming the first bonwja of SC2.

hahaha

Not sure if...
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