do one or two players advance from each part of the open bracket? because if its only one, that would mean that either polt or stephano cant make it. ;/
btw kinda funny... these two seem to be destined to face off eternally.
These are my picks for the players who will stand out in their brackets. OB4 really stands out to me because there are a lot of great players in it. Especially Idra who needs to get out of his slump. Jinro can make a great come back as well, and TLO. However, I feel like Idra will get completely rolled over because of his poor attitude towards losses.
OB 1: Stephano | Polt OB 2: Alive | Minigun OB 3: Rain | Symbol OB 4: State | JYP OB 5: Inori | Morrow OB 6: DDE | Vibe OB 7: Illusion | Select OB 8: Thorzain | Hawk
Now let's see how this goes! :D Good luck to everyone!
On March 24 2012 06:59 Serinox wrote: Everyone with predictions: 16 players will advance from the Open Winners Bracket to pool play. This means BOTH players in a Round 6 will advance.
The loser's bracket lets you start at the bottom of the tournament on day3. It would be unbelievable epic if someone won the tournament coming from the Loser's Open bracket.
On March 24 2012 06:59 Serinox wrote: Everyone with predictions: 16 players will advance from the Open Winners Bracket to pool play. This means BOTH players in a Round 6 will advance.
hmm do they have enough computers for all the open bracket matches to be played simultaneously? Haven't seen that many results yet and tournament started an hour ago.
How does MLG seed? Do they only take into account matches won in official MLGs and not other tournaments? Is that why Polt and Stephano are meeting so early?
On March 24 2012 07:26 nkulu wrote: Wow. Polt and Stephano have to meet round 4. One of these players is going to have to do a ridiculous loser bracket run.
Does someone remember the "Polt : 15 matches to win MLG" pic a long ago?
Am I the only one having troubles with the stream? I'm a Gamebattles Premium MLG League Member, WTF IS THAT? I can't watch the ultra and ultimate qualities, I'm getting a massage about a voucher -.-.-.-
On March 24 2012 08:18 adiga wrote: Am I the only one having troubles with the stream? I'm a Gamebattles Premium MLG League Member, WTF IS THAT? I can't watch the ultra and ultimate qualities, I'm getting a massage about a voucher -.-.-.-
You had a silver membership then and didn't read the mail they sent out when they changed their payment plans. Silver memberships are no more, you either buy gold or HD passes for specific tournaments. If you had access to the ultra+ streams then you'd find the voucher in your account settings.
Adam Apicella @MrMLGAdam Reply Retweeted Favorite · Open We don't have enough upvotes on reddit to do polt vs stephano @Mlg. How bad do you guys want it? Rt and upvote!! @CallMeTasteless @Artosis
Sean Plott @day9tv Reply Retweet Favorite · Open Well well well. @djWHEAT and myself have volunteered to stay longer on Day 1 to cast Stephano vs Polt. The choice was not hard. SC2>Sleep
Open Bracket #1: Polt Open Bracket #2: aLive Open Bracket #3: Rain Open Bracket #4: JYP Open Bracket #5: MorroW Open Bracket #6: PuMa Open Bracket #7: SeleCT Open Bracket #8: ThorZain
Open Bracket #1: Polt Open Bracket #2: aLive Open Bracket #3: Rain Open Bracket #4: JYP Open Bracket #5: MorroW Open Bracket #6: PuMa Open Bracket #7: SeleCT Open Bracket #8: ThorZain
Bye Bye Stephano xD
well Stephano beat polt last time twice... pretty convincing
On March 24 2012 12:02 PauseBreak wrote: Wow, looks like the Polt and Stephano match will be broadcasted as a bonus match! :D Artosis and Tasteless just broke the news.
Wowww round 4 of the open bracket is already pretty damn stacked even without a lot of the koerans coming. Round 5 just gets even better with the players who were at the Arena.
No, that was a bad game, entertaining, but bad. Lot of mistakes, Stephano early game was sloppy, Polt should have won midgame but lacked initiative, then Stephano had the game and completely threw it away, even with better reprod and Polt not mining.
On March 24 2012 13:04 Ylrahc wrote: No, that was a bad game, entertaining, but bad. Lot of mistakes, Stephano early game was sloppy, Polt should have won midgame but lacked initiative, then Stephano had the game and completely threw it away, even with better reprod and Polt not mining.
On March 24 2012 13:04 Ylrahc wrote: No, that was a bad game, entertaining, but bad. Lot of mistakes, Stephano early game was sloppy, Polt should have won midgame but lacked initiative, then Stephano had the game and completely threw it away, even with better reprod and Polt not mining.
Not sure if serious... was a great game.
no, games they produced at ASUS or Lone Star Crash were much better, more refined. Don't get me wrong, this one was very entertaining with lot of back and forth action, but the mistakes were obvious. I wasn't in awe thinking "hell it's beautiful, how is it possible to play so well", but more "gah, stop throwing advantages away guys >.<"
Aaaand close pose Metalopolis, 2 - 0, welcome back in LB Stephano :-( Or maybe not, much better opening from Stephano.
Game 2 was much better in the sense there were less errors, especially on Stephano's side who macroed and defended drops perfectly, but much less entertaining Polt played way too passive though, he could have done a lot more damage with hellions and persisted with random fail drops even after Stephano got infestors.
With round 4 complete, i think it looks like the players getting into groups are: Polt, aLive, symbol (this could go to a couple people depending on how Rain and killer play. would be surprised to see drewbie advance seeing as symbol is pretty good against terrans), either JYP or Jinro probably, Heart, Golden (Puma's TvZ strikes again!), Crazymoving, and winner of Bling and Thorzain
On March 24 2012 17:55 Shellshock1122 wrote: With round 4 complete, i think it looks like the players getting into groups are: Polt, aLive, symbol (this could go to a couple people depending on how Rain and killer play. would be surprised to see drewbie advance seeing as symbol is pretty good against terrans), either JYP or Jinro probably, Heart, Golden (Puma's TvZ strikes again!), Crazymoving, and winner of Bling and Thorzain
Puma's TvZ is still sick good and I'd give idra the edge over jinro then jyp will dismantle him. Most favourites will make it out of the open bracket though so ...... :D
The guy who mades the seeds of the open bracket should be .... Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ?? Why would you draw a bracket where the two best players of your tournament meet so early ?
On March 24 2012 18:53 AIOL! wrote: The guy who mades the seeds of the open bracket should be .... Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ?? Why would you draw a bracket where the two best players of your tournament meet so early ?
On March 24 2012 18:53 AIOL! wrote: The guy who mades the seeds of the open bracket should be .... Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ?? Why would you draw a bracket where the two best players of your tournament meet so early ?
So in other words they should rig the bracket to ensure Stephano and Polt aren't in the same bracket?
On March 24 2012 18:53 AIOL! wrote: The guy who mades the seeds of the open bracket should be .... Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ?? Why would you draw a bracket where the two best players of your tournament meet so early ?
So in other words they should rig the bracket to ensure Stephano and Polt aren't in the same bracket?
Right.
they should use common sense and implement seeding so they don't have to rig anything, stephano and polt meeting in round 4 is just dumb
On March 24 2012 18:53 AIOL! wrote: The guy who mades the seeds of the open bracket should be .... Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ?? Why would you draw a bracket where the two best players of your tournament meet so early ?
So in other words they should rig the bracket to ensure Stephano and Polt aren't in the same bracket?
Right.
they should use common sense and implement seeding so they don't have to rig anything, stephano and polt meeting in round 4 is just dumb
THERE WERE ALREADY CHANCES FOR THEM TO BE SEEDED.
If they wanted a seed they should have qualified (Polt) or tried to qualify (Stephano) for Winter Arena. Your suggestion that every person who enters the Open Bracket being given a seed is beyond retarded. If it wasn't Stephano vs Polt, it would have been Polt vs Symbol or Polt vs aLive or another such unfortunate match. When so many good players enter the open bracket, this is the kind of thing that happens and there's nothing anyone can do about it. Deal with it.
they should use common sense and implement seeding so they don't have to rig anything, stephano and polt meeting in round 4 is just dumb
It is dumb that they met so early in the tournament, but at least we got some good games from it. At least Stephano isn't entirely out of the tournament so we will probably get to see more of him this weekend.
On March 24 2012 18:53 AIOL! wrote: The guy who mades the seeds of the open bracket should be .... Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ?? Why would you draw a bracket where the two best players of your tournament meet so early ?
So in other words they should rig the bracket to ensure Stephano and Polt aren't in the same bracket?
Right.
they should use common sense and implement seeding so they don't have to rig anything, stephano and polt meeting in round 4 is just dumb
THERE WERE ALREADY CHANCES FOR THEM TO BE SEEDED.
If they wanted a seed they should have qualified (Polt) or tried to qualify (Stephano) for Winter Arena. Your suggestion that every person who enters the Open Bracket being given a seed is beyond retarded. If it wasn't Stephano vs Polt, it would have been Polt vs Symbol or Polt vs aLive or another such unfortunate match. When so many good players enter the open bracket, this is the kind of thing that happens and there's nothing anyone can do about it. Deal with it.
MLG isn't the only tournament in the world, other tournaments use seedings from elsewhere , why couldn't they? This IS dumb, there is no way around it.
its sad being a steph fan when you see how other steph fans are so dumb, Polt and steph arent the top 2 of this god damn stacked tourny, no matter what way u put it...
On March 24 2012 18:53 AIOL! wrote: The guy who mades the seeds of the open bracket should be .... Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ?? Why would you draw a bracket where the two best players of your tournament meet so early ?
So in other words they should rig the bracket to ensure Stephano and Polt aren't in the same bracket?
Right.
they should use common sense and implement seeding so they don't have to rig anything, stephano and polt meeting in round 4 is just dumb
THERE WERE ALREADY CHANCES FOR THEM TO BE SEEDED.
If they wanted a seed they should have qualified (Polt) or tried to qualify (Stephano) for Winter Arena. Your suggestion that every person who enters the Open Bracket being given a seed is beyond retarded. If it wasn't Stephano vs Polt, it would have been Polt vs Symbol or Polt vs aLive or another such unfortunate match. When so many good players enter the open bracket, this is the kind of thing that happens and there's nothing anyone can do about it. Deal with it.
MLG isn't the only tournament in the world, other tournaments use seedings from elsewhere , why couldn't they? This IS dumb, there is no way around it.
actually, they were seeded since they had previous mlg points they both ended up having bye's in the first round. its just how the seeding worked.
Oh and they certainly arent the two best players in the tournament. DRG and MKP have that title
On March 24 2012 19:31 X3GoldDot wrote: its sad being a steph fan when you see how other steph fans are so dumb, Polt and steph arent the top 2 of this god damn stacked tourny, no matter what way u put it...
People aren't saying that Polt and Stephano are top 2 in the entire tourny. But 2 of the strongest in the open bracket meeting so early is pretty crappy =(.
Jesus christ Steph fans are so self centered, the tournament is not setup around just one player you know? There're plenty of other top level players in the tournaments, and there other players with bad draws. That's just how it works out, and others just deal with it. If steph won over Polt none of you guys would be in here protesting how "unfair" this is.
On March 24 2012 18:53 AIOL! wrote: The guy who mades the seeds of the open bracket should be .... Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ?? Why would you draw a bracket where the two best players of your tournament meet so early ?
So in other words they should rig the bracket to ensure Stephano and Polt aren't in the same bracket?
Right.
they should use common sense and implement seeding so they don't have to rig anything, stephano and polt meeting in round 4 is just dumb
THERE WERE ALREADY CHANCES FOR THEM TO BE SEEDED.
If they wanted a seed they should have qualified (Polt) or tried to qualify (Stephano) for Winter Arena. Your suggestion that every person who enters the Open Bracket being given a seed is beyond retarded. If it wasn't Stephano vs Polt, it would have been Polt vs Symbol or Polt vs aLive or another such unfortunate match. When so many good players enter the open bracket, this is the kind of thing that happens and there's nothing anyone can do about it. Deal with it.
i understand your point of view, but polt vs stephano needs to be a semifinal match (they can't be in the same bracket) but of course this is impossible since they did not go to winter arena
On March 24 2012 19:43 Fatmofo wrote: Jesus christ Steph fans are so self centered, the tournament is not setup around just one player you know? There're plenty of other top level players in the tournaments, and there other players with bad draws. That's just how it works out, and others just deal with it. If steph won over Polt none of you guys would be in here protesting how "unfair" this is.
?? I'd have been equally hurt to have Polt in the loser's bracket in round 4. Don't speak bullshit.
I still find it dumb to only seed open bracket on account of MLG points, completely disregarding every other event in the world, ever. Like... code S/A players in the Open bracket could get some seeds to make sure they don't meet early on, seeing the previous MLG/GSL partnership. It maybe wouldn't have mattered this time, and avoided neither polt/stephano, not Sleep/Symbol in r2 (WTF), but it could help eventually.
Or maybe the winners of previous tournaments, though that would be more difficult.
I'm just pissed by the "only our results matter and the rest of the world we don't give a shit about"-style of MLG.
On March 24 2012 18:53 AIOL! wrote: The guy who mades the seeds of the open bracket should be .... Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ?? Why would you draw a bracket where the two best players of your tournament meet so early ?
So in other words they should rig the bracket to ensure Stephano and Polt aren't in the same bracket?
Right.
they should use common sense and implement seeding so they don't have to rig anything, stephano and polt meeting in round 4 is just dumb
THERE WERE ALREADY CHANCES FOR THEM TO BE SEEDED.
If they wanted a seed they should have qualified (Polt) or tried to qualify (Stephano) for Winter Arena. Your suggestion that every person who enters the Open Bracket being given a seed is beyond retarded. If it wasn't Stephano vs Polt, it would have been Polt vs Symbol or Polt vs aLive or another such unfortunate match. When so many good players enter the open bracket, this is the kind of thing that happens and there's nothing anyone can do about it. Deal with it.
MLG isn't the only tournament in the world, other tournaments use seedings from elsewhere , why couldn't they? This IS dumb, there is no way around it.
actually, they were seeded since they had previous mlg points they both ended up having bye's in the first round. its just how the seeding worked.
Oh and they certainly arent the two best players in the tournament. DRG and MKP have that title
I think he meant the open bracket, as it was the only thing, where this seeding has an effect. And they are two of the best three players in the open bracket (third one is aLive). And if two of the best three players in the open bracket collide in round 4, whereas guys like Glon, Nony, RuFF or wbc have an easy bracket to get in round 5, the seeding is bad.
On March 24 2012 19:59 Nouar wrote: Additionnally, not mixing up players when you have EIGHT brackets, IE meaning in the LB you meet the guys who were in your WB section is dumb as well.
On March 24 2012 19:59 Nouar wrote: Additionnally, not mixing up players when you have EIGHT brackets, IE meaning in the LB you meet the guys who were in your WB section is dumb as well.
They are mixing per rounds. But if you're in WB3 Group 1, all the people losing from your group at that round will get into the same group of the loser bracket. I meant mixing that up. It's easy to do and just lazyness.
Anyway, let's forget that, there's never a tournament that can please everyone anyway. I'm just ever-so-fed-up with MLG for various reasons as a fellow tournament admin.
On March 24 2012 19:59 Nouar wrote: Additionnally, not mixing up players when you have EIGHT brackets, IE meaning in the LB you meet the guys who were in your WB section is dumb as well.
You know the sad part in this ? That's when you (and by you I mean blazh0r) realize that the MLG admins are so stupîd they got the LB wrong and during a significant amount of time, the LP is actually more updated than the official brackets.
On March 24 2012 18:53 AIOL! wrote: The guy who mades the seeds of the open bracket should be .... Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ?? Why would you draw a bracket where the two best players of your tournament meet so early ?
they are not the two best players of the tournament... they are two very good players but stephano has in no way proven to be better then the likes of MC/Marineking etc. Edit.. forgot DRG :D silly me
If you are talking about the 2 best players of the open bracket then I stand corrected.. That I could agree on although JYP is up there aswell imo, and dont forget Alive
On March 24 2012 19:59 Nouar wrote: Additionnally, not mixing up players when you have EIGHT brackets, IE meaning in the LB you meet the guys who were in your WB section is dumb as well.
You know the sad part in this ? That's when you (and by you I mean blazh0r) realize that the MLG admins are so stupîd they got the LB wrong and during a significant amount of time, the LP is actually more updated than the official brackets.
MLG and others really should make an automated bracket updating+creation function like I made for CES Indianapolis... where I could handle all the reporting shit myself as a result. Sure, a few times other admins called poked cause they were closer, but in terms of work involved I actually didn't have much of a workload at all.
Of course there are other things to consider related to MLG (and I'm not referring to size), so a certain level of redundancy may be wanted for the level of automation I made at CES, but really that shouldn't be a problem either.
This is ofc assuming it is still done manually as it was at Providence when I was there.
Idk what backend MLG runs on, but I would totally write an MLG tailored logic in php/mysql for free since I am a big fan and watch stuff you know.
I love iNcontroL as a personality, but he really has to do something to get good. No more promises just do it!
LOL do you even know who TSL_Symbol is? If iNcontroL had beaten Symbol, it would have been perhaps the biggest upset of the day (and probably the entire event).
lol i got home last night and flicked through some of the recorded stream without checking the live reports... I didn't realize that epic Polt v Stephano game was in the open bracket!!!!
Can't tell if people are joking in this thread or not because personally I have no idea who Symbol is. Looking at his Korean TLPD he hasn't beaten anyone noteworthy.
On March 24 2012 23:50 noddy wrote: Can't tell if people are joking in this thread or not because personally I have no idea who Symbol is. Looking at his Korean TLPD he hasn't beaten anyone noteworthy.
TLPD doesn't mean anything really, it shows your W/L for the separate matchups and who you've faced against, but it doesn't show how close the games were. For example, MMA's TvP is even better than PuMa's TvP if you blindly follow TLPD.
On March 24 2012 23:50 noddy wrote: Can't tell if people are joking in this thread or not because personally I have no idea who Symbol is. Looking at his Korean TLPD he hasn't beaten anyone noteworthy.
When a foreigner plays vs a Korean, that Korean automatically becomes a "top Korean player", despite the fact that he's nowhere near Code S.
On March 24 2012 23:50 noddy wrote: Can't tell if people are joking in this thread or not because personally I have no idea who Symbol is. Looking at his Korean TLPD he hasn't beaten anyone noteworthy.
On March 24 2012 23:50 noddy wrote: Can't tell if people are joking in this thread or not because personally I have no idea who Symbol is. Looking at his Korean TLPD he hasn't beaten anyone noteworthy.
Killer is my favorite SC2 player, but Symbol has beaten people that routinely make Killer look like a scrub (e.g. Polt). I think I started noticing him when he clinched a couple of epic Korean Weeklies.
Compared to other Koreans in the tournament at large, I'd agree he has a snowball's chance in hell of winning the whole thing, but I expect him to make it out of the open bracket.
I would love for SangHo to prove me wrong GOGO SANGHO!
KAWAIIRICE BEAT SHETH OMG YES I'M SO HAPPY. I wish I could have seen the games. I knew that he would win. I hope he does well in group play and gets some time on the main stage.
On March 25 2012 02:56 suspiciousbear wrote: KAWAIIRICE BEAT SHETH OMG YES I'M SO HAPPY. I wish I could have seen the games. I knew that he would win. I hope he does well in group play and gets some time on the main stage.
Kawaii's TvZ is sooooo good! Hope he finally gets some big attention this weekend.
On March 25 2012 02:56 suspiciousbear wrote: KAWAIIRICE BEAT SHETH OMG YES I'M SO HAPPY. I wish I could have seen the games. I knew that he would win. I hope he does well in group play and gets some time on the main stage.
Kawaii's TvZ is sooooo good! Hope he finally gets some big attention this weekend.
His TvZ is constantly underrated, I think he has the best TvZ outside of Korea. It's glorious to watch.
On March 25 2012 02:56 suspiciousbear wrote: KAWAIIRICE BEAT SHETH OMG YES I'M SO HAPPY. I wish I could have seen the games. I knew that he would win. I hope he does well in group play and gets some time on the main stage.
Kawaii's TvZ is sooooo good! Hope he finally gets some big attention this weekend.
His TvZ is constantly underrated, I think he has the best TvZ outside of Korea. It's glorious to watch.
I was going to call that a huge boost, but then I thought about it. I can't think of any particularly good TvZ outside of Korea apart from maybe Demuslim or I guess that greedy fucker Kas.
On March 25 2012 03:16 Kahlgar wrote: Kawairice getting out of the Stephano/Polt/Sheth bracket
wat
yeah.... *blinks*
Kind of like a good FFA strategy, Kawaii let them all 6 pool and 4gate eachother while he FFEd and quietly massed void ray + carrier in the corner. In the end, they never knew what hit them.
Meh, bad performance of Stephano this week-end, losing Polt because of big mistakes and losing to Inori, a protoss he destroyed a few weeks ago, for the first time ever o_O Even if an open bracket, especially a big one like the loser, isn't what he prefers, I thought he would be able to do better. Ah well, everyone has up and downs...
So much sadness in the LB round 8 . But this YaTa dude, who is he and what is he doing?! I haven't seen any of his games yet but this is one hell of a run!
EPT
Symbol 2-0 (181)
Flo] 2-1 (47)
BlinG 2-0 (175)
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