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On March 12 2012 07:47 ceaRshaf wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2012 07:46 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 12 2012 07:41 ceaRshaf wrote:On March 12 2012 07:39 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 12 2012 07:33 ceaRshaf wrote:On March 12 2012 07:33 dgwow wrote:On March 12 2012 07:28 ceaRshaf wrote:On March 12 2012 07:27 Badfatpanda wrote:On March 12 2012 07:24 ceaRshaf wrote:
I am so sad. I will not watch a game of Boxer until he proves himself again. This is just to random. That reasoning is so stupid, how will he prove himself in your eyes if you don't watch the games lol... Unfortunate that the Antiga game slipped out of BoxeR's hands twice, but it was really his game to lose both times, cloak would have made this a different game, probably favoring BoxeR T_T ggs I have to hear he had results prior to hoping for him to get results. It's not stupid. I want to become a fan after he his a great player not to cheer for him when he struggles. It's just a let down. A real fan cheers for their player through thick and thin. You're not a real fan. Nope, I am not anymore. The thin got really thin for me. Too thin. Wow, you were never a fan if thats your attitude. Boxer had gotten into Code S for the first season this year. He lost to MKP and Puma dude. MKP has been on fire this year and Puma is certainly no slouch. Did you see him at IEM beating MMA? I'm glad your not a fan of Boxer, you're not worth of it. It's not about the score but the games. He has lots to improve to be on the same level of the current terrans. And he always gets leads and then throws aways the game with a stupid move. So you are pretty much saying you only like the best players in the world currently. I certainly hope you aren't a fan of any foreigners. You are reading me wrong. Don't try.
No, you are trying to rationalize being a fan, which is impossible. Being a fan isn't rational at all. No foreign player is on the level of the current korean talent. Using your logic for why you are no longer a "fan" of Boxer, it means you shouldn't like any foreigners as well.
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On March 12 2012 07:49 Serinox wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2012 07:41 Rulker wrote:On March 12 2012 07:28 Serinox wrote:
And to make it even worse: now PuMa will advance. This is horrible... aside from the 1/1/1 anti-hype (which he did not do a single 1/1/1 in the NASL 1 2 Dreamhack or IEM Grand finals FINALS (as in the last games)) he is the most lovable guy, he is shy and fun, and he has the skills of a code s player with amazing TvP and TvT and Code A level TvZ He is also much better then Boxer, and has posts results in like 3/4 foreigner tournaments he attneds 1st NASL 1st NASL 2 1st IEM Cologne (only final he's done 1/1/1 in) 2nd Dreamhack 2nd IEM Finals 3rd IEM Guangzo 3rd Asus ROG (against lucky, and to Stephano and Polt) 5th IPL 3 5th MLG Raleigh 7th MLG Orlando 11th MLG Providence AMAZING results, more then most players would achieve in 4 years players he's beat MMA, MC(3-0) Hero, Zenio, JYP, SeleCT, Dimaga, Killer, ToD, MKP, Kas, Titan, Lucky (3-0), Thorzain, IdrA, DRG (2-0 at Dreamhack), Genius (2-0 at Dreamhack) Losira, Bomber, Polt, Happy, NaDa, aLive (qualified for NASL), Clide,sage, PUZZLE, Coca, Min, and TONS in GSTL 70% win rate foreigner TLPD, 60 % Korean TLPD Skilled, shy(which everyone seems to like in koreans) AMAZING player, great results, talented, best friends with HerO, MC, Sirius, JYP and more, only drama was when mr. Chae overreacted to his transfer vs 1/1/1 v P some people hate team EG I don't deny that PuMa is a good player. I don't hate EG. I just don't like PuMa. That's all. I won't insult him like a rapper would, but I will express a certain dislike towards him here (as I have done before on several occasions).
Out of curiosity, why do you not like him?
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Are they games done? Where can I find results?
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On March 12 2012 07:50 Sein wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2012 07:49 Serinox wrote:On March 12 2012 07:41 Rulker wrote:On March 12 2012 07:28 Serinox wrote:
And to make it even worse: now PuMa will advance. This is horrible... aside from the 1/1/1 anti-hype (which he did not do a single 1/1/1 in the NASL 1 2 Dreamhack or IEM Grand finals FINALS (as in the last games)) he is the most lovable guy, he is shy and fun, and he has the skills of a code s player with amazing TvP and TvT and Code A level TvZ He is also much better then Boxer, and has posts results in like 3/4 foreigner tournaments he attneds 1st NASL 1st NASL 2 1st IEM Cologne (only final he's done 1/1/1 in) 2nd Dreamhack 2nd IEM Finals 3rd IEM Guangzo 3rd Asus ROG (against lucky, and to Stephano and Polt) 5th IPL 3 5th MLG Raleigh 7th MLG Orlando 11th MLG Providence AMAZING results, more then most players would achieve in 4 years players he's beat MMA, MC(3-0) Hero, Zenio, JYP, SeleCT, Dimaga, Killer, ToD, MKP, Kas, Titan, Lucky (3-0), Thorzain, IdrA, DRG (2-0 at Dreamhack), Genius (2-0 at Dreamhack) Losira, Bomber, Polt, Happy, NaDa, aLive (qualified for NASL), Clide,sage, PUZZLE, Coca, Min, and TONS in GSTL 70% win rate foreigner TLPD, 60 % Korean TLPD Skilled, shy(which everyone seems to like in koreans) AMAZING player, great results, talented, best friends with HerO, MC, Sirius, JYP and more, only drama was when mr. Chae overreacted to his transfer vs 1/1/1 v P some people hate team EG I don't deny that PuMa is a good player. I don't hate EG. I just don't like PuMa. That's all. I won't insult him like a rapper would, but I will express a certain dislike towards him here (as I have done before on several occasions). Out of curiosity, why do you not like him?
Probably because of his playstyle (11111111111111111111111111111111).
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Man so many good games.
We got everything:
-Nukes
-Reaper speed
-Base trade
-Draw
-Bunker rush
-Intense micro battles.
-Macro games.
and this is just poolplay of group 1...
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On March 12 2012 07:53 Dekkers wrote:
Man so many good games.
We got everything:
-Nukes
-Reaper speed
-Base trade
-Draw
-Bunker rush
-Intense micro battles.
-Macro games.
and this is just poolplay of group 1...
Need some carriers from MC in group B to compete with this
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On March 12 2012 07:53 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2012 07:50 Sein wrote:On March 12 2012 07:49 Serinox wrote:On March 12 2012 07:41 Rulker wrote:On March 12 2012 07:28 Serinox wrote:
And to make it even worse: now PuMa will advance. This is horrible... aside from the 1/1/1 anti-hype (which he did not do a single 1/1/1 in the NASL 1 2 Dreamhack or IEM Grand finals FINALS (as in the last games)) he is the most lovable guy, he is shy and fun, and he has the skills of a code s player with amazing TvP and TvT and Code A level TvZ He is also much better then Boxer, and has posts results in like 3/4 foreigner tournaments he attneds 1st NASL 1st NASL 2 1st IEM Cologne (only final he's done 1/1/1 in) 2nd Dreamhack 2nd IEM Finals 3rd IEM Guangzo 3rd Asus ROG (against lucky, and to Stephano and Polt) 5th IPL 3 5th MLG Raleigh 7th MLG Orlando 11th MLG Providence AMAZING results, more then most players would achieve in 4 years players he's beat MMA, MC(3-0) Hero, Zenio, JYP, SeleCT, Dimaga, Killer, ToD, MKP, Kas, Titan, Lucky (3-0), Thorzain, IdrA, DRG (2-0 at Dreamhack), Genius (2-0 at Dreamhack) Losira, Bomber, Polt, Happy, NaDa, aLive (qualified for NASL), Clide,sage, PUZZLE, Coca, Min, and TONS in GSTL 70% win rate foreigner TLPD, 60 % Korean TLPD Skilled, shy(which everyone seems to like in koreans) AMAZING player, great results, talented, best friends with HerO, MC, Sirius, JYP and more, only drama was when mr. Chae overreacted to his transfer vs 1/1/1 v P some people hate team EG I don't deny that PuMa is a good player. I don't hate EG. I just don't like PuMa. That's all. I won't insult him like a rapper would, but I will express a certain dislike towards him here (as I have done before on several occasions). Out of curiosity, why do you not like him? Probably because of his playstyle (11111111111111111111111111111111).
Have you read Rulker's post quoted within this one?
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Ugh.
First MMA, now Boxer.
Goddamn Puma. Props for winning but I hate seeing him win over my favorites honestly  .
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On March 12 2012 07:44 Type|NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2012 07:42 ES.Genie wrote:On March 12 2012 07:40 Type|NarutO wrote:On March 12 2012 07:38 Perseverance wrote:On March 12 2012 07:36 ceaRshaf wrote:On March 12 2012 07:35 Xoronius wrote:On March 12 2012 07:33 ceaRshaf wrote:On March 12 2012 07:31 MVTaylor wrote:On March 12 2012 07:28 Serinox wrote:
And to make it even worse: now PuMa will advance. This is horrible... Can you seriously just warn/ban people like this. Pointless, pointless hatred against a player, nothing annoys me more. He doesn't like puma and he express it. Ban? Are you a communist? What exactly has this to do with communism? Freedom of speech. Last time I checked this forum was created by a single person, who makes rules as HE SEES FIT. If we don't like those rules we can gtfo. If we ignore his rules we get banned. So, to answer your question...yes, this is a communist forum. If you don't like it, don't let the door hit you on the way out. Its not even an offensive statement. If you don't like that this kind of freedom of speech is allowed here on Teamliquid don't let the door hit you on the way out. How is "And to make it even worse: now PuMa will advance. This is horrible..." not offensive? oO Maybe BoxeR is his rolemodel... maybe he just doesn't like PuMa's style or doesn't find it entertaining. Maybe its just that he wished for BoxeR to actually show how good he is in the next rounds. How is it offensive? "Its horrible because I don't like his style" could be right with that. He's neither threatening anyone, nor insulting PuMa;;
It's not that he doesn't like him, it's the way he expressed his dislike, which is clearly offensive towards Puma.
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On March 12 2012 07:44 ceaRshaf wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2012 07:44 Perseverance wrote:On March 12 2012 07:41 ceaRshaf wrote:On March 12 2012 07:39 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 12 2012 07:33 ceaRshaf wrote:On March 12 2012 07:33 dgwow wrote:On March 12 2012 07:28 ceaRshaf wrote:On March 12 2012 07:27 Badfatpanda wrote:On March 12 2012 07:24 ceaRshaf wrote:
I am so sad. I will not watch a game of Boxer until he proves himself again. This is just to random. That reasoning is so stupid, how will he prove himself in your eyes if you don't watch the games lol... Unfortunate that the Antiga game slipped out of BoxeR's hands twice, but it was really his game to lose both times, cloak would have made this a different game, probably favoring BoxeR T_T ggs I have to hear he had results prior to hoping for him to get results. It's not stupid. I want to become a fan after he his a great player not to cheer for him when he struggles. It's just a let down. A real fan cheers for their player through thick and thin. You're not a real fan. Nope, I am not anymore. The thin got really thin for me. Too thin. Wow, you were never a fan if thats your attitude. Boxer had gotten into Code S for the first season this year. He lost to MKP and Puma dude. MKP has been on fire this year and Puma is certainly no slouch. Did you see him at IEM beating MMA? I'm glad your not a fan of Boxer, you're not worth of it. It's not about the score but the games. He has lots to improve to be on the same level of the current terrans. And he always gets leads and then throws aways the game with a stupid move. I was introduced to eSports many years ago with replays of Boxers dropship+tank micro. The emperor will always have a place in my heart <3 Ofc I still love Boxer, will just not blindly root for him in the future.
If you don't root for Boxer, who will you root for? Yes, today was very frustrating for Boxer fans, but think about how he feels. The guy is more than 30 years old, and has been gaming professionally at a time when some of the younger players in the scene now were in diapers.
He doesn't have to compete in SC2. He's famous, pretty well off financially, his girlfriend is a famous actress, etc. He doesn't have to prove anything: Everyone knows that he is the Emperor, and no one has had as much of an impact on BW as he did. He keeps on fighting because he has so much invested into Esports, and the growth of SC2 in Korea. It is completely selfless, and while all his peers and contemporaries are retiring, Boxer goes back into the booth time and time again, coming back after every setback and disappointment. I root for Slayers Boxer unconditionally, because very few people inspire me like he does. It's not just about the games, it's about the context.
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On March 12 2012 07:55 ES.Genie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2012 07:44 Type|NarutO wrote:On March 12 2012 07:42 ES.Genie wrote:On March 12 2012 07:40 Type|NarutO wrote:On March 12 2012 07:38 Perseverance wrote:On March 12 2012 07:36 ceaRshaf wrote:On March 12 2012 07:35 Xoronius wrote:On March 12 2012 07:33 ceaRshaf wrote:On March 12 2012 07:31 MVTaylor wrote:On March 12 2012 07:28 Serinox wrote:
And to make it even worse: now PuMa will advance. This is horrible... Can you seriously just warn/ban people like this. Pointless, pointless hatred against a player, nothing annoys me more. He doesn't like puma and he express it. Ban? Are you a communist? What exactly has this to do with communism? Freedom of speech. Last time I checked this forum was created by a single person, who makes rules as HE SEES FIT. If we don't like those rules we can gtfo. If we ignore his rules we get banned. So, to answer your question...yes, this is a communist forum. If you don't like it, don't let the door hit you on the way out. Its not even an offensive statement. If you don't like that this kind of freedom of speech is allowed here on Teamliquid don't let the door hit you on the way out. How is "And to make it even worse: now PuMa will advance. This is horrible..." not offensive? oO Maybe BoxeR is his rolemodel... maybe he just doesn't like PuMa's style or doesn't find it entertaining. Maybe its just that he wished for BoxeR to actually show how good he is in the next rounds. How is it offensive? "Its horrible because I don't like his style" could be right with that. He's neither threatening anyone, nor insulting PuMa;; It's not that he doesn't like him, it's the way he expressed his dislike, which is clearly offensive towards Puma.
Doesn't seem offensive to me, sorry.
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On March 12 2012 07:50 Sein wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2012 07:49 Serinox wrote:On March 12 2012 07:41 Rulker wrote:On March 12 2012 07:28 Serinox wrote:
And to make it even worse: now PuMa will advance. This is horrible... aside from the 1/1/1 anti-hype (which he did not do a single 1/1/1 in the NASL 1 2 Dreamhack or IEM Grand finals FINALS (as in the last games)) he is the most lovable guy, he is shy and fun, and he has the skills of a code s player with amazing TvP and TvT and Code A level TvZ He is also much better then Boxer, and has posts results in like 3/4 foreigner tournaments he attneds 1st NASL 1st NASL 2 1st IEM Cologne (only final he's done 1/1/1 in) 2nd Dreamhack 2nd IEM Finals 3rd IEM Guangzo 3rd Asus ROG (against lucky, and to Stephano and Polt) 5th IPL 3 5th MLG Raleigh 7th MLG Orlando 11th MLG Providence AMAZING results, more then most players would achieve in 4 years players he's beat MMA, MC(3-0) Hero, Zenio, JYP, SeleCT, Dimaga, Killer, ToD, MKP, Kas, Titan, Lucky (3-0), Thorzain, IdrA, DRG (2-0 at Dreamhack), Genius (2-0 at Dreamhack) Losira, Bomber, Polt, Happy, NaDa, aLive (qualified for NASL), Clide,sage, PUZZLE, Coca, Min, and TONS in GSTL 70% win rate foreigner TLPD, 60 % Korean TLPD Skilled, shy(which everyone seems to like in koreans) AMAZING player, great results, talented, best friends with HerO, MC, Sirius, JYP and more, only drama was when mr. Chae overreacted to his transfer vs 1/1/1 v P some people hate team EG I don't deny that PuMa is a good player. I don't hate EG. I just don't like PuMa. That's all. I won't insult him like a rapper would, but I will express a certain dislike towards him here (as I have done before on several occasions). Out of curiosity, why do you not like him?
The main reason is just emotion. Sure I don't find his playstyle that entertaining and he beat players I really like in important matches (e.g. ThorZaIN, HerO, MMA, HasuObs). But really the main thing is emotional: I just don't feel anything when I see him play. When PuMa plays it's just not exciting for me, I don't feel the great joy I get from seeing other people do amazing things, I don't have the feeling to cheer for him and I don't feel satisfied or even happy when I see him win.
Did that answer your question properly?
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On March 12 2012 07:57 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2012 07:44 ceaRshaf wrote:On March 12 2012 07:44 Perseverance wrote:On March 12 2012 07:41 ceaRshaf wrote:On March 12 2012 07:39 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 12 2012 07:33 ceaRshaf wrote:On March 12 2012 07:33 dgwow wrote:On March 12 2012 07:28 ceaRshaf wrote:On March 12 2012 07:27 Badfatpanda wrote:On March 12 2012 07:24 ceaRshaf wrote:
I am so sad. I will not watch a game of Boxer until he proves himself again. This is just to random. That reasoning is so stupid, how will he prove himself in your eyes if you don't watch the games lol... Unfortunate that the Antiga game slipped out of BoxeR's hands twice, but it was really his game to lose both times, cloak would have made this a different game, probably favoring BoxeR T_T ggs I have to hear he had results prior to hoping for him to get results. It's not stupid. I want to become a fan after he his a great player not to cheer for him when he struggles. It's just a let down. A real fan cheers for their player through thick and thin. You're not a real fan. Nope, I am not anymore. The thin got really thin for me. Too thin. Wow, you were never a fan if thats your attitude. Boxer had gotten into Code S for the first season this year. He lost to MKP and Puma dude. MKP has been on fire this year and Puma is certainly no slouch. Did you see him at IEM beating MMA? I'm glad your not a fan of Boxer, you're not worth of it. It's not about the score but the games. He has lots to improve to be on the same level of the current terrans. And he always gets leads and then throws aways the game with a stupid move. I was introduced to eSports many years ago with replays of Boxers dropship+tank micro. The emperor will always have a place in my heart <3 Ofc I still love Boxer, will just not blindly root for him in the future. If you don't root for Boxer, who will you root for? Yes, today was very frustrating for Boxer fans, but think about how he feels. The guy is more than 30 years old, and has been gaming professionally at a time when some of the younger players in the scene now were in diapers. He doesn't have to compete in SC2. He's famous, pretty well off financially, his girlfriend is a famous actress, etc. He doesn't have to prove anything: Everyone knows that he is the Emperor, and no one has had as much of an impact on BW as he did. He keeps on fighting because he has so much invested into Esports, and the growth of SC2 in Korea. It is completely selfless, and while all his peers and contemporaries are retiring, Boxer goes back into the booth time and time again, coming back after every setback and disappointment. I root for Slayers Boxer unconditionally, because very few people inspire me like he does. It's not just about the games, it's about the context.
You act like he's an old man who actually cannot compete anymore. He is a very good player and if you watch his stream you'll see he beats GSL Code S material every day in convincing fashion. He had results in Starcraft 2 as well even though he didn't win anything major. BoxeR usually never lets down if he prepares.
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Man, I really wanted Ret to take a game off MKP. He would have advanced if he had
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Where are VoDs? not the rebrodcast, i cant watch it, i just want to watch PuMa vs Boxer and MKP vs Ret
I only saw Boxer vs MKP
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Boxer is an inspiration, even when he loses. I don't see how anyone can be knowledgeable of the scene and not root for Boxer.
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On March 12 2012 07:58 Serinox wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2012 07:50 Sein wrote:On March 12 2012 07:49 Serinox wrote:On March 12 2012 07:41 Rulker wrote:On March 12 2012 07:28 Serinox wrote:
And to make it even worse: now PuMa will advance. This is horrible... aside from the 1/1/1 anti-hype (which he did not do a single 1/1/1 in the NASL 1 2 Dreamhack or IEM Grand finals FINALS (as in the last games)) he is the most lovable guy, he is shy and fun, and he has the skills of a code s player with amazing TvP and TvT and Code A level TvZ He is also much better then Boxer, and has posts results in like 3/4 foreigner tournaments he attneds 1st NASL 1st NASL 2 1st IEM Cologne (only final he's done 1/1/1 in) 2nd Dreamhack 2nd IEM Finals 3rd IEM Guangzo 3rd Asus ROG (against lucky, and to Stephano and Polt) 5th IPL 3 5th MLG Raleigh 7th MLG Orlando 11th MLG Providence AMAZING results, more then most players would achieve in 4 years players he's beat MMA, MC(3-0) Hero, Zenio, JYP, SeleCT, Dimaga, Killer, ToD, MKP, Kas, Titan, Lucky (3-0), Thorzain, IdrA, DRG (2-0 at Dreamhack), Genius (2-0 at Dreamhack) Losira, Bomber, Polt, Happy, NaDa, aLive (qualified for NASL), Clide,sage, PUZZLE, Coca, Min, and TONS in GSTL 70% win rate foreigner TLPD, 60 % Korean TLPD Skilled, shy(which everyone seems to like in koreans) AMAZING player, great results, talented, best friends with HerO, MC, Sirius, JYP and more, only drama was when mr. Chae overreacted to his transfer vs 1/1/1 v P some people hate team EG I don't deny that PuMa is a good player. I don't hate EG. I just don't like PuMa. That's all. I won't insult him like a rapper would, but I will express a certain dislike towards him here (as I have done before on several occasions). Out of curiosity, why do you not like him? The main reason is just emotion. Sure I don't find his playstyle that entertaining and he beat players I really like in important matches (e.g. ThorZaIN, HerO, MMA, HasuObs). But really the main thing is emotional: I just don't feel anything when I see him play. When PuMa plays it's just not exciting for me, I don't feel the great joy I get from seeing other people do amazing things, I don't have the feeling to cheer for him and I don't feel satisfied or even happy when I see him win. Did that answer your question properly?
I think he has a very diverse set of playstyle, which makes him entertaining, but as far as emotional component goes, I'd say that is a fair enough reason. Thanks for the explanation.
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On March 12 2012 08:01 Rulker wrote:
Where are VoDs? not the rebrodcast, i cant watch it, i just want to watch PuMa vs Boxer and MKP vs Ret
I only saw Boxer vs MKP
All the VODs will be availble very soon
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