Apparently some people are dumb enough to STILL be asking for it, so let's make things clear:

Do NOT ask for re-streams, and do NOT post re-streams.

Do not come here and muddle the thread by bitching about PPV.

jmbthirteen

United States10734 Posts

February 26 2012 02:20 GMT

#3841

On February 26 2012 11:19 RaiKageRyu wrote:
DeMuslim's fairy tale run finally ends.

still not a bad run for a guy who wasn't supposed to be there. Top 12

tdt

United States3179 Posts

February 26 2012 02:20 GMT

#3842

On February 26 2012 11:06 Artok wrote:

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On February 26 2012 11:03 tdt wrote:

On February 26 2012 10:57 MattyClutch wrote:

On February 26 2012 10:53 Swede wrote:

On February 26 2012 10:51 MattyClutch wrote:

On February 26 2012 10:44 Swede wrote:

On February 26 2012 10:40 MattyClutch wrote:

On February 26 2012 10:38 Myles wrote:

On February 26 2012 10:36 MattyClutch wrote:

On February 26 2012 10:34 magnaflow wrote:
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Because they are giving you the exact same thing without having to pay for it. I have every right to be pissed off.

No some people found a way to exploit the system. MLG didn't 'give' them that. I highly doubt someone at MLG is going "YES THEY FOUND THE SECRET LOOPHOLE I LEFT FOR THEM!". Much more likely they are working to shut it down now. Do you also get mad at game developers because people pirate games that you payed for? Or movie producers because people BitTorrent movies?

There's no exploit, unless you consider opening the stream like any other an exploit. I'm not even using adblock.

... I think it is very obvious MLG didn't intend for everyone to be able to view it for free. It was obviously an oversight. With a quick search I can find most any software, music, or video product I want for free. It originally came from the developer, that doesn't mean that is how they wanted it to be offered.

How are you still defending them? It doesn't matter that it was an oversight. If you pay for a product then you have every right to expect that oversights of this degree won't happen. It would be considerably better if an exploit was required on the viewers side, but there isn't.

Tell me, how hard could MLG have worked to prevent people from freely accessing the stream if people with no Adblock, no exploit - nothing at all - can open a regular browser and view the stream at no charge?

If you want to be mad that you got exactly what you payed for, go crazy. I can still think you are silly. I have pointed out what an absurd argument this is, you can reread my other posts on the matter if you want. I am content to let angry people be angry as they just ignore all logic in the first place.

Don't expect to get your money back. "I got exactly what I payed for, now give me my money back" is not a logical argument.

But you didn't get exactly what you paid for. Like it or not, getting what you paid for is reliant on other people not getting what they didn't pay for.

Not only that, MLG made it very clear that this was to be a PPV only event. It's ridiculous that a person with no workaround at all and a completely regular browser can just open the stream and get it for free.

As I mentioned several times before - in the world of entertainment EVERYONE GETS THINGS YOU PAYED FOR WITHOUT PAYING. If you buy video games, people already pirated those. If you watch TV or movies or sporting events - people pirated those. If you buy software - tons of people get that for free via piracy. If you buy a car or a house, several people probably got much better deals that you did.

In none of those situations is it logical to demand your money back. A service was offered and you thought it was at a fair price and bought it. They delivered on their promise to you. I really cannot fathom how this isn't understandable

Do you guys just not buy anything digital (or can be made digital) at all?

Pretty much this. Where I come from no one has legit music/software at the same time you steal a car they used to chop your hand off. Just a different culture get over it.

there should be a way to punish that, since fyi producing games/software/music takes resources and talent as well, same as making real life products, too bad all immature shits cant get that.

Good point. Just saying really only western world takes this attitude. Stealing bits and bites/ideas is not so serious in rest of the world while they take stealing real property quite serious.

Zarahtra

Iceland4053 Posts

February 26 2012 02:21 GMT

#3843

On February 26 2012 11:18 pdd wrote:
Is Ghosts really not viable any longer in late game TvZ? I kinda feel EMPs and some snipes are still useful. Also nukes always have their utility.

For nukes I'd say they are, but for emps and snipes... I'd say not personally(except if you have them already for nukes).

Titorelli

2492 Posts

February 26 2012 02:21 GMT

#3844

On February 26 2012 11:19 Empire.Beastyqt wrote:
Can anyone tell me what happened in Parting vs MKP G1? builds and such?

yeah im interested in that too

Fyzar

Netherlands8010 Posts

February 26 2012 02:21 GMT

#3845

On February 26 2012 11:19 Empire.Beastyqt wrote:
Can anyone tell me what happened in Parting vs MKP G1? builds and such?

Parting went for some immortal push on two bases, MKP defended it, and when Parting saw medivacs, he went back with basically his entire army left intact. Then MKP landed a factory on Parting´s ramp and fucked up the AI, did a huge drop in the main and just won ;].

doffe

Sweden636 Posts

February 26 2012 02:21 GMT

#3846

On February 26 2012 11:19 Empire.Beastyqt wrote:
Can anyone tell me what happened in Parting vs MKP G1? builds and such?

there is a live coverage thread in the featured news.. check there

Timerly

Germany511 Posts

February 26 2012 02:21 GMT

#3847

Make 5 rax, wall with 3 depots when the only thing 90% of zergs do after such an 11/11 is a bust. Sigh, Ben. I get wanting to hide them but really, you even had the 2 proxies landing, could have walled a second time with just one more depot I think (although I'm not exactly sure on that map, might have required a 3rd rax -> tell). Ah, well played nonetheless, Devil Terran!

MrCon

France29748 Posts

February 26 2012 02:21 GMT

#3848

So tense...so tense !

Asha

United Kingdom38257 Posts

February 26 2012 02:21 GMT

#3849

On February 26 2012 11:19 Empire.Beastyqt wrote:
Can anyone tell me what happened in Parting vs MKP G1? builds and such?

Missed the start but looked like 2gate robo expo from Parting and 1rax FE from MKP.

Parting aggressive with immortals but MKP held it, and then good use of medivacs to use the low ground path next to Parting's main to elevator back and forth till he got a good enough position to commit. Killed Parting right before Colossus.

Tsubbi

Germany7997 Posts

February 26 2012 02:21 GMT

#3850

stephanos zvp is so much better than any of the korean zergs minus drg

Sroobz

United States1377 Posts

February 26 2012 02:21 GMT

#3851

Still think DRG or PartinG are going to win :D

corpuscle

United States1967 Posts

February 26 2012 02:22 GMT

#3852

On February 26 2012 11:21 Zarahtra wrote:

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For nukes I'd say they are, but for emps and snipes... I'd say not personally(except if you have them already for nukes).

Snipe/EMP are still good against infestors, which most Zergs rely on to keep their broodlords alive

vndods

United States3743 Posts

February 26 2012 02:22 GMT

#3853

On February 26 2012 11:19 Empire.Beastyqt wrote:
Can anyone tell me what happened in Parting vs MKP G1? builds and such?

MKP opens very standard 1 rax FE into 3 rax and double gas. very very standard while Parting does 1g with robo into nexus i believe. might have been 2g robo expand. Parting goes for the 3 immortal push with gateway units and sentrys attempting to bust the single bunker of MKP, MKP handles it perfect pulling back everything and baiting forcefields perfectly. once medivacs were out, Parting decides to pull back and defend drops with stalkers in his base and zealots, immortals, and sentrys in the front. MKP does some nice forcefield baiting and unit lifting to save units from forcefields and picks off enough stalkers to drop 3 medivacs worth of units into the main at a perfect timing to kill off the collosus and win the game from there.

Beastyqt

Serbia516 Posts

February 26 2012 02:22 GMT

#3854

Thanks for answers~ gogo Violet!