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Apparently some people are dumb enough to STILL be asking for it, so let's make things clear:

Do NOT ask for re-streams, and do NOT post re-streams.

Do not come here and muddle the thread by bitching about PPV.
Tayar
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1439 Posts
February 26 2012 02:03 GMT
#3661
holy batman those forcefields were fucking fantastic
Enki
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2548 Posts
February 26 2012 02:04 GMT
#3662
That was boner inducing from Naniwa.
"Practice, practice, practice. And when you're not practicing you should be practicing. It's the only way to get better. The only way." I run the Smix Fanclub!
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
February 26 2012 02:04 GMT
#3663
OK here we go, parting MKP inc on A1 finally =DDDDDDDD
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
February 26 2012 02:04 GMT
#3664
Finish off the Ewok, Naniwa!
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
0kz
Profile Joined January 2010
Italy1118 Posts
February 26 2012 02:04 GMT
#3665
nani playing so smart
Billd
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada210 Posts
February 26 2012 02:04 GMT
#3666
On February 26 2012 10:59 Swede wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 10:57 MattyClutch wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:53 Swede wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:51 MattyClutch wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:44 Swede wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:40 MattyClutch wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:38 Myles wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:36 MattyClutch wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:34 magnaflow wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:32 MattyClutch wrote:
[quote]

And people steal cars. You don't go to the car dealership and go "HEY someone stole a car, I want my money back! It is BS that someone got a car for free, I payed for mine! I mean mine didn't get stolen, it is here exactly what I payed for. But someone somewhere got a free car! RAGE!!!!"

I just don't see why you want to demand money back from MLG when they gave you exactly what you payed for.



Because they are giving you the exact same thing without having to pay for it. I have every right to be pissed off.



No some people found a way to exploit the system. MLG didn't 'give' them that. I highly doubt someone at MLG is going "YES THEY FOUND THE SECRET LOOPHOLE I LEFT FOR THEM!". Much more likely they are working to shut it down now. Do you also get mad at game developers because people pirate games that you payed for? Or movie producers because people BitTorrent movies?

There's no exploit, unless you consider opening the stream like any other an exploit. I'm not even using adblock.


... I think it is very obvious MLG didn't intend for everyone to be able to view it for free. It was obviously an oversight. With a quick search I can find most any software, music, or video product I want for free. It originally came from the developer, that doesn't mean that is how they wanted it to be offered.


How are you still defending them? It doesn't matter that it was an oversight. If you pay for a product then you have every right to expect that oversights of this degree won't happen. It would be considerably better if an exploit was required on the viewers side, but there isn't.

Tell me, how hard could MLG have worked to prevent people from freely accessing the stream if people with no Adblock, no exploit - nothing at all - can open a regular browser and view the stream at no charge?


If you want to be mad that you got exactly what you payed for, go crazy. I can still think you are silly. I have pointed out what an absurd argument this is, you can reread my other posts on the matter if you want. I am content to let angry people be angry as they just ignore all logic in the first place.

Don't expect to get your money back. "I got exactly what I payed for, now give me my money back" is not a logical argument.


But you didn't get exactly what you paid for. Like it or not, getting what you paid for is reliant on other people not getting what they didn't pay for.

Not only that, MLG made it very clear that this was to be a PPV only event. It's ridiculous that a person with no workaround at all and a completely regular browser can just open the stream and get it for free.


As I mentioned several times before - in the world of entertainment EVERYONE GETS THINGS YOU PAYED FOR WITHOUT PAYING. If you buy video games, people already pirated those. If you watch TV or movies or sporting events - people pirated those. If you buy software - tons of people get that for free via piracy. If you buy a car or a house, several people probably got much better deals that you did.

In none of those situations is it logical to demand your money back. A service was offered and you thought it was at a fair price and bought it. They delivered on their promise to you. I really cannot fathom how this isn't understandable Do you guys just not buy anything digital (or can be made digital) at all?


Sigh. I'll respond to you one last time. Pirating video games isn't the same. What it is the same as is Ubisoft selling Crysis in stores but also offering a free download of the game on their official website which they didn't tell you about. If you don't understand that difference then there's no point talking to you.


But that would have to involve Ubisoft offering it for free on purpose? Your logic is...well non existent. MLG doesn't want it to be out there for free and is probably working on stopping it right now. MLGLee was actively hunting down restreamers last night.
@BilldSC I tweet about all things Starcraft 2!
Cainam
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States421 Posts
February 26 2012 02:04 GMT
#3667
Naniwa is a motherfuckin boss.

And I generally hate Protoss
esaul17
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada547 Posts
February 26 2012 02:04 GMT
#3668
Does nani have DTs out? He should be scouting for all bases with them if so...
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
February 26 2012 02:04 GMT
#3669
Naniwa playing so well in these weird situations
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
MuseMike
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1339 Posts
February 26 2012 02:04 GMT
#3670
Its a good thing Naniwa didn't Elfi those FFs.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
February 26 2012 02:04 GMT
#3671
Nah, Leenock should have ninja'd somewhere else, not at the same crime scene. Predicting Nani to quickly find it and kill it again.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
MR KING
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden145 Posts
February 26 2012 02:04 GMT
#3672
builds dark shrine - doesnt use it. pro protoss fuck yeah
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
February 26 2012 02:05 GMT
#3673
Mother of god demu is transitioning into mech from bio, it's like Taeja's TvT only in TvZ...my mind is blown.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
February 26 2012 02:05 GMT
#3674
Naniwa's control is awesometastic.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
Lupita
Profile Joined September 2010
United States290 Posts
February 26 2012 02:05 GMT
#3675
snipe on the new third!
Do, or do not, there is no try...
bouhko
Profile Joined January 2012
193 Posts
February 26 2012 02:05 GMT
#3676
This is fucking textbook PvZ. Naniwa is fucking good
u sixpoll ?
frequency
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1901 Posts
February 26 2012 02:05 GMT
#3677
Does Naniwa have any upgrades? Leenock has +2 melee and +2 air?
www.twitter.com/marconofrio | marconofrio.tumblr.com
Jaegeru
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom676 Posts
February 26 2012 02:06 GMT
#3678
Naniwa has such good stalker micro.
MVP on winning his Fourth GSL - "Yeah I know the routine, take the flowers and cheque, I will kiss the trophy for the photo"
Nosferatos
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway783 Posts
February 26 2012 02:06 GMT
#3679
NANIWAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!
"Show me the Raven" ~ HMS turns into a mini-nuke, going twice as fast and doing 250 damage over a large area.
Flanq
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom2694 Posts
February 26 2012 02:06 GMT
#3680
Naniwaaaaaaaaaaaaa <3 Love it, countered Leenock so perfectly.
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