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NASL Sunday Showdown #5EGJYP vs mTwDIMAGA
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Date:Monday, Feb 20 3:15am GMT (GMT+00:00)Rebroadcast:Monday, Feb 20 7:15pm GMT (GMT+00:00)Watch It Live!
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Best of 7
Loser's Pick
Prize Pool
Winner: $400
Loser: $100
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Poll: Who will win Sunday Showdown #5?JYP (65) 50% DIMAGA (64) 50% 129 total votes Your vote: Who will win Sunday Showdown #5? (Vote): JYP
(Vote): DIMAGA
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What is NASL Sunday Showdown?Each Sunday, NASL will feature two of the world’s finest players compete in a Bo7 showmatch for a $500 prize pool! The victor of the series will be awarded $400 and glory, while the loser will take home $100 as a consolation. This Sunday Showdown, which will be utilizing GSL maps, will air after the NASL Team League each Sunday throughout the Team League. So tune in each Sunday at 6pm PST for an exciting team match, followed by the Sunday Showdown.
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I love you dimi bearrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Hope dimaga makes a good showin, and im sure he will ;D!
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Gotta heavily favor JYP. Can't imagine him losing to a guy who just got 5-0ed by Hero.
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
JYP! So manner and so goood  Can't wait! Also Dimaga and he are good friends and dimaga is obviously sick good too.. looks like it will be fun!
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On February 16 2012 03:09 iNcontroL wrote:JYP! So manner and so goood Can't wait! Also Dimaga and he are good friends and dimaga is obviously sick good too.. looks like it will be fun!
Hope JYP does better then the last EG player.
Anyway, should indeed be a lot of fun!
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i remember their series at HSC IV, it was really epic. When this showmatch only get the half of it, it will be nice to watch.
I´m Protoss, but...gogo Dimaga!
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On February 16 2012 03:01 Olinimm wrote:
Gotta heavily favor JYP. Can't imagine him losing to a guy who just got 5-0ed by Hero.
If you know Dimaga, you know you can't judge him by a single day.
He nearly beat HerO at IEM Kiev.
One day he can win vs everyone in the world, the next he loses vs medicore players.
(btw Dimaga is 3-3 vs JYP)
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I voted dimaga only because I'm more familiar with him >.>
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JYP is a PvZ master so he has to be the favorite Dimaga is no slouch though should be awesome.
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And longer then an hour ;D
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On February 16 2012 03:09 Amestir wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2012 03:09 iNcontroL wrote:JYP! So manner and so goood Can't wait! Also Dimaga and he are good friends and dimaga is obviously sick good too.. looks like it will be fun! Hope JYP does better then the last EG player. Anyway, should indeed be a lot of fun!
There's no way he could do worse. It's actually impossible
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On February 16 2012 03:49 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2012 03:09 Amestir wrote:On February 16 2012 03:09 iNcontroL wrote:JYP! So manner and so goood Can't wait! Also Dimaga and he are good friends and dimaga is obviously sick good too.. looks like it will be fun! Hope JYP does better then the last EG player. Anyway, should indeed be a lot of fun! There's no way he could do worse. It's actually impossible
He could probe rush or kill his own buildings every game.
Can't wait for this. Dimaga vs JYP game 1 on Dual Sight at HSC4 was one of the coolest games I've seen.
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I think DIMAGA will win since he's an overall better player. Who knows though he might have a bad day that day. JYP use to be very good, but his skill level has gone down for some reason. He seems almost code B ish maybe less. Decent player nonetheless.
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I'd love to see Dimaga in a different matchup, the IPL thing was vs a Protoss (Hero) as well and I don't like Dimaga's ZvP at all, it's his worst matchup and you can see why, it's not particularly fun to watch either.
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Dimaga so good.
Ohh, wait its vP. GG 4-0 just like last week with Idra :D
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it will not be easy, but Dimaga will take it :D
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On February 16 2012 06:27 Lennient wrote:
it will not be easy, but Dimaga will take it :D
I'm in agreement with you there. This could be a very back & forth matchup, but I am leaning towards Dimaga taking it.
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On February 16 2012 06:10 Dexington wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2012 03:49 Bagration wrote:On February 16 2012 03:09 Amestir wrote:On February 16 2012 03:09 iNcontroL wrote:JYP! So manner and so goood Can't wait! Also Dimaga and he are good friends and dimaga is obviously sick good too.. looks like it will be fun! Hope JYP does better then the last EG player. Anyway, should indeed be a lot of fun! There's no way he could do worse. It's actually impossible He could probe rush or kill his own buildings every game. Can't wait for this. Dimaga vs JYP game 1 on Dual Sight at HSC4 was one of the coolest games I've seen.
Killing your own buildings is actually a winning strategy vs IdrA
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this probably wont be as one sided as vs hero
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what, no idra again? Wtf mang >_>
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I think this is going to take about 15 hours or so? Anyway...
Dimaga Turtel 4TW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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On February 18 2012 09:24 VirgilSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2012 06:10 Dexington wrote:On February 16 2012 03:49 Bagration wrote:On February 16 2012 03:09 Amestir wrote:On February 16 2012 03:09 iNcontroL wrote:JYP! So manner and so goood Can't wait! Also Dimaga and he are good friends and dimaga is obviously sick good too.. looks like it will be fun! Hope JYP does better then the last EG player. Anyway, should indeed be a lot of fun! There's no way he could do worse. It's actually impossible He could probe rush or kill his own buildings every game. Can't wait for this. Dimaga vs JYP game 1 on Dual Sight at HSC4 was one of the coolest games I've seen. Killing your own buildings is actually a winning strategy vs IdrA
Yes if i recall correctly MMA pioneered the siege push to kill own orbital into premature GG
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Dimaga should be able to sweep it 4-0 based on pure skill alone. Maybe JYP can get some kind of lucky cheese on DIMAGA and possibly take a few games. I don't know why NASL would choose two players who are so uneven in skill.
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United States97276 Posts
Dimaga is good but I think JYP wins this one. It'll be close
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nice showmatch!
dimaga will have a hard time imo!
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On February 20 2012 11:10 Brootalbro wrote:
Dimaga should be able to sweep it 4-0 based on pure skill alone. Maybe JYP can get some kind of lucky cheese on DIMAGA and possibly take a few games. I don't know why NASL would choose two players who are so uneven in skill.
I'm sorry, but what? lol
I think it's a pretty even match.
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United States97276 Posts
this cast needs more nightend now!!
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Canada13386 Posts
On February 20 2012 12:13 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2012 11:10 Brootalbro wrote:
Dimaga should be able to sweep it 4-0 based on pure skill alone. Maybe JYP can get some kind of lucky cheese on DIMAGA and possibly take a few games. I don't know why NASL would choose two players who are so uneven in skill. I'm sorry, but what? lol I think it's a pretty even match.
If the homestory cup is anything to gauge this matchup its pretty close for sure.
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Props to NASL for bringing in good players to cast time and time again, that's something they're doing pretty well!
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JYP going to stomp, :[ The matchups are not good, JYP is a PvZ beast.
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Fuck YES! :D NightEnD casting!
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Nightend's casting will make it legendary. Sorry Gretorp, just stay quiet for the remainder of the matches and let Nightend's awesome voice do it's job.
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United States97276 Posts
anyone else having stream trouble? mine keeps freezing and i have to refresh
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
Lag for me 
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NightEnD casting and DIMAGA playing. Me gusta. :D
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Canada13386 Posts
Interesting push for JYP but hes floating over 1 kminerals with 77 supply O.O Not super well refined I think unfortunately looks like a very cool build but possibly new? I rarely see JYPs games and opening strats like this
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is it just me, or is the brightness at maximum?
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On February 20 2012 12:26 Shellshock1122 wrote:
anyone else having stream trouble? mine keeps freezing and i have to refresh
None on this end. Going smoothly at 1080p+ for me.
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Wow, Dimaga takes a huge lead. I thought he was finished after the DTs harass
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On February 20 2012 12:36 Bagration wrote:
Wow, Dimaga takes a huge lead. I thought he was finished after the DTs harass
How? How the hell did he come back after loosing all those drones? dafuq did I just see?
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United States97276 Posts
that was so many infestors
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Oh wow, that was really sweet
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great job bringing in good players as casters,and nightends voice just makes this epic.makes me sad there no homestory cup soon;(
dimaga 4-2
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United States97276 Posts
On February 20 2012 12:37 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2012 12:36 Bagration wrote:
Wow, Dimaga takes a huge lead. I thought he was finished after the DTs harass How? How the hell did he come back after loosing all those drones? dafuq did I just see?
really favorable engagement at jyp's ramp
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I was worried that Dimaga was bad at ZvP after his games against Hero, but now I think Hero is just a PvZ genius.
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On February 20 2012 12:37 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2012 12:36 Bagration wrote:
Wow, Dimaga takes a huge lead. I thought he was finished after the DTs harass How? How the hell did he come back after loosing all those drones? dafuq did I just see?
According to Nightend, he got too greedy by taking a 4th and not getting AOE (collosus)
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United States97276 Posts
On February 20 2012 12:38 weiliem wrote:
Whose the 2nd caster? oO
FnaticRC.Nightend
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On February 20 2012 12:38 weiliem wrote:
Whose the 2nd caster? oO
Nightend, a Romanian pro on Fnatic.
Edit: Just a bit too slow. Off to practice my APM then
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Canada13386 Posts
On February 20 2012 12:37 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2012 12:36 Bagration wrote:
Wow, Dimaga takes a huge lead. I thought he was finished after the DTs harass How? How the hell did he come back after loosing all those drones? dafuq did I just see?
Really bad engagement from JYP. Getting fungalled over and over and not having the AoE to deal with zerglings or infested terrans.
Ive even started to think that getting a couple collossi against ling muta is really good just because 2 collossi roast zerglings really fast and its super helpful to kill the little things really fast coupled with a few storms.
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On February 20 2012 12:37 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2012 12:36 Bagration wrote:
Wow, Dimaga takes a huge lead. I thought he was finished after the DTs harass How? How the hell did he come back after loosing all those drones? dafuq did I just see?
Even though he lost a lot of drones after all the harass it was 70 at 57 in dimaga's favor...if JYP would have done even a 6-7 gate push you'd have less drones or you'd die...dimaga was in an awesome position.
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Did the casters ever show workers lost? Dimaga was still way ahead on workers after 6-7 DT's 12 zealots and a couple of stalkers tried to kill em off.
From my point of view it looked like dima handled it very well, moving workers away instantly on several fronts.
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United States97276 Posts
hahaha nightend i think we know you hate this map vs zerg. we all hate watching it
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10 gate...something sneaky from JYP
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On February 20 2012 12:38 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2012 12:37 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On February 20 2012 12:36 Bagration wrote:
Wow, Dimaga takes a huge lead. I thought he was finished after the DTs harass How? How the hell did he come back after loosing all those drones? dafuq did I just see? According to Nightend, he got too greedy by taking a 4th and not getting AOE (collosus)
Hmm I actually am okay with getting immortals there instead of collosi. After that much damage you know he is going to counter push soon. You've only really seen roaches so expecting a heavy roach push. Facing a roach counter push I'd rather have 4 immortals as opposed to like 1-2 collosi you might have out (still didn't have support bay+longer build time etc.)
The 4th was extremely greedy though...
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On February 20 2012 12:41 Darkthorn wrote:
10 gate...something sneaky from JYP
Ive seen this its super awesome 3 zealots attack and it does a lot of damage :D
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oO, im confused of JYP's build....
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OMG that's nightend...
wow... lol
interesting
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Canada13386 Posts
On February 20 2012 12:42 ZeromuS wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2012 12:41 Darkthorn wrote:
10 gate...something sneaky from JYP Ive seen this its super awesome 3 zealots attack and it does a lot of damage :D
So I hope everyone agrees that was pretty cool to watch. If he had put 3 zealots hold position on the ramp though he could have sent one zealot into the mineral line to kill some drones.
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On February 20 2012 12:45 ZeromuS wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2012 12:42 ZeromuS wrote:On February 20 2012 12:41 Darkthorn wrote:
10 gate...something sneaky from JYP Ive seen this its super awesome 3 zealots attack and it does a lot of damage :D So I hope everyone agrees that was pretty cool to watch. If he had put 3 zealots hold position on the ramp though he could have sent one zealot into the mineral line to kill some drones.
nah the drones would kill the zealout
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JYP prefers immortal over colossus it seems.... which dimaga's infestor build works well against... lol
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flawless game indeed.. nice play.
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1-1, tied up!
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United States97276 Posts
nice job jyp. all tied up
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Just tuned in and saw the four collosi of JYP slaughtering everything of Dimaga...
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I think Nightend is a great analyst (as he's a pro-gamer and very good at spotting important decisions that both players have been making) but he's not really doing it for me as far as casting is going. Doesn't really have that attitude or passion.
It's definitely beneficial to have him there though. It's just tough when the pace of the commentating slows down to a crawl when he talks.
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On February 20 2012 12:59 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
I think Nightend is a great analyst (as he's a pro-gamer and very good at spotting important decisions that both players have been making) but he's not really doing it for me as far as casting is going. Doesn't really have that attitude or passion.
It's definitely beneficial to have him there though. It's just tough when the pace of the commentating slows down to a crawl when he talks.
I guess it is a different type of persona that Nightend has. I do not think it would make sense for him to get super excited like an HD or Husky, but stay as the straight man as the analyst. Furthermore, I think the language barrier is playing a role as well in Nightend being so passive and laid back. Still, I am really enjoying Nightend's casting.
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This caster's voice is too unhuman like
just like alien in SF movies
really not good tone
I turned off comment because of him
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On February 20 2012 13:04 Lyw9475 wrote:
This caster's voice is too unhuman like
just like alien in SF movies
really not good tone
I turned off comment because of him
it's nightend <3 <3
too bad for you because he has some deep insights from time to time
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United States97276 Posts
jyp has really good blink micro O_o
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I don't even care, NightEnd's is just so amusing and that adds to the showmatch.
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On February 20 2012 13:03 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2012 12:59 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
I think Nightend is a great analyst (as he's a pro-gamer and very good at spotting important decisions that both players have been making) but he's not really doing it for me as far as casting is going. Doesn't really have that attitude or passion.
It's definitely beneficial to have him there though. It's just tough when the pace of the commentating slows down to a crawl when he talks. I guess it is a different type of persona that Nightend has. I do not think it would make sense for him to get super excited like an HD or Husky, but stay as the straight man as the analyst. Furthermore, I think the language barrier is playing a role as well in Nightend being so passive and laid back. Still, I am really enjoying Nightend's casting.
Yeah I definitely agree. He's being ridiculed so much in the livechat for how he talks. It's rather ignorant lol.
Also: JYP just had fucking insane blink micro. The forcefields were obviously good too ^^ Just went from being down 40 supply to breaking even, in a stalker + 4 sentry fight vs. mass roach and a few lings.
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United States97276 Posts
not a lot of good zerg maps left for dimaga. crossfire and dual sight gone
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2-1 JYP! Infestors weren't enough, and Dimaga kept engaging poorly (e.g. in concaves x.x).
And dat blink micro... wow.
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Okay Nightend has a weird voice but I really enjoy his casting: so informative and analytical. Thanks for bringing him in!
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On February 20 2012 13:03 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2012 12:59 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
I think Nightend is a great analyst (as he's a pro-gamer and very good at spotting important decisions that both players have been making) but he's not really doing it for me as far as casting is going. Doesn't really have that attitude or passion.
It's definitely beneficial to have him there though. It's just tough when the pace of the commentating slows down to a crawl when he talks. I guess it is a different type of persona that Nightend has. I do not think it would make sense for him to get super excited like an HD or Husky, but stay as the straight man as the analyst. Furthermore, I think the language barrier is playing a role as well in Nightend being so passive and laid back. Still, I am really enjoying Nightend's casting.
just like his play. :D
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United States97276 Posts
theres only 1 gas in the middle on this version
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Middle bases only have 1 gas each... weird.
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United States97276 Posts
how much did those cannons actually do?
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On February 20 2012 13:18 Shellshock1122 wrote:
how much did those cannons actually do?
Just killed a queen. I don't even know if it killed any drones or lings. Very one-sided in terms of Dimaga, considering the third went up and the stargate tech was really late.
Gretorp: With this void ray and phoenix, Dimaga's in so much trouble!
Nightend: Actually... I think he will hold this no problem because of the spore crawlers.
::Dimaga holds easily::
Gretorp: Hmm.
lol made me laugh out loud.
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3-1 JYP with that hard push! Dimaga overdroned and didn't have enough units to defend. Too greedy
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On February 20 2012 13:22 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2012 13:18 Shellshock1122 wrote:
how much did those cannons actually do? Just killed a queen. I don't even know if it killed any drones or lings. Very one-sided in terms of Dimaga, considering the third went up and the stargate tech was really late. Gretorp: With this void ray and phoenix, Dimaga's in so much trouble! Nightend: Actually... I think he will hold this no problem because of the spore crawlers. ::Dimaga holds easily:: Gretorp: Hmm. lol made me laugh out loud.
He was in trouble thou from the Stargate play. Killed the queen at the 3rd then floated around to the main and pick off more queens and forced more spores
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Maybe dimaga could have countered into JYP's 3rd.. save his infestors for fungals but JYP probably retreats after killing the 3rd especially if theres units killing his 3rd.
Was so happy dimaga won game 1 but this one might be over soon..
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Dimaga kinda sucks at ZvP :\ he used ot be amazing at it
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Final score: JYP wins 4-1.
Dimaga overdrones x.x JYP super solid play, especially with blink! Congratulations to JYP
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When I watch Dimaga play he usually loves the macro hatches. Going for that fast 3rd over and over again was disappointing
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On February 20 2012 11:10 Brootalbro wrote:
Dimaga should be able to sweep it 4-0 based on pure skill alone. Maybe JYP can get some kind of lucky cheese on DIMAGA and possibly take a few games. I don't know why NASL would choose two players who are so uneven in skill.
hahaha >.> good call. I guess the last sentence still applies
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Cant really say that Dimaga sucks at ZvP, JYP is a far better player. However he was doing the same thing all games, which got countered pretty hard.
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After watching Day9 study ret's ZvP on the daily, this was especially frustrating, even though the games I saw played out differently.
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Wow.. that was actually a really disappointing series from Dimaga... I used to specifically watch his ZvP's to learn from him but these games have been so one sided. Drone to 75+ drones, no scout, no burrow...
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Can't bet against a GSL-level Korean. Nice play by JYP.
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On February 20 2012 11:10 Brootalbro wrote:
Dimaga should be able to sweep it 4-0 based on pure skill alone. Maybe JYP can get some kind of lucky cheese on DIMAGA and possibly take a few games. I don't know why NASL would choose two players who are so uneven in skill.
I almost thought you were being sarcastic.. were you?
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Russian Federation676 Posts
they've met 2 times in tournaments already with no lag, whats the point of a showmatch which has lag for JYP and just repeats old results? pff..
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On February 20 2012 13:48 human_ko wrote:
they've met 2 times in tournaments already with no lag, whats the point of a showmatch which has lag for JYP and just repeats old results? pff..
Koreans need lag because it equalizes the matchup. xD
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Oh man I didn't know it was NightEnD's birthday. Happy B-day! He looks older than his age though.
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I can't believe JYP won, more shockingly, DIMAGA lost. Oh well. Good job JYP. I guess. Every player has a bad day I suppose. This was as shockingly, if not more, as when Gumiho upset Mvp. It's one of those times when a lesser skilled player figures something out (kinda like San way back when) and beats a player that out classes him. All good though, it's part of the game
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On February 20 2012 16:14 Brootalbro wrote:
I can't believe JYP won, more shockingly, DIMAGA lost. Oh well. Good job JYP. I guess. Every player has a bad day I suppose. This was as shockingly, if not more, as when Gumiho upset Mvp. It's one of those times when a lesser skilled player figures something out (kinda like San way back when) and beats a player that out classes him. All good though, it's part of the game
JYP vs. Dimaga all time is a score of 7-4. Hes won 2 series over dimaga (bo5 and a bo7) while dimaga has won 1 (best of 3).
What is it about JYP that convinces you that hes a lesser skilled player? San abusing the amulet was only against terran - not a solid example or comparison at all.
Dimaga is pretty darn good but you make it sound as if hes miles ahead of JYP. I was personally expecting a close series and to learn from dimaga's ZvP and it looks like the majority of TL was also expecting a close match (example: the poll in the OP.)
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On February 20 2012 17:28 Angelbelow wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2012 16:14 Brootalbro wrote:
I can't believe JYP won, more shockingly, DIMAGA lost. Oh well. Good job JYP. I guess. Every player has a bad day I suppose. This was as shockingly, if not more, as when Gumiho upset Mvp. It's one of those times when a lesser skilled player figures something out (kinda like San way back when) and beats a player that out classes him. All good though, it's part of the game JYP vs. Dimaga all time is a score of 7-4. Hes won 2 series over dimaga (bo5 and a bo7) while dimaga has won 1 (best of 3). What is it about JYP that convinces you that hes a lesser skilled player? San abusing the amulet was only against terran - not a solid example or comparison at all. Dimaga is pretty darn good but you make it sound as if hes miles ahead of JYP. I was personally expecting a close series and to learn from dimaga's ZvP and it looks like the majority of TL was also expecting a close match (example: the poll in the OP.)
Personally, I didn't expect this to be a close match at all. Let's face it, Dimaga's ZvP is easily his worst matchup (he just got 5-0'ed by Hero in the IPL Fight Club just a couple weeks ago), and JYP is a super solid Protoss with very strong PvZ. Of course I like Dimaga, but I think he seriously needs to improve his ZvP now, or he could hardly go far in any tournaments in the future, especially those with Korean Protosses.
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On February 20 2012 16:14 Brootalbro wrote:
I can't believe JYP won, more shockingly, DIMAGA lost. Oh well. Good job JYP. I guess. Every player has a bad day I suppose. This was as shockingly, if not more, as when Gumiho upset Mvp. It's one of those times when a lesser skilled player figures something out (kinda like San way back when) and beats a player that out classes him. All good though, it's part of the game
JYP is the overall better player without a doubt.
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On February 21 2012 00:51 quannguyen wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2012 17:28 Angelbelow wrote:On February 20 2012 16:14 Brootalbro wrote:
I can't believe JYP won, more shockingly, DIMAGA lost. Oh well. Good job JYP. I guess. Every player has a bad day I suppose. This was as shockingly, if not more, as when Gumiho upset Mvp. It's one of those times when a lesser skilled player figures something out (kinda like San way back when) and beats a player that out classes him. All good though, it's part of the game JYP vs. Dimaga all time is a score of 7-4. Hes won 2 series over dimaga (bo5 and a bo7) while dimaga has won 1 (best of 3). What is it about JYP that convinces you that hes a lesser skilled player? San abusing the amulet was only against terran - not a solid example or comparison at all. Dimaga is pretty darn good but you make it sound as if hes miles ahead of JYP. I was personally expecting a shitclose series and to learn from dimaga's ZvP and it looks like the majority of TL was also expecting a close match (example: the poll in the OP.) Personally, I didn't expect this to be a close match at all. Let's face it, Dimaga's ZvP is easily his worst matchup (he just got 5-0'ed by Hero in the IPL Fight Club just a couple weeks ago), and JYP is a super solid Protoss with very strong PvZ. Of course I like Dimaga, but I think he seriously needs to improve his ZvP now, or he could hardly go far in any tournaments in the future, especially those with Korean Protosses.
Even if DIMIGA's worse matchup is vP, he is still miles ahead of JYP in terms of skill. It's like how Mvp's worse matchup is TvP and he still made HuK look like a fool in a series. And HuK is a PvT beast. In all honesty, not statistics, DIMAGA should have won 4-0. Off day I guess.
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On February 21 2012 03:01 Brootalbro wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2012 00:51 quannguyen wrote:On February 20 2012 17:28 Angelbelow wrote:On February 20 2012 16:14 Brootalbro wrote:
I can't believe JYP won, more shockingly, DIMAGA lost. Oh well. Good job JYP. I guess. Every player has a bad day I suppose. This was as shockingly, if not more, as when Gumiho upset Mvp. It's one of those times when a lesser skilled player figures something out (kinda like San way back when) and beats a player that out classes him. All good though, it's part of the game JYP vs. Dimaga all time is a score of 7-4. Hes won 2 series over dimaga (bo5 and a bo7) while dimaga has won 1 (best of 3). What is it about JYP that convinces you that hes a lesser skilled player? San abusing the amulet was only against terran - not a solid example or comparison at all. Dimaga is pretty darn good but you make it sound as if hes miles ahead of JYP. I was personally expecting a shitclose series and to learn from dimaga's ZvP and it looks like the majority of TL was also expecting a close match (example: the poll in the OP.) Personally, I didn't expect this to be a close match at all. Let's face it, Dimaga's ZvP is easily his worst matchup (he just got 5-0'ed by Hero in the IPL Fight Club just a couple weeks ago), and JYP is a super solid Protoss with very strong PvZ. Of course I like Dimaga, but I think he seriously needs to improve his ZvP now, or he could hardly go far in any tournaments in the future, especially those with Korean Protosses. Even if DIMIGA's worse matchup is vP, he is still miles ahead of JYP in terms of skill. It's like how Mvp's worse matchup is TvP and he still made HuK look like a fool in a series. And HuK is a PvT beast. In all honesty, not statistics, DIMAGA should have won 4-0. Off day I guess.
I'm quite curious just what leads you to think that "DIMAGA is still miles ahead of JYP in terms of skill".
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On February 21 2012 03:01 Brootalbro wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2012 00:51 quannguyen wrote:On February 20 2012 17:28 Angelbelow wrote:On February 20 2012 16:14 Brootalbro wrote:
I can't believe JYP won, more shockingly, DIMAGA lost. Oh well. Good job JYP. I guess. Every player has a bad day I suppose. This was as shockingly, if not more, as when Gumiho upset Mvp. It's one of those times when a lesser skilled player figures something out (kinda like San way back when) and beats a player that out classes him. All good though, it's part of the game JYP vs. Dimaga all time is a score of 7-4. Hes won 2 series over dimaga (bo5 and a bo7) while dimaga has won 1 (best of 3). What is it about JYP that convinces you that hes a lesser skilled player? San abusing the amulet was only against terran - not a solid example or comparison at all. Dimaga is pretty darn good but you make it sound as if hes miles ahead of JYP. I was personally expecting a shitclose series and to learn from dimaga's ZvP and it looks like the majority of TL was also expecting a close match (example: the poll in the OP.) Personally, I didn't expect this to be a close match at all. Let's face it, Dimaga's ZvP is easily his worst matchup (he just got 5-0'ed by Hero in the IPL Fight Club just a couple weeks ago), and JYP is a super solid Protoss with very strong PvZ. Of course I like Dimaga, but I think he seriously needs to improve his ZvP now, or he could hardly go far in any tournaments in the future, especially those with Korean Protosses. Even if DIMIGA's worse matchup is vP, he is still miles ahead of JYP in terms of skill. It's like how Mvp's worse matchup is TvP and he still made HuK look like a fool in a series. And HuK is a PvT beast. In all honesty, not statistics, DIMAGA should have won 4-0. Off day I guess.
You say all these things and don't give any information as to why Dimaga is the better player and should have won 4-0. What about his play that counters JYP's play? Seriously? There's no should have won, especially with a ridiculous 4-0 claim, there are just results and what happened. You could say he should have won that particular game or he should have won this particular game since he was so ahead, but you can't say that for the entire series + Show Spoiler +
All I see here is dumb fanboyism.
Dimaga is a great player, but the way you make him out is quite insulting to JYP who's good enough to have taken games off of DRG even.
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oh man i love nightend's voice :')
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On February 21 2012 03:01 Brootalbro wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2012 00:51 quannguyen wrote:On February 20 2012 17:28 Angelbelow wrote:On February 20 2012 16:14 Brootalbro wrote:
I can't believe JYP won, more shockingly, DIMAGA lost. Oh well. Good job JYP. I guess. Every player has a bad day I suppose. This was as shockingly, if not more, as when Gumiho upset Mvp. It's one of those times when a lesser skilled player figures something out (kinda like San way back when) and beats a player that out classes him. All good though, it's part of the game JYP vs. Dimaga all time is a score of 7-4. Hes won 2 series over dimaga (bo5 and a bo7) while dimaga has won 1 (best of 3). What is it about JYP that convinces you that hes a lesser skilled player? San abusing the amulet was only against terran - not a solid example or comparison at all. Dimaga is pretty darn good but you make it sound as if hes miles ahead of JYP. I was personally expecting a shitclose series and to learn from dimaga's ZvP and it looks like the majority of TL was also expecting a close match (example: the poll in the OP.) Personally, I didn't expect this to be a close match at all. Let's face it, Dimaga's ZvP is easily his worst matchup (he just got 5-0'ed by Hero in the IPL Fight Club just a couple weeks ago), and JYP is a super solid Protoss with very strong PvZ. Of course I like Dimaga, but I think he seriously needs to improve his ZvP now, or he could hardly go far in any tournaments in the future, especially those with Korean Protosses. Even if DIMIGA's worse matchup is vP, he is still miles ahead of JYP in terms of skill. It's like how Mvp's worse matchup is TvP and he still made HuK look like a fool in a series. And HuK is a PvT beast. In all honesty, not statistics, DIMAGA should have won 4-0. Off day I guess.
what in the actual fuck?
no.
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On February 21 2012 03:01 Brootalbro wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2012 00:51 quannguyen wrote:On February 20 2012 17:28 Angelbelow wrote:On February 20 2012 16:14 Brootalbro wrote:
I can't believe JYP won, more shockingly, DIMAGA lost. Oh well. Good job JYP. I guess. Every player has a bad day I suppose. This was as shockingly, if not more, as when Gumiho upset Mvp. It's one of those times when a lesser skilled player figures something out (kinda like San way back when) and beats a player that out classes him. All good though, it's part of the game JYP vs. Dimaga all time is a score of 7-4. Hes won 2 series over dimaga (bo5 and a bo7) while dimaga has won 1 (best of 3). What is it about JYP that convinces you that hes a lesser skilled player? San abusing the amulet was only against terran - not a solid example or comparison at all. Dimaga is pretty darn good but you make it sound as if hes miles ahead of JYP. I was personally expecting a shitclose series and to learn from dimaga's ZvP and it looks like the majority of TL was also expecting a close match (example: the poll in the OP.) Personally, I didn't expect this to be a close match at all. Let's face it, Dimaga's ZvP is easily his worst matchup (he just got 5-0'ed by Hero in the IPL Fight Club just a couple weeks ago), and JYP is a super solid Protoss with very strong PvZ. Of course I like Dimaga, but I think he seriously needs to improve his ZvP now, or he could hardly go far in any tournaments in the future, especially those with Korean Protosses. Even if DIMIGA's worse matchup is vP, he is still miles ahead of JYP in terms of skill. It's like how Mvp's worse matchup is TvP and he still made HuK look like a fool in a series. And HuK is a PvT beast. In all honesty, not statistics, DIMAGA should have won 4-0. Off day I guess.
I smell a fanboy...  JYP is a very good Korean player in two matchups, one of them vZ. A very good Korean is better than even the best Foreigners more often then not lately. Trying to claim Dimaga is way better than any of the good Koreans is crazy.
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On February 21 2012 05:40 mrtomjones wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2012 03:01 Brootalbro wrote:On February 21 2012 00:51 quannguyen wrote:On February 20 2012 17:28 Angelbelow wrote:On February 20 2012 16:14 Brootalbro wrote:
I can't believe JYP won, more shockingly, DIMAGA lost. Oh well. Good job JYP. I guess. Every player has a bad day I suppose. This was as shockingly, if not more, as when Gumiho upset Mvp. It's one of those times when a lesser skilled player figures something out (kinda like San way back when) and beats a player that out classes him. All good though, it's part of the game JYP vs. Dimaga all time is a score of 7-4. Hes won 2 series over dimaga (bo5 and a bo7) while dimaga has won 1 (best of 3). What is it about JYP that convinces you that hes a lesser skilled player? San abusing the amulet was only against terran - not a solid example or comparison at all. Dimaga is pretty darn good but you make it sound as if hes miles ahead of JYP. I was personally expecting a shitclose series and to learn from dimaga's ZvP and it looks like the majority of TL was also expecting a close match (example: the poll in the OP.) Personally, I didn't expect this to be a close match at all. Let's face it, Dimaga's ZvP is easily his worst matchup (he just got 5-0'ed by Hero in the IPL Fight Club just a couple weeks ago), and JYP is a super solid Protoss with very strong PvZ. Of course I like Dimaga, but I think he seriously needs to improve his ZvP now, or he could hardly go far in any tournaments in the future, especially those with Korean Protosses. Even if DIMIGA's worse matchup is vP, he is still miles ahead of JYP in terms of skill. It's like how Mvp's worse matchup is TvP and he still made HuK look like a fool in a series. And HuK is a PvT beast. In all honesty, not statistics, DIMAGA should have won 4-0. Off day I guess. I smell a fanboy... JYP is a very good Korean player in two matchups, one of them vZ. A very good Korean is better than even the best Foreigners more often then not lately. Trying to claim Dimaga is way better than any of the good Koreans is crazy.
Yup this lmao. Ah fanboyism xD. I mean every foreigner struggles vs really good korean players ^^.
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On February 21 2012 03:01 Brootalbro wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2012 00:51 quannguyen wrote:On February 20 2012 17:28 Angelbelow wrote:On February 20 2012 16:14 Brootalbro wrote:
I can't believe JYP won, more shockingly, DIMAGA lost. Oh well. Good job JYP. I guess. Every player has a bad day I suppose. This was as shockingly, if not more, as when Gumiho upset Mvp. It's one of those times when a lesser skilled player figures something out (kinda like San way back when) and beats a player that out classes him. All good though, it's part of the game JYP vs. Dimaga all time is a score of 7-4. Hes won 2 series over dimaga (bo5 and a bo7) while dimaga has won 1 (best of 3). What is it about JYP that convinces you that hes a lesser skilled player? San abusing the amulet was only against terran - not a solid example or comparison at all. Dimaga is pretty darn good but you make it sound as if hes miles ahead of JYP. I was personally expecting a shitclose series and to learn from dimaga's ZvP and it looks like the majority of TL was also expecting a close match (example: the poll in the OP.) Personally, I didn't expect this to be a close match at all. Let's face it, Dimaga's ZvP is easily his worst matchup (he just got 5-0'ed by Hero in the IPL Fight Club just a couple weeks ago), and JYP is a super solid Protoss with very strong PvZ. Of course I like Dimaga, but I think he seriously needs to improve his ZvP now, or he could hardly go far in any tournaments in the future, especially those with Korean Protosses. Even if DIMIGA's worse matchup is vP, he is still miles ahead of JYP in terms of skill. It's like how Mvp's worse matchup is TvP and he still made HuK look like a fool in a series. And HuK is a PvT beast. In all honesty, not statistics, DIMAGA should have won 4-0. Off day I guess.
You're being so biased it's ridiculous. JYP's PvZ winrate is 63.4% in KOREA while Dimaga's ZvP is 56% in foreigner tourny. JYP is MILES ahead at least in PvZ, and I'm quite sure he's better in the other two matchups as well. In terms of skill JYP is mid-high Code A player which means he's better than almost all foreigners.
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On February 21 2012 03:01 Brootalbro wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2012 00:51 quannguyen wrote:On February 20 2012 17:28 Angelbelow wrote:On February 20 2012 16:14 Brootalbro wrote:
I can't believe JYP won, more shockingly, DIMAGA lost. Oh well. Good job JYP. I guess. Every player has a bad day I suppose. This was as shockingly, if not more, as when Gumiho upset Mvp. It's one of those times when a lesser skilled player figures something out (kinda like San way back when) and beats a player that out classes him. All good though, it's part of the game JYP vs. Dimaga all time is a score of 7-4. Hes won 2 series over dimaga (bo5 and a bo7) while dimaga has won 1 (best of 3). What is it about JYP that convinces you that hes a lesser skilled player? San abusing the amulet was only against terran - not a solid example or comparison at all. Dimaga is pretty darn good but you make it sound as if hes miles ahead of JYP. I was personally expecting a shitclose series and to learn from dimaga's ZvP and it looks like the majority of TL was also expecting a close match (example: the poll in the OP.) Personally, I didn't expect this to be a close match at all. Let's face it, Dimaga's ZvP is easily his worst matchup (he just got 5-0'ed by Hero in the IPL Fight Club just a couple weeks ago), and JYP is a super solid Protoss with very strong PvZ. Of course I like Dimaga, but I think he seriously needs to improve his ZvP now, or he could hardly go far in any tournaments in the future, especially those with Korean Protosses. Even if DIMIGA's worse matchup is vP, he is still miles ahead of JYP in terms of skill. It's like how Mvp's worse matchup is TvP and he still made HuK look like a fool in a series. And HuK is a PvT beast. In all honesty, not statistics, DIMAGA should have won 4-0. Off day I guess.
are you serious or just a very good troll?
i mean, come on, the last time they met on a lan, jyp also won 3:1.
and his JYPs pvz is by far his most solid matchup.
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Be mindful of the spoilers guys.
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Meh, I'd ignore Brootalbro.
+ Show Spoiler + I was first suspicious when he made his blatantly loaded "Yay, the more skilled players won" remark in the FXO vs. Mouz thread, conveniently ignoring the fact that Mouz's win is yet another example of foreigners pulling off an upset in cross-server play (while Korean vs Foreigners in LAN play remains an almost completely Korean-dominated affair, which, I'd like to add, heavily implies that cross-server lag is in the foreigner's favor). Not that Mouz is bad or anything - they're easily the strongest foreigner team alongside Empire IMO, but, again, how many times have we seen foreigners beat Koreans in cross-server tournaments, saw the fanfare, the claims of foreigners having "superior skill", only to see Koreans again dominate foreigners in non-cross server, lag-less environments?
Anyway, his ridiculous assessment that Dimaga is "miles ahead of JYP in terms of skill" confirms my suspicion: He's just a blind foreigner fanboy through and through.
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On February 21 2012 06:08 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Be mindful of the spoilers guys.
Even after the last game of the re-broadcast?
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On February 21 2012 06:30 AlternativeEgo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2012 06:08 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Be mindful of the spoilers guys. Even after the last game of the re-broadcast?
Keep in mind some might have missed the rebroadcast even then that will tend tick off a few TL'ers, better safe than sorry :p
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On February 21 2012 09:11 cyclone25 wrote:Where can I find the vods for this match? http://www.twitch.tv/nasltv/videos I checked here, but it shows a clan war when I click the VODs named "Jyp vs Dimaga".
That's because the showmatch is the second half the sunday broadcast. it's after the clan match.
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