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Vash_SC2
United States122 Posts
On February 10 2012 12:37 KalWarkov wrote: tbh, minigun even made the result look O.K. for coLMVP in the end, as i did concider both violet and beastyqt as favorites against him. clearly you don't watch minigun play | ||
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GDbushido
United States926 Posts
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On February 10 2012 12:55 GDbushido wrote: minigun has been one of the most underrated players in the world for awhile now, mostly because he has been non-existent at big NA events...but the kid has mad skills. Agree, surpised that he does not get more exposure, considering that he is on a major foreign team with plenty of funds (at so it seems). | ||
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wklbishop
United States1286 Posts
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
On February 10 2012 12:53 The_Stampede wrote: clearly you don't watch minigun play so you wont concider violet and beastyqt as favorites against minigun usually? you sir, are a fanboy. €: i know that minigun is pretty good, i watched his stream back then a lot. but especially violet is a different level of player. sry man, thats just how it is oO against beasty, well, beasty isnt too consistent and quite average against protoss, so that one could go either way often times. | ||
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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
Grats to Empire though, I'd honestly say they're the second best foreigner team atm, and rapidly gaining too. | ||
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Icekommander
Canada483 Posts
On February 10 2012 13:17 KalWarkov wrote: so you wont concider violet and beastyqt as favorites against minigun usually? you sir, are a fanboy. €: i know that minigun is pretty good, i watched his stream back then a lot. but especially violet is a different level of player. sry man, thats just how it is oO against beasty, well, beasty isnt too consistent and quite average against protoss, so that one could go either way often times. Really Minigun is something of a darkhorse ATM as we really haven't seen him play all that much recently(Stream not withstanding). I'd mostly agree with your summary, Violet is the clear favourite vs Minigun, but I would say Minigun is a slight favourite vs Beasty. Edit: At post above: Funnily enough it worked out pretty well for them, all their wins were from the Col players. | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On February 10 2012 13:23 1Eris1 wrote: Well that was dumb by colMVP playing 3/5 col players when they were facing elimination. Grats to Empire though, I'd honestly say they're the second best foreigner team atm, and rapidly gaining too. Out of curiousity, who would you consider to be the top foreign team? As for playing col players, they played Minigun when the score was 0-1 and things were not looking too dangerous for them. Minigun got them the lead, so they decided to send in qxc to take down Aristeo. At that point, they were still in a pretty good position, being up 3-2 against Empire. Their only major mistake was to underestimate Kas, though. | ||
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mcgriffin
Canada81 Posts
On February 10 2012 13:23 1Eris1 wrote: Well that was dumb by colMVP playing 3/5 col players when they were facing elimination. Grats to Empire though, I'd honestly say they're the second best foreigner team atm, and rapidly gaining too. well considering it's 2/5 col with 3 wins and 3/5 MVP with 0 wins... | ||
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MayorITC
Korea (South)798 Posts
On February 10 2012 14:07 mcgriffin wrote: well considering it's 2/5 col with 3 wins and 3/5 MVP with 0 wins... I'll re-word his point: That was dumb by colMVP to send out an untested player (Bang) and a player with a 9% win rate in TvT (Dream). Tails is a good player, but sending him out when things are finally down to the wire is pointless risk taking. Even ignoring the MVP players who had Code S matches, they still could have sent out Keen, Noblesse and/or Monster. | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On February 10 2012 15:08 MayorITC wrote: I'll re-word his point: That was dumb by colMVP to send out an untested player (Bang) and a player with a 9% win rate in TvT (Dream). Tails is a good player, but sending him out when things are finally down to the wire is pointless risk taking. Even ignoring the MVP players who had Code S matches, they still could have sent out Keen, Noblesse and/or Monster. Now I will not pretend that I am an expert on the inside workings of the Teamhouses, but I would assume since guys like Dream and Tails are not in the GSL, they would be practicing for occasions like this. I think that it was a mistake for MVP to underestimate Empire and send out a relatively weaker lineup, but then again you definitely do not want to overwork your top players, as you risk burnout and revealing strategies. This is pretty common in many team sports. | ||
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Titorelli
2492 Posts
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
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Jotoco
Brazil1342 Posts
1 - Kas 2 - Thorzain (A series of good European protoss players would fit this seed too) GOM should stop trying to balance race numbers by inviting only zergs and give foreigners an actual chance. | ||
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Frankon
3054 Posts
On February 10 2012 20:29 Jotoco wrote: I would want that the 2 foreigner seeds for next GSL code S would consist of: 1 - Kas 2 - Thorzain (A series of good European protoss players would fit this seed too) GOM should stop trying to balance race numbers by inviting only zergs and give foreigners an actual chance. Part of me wants it... But then Kas would finally be on EG poach list. | ||
JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On February 10 2012 21:21 Frankon wrote: Part of me wants it... But then Kas would finally be on EG poach list. The code S seeds should go to PuMa and HerO, the 2 non-Code S players with the best tournament results, imo. And, on paper, the Code S seeds belong to the 2 players who earned it the most by good results in tournament. Anyways, congratulations to Empire, very happy to get the opportunity to see them again next round! | ||
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Arcanne
United States1519 Posts
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Hydroxyl
206 Posts
On February 10 2012 21:21 Frankon wrote: Part of me wants it... But then Kas would finally be on EG poach list. It's common knowledge that only EG has money out there. | ||
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TearsOfTheSun
Canada995 Posts
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Jotoco
Brazil1342 Posts
On February 10 2012 22:05 Hydroxyl wrote: It's common knowledge that only EG has money out there. Yeah. The only team who has ever paid salaries in SC2. All the other players play for fun and honor. And about the guy saying Puma/Hero have better results. It really depends. Kas, Dimaga, Sase, Naniwa, Thorzain, arguably put results as good or better than they do. It just that many times it is not the same tournaments. | ||
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