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Date: Friday, Feb 03 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
EU Rebroadcast: Friday, Feb 03 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
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-- 4 BO1 1v1s
-- If tied after all 4 games there is a BO3 Ace Match
- Players are picked before the match is started and picked based on the given map
- 7 Week Season
- Top 4 are seeded into Playoffs
Empire (2-0) vs Mouz (1-1)
Match 1
Match 2
Match 3
Match 4
Ace Match (If Applicable)
Poll: Who Will Win?Empire (64) 50% Mouz (64) 50% 128 total votes Your vote: Who Will Win? (Vote): Empire
(Vote): Mouz
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Mouz never loses a ClanWar. It's a law of nature.
Mouz for the win with biGs spanking Beastyqt for the show.
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opterown
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So this is starting now? Possibly the two strongest teams outside of Korea duking it out. And this is the first time all the matchups actually look good instead of a bunch of mirrors.
Violet > Hasu
Aristeo < Thorzain
Kas < Mana
Beasty > Bigs
Kas < Thorzain
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Empire got really nice matchups. Voted for them.
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Shouldn't this be on right now?
Event calendar says tomorrow, but the time in the OP says it should be now.
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What's going on? Shouldn't this be on now?
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Wasnt this supposed to start 47min ago?
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According to NASL's website schedule and twitter, this match will be tomorrow. Dunno why it says 2/1 on the thread still :<
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Despite both teams being really good, the only match that looks interesting to me is Kas vs. MaNa...
I hope Mouz wins ^^
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Oh wow. This is all coming down to Kas vs MaNa in my opinion.
Violet should beat HasuObs pretty easily, Hasu has been slumping hard. ThorZaIN should be way too much for Aristeo. Beasty is probably gonna beat biGs, but no guarantee there.
This should be a sick set though.
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All of these matches look great. I'm hoping Mouz can take it.
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United States3294 Posts
Yeah this is going to be siiiick
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 viOLet >  HasuObs
+ Show Spoiler +viOLet has super gosu ZvP and is one of the best players in the foreign community. Hasu is good, but I'm not sure that anybody on Mouz has what it takes to take on viOLet confidently.
Aristeo <  ThorZaIN
+ Show Spoiler +I don't know much about Aristeo, but Empire has been consistently playing him which makes me think they're confident in him. However, I think that ThorZaIN is better in the match-up (stats wise and the fact that I'm a ThorZaIN fanboy ^^), so I think that he has a really good shot at winning it. Aristeo has pretty awful ZvT results, and ThorZaIN generally is a safe player (except that Bo3 against Ret....), so I think he'll have it in the bag despite Bel'Shir being a good map. 2 Rax might be a good idea just because it's Bel'Shir, but I also think that he has a really good shot at the late game so he should aim to win there.
Kas < MaNa
+ Show Spoiler +I think the other two games will be somewhat predictable, but these last two are airing on the side of uncertainty. Frankly, MaNa has the best PvT of non-Koreans/NaNiwa. Kas is great, but MaNa plays PvT like no other. For whatever reason, he just consistently seems safe throughout the game, always ready for any sort of extremely aggressive move, and as he transitions into High Templar, he continuously wins with better control/macro. That being said, Kas is super gosu and it's a Bo1 in the shittiest match-up, so Kas definitely has a good shot at winning, but edge goes to MaNa.
Beastyqt < biGs
+ Show Spoiler +Beastyqt is really good and like all Empire Terrans, I think that because their practice is heavily revolved around the ladder, they have a good mentality going into Bo1 series. That being said, Tal'Darim Altar is a great map for Zerg (barring positions where the Zerg spawns counter-clockwise of the Terran) and biGs has proven to be a fantastic ZvTer. His other match-ups certainly need work, but his game against Ryung in IPL TAC showed that he has the potential to be a great ZvT player. Also, he has pretty solid stats in the match-up, despite having played a decent number less games than Beasty, who has fantastic stats. biGs has this unless Beasty gets the right spawns, in which case it goes to an ace.
Mouz 3-1 Empire
Probably being a bit optimistic (Mouz fan right here!! ^^), but these match-ups are looking pretty good for Mouz. If it goes to an ace I wonder if we'll see ThorZaIN or MaNa from Mouz and Kas or viOLet from Empire. Should be a great series, regardless, as I like both of these teams.
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Match for current best team of europe imo although violets pick up kinda ruined it, still no welmu playing is sad T.T as I think hes probably better than aristeo.
Excited for kas v mana though always an awesome game, think it will prob going to ace with thorzain v kas, which is a big chance for kas to avenge his loss in TSL!
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so....when is this? it says feb 1 at 9pm eastern.....but nothings on 
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On February 02 2012 13:12 decerto wrote:
Match for current best team of europe imo although violets pick up kinda ruined it, still no welmu playing is sad T.T as I think hes probably better than aristeo.
Excited for kas v mana though always an awesome game, think it will prob going to ace with thorzain v kas, which is a big chance for kas to avenge his loss in TSL!
Welmu has some problems with his computer.
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My bet is 3-2 empire, i'd be surprised if viOlet didn't take his game and Kas should take his though that's a little more up in the air. If it goes to an acematch, i think both violet and kas can beat anyone on the team. Will be very close though and of course Mouz should by no means be underestimated.
I like both these teams so much I dont know who to personally go for XD
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37011 Posts
OP is dated wrong guys. This starts tomorrow at 9:00 :/
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United States13143 Posts
I think this is either going 3-1 Empire or 3-2 somebody, depending on Kas vs Mana.
Nice banner, by the way.
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On February 02 2012 13:36 Seeker wrote:
OP is dated wrong guys. This starts tomorrow at 9:00 :/
Correct sir. Sorry about that, should be fixed. 
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Kas vs Mana will be the essential match.
If Mouz takes it there will be a ace match if they don't It will be 3-1 empire.
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hm 3-2 or 2-3 but it will be decided by an ace match imo
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On February 02 2012 12:25 Dexington wrote:
Oh wow. This is all coming down to Kas vs MaNa in my opinion.
Violet should beat HasuObs pretty easily, Hasu has been slumping hard.
It depends, when the games were played. In the last matches I saw from him (Playhem EU on Monday and yesterday), he looked like he got back into shape, especially against Zerg. He took Nerchio apart pretty convincingly for example, but Bel´Shir is a good map for Zerg, so Violet is probably the favorite.
Should be a close series overall. Hoping for Mouz.
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On February 02 2012 17:39 Frankon wrote:
Kas vs Mana will be the essential match.
If Mouz takes it there will be a ace match if they don't It will be 3-1 empire.
I feel the same way.
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Hope for mouz but this looks like a clear 3-1 for empire with only Thorzain winning for mouz.
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expecting empire to win 3-1
also, bel shir beach twice? :D
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At least MaNa don't have to PvZ again
Should be close, cant wait.
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3-1 for Empire with only MaNa winning :o
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Gonna come down to the ace.
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(Z)Violet < Bel'Shir Beach Winter > (P)HasuObs
Violet is a beast in ZvP and althought Hasus best match up is PvZ as well, he is kind of slumping recently. The map should favour Violet as well, so this should pretty much the most predictable match of the series, although on a good day Hasu can obviously take out almost any Zerg player.
(Z)Aristeo < Bel'Shir Beach > (T)ThorZaIN
Thorzain is just a incredible strong Terran player and although Aristeo seems to have improved a lot recently ZvT seems to be his worst match up, so Thorzain might not be reachable yet. Map should favour Aristeo though, so i think it could be very close.
(T)Kas < GSL Daybreak > (P)MaNa
What an incredible match ! It stands out of a series full of high quality players.With MaNa arguably having the best PvT in europe and Kas arguably having the best TvP in europe, it's just impossible to predict. I give Mana the edge just because i think that Dayabreak is better for the Protoss and might fight very well to MaNa.
(T)Beastyqt < Tal'Darim Altar > (Z)biGs
Beasty is a very unpredictable player as he is able to pull of extreme strong chesses as well as playing a long macro game, which is why i give him the edge here, but biGs could very well beat him if it comes down to a macro game.
An ace match is really unpredictable so i won't put time into that but i coud very well imagine Violet versus MaNa with Violet winning.
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Should be a great night of games
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Btw. Its EMPIRE night. They cast both team league games at the same time...
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On February 02 2012 20:03 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Gonna come down to the ace.
Yeah, I think there is a good chance.
If Kas wins, it will be hard for Mouz, either Hasu or Bigs has to pull it off. But they can.
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Russian Federation118 Posts
my adequate prediction ..
mm..
I think 8-0 for Empire
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That's gonna be pretty close...
Violet > Hasu
Aristeo < Thorzain
Kas < Mana
Beastyqt > biGs
That's my guess, and I don't know who is supposed to play ace match ;d
Rooting for mouz though!
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Yeah, I think I'm gonna jump on the 3-1 train. Kas vs. MaNa will determine everything *dramatic voice*
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Picking violet, thorzain, and beastyqt. Kas mana could go either way
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It's going to be close, almost certainly going to an ace match. Violet and Kas should win their games, and if Beasty wins his match Empire has this, but Thorzain is heavily favored against Aristeo, and if Mana and Hasu can pull out wins it's going to ace match. Hopefully it will be Thorzain vs Kas to see who is the best foreign terran.
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Empire 1 - 3 Mouz imho
HasuObs, ThorZain and Mana will win their games
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I can see Empire winning with these matchups as well, 3-1 imo.
btw Bel Shir twice? And different versions even. ;o
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gogo mouz!
I think these are the 2 strongest foreign teams!
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Damn why Aristeo, Happy has such great TvT...
This is gonna be very close, top4 foreigner teams
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I don't understand why Empire never puts their strongest line up. T_T. With Aristeo instead of Happy they might even lose this.
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On February 03 2012 07:19 Jakka wrote:
I don't understand why Empire never puts their strongest line up. T_T. With Aristeo instead of Happy they might even lose this.
Same with mouz. No Hasu against Liquid, no Morrow against Empire.
I think this matchups are really bad for mouz.
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Russian Federation118 Posts
when clan war was played Happy and hob8ot were in a trip, in Rome.
playing some 'closed show-matchesd' for empire's sponsors
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I guess MaNa vs Kas will be the most interesting game imo.
hope too see some really intense games! gl both teams!
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These team battles are reallly cutting into my playing time.
Both teams are stellar and both teams strive to have an excellent "team". I am going to say Empire takes it.
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Two of my favorite teams playing :/. Well at least one them wins the game. Awesome games incoming anyway.
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This is funny you can watch empire in both teamleagues at the same time.
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On February 03 2012 11:32 red4ce wrote:
This is funny Empire you can watch empire in both teamleagues at the same time.
lol yeah i'm doing that now!
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Grubby is just such an enjoyable commentator. First time, in a long time, having NASL as my unmuted stream.
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thorzain faked pushing out to his nat
but actually just dropped the z nat and took out the hatch LOL
2base T vs 1base Z.
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"He may be ahead now" - yeah, maybe.
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mis micro picking up those marines from the drop
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GG! thorzain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Russian Federation949 Posts
WTF is Kas doing, that was so bad. he should be playing better than this
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United States13143 Posts
It's kind of frustrating to see the terran win the battle like that and be completely unable to attack.
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United States13143 Posts
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On February 03 2012 12:04 Elyvilon wrote:
It's kind of frustrating to see the terran win the battle like that and be completely unable to attack.
he won 3-4 battles in a row now, it just doesn't matter =) as soon as mana hits 2 storms it's gg though
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United States13143 Posts
On February 03 2012 12:10 alepoff wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 12:04 Elyvilon wrote:
It's kind of frustrating to see the terran win the battle like that and be completely unable to attack. he won 3-4 battles in a row now, it just doesn't matter =) as soon as mana hits 2 storms it's gg though
Yeah
It's okay, if Kas can win like 3 more without losing any, mana is going to starve out
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On February 03 2012 12:12 Elyvilon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 12:10 alepoff wrote:On February 03 2012 12:04 Elyvilon wrote:
It's kind of frustrating to see the terran win the battle like that and be completely unable to attack. he won 3-4 battles in a row now, it just doesn't matter =) as soon as mana hits 2 storms it's gg though Yeah It's okay, if Kas can win like 3 more without losing any, mana is going to starve out
Fifth Terran win (in a row) is the charm... TT
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this map is just so half and half T_T it kind of sucks
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On February 03 2012 12:13 mvtaylor wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 12:12 Elyvilon wrote:On February 03 2012 12:10 alepoff wrote:On February 03 2012 12:04 Elyvilon wrote:
It's kind of frustrating to see the terran win the battle like that and be completely unable to attack. he won 3-4 battles in a row now, it just doesn't matter =) as soon as mana hits 2 storms it's gg though Yeah It's okay, if Kas can win like 3 more without losing any, mana is going to starve out Fifth Terran win (in a row) is the charm... TT
You act like the fact terran can walk over protoss 5 battles in a row is a bad thing
edit* 6 now
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Ok, the Mana vs. Kas game definitely lived up to expectations. Best PvT I've seen so far in 2012.
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On February 03 2012 12:16 decerto wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 12:13 mvtaylor wrote:On February 03 2012 12:12 Elyvilon wrote:On February 03 2012 12:10 alepoff wrote:On February 03 2012 12:04 Elyvilon wrote:
It's kind of frustrating to see the terran win the battle like that and be completely unable to attack. he won 3-4 battles in a row now, it just doesn't matter =) as soon as mana hits 2 storms it's gg though Yeah It's okay, if Kas can win like 3 more without losing any, mana is going to starve out Fifth Terran win (in a row) is the charm... TT You act like the fact terran can walk over protoss 5 battles in a row is a bad thing
Well, once terran controls perfectly like Kas did, protoss really cannot win in a straight-up engagement.
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wow what the fuck Kas you are good
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Sick game, glad I watched it! Very well played by Kas!
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Did I miss Kas v. Thorzain??
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lol at all these cries about how terran needs to win multiple late game battles vs protoss before they can attack a protoss base because of how quick protoss reinforces. they completely forget the fact that terran can survive on just 30 SCVs late, late game because of mules, pushing up their army supply which is the reason why they can win those multiple battles in the first place.
each race has its pros and cons. live with it.
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On February 03 2012 12:19 Ostracized wrote:
Did I miss Kas v. Thorzain??
No, you missed Kas vs MaNa. Epic Game, definitely recommend that you watch it.
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Looks bad for mouz now, beastyqt has a beasty tvz... I still hope for an ace match.
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On February 03 2012 12:19 ~Maverick~ wrote:No, you missed Kas vs MaNa. Epic Game, definitely recommend that you watch it.
Caught the end. I was hoping to see the two best foreigner Terrans have at it (Kas and Thorzain).
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On February 03 2012 12:21 Ostracized wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 12:19 ~Maverick~ wrote:On February 03 2012 12:19 Ostracized wrote:
Did I miss Kas v. Thorzain?? No, you missed Kas vs MaNa. Epic Game, definitely recommend that you watch it. Caught the end. I was hoping to see the two best foreigner Terrans have at it (Kas and Thorzain).
Well, it may still go to an ace match, and Kas vs Thorzain isnt out of the question.
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United States13143 Posts
On February 03 2012 12:21 Ostracized wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 12:19 ~Maverick~ wrote:On February 03 2012 12:19 Ostracized wrote:
Did I miss Kas v. Thorzain?? No, you missed Kas vs MaNa. Epic Game, definitely recommend that you watch it. Caught the end. I was hoping to see the two best foreigner Terrans have at it (Kas and Thorzain).
The match is not WL style, Thorzain beat Aristeo, and the only was Thorzain and Kas'll play each other in this match is if it goes to ace.
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On February 03 2012 12:24 Elyvilon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 12:21 Ostracized wrote:On February 03 2012 12:19 ~Maverick~ wrote:On February 03 2012 12:19 Ostracized wrote:
Did I miss Kas v. Thorzain?? No, you missed Kas vs MaNa. Epic Game, definitely recommend that you watch it. Caught the end. I was hoping to see the two best foreigner Terrans have at it (Kas and Thorzain). The match is not WL style, Thorzain beat Aristeo, and the only was Thorzain and Kas'll play each other in this match is if it goes to ace.
yeah lol nasl is the only league ever that doesn't do WL hahahah
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grubby is such a good caster
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Lol Grubby goes deep analysis mode, and Greotorp is like ' yea, aha, hum , ye'
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no results
a little surprised but GG
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wow so empire 3-0 in this league very nice.
they got really good matchups
ZVP for violet
TVP for kas
TVZ for beastyqt
and managing to dodge thorzian 
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NASL got two of the maps wrong in the OP... How?
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On February 03 2012 12:36 Dexington wrote:
NASL got two of the maps wrong in the OP... How?
The same way they got the time wrong initially.
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Thought MaNa would beat Kas.
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Russian Federation138 Posts
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United Kingdom14464 Posts
TT, Mouz has dropped off a bit in team leagues recently, they used to never lose.
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Haha Grubby taking over :D . Empire is playing so impressive these days, gj guys.
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On February 03 2012 20:49 MCDayC wrote:
TT, Mouz has dropped off a bit in team leagues recently, they used to never lose.
Partly due to MorroW being in Korea and not really playing in team leagues anymore.
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yeah gj Empire!
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as i said, 3-1 for empire) the only lose is aristeo < thorzain, very predictable
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Too bad Thorzain got to play vs aristeo :/
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United Kingdom14464 Posts
On February 03 2012 22:07 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 20:49 MCDayC wrote:
TT, Mouz has dropped off a bit in team leagues recently, they used to never lose. Partly due to MorroW being in Korea and not really playing in team leagues anymore.
Plus Mana and Hasu have dropped off a bit, Hasu for the last couple of months, and Mana just since Christmas. Thorzain is looking strong as always though.
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wow mouz gets really unlucky with the matchups ....
well played by empire thery beasting themselves to victory in nastl i would imagine
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Omg Grubby,,,AWESOME commentator!
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Empire are doing great lately, congrats
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On February 04 2012 04:17 mythandier wrote:
Kas so good
Yeah winning battles without much micro  no stutter steps, quite strange to see him come out ahead in so many of those final fights when often less than 50% of his M&M were actually firing. No lategame drops, losing a dozen command centres. I agree with Grubby, it's very sad.
This is relative to watching Terrans at the GSL of course.
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Grubby is a great commentator. Very insightful and good casting voice as well. <3
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nice games, and Grubby is awesome
and beasty will roflstomp Bigs imho.
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HAHAH Terran rape & pillage against poor protoss.
I didn't know that Grubby was the chief of Aiur propaganda :D
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Just watched the rebroadcast... Grubby is such a great caster <3
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1st time I watched the teamleague and really liked it. 1080p for free is great and the new studio looks good keep improving. I will tune in more (again  )
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Grubby's casting is just awesome. Love his sense of humor and game knowledge.
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