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Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
January 15 2012 17:13 GMT
#2281
Let's be honest here guys:

TvZ on Tal Darim Altar.

Do you expect an 11/11? ...In most cases: no.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
January 15 2012 17:13 GMT
#2282
On January 16 2012 02:12 msjakofsky wrote:
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On January 16 2012 02:11 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Ret dying from greedy play again? Sometimes you just have to do speedling openings.


he went like 17 hatch into pool?

standard 15 hatch but 17 pool
I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
January 15 2012 17:13 GMT
#2283
On January 16 2012 02:13 Demonaz wrote:
17pool? Ret why, why?!

He needed drones.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Titorelli
Profile Joined March 2011
2492 Posts
January 15 2012 17:13 GMT
#2284
Lol just went away and now its the 5th game, awesome! :D
"Everybody poops.... after Tasteless kills them" Artosis
HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
January 15 2012 17:13 GMT
#2285
On January 16 2012 02:07 Sated wrote:
No, Apollo, a coin-flippy ZvZ is not a great final. Don't lie to people.


Not a coin-flip with stephano but it do however gonna be onesided expect 4-0 if its a ZvZ final
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
January 15 2012 17:14 GMT
#2286
On January 16 2012 02:13 Telcontar wrote:
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On January 16 2012 02:13 Demonaz wrote:
17pool? Ret why, why?!

He needed drones.


Thorzain also went greedy builds in all there prev games, so he caught Ret offguard. Nice play.
Everlong
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1973 Posts
January 15 2012 17:14 GMT
#2287
On January 16 2012 02:12 cyclone25 wrote:
Story of ZvT: zerg wins epic 20 minute macro game, loses the next one in 4 minutes :/


Let's play with me, I'll do 5 ccs rax and we can have a nice macro 25min game, u in? No rush 20 min..
HuKPOWA
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1604 Posts
January 15 2012 17:14 GMT
#2288
the most greedy build u can possibly do Ret...really? :\
ChaosTerran
Profile Joined August 2011
Austria844 Posts
January 15 2012 17:14 GMT
#2289
On January 16 2012 02:12 cyclone25 wrote:
Story of ZvT: zerg wins epic 20 minute macro game, loses the next one in 4 minutes :/


Zerg's fault for going 17 pool. That's about as greedy as you can be, why should the terran not punish it?
alistarnl
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands144 Posts
January 15 2012 17:15 GMT
#2290
On January 16 2012 02:12 HuKPOWA wrote:
wow....Ret didn't play that well at all....


... He did 15 hatch 17 pool against 11/11 baracks. That has nothing to do with playing well or not it's just a straight up build order loss.
Night Eyes
Profile Joined January 2011
433 Posts
January 15 2012 17:15 GMT
#2291
On January 16 2012 02:12 HuKPOWA wrote:
wow....Ret didn't play that well at all....

There was nothing he could do, ThorZaIN won the mind game of that match before the game even begun.
excellent!
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
January 15 2012 17:15 GMT
#2292
On January 16 2012 01:46 betaman wrote:
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On January 16 2012 01:42 WaldosLonelyWife wrote:


I don't believe I have to give examples, but in the event that I really have to then I will. Just for you. I never said being enthusiastic while casting is bad, I said being overly enthusiastic. Which happens pretty much every engagement in which he yells into the microphone, scrambles his words, and presents false theories of who will win based off his lack of education. Last time I watched him stream he was in silver league. If he is in gold now, the concept is the same. I appreciate his efforts too with the community. That doesn't mean he is immune to my criticism. I don't think money is an issue from someone who is partnered with YouTube, TwitchTV, runs his own website, and also funds tournaments with the aid of donations as well.


I've never heard TB scramble his words once during a big engagement. Now we know you are just a troll please go away, you are not welcome here.


Just because you havent heard it doesnt mean it hasnt happened, but the point is extremely weak, even day9 and tastosis have stumbled over their words in particularly heated moments
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-15 17:16:33
January 15 2012 17:16 GMT
#2293
All fine if he does drone scout. I even heard ret say recently that he likes to scout cross-position first because of the 11-11 rax'ing in the middle. He obviously wanted to counter the fast-third play from tzhain, but this seems like an somewhat obvious possibility after Thorzain was beaten quite handily in two macro games.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
January 15 2012 17:16 GMT
#2294
i would just LOVEEEE it if Thorzain did 11.11 one more time.

it would be the most unexpected thing ever.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Onos
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada107 Posts
January 15 2012 17:16 GMT
#2295
On January 16 2012 02:14 ChaosTerran wrote:
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On January 16 2012 02:12 cyclone25 wrote:
Story of ZvT: zerg wins epic 20 minute macro game, loses the next one in 4 minutes :/


Zerg's fault for going 17 pool. That's about as greedy as you can be, why should the terran not punish it?


Yes, because Thorzain didn't go 11/11 blind right? He scouted the 17 pool and then went 11/11.
Kerence
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1817 Posts
January 15 2012 17:16 GMT
#2296
On January 16 2012 02:06 Baobab wrote:
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On January 16 2012 01:50 Kerence wrote:
On January 16 2012 01:48 Baobab wrote:
I'm loving this retro video game music he plays during the breaks, Donkey Kong, old SC, and what have you... anyone know where can I find this music??? I want to listen to it while I ladder.

Also sick game by Ret! I love seeing ghosts get molested by a rain of broodlings :D


It's been Warcraft 2 music these last few breaks.
And it's not exactly hard to find game music on the internet, most of it can probably even be found on youtube if you know what you're looking for.


Definitely heard BW music and I thought I heard DK, but I might be crazy. Anyways yeah I see what you mean... found vgmusic.com which is basically everything I could have hoped for, didn't think it would be so easy...


Yeah, there was BW music during the advertisements for those who don't get those, and then there was War2 while showing the brackets. There might have been DK-music as well, I haven't really played those, so I wouldn't recognize it. Glad you found what you were looking for (see, it was pretty easy ), game music can be pretty amazing.
I am here in the shadows.
Demonaz
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1219 Posts
January 15 2012 17:17 GMT
#2297
How much is really lost with an early drone scout? It just seems safe to have something out there checking. Still, great choice from Thorzain.
Theovide
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden914 Posts
January 15 2012 17:18 GMT
#2298
On January 16 2012 02:12 cyclone25 wrote:
Story of ZvT: zerg wins epic 20 minute macro game, loses the next one in 4 minutes :/

ThorZain won the first game which was a macro one? Ret played amazing in the two games he took of course, but to be honest both meta and terminus cross are kind of Z favored.
Flanq
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom2694 Posts
January 15 2012 17:18 GMT
#2299
Apollo obsing now, good times. I love TB but his obs skills aren't high.
ChaosTerran
Profile Joined August 2011
Austria844 Posts
January 15 2012 17:18 GMT
#2300
On January 16 2012 02:16 Onos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 02:14 ChaosTerran wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:12 cyclone25 wrote:
Story of ZvT: zerg wins epic 20 minute macro game, loses the next one in 4 minutes :/


Zerg's fault for going 17 pool. That's about as greedy as you can be, why should the terran not punish it?


Yes, because Thorzain didn't go 11/11 blind right? He scouted the 17 pool and then went 11/11.


No, but what's your point? Why not just go triple expand every game, because if the terran ever attacks it means he's a cheesing noob? you can't just play super greedy every single game (which is what ret does) and expect people not to blind counter it by... I dont know... attacking you.
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