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If you don't know how to post in a live report thread by now, be advised: don't whine about game balance and don't bash players/casters/interviewers/staff/other posters. And don't start the USA USA USA!!! stuff.

Vote for how the Twitch.tv donation should be used here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=301068
Elefanto
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland3584 Posts
January 06 2012 15:58 GMT
#1381
On January 07 2012 00:56 Medrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 00:31 Neelia wrote:
On January 07 2012 00:27 Waxangel wrote:
I'll just leave this here

[image loading]


That should clear up all the talks whether Huks DH/HSC cup wins belong to EG now!


Who is that anyway?


Wax
wat
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
January 06 2012 15:58 GMT
#1382
On January 07 2012 00:56 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 00:56 Hall0wed wrote:
Kawaii jokes about HerO beating him with offrace but some Koreans have offraces that could compete in foreign events easily. Alive's zerg, MVP's Zerg and Protoss, and many others. >_<


MC's Terran. He crushed EU ladder with pure marine, and his practice games in Korea with Terran looked formidable.


he beat nerchios zerg with terran before hsc3, althought it wasnt obviously the same Z as he is now
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
January 06 2012 15:58 GMT
#1383
On January 07 2012 00:57 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 00:56 Medrea wrote:
On January 07 2012 00:31 Neelia wrote:
On January 07 2012 00:27 Waxangel wrote:
I'll just leave this here

[image loading]


That should clear up all the talks whether Huks DH/HSC cup wins belong to EG now!


Who is that anyway?

Waxangel


I suspected as much.
twitch.tv/medrea
WerderBremen
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany1070 Posts
January 06 2012 15:58 GMT
#1384
IMO absolute awesome casting on channel 2.
"Thats the moment you send the kids outta the room - when you get contained by MarineKing." Tasteless
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
January 06 2012 15:58 GMT
#1385
"Naama : I need to pee, Nightend was taking a shit thats why the delay "

naama such a troll
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
January 06 2012 15:59 GMT
#1386
Wow HerO is so damn good. Ridiculous!
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 06 2012 15:59 GMT
#1387
On January 07 2012 00:57 Whalecore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 00:44 SeaSwift wrote:
On January 07 2012 00:39 KalWarkov wrote:
On January 07 2012 00:37 Inflicted_ wrote:
On January 07 2012 00:36 Malinor wrote:
The skillcap between JYP and Darkhydra is mind-boggling.


Shows the huge difference between Korean TvP and foreigner TvP too.


lol not at all.

darkhydra is a low-mid GM player - and he rly tries his best in ladder as 15year old kids do. He is not nearly one of the best foreign representetives.


On the other hand, JYP has awful PvT in Korea. Neither are close to being the top of their respective races in that matchup.

I cannot find a reason why any Protoss player can be so extremely good in PvZ, and struggling PvT.

PvT is such an easy matchup to learn, everything is very mechanical and revolves around remembering/knowing timings -- Yes it can be very micro intensive, but so can PvZ. With a couple of hours practice every day PvT becomes a very natural matchup.

PvZ however, relies on game knowledge and dynamic responses, it is a decision based matchup that is very hard to learn because there are so many tiny factors. Mastering PvZ means knowing a lot about both races and how they work.

I'm pretty sure I could coach a platinum player to master league level PvT with few of weeks of practice, but PvZ would be a pain.

I don't think PvT is Protoss favored, but it's just a very clean matchup which is easy to understand.

That is how I look at it at least.. ^-^

If you look at JYP records in GSL it's mindblowing.
Both his pvp and pvz are better than 70% and he has 0% in PvT. That's just incredible. Especialy because a good chunk of his pvp took place in the post 1-1-1 era
Zest fanboy.
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
January 06 2012 15:59 GMT
#1388
On January 07 2012 00:57 Whalecore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 00:44 SeaSwift wrote:
On January 07 2012 00:39 KalWarkov wrote:
On January 07 2012 00:37 Inflicted_ wrote:
On January 07 2012 00:36 Malinor wrote:
The skillcap between JYP and Darkhydra is mind-boggling.


Shows the huge difference between Korean TvP and foreigner TvP too.


lol not at all.

darkhydra is a low-mid GM player - and he rly tries his best in ladder as 15year old kids do. He is not nearly one of the best foreign representetives.


On the other hand, JYP has awful PvT in Korea. Neither are close to being the top of their respective races in that matchup.

I cannot find a reason why any Protoss player can be so extremely good in PvZ, and struggling PvT.

PvT is such an easy matchup to learn, everything is very mechanical and revolves around remembering/knowing timings -- Yes it can be very micro intensive, but so can PvZ. With a couple of hours practice every day PvT becomes a very natural matchup.

PvZ however, relies on game knowledge and dynamic responses, it is a decision based matchup that is very hard to learn because there are so many tiny factors. Mastering PvZ means knowing a lot about both races and how they work.

I'm pretty sure I could coach a platinum player to master league level PvT with few of weeks of practice, but PvZ would be a pain.

I don't think PvT is Protoss favored, but it's just a very clean matchup which is easy to understand. On the highest level I feel it is purely about who is the better player when it comes down to preparation of build orders, multitasking and execution

That is how I look at it at least.. ^-^


I think it's a comfort thing. Because JYP has never been confident in PvT, he's always resigned when he faces a decent Terran. He lacks enthusiasm and cannot translate his gamesense from PvZ/PvP to PvT.
whiteLotus
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
1833 Posts
January 06 2012 15:59 GMT
#1389
every homestory cup is full of naama stories LOL
The bird of Hermes is my name, eating my wings to make me tame
tomrh3
Profile Joined August 2011
12 Posts
January 06 2012 15:59 GMT
#1390
why are 30000 people watching this?
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
January 06 2012 15:59 GMT
#1391
On January 07 2012 00:57 ReseT wrote:
LETS GO GRUBBY KING OF ORC

Being King of Orcs is like being King of Scumbags though.
#freeshauni
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-06 16:00:27
January 06 2012 15:59 GMT
#1392
" I LOST MY KEY !!!! "

Naama is just awesome ♥
Terminal
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom2109 Posts
January 06 2012 16:00 GMT
#1393
On January 07 2012 00:59 tomrh3 wrote:
why are 30000 people watching this?

Why not?..
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
January 06 2012 16:00 GMT
#1394
On January 07 2012 00:59 tomrh3 wrote:
why are 30000 people watching this?

Yeh there should be more !
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
January 06 2012 16:00 GMT
#1395
On January 07 2012 00:59 tomrh3 wrote:
why are 30000 people watching this?

Because it's fucking awesome?
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
January 06 2012 16:00 GMT
#1396
On January 07 2012 01:00 KiNGxXx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 00:59 tomrh3 wrote:
why are 30000 people watching this?

Because it's fucking awesome?
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

OMG. I have to go watch that interview now.
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
January 06 2012 16:00 GMT
#1397
Only got like 8 workers mining + 2 mules? Same mining amount as full saturation lol!

HerO come on win this!!! :-/
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Czarnodziej
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland624 Posts
January 06 2012 16:01 GMT
#1398
On January 07 2012 00:59 tomrh3 wrote:
why are 30000 people watching this?

Because it is best SC2 tournament to date.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
January 06 2012 16:01 GMT
#1399
On January 07 2012 00:59 tomrh3 wrote:
why are 30000 people watching this?


Because this tournament is fucking amazing, go troll elsewhere.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
JohnnyBanana
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada493 Posts
January 06 2012 16:01 GMT
#1400
On January 07 2012 01:00 Benjef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 01:00 KiNGxXx wrote:
On January 07 2012 00:59 tomrh3 wrote:
why are 30000 people watching this?

Because it's fucking awesome?
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

OMG. I have to go watch that interview now.

LINK INTERVIEW PLEASE!!!!!!
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