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If you don't know how to post in a live report thread by now, be advised: don't whine about game balance and don't bash players/casters/interviewers/staff/other posters. And don't start the USA USA USA!!! stuff.

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Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
January 06 2012 15:56 GMT
#1361
Kawaii jokes about HerO beating him with offrace but some Koreans have offraces that could compete in foreign events easily. Alive's zerg, MVP's Zerg and Protoss, and many others. >_<
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
January 06 2012 15:56 GMT
#1362
BIIIIIIT BYYYYY BIIIIIIIIIIIIT
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8324 Posts
January 06 2012 15:56 GMT
#1363
Wow, just checked the results so far here and of code A qualifiers last night. My goodness this game is well balanced these days.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
January 06 2012 15:56 GMT
#1364
On January 07 2012 00:31 Neelia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 00:27 Waxangel wrote:
I'll just leave this here

[image loading]


That should clear up all the talks whether Huks DH/HSC cup wins belong to EG now!


Who is that anyway?
twitch.tv/medrea
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 06 2012 15:56 GMT
#1365
On January 07 2012 00:56 Hall0wed wrote:
Kawaii jokes about HerO beating him with offrace but some Koreans have offraces that could compete in foreign events easily. Alive's zerg, MVP's Zerg and Protoss, and many others. >_<


Mvp ladder zerg can compete with every terran on the ladder. It'd be dominate in his case :D
Zest fanboy.
Carnagath
Profile Joined July 2010
230 Posts
January 06 2012 15:56 GMT
#1366
"Economical cheese". /v/, I'm proud of you.
"If you can chill, chill". -Tyler
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
January 06 2012 15:56 GMT
#1367
On January 07 2012 00:56 Hall0wed wrote:
Kawaii jokes about HerO beating him with offrace but some Koreans have offraces that could compete in foreign events easily. Alive's zerg, MVP's Zerg and Protoss, and many others. >_<


MC's Terran. He crushed EU ladder with pure marine, and his practice games in Korea with Terran looked formidable.
WhurreOdu
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1739 Posts
January 06 2012 15:57 GMT
#1368
So much love
Fut am Bam
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
January 06 2012 15:57 GMT
#1369
it's true, the production is sooo top notch. everything is on time and everything works like a charm.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Moxi
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
708 Posts
January 06 2012 15:57 GMT
#1370
happy birthday :D
zineryt
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom53 Posts
January 06 2012 15:57 GMT
#1371
MoMan is great, loving his casting
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
January 06 2012 15:57 GMT
#1372
You can never judge a banjo by his appearance, they are by nature conserved.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
January 06 2012 15:57 GMT
#1373
On January 07 2012 00:56 Medrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 00:31 Neelia wrote:
On January 07 2012 00:27 Waxangel wrote:
I'll just leave this here

[image loading]


That should clear up all the talks whether Huks DH/HSC cup wins belong to EG now!


Who is that anyway?

Waxangel
Whalecore
Profile Joined March 2009
Norway1111 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-06 15:58:06
January 06 2012 15:57 GMT
#1374
On January 07 2012 00:44 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 00:39 KalWarkov wrote:
On January 07 2012 00:37 Inflicted_ wrote:
On January 07 2012 00:36 Malinor wrote:
The skillcap between JYP and Darkhydra is mind-boggling.


Shows the huge difference between Korean TvP and foreigner TvP too.


lol not at all.

darkhydra is a low-mid GM player - and he rly tries his best in ladder as 15year old kids do. He is not nearly one of the best foreign representetives.


On the other hand, JYP has awful PvT in Korea. Neither are close to being the top of their respective races in that matchup.

I cannot find a reason why any Protoss player can be so extremely good in PvZ, and struggling PvT.

PvT is such an easy matchup to learn, everything is very mechanical and revolves around remembering/knowing timings -- Yes it can be very micro intensive, but so can PvZ. With a couple of hours practice every day PvT becomes a very natural matchup.

PvZ however, relies on game knowledge and dynamic responses, it is a decision based matchup that is very hard to learn because there are so many tiny factors. Mastering PvZ means knowing a lot about both races and how they work.

I'm pretty sure I could coach a platinum player to master league level PvT with few of weeks of practice, but PvZ would be a pain.

I don't think PvT is Protoss favored, but it's just a very clean matchup which is easy to understand. On the highest level I feel it is purely about who is the better player when it comes down to preparation of build orders, multitasking and execution

That is how I look at it at least.. ^-^
Playgu
Jochan
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Poland1730 Posts
January 06 2012 15:57 GMT
#1375
Kwairice saw nexus first and is going to punish it, just like Select did in MLG I believe, scouted nexus first 4 rax and GG :D
"(...)all in the game, yo. All in the game"
Titorelli
Profile Joined March 2011
2492 Posts
January 06 2012 15:57 GMT
#1376
On January 07 2012 00:56 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 00:56 Hall0wed wrote:
Kawaii jokes about HerO beating him with offrace but some Koreans have offraces that could compete in foreign events easily. Alive's zerg, MVP's Zerg and Protoss, and many others. >_<


Mvp ladder zerg can compete with every terran on the ladder. It'd be dominate in his case :D

Ture dat, Mvps zerg is sooo great
"Everybody poops.... after Tasteless kills them" Artosis
ReseT
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States273 Posts
January 06 2012 15:57 GMT
#1377
LETS GO GRUBBY KING OF ORC

vVv Gaming
0ne
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Spain2464 Posts
January 06 2012 15:58 GMT
#1378
Biiiiiitbyyyyyybiiiiiit
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
January 06 2012 15:58 GMT
#1379
COME ON BANJO. We believe!
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
January 06 2012 15:58 GMT
#1380
On January 07 2012 00:56 Hall0wed wrote:
Kawaii jokes about HerO beating him with offrace but some Koreans have offraces that could compete in foreign events easily. Alive's zerg, MVP's Zerg and Protoss, and many others. >_<


MVP knows nothing about Protoss. Not even a build order. He admitted that himself. There's a huge difference beating a terrible low masters zerg on the ladder and competing in events.
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