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kekstier
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany70 Posts
January 06 2012 19:09 GMT
#3521
On January 07 2012 04:08 Dexington wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 04:06 Plexa wrote:
Is it just me or
WC3 fans praise grubby for his micro
BW fans think ret fucked up horribly


Ret may have fucked up, but you cannot deny that Grubby played outstandingly well.


Without those mistakes Ret still wouldn't have won directly, but the games would have been even and lasted longer.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-06 19:10:02
January 06 2012 19:09 GMT
#3522
Ret lost that game. He didn't need to chase Grubby with the small number of Roaches after the first attack, he should have just kept massing and waiting for his Infestors. And Grubby had no sentries, so why not make some lings???
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
January 06 2012 19:09 GMT
#3523
On January 07 2012 04:08 kekstier wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 04:07 wonkman wrote:
the casters and whatnot missed it but ret mistimed his infestors, and only 2 of them came out when his energy upgrade was finished so the first 3 or so he thought he was going to have fungal and he didnt



I think it was only 1 without energy.

No, I saw ret make....6 infestors? And only 2 of them popped with pathogen glands done.
Felo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany392 Posts
January 06 2012 19:09 GMT
#3524
I really have to say that I enjoyed Destinys casting, I hope that we'll see more of that throughout the tournament, he was spot-on and to the point with his remarks.

Grubby played well, sad that we didn't see his lategame, I was interested in that but as the tournament goes on for a while - we'll hopefully see ^.^
EU GML P | Check my Stream (with commentary!) -> www.twitch.tv/xFelo
laharl23
Profile Joined February 2011
United States582 Posts
January 06 2012 19:09 GMT
#3525
On January 07 2012 04:07 Bastilol wrote:
@oGsMC 장민철
Stephano vs Sound will be casted by @MKPS2 @minsikko and me.yeahhh

I'm so happy now!


nice
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
January 06 2012 19:09 GMT
#3526
Its only a matter of time before Grubby tunes his skills the way he did in WC3. This is just the beginning!
creepcolony
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany362 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-06 19:09:46
January 06 2012 19:09 GMT
#3527
On January 07 2012 04:06 Plexa wrote:
Is it just me or
WC3 fans praise grubby for his micro
BW fans think ret fucked up horribly


Ret made the mistake destiny was speaking of. He never accumulated enough roaches to really kill stalkers after the initial engagement. Grubby played quite good too though.
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
January 06 2012 19:09 GMT
#3528
On January 07 2012 04:08 kekstier wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 04:07 wonkman wrote:
the casters and whatnot missed it but ret mistimed his infestors, and only 2 of them came out when his energy upgrade was finished so the first 3 or so he thought he was going to have fungal and he didnt



I think it was only 1 without energy.

Nah, his first three had not enough energy, you could see him realizing that halfway and just dropping IT's.
It appears I have been chosen.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
January 06 2012 19:09 GMT
#3529
On January 07 2012 04:06 Plexa wrote:
Is it just me or
WC3 fans praise grubby for his micro
BW fans think ret fucked up horribly

both are true, but in those position at that time ret was so ahead he could take it with ling roach easily, it was his game to lose but only when grubby had perfect micro because he was so far behind
Stork[gm]
iSunrise
Profile Joined June 2011
3302 Posts
January 06 2012 19:09 GMT
#3530
On January 07 2012 04:06 Schelim wrote:
[image loading]

ROFL
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-06 19:10:00
January 06 2012 19:09 GMT
#3531
Micro was really inconsequential, Ret forced a fight between equal numbers of Blink Stalkers and Roaches and you don't need stellar micro to keep winning those engagements at all. -_-
qqK
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany282 Posts
January 06 2012 19:09 GMT
#3532
dat Grubbstar. Mund auf, Skill rein.
templar rage
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2509 Posts
January 06 2012 19:09 GMT
#3533
Ret missed his Infestor timing, so I don't think those initial 4 popped with FG. If he had FG at that time, Grubby probably loses the majority of his army because Ret's army was about the biggest it had been all game. I don't agree with him chasing as far as he did either.
decerto
Profile Joined November 2011
244 Posts
January 06 2012 19:09 GMT
#3534
On January 07 2012 04:06 Plexa wrote:
Is it just me or
WC3 fans praise grubby for his micro
BW fans think ret fucked up horribly


replace wc3 with grubby and bw with ret and you have it, it has zero to do with what games they played before hand they are sc2 players now:/
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
January 06 2012 19:09 GMT
#3535
"I was dimaga own some ass with mutas" oh I love you ret I love you
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
Rowa
Profile Joined July 2010
Belgium962 Posts
January 06 2012 19:10 GMT
#3536
Stephano vs Sound casted by MC ? = Epic incoming.
♞ To obtain a bird's eyes is to turn a blizzard to a breeze ♞
enemy2010
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1972 Posts
January 06 2012 19:10 GMT
#3537
On January 07 2012 04:09 Felo wrote:
I really have to say that I enjoyed Destinys casting, I hope that we'll see more of that throughout the tournament, he was spot-on and to the point with his remarks.

Grubby played well, sad that we didn't see his lategame, I was interested in that but as the tournament goes on for a while - we'll hopefully see ^.^

Yeah, Steven is actually really smart reagarding SC2. And Incontrol, too.

Such a great combo.
1on1 auf azze no he no flash no awp only holztor. | Ja, da meint der ich hätt' abgeschmatzt, aber dat is Quatsch, verstehste?
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-06 19:15:44
January 06 2012 19:10 GMT
#3538
Micro? Grubby won in typical BW economic fashion - killed expo, pulled back (very disciplined move), and utilized an additional expo that he took meanwhile.

I think we are way past the point we should reason about Grubby as an "ex-War3 player". Grubby is one of the best professionals in esports, and is now fully into Starcraft. So, he learned to think and win like a true starcrafter.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
discobaas
Profile Joined December 2011
225 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-06 19:10:53
January 06 2012 19:10 GMT
#3539
On January 07 2012 04:06 Plexa wrote:
Is it just me or
WC3 fans praise grubby for his micro
BW fans think ret fucked up horribly

I'm neither of those and I think it's pretty obvious that Ret messed up. Losing too many roaches for free when he should've pulled back and waited for reinforcements and losing those infestors for free. Grubby just did a standard P blind 2base thing and he has nice blink, sure, but that wasn't really the deciding factor.
you're wrong
SeriouR
Profile Joined November 2010
Spain622 Posts
January 06 2012 19:10 GMT
#3540
Ret basically had what it takes to defend that attack from Grubby, the problem is that he kept on losing gropus of units before he hit that critical mass where no blink can help you poor ret though, gl in next matches!!
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