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kekstier

Germany70 Posts

January 06 2012 19:09 GMT

#3521

On January 07 2012 04:08 Dexington wrote:

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Ret may have fucked up, but you cannot deny that Grubby played outstandingly well.

Without those mistakes Ret still wouldn't have won directly, but the games would have been even and lasted longer.

sitromit

7051 Posts

January 06 2012 19:09 GMT

#3522

Ret lost that game. He didn't need to chase Grubby with the small number of Roaches after the first attack, he should have just kept massing and waiting for his Infestors. And Grubby had no sentries, so why not make some lings???

dmnum

Brazil6910 Posts

January 06 2012 19:09 GMT

#3523

On January 07 2012 04:08 kekstier wrote:

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I think it was only 1 without energy.

No, I saw ret make....6 infestors? And only 2 of them popped with pathogen glands done.

Felo

Germany392 Posts

January 06 2012 19:09 GMT

#3524

I really have to say that I enjoyed Destinys casting, I hope that we'll see more of that throughout the tournament, he was spot-on and to the point with his remarks.

Grubby played well, sad that we didn't see his lategame, I was interested in that but as the tournament goes on for a while - we'll hopefully see ^.^

laharl23

United States582 Posts

January 06 2012 19:09 GMT

#3525

On January 07 2012 04:07 Bastilol wrote:
@oGsMC 장민철
Stephano vs Sound will be casted by @MKPS2 @minsikko and me.yeahhh

I'm so happy now!

nice

Mohdoo

United States15737 Posts

January 06 2012 19:09 GMT

#3526

Its only a matter of time before Grubby tunes his skills the way he did in WC3. This is just the beginning!

creepcolony

Germany362 Posts

January 06 2012 19:09 GMT

#3527

On January 07 2012 04:06 Plexa wrote:
Is it just me or
WC3 fans praise grubby for his micro
BW fans think ret fucked up horribly

Ret made the mistake destiny was speaking of. He never accumulated enough roaches to really kill stalkers after the initial engagement. Grubby played quite good too though.

Fyzar

Netherlands8010 Posts

January 06 2012 19:09 GMT

#3528

On January 07 2012 04:08 kekstier wrote:

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I think it was only 1 without energy.

Nah, his first three had not enough energy, you could see him realizing that halfway and just dropping IT's.

bgx

Poland6595 Posts

January 06 2012 19:09 GMT

#3529

On January 07 2012 04:06 Plexa wrote:
Is it just me or
WC3 fans praise grubby for his micro
BW fans think ret fucked up horribly

both are true, but in those position at that time ret was so ahead he could take it with ling roach easily, it was his game to lose but only when grubby had perfect micro because he was so far behind

iSunrise

3302 Posts

January 06 2012 19:09 GMT

#3530

On January 07 2012 04:06 Schelim wrote:
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ROFL

Talin

Montenegro10532 Posts

January 06 2012 19:09 GMT

#3531

Micro was really inconsequential, Ret forced a fight between equal numbers of Blink Stalkers and Roaches and you don't need stellar micro to keep winning those engagements at all. -_-

qqK

Germany282 Posts

January 06 2012 19:09 GMT

#3532

dat Grubbstar. Mund auf, Skill rein.

templar rage

United States2509 Posts

January 06 2012 19:09 GMT

#3533

Ret missed his Infestor timing, so I don't think those initial 4 popped with FG. If he had FG at that time, Grubby probably loses the majority of his army because Ret's army was about the biggest it had been all game. I don't agree with him chasing as far as he did either.

decerto

244 Posts

January 06 2012 19:09 GMT

#3534

On January 07 2012 04:06 Plexa wrote:
Is it just me or
WC3 fans praise grubby for his micro
BW fans think ret fucked up horribly

replace wc3 with grubby and bw with ret and you have it, it has zero to do with what games they played before hand they are sc2 players now:/

Yaki

France4234 Posts

January 06 2012 19:09 GMT

#3535

"I was dimaga own some ass with mutas" oh I love you ret I love you

Rowa

Belgium962 Posts

January 06 2012 19:10 GMT

#3536

Stephano vs Sound casted by MC ? = Epic incoming.

enemy2010

Germany1972 Posts

January 06 2012 19:10 GMT

#3537

On January 07 2012 04:09 Felo wrote:
I really have to say that I enjoyed Destinys casting, I hope that we'll see more of that throughout the tournament, he was spot-on and to the point with his remarks.

Grubby played well, sad that we didn't see his lategame, I was interested in that but as the tournament goes on for a while - we'll hopefully see ^.^

Yeah, Steven is actually really smart reagarding SC2. And Incontrol, too.

Such a great combo.

figq

12519 Posts

January 06 2012 19:10 GMT

#3538

Micro? Grubby won in typical BW economic fashion - killed expo, pulled back (very disciplined move), and utilized an additional expo that he took meanwhile.

I think we are way past the point we should reason about Grubby as an "ex-War3 player". Grubby is one of the best professionals in esports, and is now fully into Starcraft. So, he learned to think and win like a true starcrafter.

discobaas

225 Posts

January 06 2012 19:10 GMT

#3539

On January 07 2012 04:06 Plexa wrote:
Is it just me or
WC3 fans praise grubby for his micro
BW fans think ret fucked up horribly

I'm neither of those and I think it's pretty obvious that Ret messed up. Losing too many roaches for free when he should've pulled back and waited for reinforcements and losing those infestors for free. Grubby just did a standard P blind 2base thing and he has nice blink, sure, but that wasn't really the deciding factor.

SeriouR

Spain622 Posts

January 06 2012 19:10 GMT

#3540

Ret basically had what it takes to defend that attack from Grubby, the problem is that he kept on losing gropus of units before he hit that critical mass where no blink can help you

poor ret though, gl in next matches!!