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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 17 2011 10:27 GMT
#4601
On December 17 2011 19:26 Gorlin wrote:
Geez Artosis just refuses to give credit to MMA

He will once he 4-1's DRG
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
December 17 2011 10:27 GMT
#4602
On December 17 2011 19:25 Chise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 19:24 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:23 Serpico wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:22 Pajegetc wrote:
Holy shit MMA that was amazing. Sick hold to a sick comeback.

Letting 22 workers die is a sick hold?


It's a sick hold in that it would've killed many lesser Terrans.


DRG droned behind it.


Because MMA blocked his entrance by moving his Barracks & Factory while building a bunker, DURING the attack.
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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
December 17 2011 10:27 GMT
#4603
I also think MMA was behind, but not really worlds behind. The game was definitely still doable for him given triple Mules and the fact he saved all his CCs and production.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
December 17 2011 10:27 GMT
#4604
On December 17 2011 19:26 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 19:25 MooMooMugi wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:24 Shikyo wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:22 MooMooMugi wrote:
Dat cloak was SUCH a good decision

No, it was desperate. If DRG had paid attention and made spores he'd have GGd. It was his ONLY chance. And somehow DRG blew it. And no Artosis, it's not a small mistake, it's a huge one. It's like scouting cloaked banshees and making no detection... When's anyone here done that?

He started the upgrade as he was making his first one, it was clearly part of his build. Its a very good counter to roach/baneling all-in if you can survive the attack

Only if they make no spores(which they should 110% of the time after scouting banshees)

Yeah, I agree, thats why I said in another post that DRG underestimated MMA's banshees and tried to depend on his queens
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antilyon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Brazil2546 Posts
December 17 2011 10:27 GMT
#4605
Second set on Tal'Darim Altar.
DRG spawning on 8'o clock;
MMA spawning on 4'o clock;
RooStaR
Profile Joined January 2011
United States58 Posts
December 17 2011 10:27 GMT
#4606
On December 17 2011 19:22 Mascherano wrote:
Cloaked Banshee is a good skill toi have



DRG lost because of his mistake of not preparing, not because of cloaked banshees. Go QQ somewhere else. If DRG made even 1 spore in each base he would have easily won.
Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
December 17 2011 10:27 GMT
#4607
On December 17 2011 19:23 Fionn wrote:
Also MMA was never behind. DRG lost his entire army. He didn't kill the Starport. He had nothing to counter banshees.


You have no clue what you are talking about. DRG was up 30 workers and MMA:

1: Didn't even have his 2nd expo planted back down
2: No production facilities (except his 1-1-1)
3: No army as well (except 2 banshees)

MMA was dead if DRG didn't have a ridiculous brain fart in not making 1 spore at each base after seeing 3 banshees.
Bug Fixes Fixed an issue where, when facing a SlayerS terran, completing a hatchery would cause a medivac and 8 marines to randomly spawn nearby and attack it.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
December 17 2011 10:27 GMT
#4608
14 cc for mma
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Felo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany392 Posts
December 17 2011 10:27 GMT
#4609
I wonder if MMA wants to play a regular macro game on TDA or is there another crazy strategy waiting.
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Djeez
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
543 Posts
December 17 2011 10:27 GMT
#4610
SlayerS' EMMEMAY!
''Watching steppes of war in the gsl would be like watching the dreamhack 1.6 finals start out on fy_iceworld. '' -red_b
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
December 17 2011 10:27 GMT
#4611
On December 17 2011 19:25 Sub40APM wrote:
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On December 17 2011 19:23 TheDwf wrote:
You can smell SlayerS preparation in this game. This reactor hellion with cloaked banshees to cover double expand was designed in such a way that it would not die to this kind of roach/bane/ling push. Wp.

? It would have died if DRG put up 1 spore for visions. Even with 3 CCs worth of mules he wouldnt have crawled back...

3 MULEs = 13 SCVs.
DRG had to cut drones to attack.
DRG should have built many spores to hold Banshee follow-up.
So, no, MMA was not dead at all, even after losing 22 SCVs.
sickra
Profile Joined March 2011
68 Posts
December 17 2011 10:27 GMT
#4612
Artosis subconsciously has a crush on MVP.
FORCEFIELD CAGE MARAUDER DIE DIE!!!
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
December 17 2011 10:27 GMT
#4613
14CC?
Trsjnica
Profile Joined April 2011
United States477 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-17 10:28:06
December 17 2011 10:27 GMT
#4614
MMA was never behind. He has 3 Banshees with cloak at a time when DRG didn't even have an evo chamber or a Lair started.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
December 17 2011 10:27 GMT
#4615
On December 17 2011 19:26 Drazerk wrote:
Game Two on Tal'Darim Altar

In the bottom left is DRG

While in the bottom right is MMA


2:10


Expansion first for DRG
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
December 17 2011 10:27 GMT
#4616
MMA was playing that game like MC's PvZ - fast expansion defended by a few defensive ground units and mostly flying units, with also some potential for harassment.
Ubikuuu!
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy285 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-17 10:33:00
December 17 2011 10:28 GMT
#4617
I Reccomended the game,
DRG made a silly error, no big skill involved by MMa either, but damn that was fun to watch! ^^
"…I guess you can't live very long without arousing hostility; you can't please everybody, because people want different things. Please one and you displease another."
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
December 17 2011 10:28 GMT
#4618
On December 17 2011 19:26 akalarry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 19:26 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:25 TheDwf wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:24 Disastorm wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:23 Fionn wrote:
Also MMA was never behind. DRG lost his entire army. He didn't kill the Starport. He had nothing to counter banshees.

MMA was miles behind, drg could haev easily had spores in time which would have countered the banshees along with his queens.

Not with 3 OCs.

agreed. triple mules and 3 scvs produced at the same time with a tech advantage? He wasnt miles behind. He was behind, but not miles


indeed, mma would have been at a slight disadvantage even if drg prepared with a couple spores in each base.


DRG could not take a 3th with the Banshee's out, it's true at the time DRG was slightly ahead only slightly but with MMA's 3 orbits and better tech MMA would easily take the lead again.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
December 17 2011 10:28 GMT
#4619
On December 17 2011 19:27 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 19:26 Drazerk wrote:
Game Two on Tal'Darim Altar

In the bottom left is DRG

While in the bottom right is MMA


2:10


Expansion first for DRG


2:20


Expansion first for MMA
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
December 17 2011 10:28 GMT
#4620
Roach bane usually wins the game outright if they got for 3 CCs but MMA's sneaky cloak banshee build really put the nail in the coffin.
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