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Here we go again. This weekend is about good games and good fun. Don't rain on that parade. Play nice guys. Here's the very standard and friendly:

- NO Balance Whine.
- NO Player Bashing.
- NO Caster Bashing.
- NO BM whatsoever.

Breaking these rules (from pg 166 forward) will be met with severe punishment.
hitpoint
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1511 Posts
November 20 2011 22:08 GMT
#9301
And here we go with Xel'naga again to even the score. I hope Leenock has a sick all-in planned.
It's spelled LOSE not LOOSE.
Carush
Profile Joined June 2011
United States356 Posts
November 20 2011 22:08 GMT
#9302
On November 21 2011 07:06 Raambo11 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 07:05 nkulu wrote:
what happened to MVP not making ghosts anymore


You don't go mech and make a buncha ghosts when you have no gas no tech no rax... People need to realize the game was basically just an elongated BO counter, mech is awful, I bet MVP will go marine tank next game but his wrists are probably killin him =(

this is so untrue
i mech sometimes tvz and you can easily drop 4 rax and a ghost acad
think of how many vikings he lost like 20
thats 15 ghosts right there

vikings are trash and i thought mvp knew this :/
julianto
Profile Joined December 2010
2292 Posts
November 20 2011 22:08 GMT
#9303
On November 21 2011 07:07 Darksoldierr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 07:06 eYeball wrote:
On November 21 2011 07:05 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
On November 21 2011 07:04 Carush wrote:
BITTER STOP BEING SO GODDAMN BIASED

that is all


What is wrong with being Biased?


It hurts E-sports


What dosen't hurt esports nowdays?

Cancer hurts esports. And Esports causes cancer.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
November 20 2011 22:08 GMT
#9304
That question is too hard . Losira the cat? or Leenoctopus?
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Nate.F
Profile Joined April 2011
918 Posts
November 20 2011 22:08 GMT
#9305
leenock going 10 overlord no ET
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
November 20 2011 22:08 GMT
#9306
Lol, Wheat putting bitter on the spot there :p
Omsomsoms
Profile Joined September 2011
Croatia194 Posts
November 20 2011 22:08 GMT
#9307
For all those crying about Dual Site, there, game 2 on Xel'naga Caverns, are you happy now?
zZygote
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada898 Posts
November 20 2011 22:08 GMT
#9308
On November 21 2011 07:08 Itsmedudeman wrote:
To everyone saying "he should've pushed earlier". Yeah, you have maphacks, he doesn't. No way for him to know if Leenock is teching hard or making a bunch of roaches and he loses his army.


Terran's have scan, he just didn't utilize it.
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
November 20 2011 22:08 GMT
#9309
On November 21 2011 07:08 Bayyne wrote:
So MVP beat MC 4-0 today huh? damn


3-0.
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
Lavi
Profile Joined November 2011
Bangladesh793 Posts
November 20 2011 22:08 GMT
#9310
On November 21 2011 07:00 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 06:54 Lavi wrote:
On November 21 2011 06:50 StarStruck wrote:
On November 21 2011 06:45 Qaatar wrote:
On November 21 2011 06:38 Dreamer.T wrote:
On November 21 2011 06:35 Caddy wrote:
On November 21 2011 06:31 HowardRoark wrote:
How come MVP doesn't have any fans? Being the best player in the world ought to count for something, and earn him some fans? If MKP or Huk would have been the best, they would have tons of fans. It is a bit weird, he is always well-spoken, doesn't cheat and don't cheese, he is pure talent, but still, as he said himself, he doesn't have many fans.

He definitely has fans, judging by this thread alone, but there's maybe a bunch of reasons why he isn't the most popular with the fans.

First of all, he is the best. He'll get huge respect for that, definitely, but people like underdogs. People also don't like to see the same person win everything.

Secondly, he doesn't show emotion. I actually quite like that, because it's very professional and it means he can keep calm and not play on tilt. However, that lack of emotion doesn't translate well to fans. Fans like when you can see how much a win / loss means to a player.

I think it's the same in any sport, really.

I do think MVP has a huge amount of respect though. I'm a Protoss fanboy but I'll openly admit MVP is a fantastic player. You don't get that good by just being lucky.


I'd like to add, that Flash (the greatest RTS gamer in history) also went through the same things as MVP. During his reign, when no one could beat him, people were actually joking he might destroy e-sports because of how boring the scene had become. It's the same thing with MVP.


The difference with Flash and MVP (apart from Flash being an RTS genius) is that people universally acknowledge Flash to be the greatest player of his era, and arguably the greatest BW player ever (and some would argue, like me, that he's the greatest RTS player in history).

As you can see in this thread, there are people who think MVP isn't even the best T in the world. Huge difference. It's a fucking joke, because there's no denying that MVP is the greatest SC2 Terran to date.


Nor has he been as dominant as a guy like Flash. This is why calling someone the best in SC2 right now is silly especially when the lines are just going to continue to blur.


... and the fact that bw and sc2 is two different games. and created by 2 different development teams. Can't really compare mvp to flash because this simple reason... but right now I do think mvp is best sc2 player yes


The old two different games argument. Great.

Until MVP dominates every frigging thing he enters for over a year then maybe I'll start giving him a special label.

The fact of the matter is you have to dominate. Everything. No wrinkles in the armor and right now he has many. Namely his TvP.

He is not immortal; he doesn't look invisible. Many pros can win.

Right now calling anyone the best in SC2 is as I said. Absurd because you have so very little to go on.


Well your inferring that me saying mvp is probably the best means dominant like flash... I do believe mvp can be beat by any pro sc2 player on any given day, but hes the most well rounded mechanically strategically and result wise so far, so about as dominant as we've seen so far in sc2 so far. I only say bw vs sc2 because I believe theres more depth for bw pro to gain edges to get more consistent wins then sc2 so i believe getting a flash level dominance is impossible in sc2 atm until expansion comes out which I said
Bensio
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom621 Posts
November 20 2011 22:08 GMT
#9311
On November 21 2011 07:08 Lamphead wrote:
i kind of hate this system..MVP is going to smash Leenock on Xelnaga now and Leenock is going to get an auto win on Metalopolis in game 3..they should dump Dual Sight and Metalopolis

Or dump Xelnaga?
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
November 20 2011 22:08 GMT
#9312
On November 21 2011 07:08 Bayyne wrote:
So MVP beat MC 4-0 today huh? damn

3-0, he already had one win from the first series.
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
November 20 2011 22:08 GMT
#9313
On November 21 2011 07:06 zmansman17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 07:05 Legend` wrote:
On November 21 2011 07:03 Lamphead wrote:
why the hell would they start a series on Dual Sight? If MVP didn't win on 2 base it was ggs, this map is ridiculous for TvZ


MVP had a 4-5 minute window where if he pushed he would have won (straight broodlord tech with absolutely no ground army whatsoever). He decided not to and decided to take a 3rd instead and lost because leenock outmacroed him.

So much terran QQ past 2 days


Not true. At no point could MVP push out from what I saw and I PLAY terran at gm lvl...He played it just as I would HOPE to and lost

So......you didn't see the glaring window where MVP was sitting outside Leenock's creep, and Leenock had....a few corrupters and a few roaches?
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
bajabaja
Profile Joined September 2010
245 Posts
November 20 2011 22:08 GMT
#9314
Would it be better if MVP FF'ed the corruptors with his thors? It seems like he's focusing all his anti-airs on BLs.


Don't know much about TvZ.
hi.
KoTakUEurO
Profile Joined May 2011
605 Posts
November 20 2011 22:09 GMT
#9315
On November 21 2011 07:07 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
Naniwa plays after MVP Leenock?

yep then the loser of that will be playing winner of MVP leenock
both casted by tastosis
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
November 20 2011 22:09 GMT
#9316
On November 21 2011 07:07 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 07:05 Legend` wrote:
On November 21 2011 07:03 Lamphead wrote:
why the hell would they start a series on Dual Sight? If MVP didn't win on 2 base it was ggs, this map is ridiculous for TvZ


MVP had a 4-5 minute window where if he pushed he would have won (straight broodlord tech with absolutely no ground army whatsoever). He decided not to and decided to take a 3rd instead and lost because leenock outmacroed him.

So much terran QQ past 2 days


The point that dual sight is the second worst GSL map (belshir being the worst) and was probably every zergs choice when they lost is a valid complaint.


Just like XNC is every Terran's choice vs Zerg, maps can be imbalanced. Go read the maps in the balance article, it's enlightening.
MC|NonY|HerO|NaDa|MVP|DRG|Ret|Sen|Dimaga|Leenock
FrogOfWar
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1406 Posts
November 20 2011 22:09 GMT
#9317
On November 21 2011 07:07 mlspmatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 07:05 TheMenace wrote:
On November 21 2011 07:04 Todevod wrote:
I can't fucking listen to Mr. Bitter. Jesus christ SHUT UP


I think he is a very good caster, mute the stream if u dont like it. And bye bye

I must agree, he's ruining the cast. He's got to tone down the hype. "The most incredible comeback I've ever seen" was the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard.


Haha, I see what you did there....... did you? :D
Kira__
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
November 20 2011 22:09 GMT
#9318
On November 21 2011 07:04 Carush wrote:
BITTER STOP BEING SO GODDAMN BIASED

that is all


minerals being mined
The truth is, Yagami-kun, I suspect that you may in fact be Kira.
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
November 20 2011 22:09 GMT
#9319
On November 21 2011 07:08 Bayyne wrote:
So MVP beat MC 4-0 today huh? damn

3-0. He had a win from yesterday.
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
November 20 2011 22:09 GMT
#9320
I hope people are not being serious about Ghosts.

You guys do realize that MVP had no infrastrucute to get ghosts out quickly right?And even then Mech is terribly gas heavy and Ghosts cost a lot of gas.

When you are going mech getting ghosts is quite hard. And even then you have to start producing the ghosts before the Zerg has broodlords. Some of you guys act as if Ghosts are a magical solution.
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
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