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pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-22 05:59:10
October 22 2011 05:58 GMT
#3581
On October 22 2011 14:55 Joe12 wrote:
MMA playing ridiculously risky in all 3 games. He knows hes in trouble in a straight up game.

How was game 2 risky exactly? He had map control with his marines and reapers, it's logical to take the gold, which was eventually scouted, but he defended banshees and hellions well. So what exactly was risky and what exactly puts him in trouble in a straight up game?

How is MVP's all-in not risky?

How is a 14cc on Tal'Darim in a TvT not uncommon?
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Shodanss
Profile Joined November 2010
Greece245 Posts
October 22 2011 05:58 GMT
#3582
On October 22 2011 14:57 Chvol wrote:
This series definitely has not broken the GSL finals curse yet. Not very impressive games.


I know they aren't breathtaking but they are really great!
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
October 22 2011 05:58 GMT
#3583
On October 22 2011 14:58 Scalepad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 14:57 Zenislev wrote:
lol nice "terran imba" sign

it said MMA :p

The one next to the MMA letters said terran imba
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znowstorm
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia281 Posts
October 22 2011 05:58 GMT
#3584
sidenote: Hero Line game on the WCG has been epic in the between games time.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
October 22 2011 05:58 GMT
#3585
On October 22 2011 14:57 Emporio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 14:56 Quintum_ wrote:
On October 22 2011 14:52 Raambo11 wrote:
People stop qqing about an all in and realize that it was a perfect read, MMA goes for the greediest build in the book and MVP all in's, cant really get more of a textbook counter than that.MVP probably knew from studying reps MMA was greedy on taldarim.


For a read you kinda have to scout your opponent and i dont even think MvP got glimpse of the cc tell he was in the base. It was a blind all-in, a very strong one but a blind all-in all the same.

It was a calculated blind all-in, since he predicted MMA's build based on the map and his game advantage.

Yeah, I agree. The only really good build against what MVP did would be fast 1 base marine tank of your own (not likely and even then you're even) or cloaked banshees which MMA has like never used.
MajorityofOne
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2506 Posts
October 22 2011 05:59 GMT
#3586
On October 22 2011 14:56 Femari wrote:
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On October 22 2011 14:54 FastgunZ wrote:
On October 22 2011 14:51 Femari wrote:
meh an all in

one day i hope for a gsl finals where it's 7 games that are good and have no all ins


Is this the stance of most the viewers? I think some all ins are fun to watch. I think its intense when the defender realizes its coming and is scrambling. We all know that feeling and I think its great to see the pros response to the situation.

Well this is like not that long after MLG where we had our share of all ins (thank you BoxeR)

Also, more Starcraft = more fun.


You need a ratio of good long macro games and deadly all-ins....that MVP rush was very uncommon and a great strategic decision. I'd say 4-5 macro games with 2-3 all-ins, with game 7 being a macro game, would be ideal
Scalepad
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden366 Posts
October 22 2011 05:59 GMT
#3587
On October 22 2011 14:58 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 14:58 Scalepad wrote:
On October 22 2011 14:57 Zenislev wrote:
lol nice "terran imba" sign

it said MMA :p

The one next to the MMA letters said terran imba

oh shit, sorry then :<
Desert Fox
Profile Joined August 2011
United States352 Posts
October 22 2011 05:59 GMT
#3588
On October 22 2011 14:58 Scalepad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 14:57 Zenislev wrote:
lol nice "terran imba" sign

it said MMA :p


Don't know that the Terran IMBA sign was apart of the MMA sign. Think he saw the opportunity to flash it and it happened to be at the same time the MMA sign . I saw it earlier w/o MMA.
And on the pedestal these words appear -- "My name is Ozymandias, king of kings: Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!" Nothing beside remains. Round the decay Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare The lone and level sands stretch far away.
vVvPastry
Profile Joined September 2011
United States244 Posts
October 22 2011 05:59 GMT
#3589
On October 22 2011 14:58 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 14:55 Joe12 wrote:
MMA playing ridiculously risky in all 3 games. He knows hes in trouble in a straight up game.

How was game 2 risky exactly? He had map control with his marines and reapers, it's logical to take the gold, which was eventually scouted, but he defended banshees and hellions well. So what exactly was risky and what exactly puts him in trouble in a straight up game?

How is MVP's all-in not risky?

If anything MMA is better than MVP in Dual Site as shown in game 2....
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PhatPornStar
Profile Joined July 2010
33 Posts
October 22 2011 05:59 GMT
#3590
If this series can make it to a game 7, both are undefeated on Antigua Shipyard. How can this be any better?
Phobbers
Profile Joined May 2011
773 Posts
October 22 2011 05:59 GMT
#3591
Was that milkis?
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DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
October 22 2011 05:59 GMT
#3592
So Artosis and Tasteless both play Brotoss? Nice
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crawlingchaos
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2025 Posts
October 22 2011 05:59 GMT
#3593
Artosis LOL
They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you've gotta ride it well, the world is full of kings and queens who blind your eyes and steal your dreams, it's heaven and hell, oh well.
vVvPastry
Profile Joined September 2011
United States244 Posts
October 22 2011 05:59 GMT
#3594
MILKISS!!!!
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Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
October 22 2011 05:59 GMT
#3595
What's with all the delays? This must be hell for the players.
Termit
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3466 Posts
October 22 2011 05:59 GMT
#3596
Getting shot in the back by a Marauder? Ouch
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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-22 06:00:11
October 22 2011 05:59 GMT
#3597
On October 22 2011 14:58 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 14:57 Emporio wrote:
On October 22 2011 14:56 Quintum_ wrote:
On October 22 2011 14:52 Raambo11 wrote:
People stop qqing about an all in and realize that it was a perfect read, MMA goes for the greediest build in the book and MVP all in's, cant really get more of a textbook counter than that.MVP probably knew from studying reps MMA was greedy on taldarim.


For a read you kinda have to scout your opponent and i dont even think MvP got glimpse of the cc tell he was in the base. It was a blind all-in, a very strong one but a blind all-in all the same.

It was a calculated blind all-in, since he predicted MMA's build based on the map and his game advantage.

Yeah, I agree. The only really good build against what MVP did would be fast 1 base marine tank of your own (not likely and even then you're even) or cloaked banshees which MMA has like never used.


Going 2 or 3 rax expo with bunker(s) would work decently well too. Any macro based build pretty much lose instantly
Desert Fox
Profile Joined August 2011
United States352 Posts
October 22 2011 06:00 GMT
#3598
Oh Artosis . He hates Marauders so much.
And on the pedestal these words appear -- "My name is Ozymandias, king of kings: Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!" Nothing beside remains. Round the decay Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare The lone and level sands stretch far away.
mythics
Profile Joined January 2011
United States75 Posts
October 22 2011 06:00 GMT
#3599
...and they have the marauder

epic
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Tailss
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden233 Posts
October 22 2011 06:00 GMT
#3600
GO MMA!
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