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The following is a list of behaviors that will get immediate bans:

1. Whining about stream
2. Bashing other games
3. Flaming other users
4. Bashing players
5. Complaining about imbalance

Basically just be respectful. Aside from that, enjoy the games, make sure you bring an umbrella and have some delicious waffles! (#)
haka
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1414 Posts
August 28 2011 02:09 GMT
#9301
Well... at least 1-1-1 is looking a bit more mortal. But it really does take a perfect engagement to destroy it. It's just so frustrating to watch
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
August 28 2011 02:09 GMT
#9302
On August 28 2011 11:06 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 11:06 Kamikazess wrote:
It was pretty clear that Kiwi tried to trick Puma into doing the 1-1-1, hoping to hold it.

Why is it so clear?

Because of the map pick and his BO. It was brilliant by Kiwi.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Rybaia
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy213 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 02:12:10
August 28 2011 02:09 GMT
#9303
Lol at Terran players talking about stalling more. Stalling more for what? To face more Pumarines (These are particulary brutal) without AoE.
Tbh I don't know if a range 6 immortal could help here. I hope protoss players can find a solution or this match up is going to be soo fucked up until HotS.
It's soo frustrating see your opponent get stalled with 15 workers in the middle of the map and know that it almost doesn't matter.
Don't hate Puma, if you think this build is retarded, imba and take 0 skills hate the game.
Enchanted
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1609 Posts
August 28 2011 02:09 GMT
#9304
Don't worry friends. If a tournament for money, I think everyone can agree that you must play to win. Puma did exactly that, even if he had to abuse the 1/1/1 build to do it. It's still playing for money and winning what counts, not how you do it. Let's all hope Kiwi can fight his way through tomorrow to the Finals.

Kiwi Fighting!
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
August 28 2011 02:09 GMT
#9305
On August 28 2011 11:09 snafoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 11:07 netherDrake wrote:
Bomber must be happy that he's facing Select instead of DRG. He's at least guaranteed top 3 now.


what? drg is 1st in group/...

Yeah it's DRG vs Bomber
Sarang
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia2363 Posts
August 28 2011 02:10 GMT
#9306
So that's it for day 2?

For a second I was upset, because the lack of MLG means I have no excuse to keep procrastinating.

Then I remembered the rewind button, and the games I missed while sleeping. =)
"Killer helped me feel better before coming to the arena. He told me to say that." - Bomber
hysterial
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2044 Posts
August 28 2011 02:10 GMT
#9307
On August 28 2011 11:04 VTPerfect wrote:
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On August 28 2011 11:00 WindCalibur wrote:
I really do not understand why protoss do not go 1 gate expand. It is so easy for 1 gate expand to hold a 1/1/1 yet i never see a protoss do it. I really do not understand.


because after the 20 second warpgate nerf 2 rax is guarunteed to force a cancel on the nexus or kill it and then its basically free win for terran, search for why Koreans think the 1/1/1 is imbalanced thread.


I'm pretty sure 1 gate FE into 3 gates can hold any 2 rax.
Badboyrune
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2247 Posts
August 28 2011 02:10 GMT
#9308
On August 28 2011 11:03 Flonomenalz wrote:
Lol... Here comes the 1/1/1 imba posts when Kiwi just had to stall longer...

He was getting a good enough composition to beat it if he just stalled longer and warped in more stalkers.

And WHY would he pick Xelnaga when 1/1/1 is so strong on that map... I can't figure his thought process.


I actually think he picked that map because he wanted Puma to go 1/1/1 since Kiwi said before that he had a strategy worked out to deal with it. He probably could have with a bit better decision making, it looked quite good for him up until he decided to engage.
"If yellow does start SC2, I should start handsomenerd diaper busniess and become a rich man" - John the Translator
dwillow
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic88 Posts
August 28 2011 02:10 GMT
#9309
On August 28 2011 11:06 Otori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 11:04 Netsky wrote:
Imagine a world where...

...Protoss players stopped crying...

...and learned to play Starcraft 2.


quoted for truth

protoss diamond players in the thread needs to stop crying because it's getting really old. it is not unbalanced one bit. Kiwi did not counter that build and he wasnt even expecting it since he put up a nexus that he later cancelled.


:-D :-D :-D :-D I am Masters terran and I still think its a little bit too strong...have someone even ever held it, if he didn't know its coming, like 3 gate exp doesnt work, 3 gate robo neither, 4gate + robo + stargate may... we can easily get back the 5 raxx reaper vs. Z and terran it all the way!! But than it wud be all TvT's and blue flames :-D...
"Cause there's one thing i know.....some things r just worth fightin' for!!!!"
Techno
Profile Joined June 2010
1900 Posts
August 28 2011 02:10 GMT
#9310
On August 28 2011 11:04 VTPerfect wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 11:00 WindCalibur wrote:
I really do not understand why protoss do not go 1 gate expand. It is so easy for 1 gate expand to hold a 1/1/1 yet i never see a protoss do it. I really do not understand.


because after the 20 second warpgate nerf 2 rax is guarunteed to force a cancel on the nexus or kill it and then its basically free win for terran, search for why Koreans think the 1/1/1 is imbalanced thread.

HuK held a MKP 3 rax with a 1 gate FE. Sup son?
Hell, its awesome to LOSE to nukes!
Rorix
Profile Joined December 2010
357 Posts
August 28 2011 02:10 GMT
#9311
Kiwi picked that map because he's confident he can hold if the 1/1/1. In fact, he expected puma to do it. QQ'ing when you engaged a sieged line is...well, QQ'ing.

GG puma. Was rooting for select though.
roflstomper
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 02:10:28
August 28 2011 02:10 GMT
#9312
On August 28 2011 11:06 TolEranceNA wrote:
I love how people don't say shit when Kiwi 2 base all-ins every game he played before it, and Puma all ins one game and people started flaming him. (i know the 1/1/1 situation, but it is just double standard.)

It's not a double standard. 2 base all ins don't win 90% of the time and only fail if Protoss fucks up.
MC for president
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
August 28 2011 02:10 GMT
#9313
Also I wouldn't have cared had he cheesed. But using something that's pretty much impossible to stop is a bit much. Any other all in would've been fine. At least the Protoss has a chance to beat it.

1/1/1 they really don't. They literally have to be perfect.

User was temp banned for this post.
Mvp | BoxeR | MarineKing | MC | viOlet | Scarlett | Flash | Bisu | XellOs | Sea | Fantasy | By.Sun
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
August 28 2011 02:10 GMT
#9314
What Kiwi did wrong was that he did not flank from two sides. I've rarely seen a well executed 1/1/1 defeated except by flanking. You need to split the marines and scvs from the tanks and go in from behind with zealots and/or immortals. This also minimizes tank splash.

The weakness of the 1/1/1 all-in is the same weakness that Protoss death balls have - they have to stay together, which makes it possible for you to out-maneuver them and flank, esp. given the siege/unsiege delay. Protoss can learn a few tips from Zergs in this respect.
Latto
Profile Joined April 2011
235 Posts
August 28 2011 02:10 GMT
#9315
On August 28 2011 11:04 Otori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 11:02 mordk wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:02 Yaki wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:01 Femari wrote:
Puma just lost any respect I had for him.

Stop you can't blame him for using a strong build


You can, MVP has self respect so he refuses to use 1-1-1, there's a real player


self respect refusing to use a specific build? that's just retarded, thats like saying its self respect to not 6pool someone

dont think MVP can pull off 1-1-1 builds as perfectly as puma does.

not to mention MVP's immense self respect of 2 rax bunker rushing his teammate and using a op bunker positioning for auto win
true self respect when using your logic >____> right
Durp
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada3117 Posts
August 28 2011 02:10 GMT
#9316
Anyone know the actual matchups for tomorrows 1st seeds?
SOOOOOooooOOOOooooOOOOoo Many BANELINGS!!
duct_TAPE
Profile Joined May 2011
492 Posts
August 28 2011 02:10 GMT
#9317
No broadcasted DRG game today
"WHAT!? but I thought there was only one way in Canada!" "Yeah, and y'all went the wrong direction on it"
Haze.884
Profile Joined July 2011
New Zealand192 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 02:10:33
August 28 2011 02:10 GMT
#9318
If you go 1 gate FE into 6gate mass zealots, you can easily block 1/1/1...

except if they go anything else than 1/1/1 or go cloak banshee u are just f***ed.
a
Herry
Profile Joined March 2011
England681 Posts
August 28 2011 02:10 GMT
#9319
I really think DRG has a shot at winning this. but i think whoever comes out of the winners bracket tomorrow will almost certainly win it.
parker-
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany285 Posts
August 28 2011 02:10 GMT
#9320
do someone know the final ranking of pool a? i'm a bit confused cuz of rain, huk and nani.. they all have the same record, even against each other..
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