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The following is a list of behaviors that will get immediate bans:

1. Whining about stream
2. Bashing other games
3. Flaming other users
4. Bashing players
5. Complaining about imbalance

Basically just be respectful. Aside from that, enjoy the games, make sure you bring an umbrella and have some delicious waffles! (#)
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
August 28 2011 01:08 GMT
#8041
fuck yeah Bomber v Noblesse on blue
PuMa v Kiwi on red btw
Kh0nsu
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom183 Posts
August 28 2011 01:08 GMT
#8042
Oh well, doesn't look like we will get DRG vs Hero but I'm not giving up hope!
wats0n
Profile Joined July 2011
United States509 Posts
August 28 2011 01:09 GMT
#8043
On August 28 2011 10:04 Turenne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 10:02 imallinson wrote:
On August 28 2011 09:59 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 28 2011 09:58 DystopiaX wrote:
On August 28 2011 09:58 wei2coolman wrote:
Is it just me or is Raleigh like half the size of anaheim?

Just you. MLG staff saying Raleigh convention center is bigger than anaheim's.

But what about the number of people who attended?


I'm guessing a few things are contributing to this. Firstly there is a hurricane which probably prevented some people from going. Secondly LoL is at this MLG so the amount of people is spread over more games. I also don't think they have a mike pointed at the crowd because the casters have responded to cheers even though they couldn't be heard on the stream.


This. LoL is the big big draw this MLG and future ones as well.


You've posted this twice now. Everything I've heard from there is that SC2 is by far the most popular game. Are you trying to start a rumor?

Nobody's there because there's a hurricane.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 28 2011 01:09 GMT
#8044
Sad that Demuslim has to face Kawaiirice again with the deficit. gl demuslim
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 28 2011 01:09 GMT
#8045
On August 28 2011 10:08 Kamikazess wrote:
Is it possible to Kiwi beat two korean terrans?

He ripped Nada a new asshole, winnign 2-0.
liftlift > tsm
hewley
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1063 Posts
August 28 2011 01:09 GMT
#8046
On August 28 2011 10:06 SafeAsCheese wrote:
People raged 20 pages when idra loses to 2 rax, saying he is awful now, but Sheth losses to it and nothing?


Maybe because Sheth tried to defend it and gged only after the hatch died. LOL
Esports bubble pop, bubble pop
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
August 28 2011 01:09 GMT
#8047
Bomber vs Noblesse is gonna be sick I hope Tastosis cast it
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
Xinder
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2269 Posts
August 28 2011 01:09 GMT
#8048
Would Kiwi take the Code A or Code S spot if he won it? Since he's not on a big named team it'd be hard to get him to Korea i'd assume.
"Daaayyyy9, King Pussyfoot of NinnyVille"- Day9 while playing Amnesia
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17732 Posts
August 28 2011 01:09 GMT
#8049
Bomber vs Noblesse or Kiwikaki vs Puma? OMG
"Expert" mods4ever.com
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10035 Posts
August 28 2011 01:09 GMT
#8050
On August 28 2011 10:07 humbre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 10:06 TT1 wrote:
On August 28 2011 10:05 Coolwhip wrote:
Ret back to losing again? :/


more like kiwi prepared really well for this tour =]

is he going to beat puma? ;d


na doubt it, puma is really good tvp and kiwi is struggling with his pvt + he didnt prepare for it as much as he did with his pvz, that being said if he actually had time to focus on pvt more im sure hed come up with a solid style which would have given him a shot vs puma

hope he wins but its gonan be really hard, anything can happen tho
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
August 28 2011 01:09 GMT
#8051
On August 28 2011 10:06 SafeAsCheese wrote:
People raged 20 pages when idra loses to 2 rax, saying he is awful now, but Sheth losses to it and nothing?


Because Idra got a shitload of stupid fanboys.
Because Sheth is such a manner guy, and he probably know that he screw up and isn't raging about it.
Because NaDa is such a fan favorite. Goddamn son, it's nada, who care how he won if he won. :d
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Herry
Profile Joined March 2011
England681 Posts
August 28 2011 01:09 GMT
#8052
Whats going to happen with Pool C if DRG wins 2-0?

Seems a little unfair he has to dropped down becuase he had won more loss than Select even though he destroyed him.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
August 28 2011 01:09 GMT
#8053
On August 28 2011 10:04 sekritzzz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 09:59 ZAiNs wrote:
On August 28 2011 09:56 Logros wrote:
On August 28 2011 09:54 ZAiNs wrote:
On August 28 2011 09:39 hysterial wrote:
On August 28 2011 09:39 ZAiNs wrote:
Korean Naniwa's PvZ doesn't seem to have changed too much like his PvT has. To be honest I haven't been impressed by a Protoss in PvZ for a loooong time.


Well what does that tell you about the matchup :/

I'd say the matchup just needs to be figured out, because Zergs were whining for so long about PvZ being impossible, and I don't think the buffs Zergs received were responsible for the huge reversal in the matchup. If you were to ask me straight after I've lost a PvZ then I would probably say Zerg imba .

There were actually some important buffs/nerfs like the infestor, spore crawler, WG time increase etc that helped I think.

They weren't major enough for the matchup to go from 'Protoss is impossible to beat!' to 'Zerg is impossible to beat!'.

I dont know what your talking about but the buffs were pretty big. There's a reason the swing in win/loss ratio happened in 1-3 weeks after the patch. Not to mention that pre-buff zerg/protoss were actually close to 50-50 in terms of win ratio but one race has a louder voice.

PROTOSS
Archon
Now a Massive unit.
Range increased from 2 to 3.
Cybernetics Core
Research Warp Gate time increased from 140 to 160.
Gateway
Sentry train time decreased from 42 to 37.
Pylon
Power radius has been decreased from 7.5 to 6.5.

ZERG
Infestor
Speed decreased from 2.5 to 2.25.
Spore Crawler
Root time decreased from 12 to 6.

PROTOSS
Mothership
Units leaving the Mothership's Vortex are now un-targetable and immune to damage for 1.5 seconds.
High Templar
Khaydarin Amulet upgrade (+25 starting energy) has been removed.
Zealot
Charging Zealots will now hit fleeing targets at least once.

ZERG
Infestor
Fungal Growth
Stun duration decreased from 8 to 4 seconds.
Damage increased by +30% vs. armored units.

I did forget that the Khaydarian Amulet removal was made at the same time as the Infestor buff, but really those changes don't seem as substantial as the metagame shift at all.
Coolhwip
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden1381 Posts
August 28 2011 01:09 GMT
#8054
On August 28 2011 10:07 Truefire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 10:06 SafeAsCheese wrote:
People raged 20 pages when idra loses to 2 rax, saying he is awful now, but Sheth losses to it and nothing?

Idra would've gged as soon as the bunker was up. People don't really call Idra awful but he gives up way too early and has a reputation for being BM. Sheth, on the other hand, is the most mannered player in the world and sticks it out till the end even with the slimmest of chances.


Why must every discussion here be about Idra, i swear to god, just make a thread called "Whats happening at MLG - An Idra reference" or something and discuss this completely pointsless IdrA-stuff there instead.
crack
s3183529
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia707 Posts
August 28 2011 01:09 GMT
#8055
On August 28 2011 10:09 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 10:08 Kamikazess wrote:
Is it possible to Kiwi beat two korean terrans?

He ripped Nada a new asshole, winnign 2-0.

Nada is pretty bad now, and TvP is his worst matchup
Courstice
Profile Joined May 2011
United States473 Posts
August 28 2011 01:09 GMT
#8056
Kiwi fighting!!
FrostDuty
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom45 Posts
August 28 2011 01:09 GMT
#8057
When is the next red stream game due to start?
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
August 28 2011 01:09 GMT
#8058
On August 28 2011 10:00 InvalidID wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 09:57 mcc wrote:
On August 28 2011 09:51 dAPhREAk wrote:
On August 28 2011 09:50 mcc wrote:
On August 28 2011 09:45 hugman wrote:
On August 28 2011 09:43 NEOtheONE wrote:
On August 28 2011 09:41 hugman wrote:
On August 28 2011 09:41 DystopiaX wrote:
On August 28 2011 09:40 NEOtheONE wrote:
On August 28 2011 09:38 Carny wrote:
Now Mega tiebreaker inc? :D Naniwa-Huk-Rain all regame ?


Yeah i wonder how they will handle that 3 way tie.

It's overall games record. If it's all tied then they go by h2h


They all beat eachother, you can't do h2h


This.

so triple threat sudden death match?


5. Pool Play Ranking (1st-6th) will be determined using each Player’s Record of Matches won and lost. Ties will be broken using the following Tiebreakers in this order: Head to Head (Match Winning Percentage using only Matches between the tied Players), Games Won Percentage (All Pool Play Matches), and Seed. If there is a tie involving more than two Players and one of the Tiebreakers resolves the tie for a Player(s), but leaves at least two Players tied, resolution of the tie(s) that still exists will start over with Head to Head. If Head to Head or Games Won Percentage is used to break a tie, the higher number will win the Tiebreaker. If Seed is used to break a tie, the lower number will win the Tiebreaker.

As I feared, MLG has another baaad rule. Ties decided by seed, so fair.

that is only the last resort. what would be a better way to decide?

Anything that is remotely fair, so anything that does not use information external to the tournament itself. So coin-flip would actually be more fair if they really have no time to play tie-break. Or some other crazy deciding criteria that uses in-tournament information.


It is not external to the tournament. MLG is a league culminating in a finals. Hence the seed points are not external to the tournament.

To this particular one, it is. Tournament results determine your league points, it should not have feedback loop where league points help you win tournaments, that is unfair. Especially in such a clear way, there are indirect ways MLG is doing it with its tournament structure, but they are at least somewhat fair, this is no in the least.
akari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States65 Posts
August 28 2011 01:10 GMT
#8059
I can think of a hundred and eleven reasons why kiwikaki doesn't have a ghost of a chance against Puma!

derp.
When I say Korean, I mean plays on the Korean server. I don't care what you think it is, that's what I mean when I say it.
Finrod1
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany3997 Posts
August 28 2011 01:10 GMT
#8060
gogo kiwi
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