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The following is a list of behaviors that will get immediate bans:

1. Whining about stream
2. Bashing other games
3. Flaming other users
4. Bashing players
5. Complaining about imbalance

Basically just be respectful. Aside from that, enjoy the games, make sure you bring an umbrella and have some delicious waffles! (#)
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
August 27 2011 19:50 GMT
#3461
On August 28 2011 04:49 Teoyaomqui wrote:
According to http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Rankings InControl had 1060 ranking points before Raleigh, lowest ranked player in pool play is machine with 650 points. So there is no way InControl is out of pool play for next MLG. Just so everyone knows because there seems to be a lot of misconception about it.

Hope he can do better then.

How did he get so much seriously ?
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
August 27 2011 19:51 GMT
#3462
On August 28 2011 04:48 Fleebenworth wrote:
It seems like if you lose every series (Inc) and don't even win a game, you shouldn't get points towards seeding. The flaw in the MLG system is that someone like inc is still earning rank points based on performance in the very first few MLGs because every time he goes 0-5 he is still going to be seeded ~20 at the lowest.



Agreed.

Not saying the Tyler can do better than Inc in a pool, but at least Tyler works his way out of the open brackets and THAN get's 0-5. So if you'd put Tyler directly in pool play maybe he could get some wins. Just a random comment.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
InvalidID
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1050 Posts
August 27 2011 19:51 GMT
#3463
On August 28 2011 04:48 Fleebenworth wrote:
It seems like if you lose every series (Inc) and don't even win a game, you shouldn't get points towards seeding. The flaw in the MLG system is that someone like inc is still earning rank points based on performance in the very first few MLGs because every time he goes 0-5 he is still going to be seeded ~20 at the lowest.


Except that each time he has gone 0-5 he has beaten people in the Championship losers bracket to get enough points to continue. This is why he has remained for so long, in combination with his high finish in the first MLG. I don't dislike him, and he is clearly not up to the snuff of the average pool player, but he has continued to perform at a level just good enough to hang on.
holy_war
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States3590 Posts
August 27 2011 19:51 GMT
#3464
On August 28 2011 04:50 Yaki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 04:49 Teoyaomqui wrote:
According to http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Rankings InControl had 1060 ranking points before Raleigh, lowest ranked player in pool play is machine with 650 points. So there is no way InControl is out of pool play for next MLG. Just so everyone knows because there seems to be a lot of misconception about it.

Hope he can do better then.

How did he get so much seriously ?


Cuz the point system is broken. He got like 900 points for finishing 4th at MLG Dallas.
AzurewinD
Profile Joined November 2010
United States569 Posts
August 27 2011 19:51 GMT
#3465
On August 28 2011 04:50 Yaki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 04:49 Teoyaomqui wrote:
According to http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Rankings InControl had 1060 ranking points before Raleigh, lowest ranked player in pool play is machine with 650 points. So there is no way InControl is out of pool play for next MLG. Just so everyone knows because there seems to be a lot of misconception about it.

Hope he can do better then.

How did he get so much seriously ?


Ranked 4th in Dallas I believe.
"...I want more people to be in that state more often, to see things not through the limited and rigid mind or the fearful ego, but through a heart that loves to express and create" - Xiaonan "Glider" Sun
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
August 27 2011 19:51 GMT
#3466
On August 28 2011 04:50 Meiffeltower wrote:
just turned streams on.. have everyone diablo 3 on the red stream?.. or what is happening? caster breaks?

Breaks between games, and Blizzard wants to advertise.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
August 27 2011 19:51 GMT
#3467
On August 28 2011 04:50 Darneck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 04:38 TazzDingo wrote:
Not liking TLOs playstyle at all... Always the same: Doing a weird unorthodox push while crossing fingers that the opponent is not prepared.

It's a strategy game you know

It's actually a tactics game. Supreme Commander was a strategy game.
Kevo32
Profile Joined June 2011
23 Posts
August 27 2011 19:51 GMT
#3468
On August 28 2011 04:50 Yaki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 04:49 Teoyaomqui wrote:
According to http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Rankings InControl had 1060 ranking points before Raleigh, lowest ranked player in pool play is machine with 650 points. So there is no way InControl is out of pool play for next MLG. Just so everyone knows because there seems to be a lot of misconception about it.

Hope he can do better then.

How did he get so much seriously ?

It says right on the page how he got so much.
The Touch
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom667 Posts
August 27 2011 19:51 GMT
#3469
On August 28 2011 04:49 Hemula wrote:
Where do you watch TLO vs Hero? Blue stream is showing some random stuff for me...


Blue stream is certainly showing TLO v Hero at http://teevox.com/mlg
You Got The Touch
Sleight
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
2471 Posts
August 27 2011 19:52 GMT
#3470
On August 28 2011 04:48 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 04:46 Redmark wrote:
On August 28 2011 04:42 Sleight wrote:
On August 28 2011 04:40 XiGua wrote:
On August 28 2011 04:37 Sleight wrote:
Dude. Trimaster beat Jinro earlier? Why aren't we bashing Jinro?

OHHH WAAAIITTT mindless anti-EG-ism. I hope the mods enforce impartial rules in this thread.

We are not bashing Jinro because we did not see his games and also... What site are you on? Yeah...

We saw iNControl and he played badly. That's why we are criticizing him.



OHHHHH So Liquid players cannot be criticized because of the WEBSITE? Oh man, I thought all those posts by Moderators and TL Admins saying that the forums are separate from the Team and that they are an open forum were lies?

ORRRR people are letting their own feelings get in the way of the etiquette rules established for ALL PLAYERS not just ones on teams people don't like for dumb shit reasons.

People aren't criticizing his PLAY they are attacking him mindless. Manner Up, TL. Wtf.

dude just stop
We're reporting the posts that are actually abusive (weight insults etc). You can't just rage at everyone who doesn't like incontrol, that's not how this works


Seriously, we're just saying he's playing sloppy. All the disrespectful comments will be banned. But seriously, we're merely pointing out the fact that Incontrol isn't playing good, and that we're slightly angry that he's got a slot in champ pool for like 3 MLG's despite doing terribad.


Obviously I am not talking to people criticizing his play. That is why I said people ATTACKING HIM. Jesus christ, read my post before you tell me what I should or should not be doing.

His play is NOT up to par. We all agree. I said nothing about criticizing his, HuK's, IdrA's, Haypro, Ret's, anyone with a losing record's play. But if you don't think I am talking about what you said, then OBVIOUSLY I am not.

It's up to TL forums to discourage the flamers, not just report them. They get temp bans and do it more. Keep it a step above reddit, that's my point.
One Love
Ozcollo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States154 Posts
August 27 2011 19:52 GMT
#3471
Diablo 3 looks awesome! I wanna bust out a witchdoctor!
Pyre
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1940 Posts
August 27 2011 19:52 GMT
#3472
Inc is my favorite peronality in SC. I wish him the best. He just needs to seriously improve if he wants to be competetive, in the top level of play.
Kettchup
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1911 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 19:52:48
August 27 2011 19:52 GMT
#3473
On August 28 2011 04:45 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 04:39 Fleebenworth wrote:
So is incontrol finally going to be dropped from pool play after going 0-5 in yet another MLG?


no unless all of the qualified Koreans attend the next MLG.


It really illustrates how horrible MLG's pool system is. Not to bash Incontrol, I think he's an alright player. But his overall MLG record now is 17-39. When he got 4th place, he went 8-9, not even a winning record there. Should absolutely not be in pool play.
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
August 27 2011 19:52 GMT
#3474
On August 28 2011 04:50 Yaki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 04:49 Teoyaomqui wrote:
According to http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Rankings InControl had 1060 ranking points before Raleigh, lowest ranked player in pool play is machine with 650 points. So there is no way InControl is out of pool play for next MLG. Just so everyone knows because there seems to be a lot of misconception about it.

Hope he can do better then.

How did he get so much seriously ?



I think all these pool play will actually get bad for him, because 0-5 every tournament can harm your morale.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Hemula
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Russian Federation1849 Posts
August 27 2011 19:52 GMT
#3475
On August 28 2011 04:49 Teoyaomqui wrote:
According to http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Rankings InControl had 1060 ranking points before Raleigh, lowest ranked player in pool play is machine with 650 points. So there is no way InControl is out of pool play for next MLG. Just so everyone knows because there seems to be a lot of misconception about it.

Hope he can do better then.

We've been watching Incontrol doing bad at the MLGs for around half a year now.
One more MLG?
That is just wrong.
Tyree
Profile Joined November 2010
1508 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 19:53:11
August 27 2011 19:52 GMT
#3476
If he appears in the next MLG, is that really a good thing for him? Even more pressure will be mounted on him, can he win a series? Lots of questions and lots of doubt, some people thrive under pressure, some crumble.

Stuff like that has to be annoying for any player, and he will get alot of flack for losing to this Trimaster guy.

EDIT: Ofcourse with all due respect to Trimaster
★ Top Gun ★
Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 19:54:31
August 27 2011 19:52 GMT
#3477
On August 28 2011 04:50 Darneck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 04:38 TazzDingo wrote:
Not liking TLOs playstyle at all... Always the same: Doing a weird unorthodox push while crossing fingers that the opponent is not prepared.

It's a strategy game you know


Yeah, exactly. It's always exciting to watch TLO because he's bringing in new strategies. Although they might look like he's batshit crazy sometimes, they actually work and he wins. And that is really good to watch as a spectator because it's never fun to watch the same guy stim that marauder for the 1000x time to victory.
"I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance. "
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 27 2011 19:52 GMT
#3478
On August 28 2011 04:50 Yaki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 04:49 Teoyaomqui wrote:
According to http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Rankings InControl had 1060 ranking points before Raleigh, lowest ranked player in pool play is machine with 650 points. So there is no way InControl is out of pool play for next MLG. Just so everyone knows because there seems to be a lot of misconception about it.

Hope he can do better then.

How did he get so much seriously ?

Well, first he got a shit ton from MLG Dallas for geting 4th place.

Then he gets points for showing up, since he's always ranked 8-10, just by doing bad-mediocre, so he slowly builds up some points.
liftlift > tsm
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 19:54:21
August 27 2011 19:52 GMT
#3479
On August 28 2011 04:50 megapants wrote:
Hero moves in as his +1 Armor finishes, but TLO HAS A NUKE RIGHT ON TOP OF HERO'S ARMY!!11!

Oh hero killed the ghost, TLO taps out.



your stream is really delayed lol D: we're in game 3 already
kilergrunt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States263 Posts
August 27 2011 19:52 GMT
#3480
On August 28 2011 04:51 Zane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 04:50 Darneck wrote:
On August 28 2011 04:38 TazzDingo wrote:
Not liking TLOs playstyle at all... Always the same: Doing a weird unorthodox push while crossing fingers that the opponent is not prepared.

It's a strategy game you know

It's actually a tactics game. Supreme Commander was a strategy game.

I see what you did there.
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