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Lazy_89
Profile Joined April 2011
United States87 Posts
August 24 2011 23:07 GMT
#6181
I'm thinking that MVP is going to win this season. I dont see HuK beating MVP but it would be amazing if he does. Haven't seen a foreigner in Ro4 in a long time.
ThePianoDentist
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom698 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 23:14:53
August 24 2011 23:13 GMT
#6182
missed these games through sleep. are there vods available anywhere?

edit:found it just after i posted this
Brood War Protoss, SC2 Terran/Protoss
DiscoKid
Profile Joined September 2010
United States18 Posts
August 24 2011 23:15 GMT
#6183
On August 25 2011 08:13 ThePianoDentist wrote:
missed these games through sleep. are there vods available anywhere?

This.
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
August 24 2011 23:18 GMT
#6184
On August 25 2011 03:10 KoTakUEurO wrote:
HuK better win GSL after taking out NaDa! u can do it!
2/4 LB
Voted NaDa and Puzzle


MVP is going to be his biggest hurdle ever. if huk can beat MVP...then and only then will I believe he can legit take the whole thing
Thorn Raven
Profile Joined November 2010
United States126 Posts
August 24 2011 23:22 GMT
#6185
On August 24 2011 23:28 Joey Wheeler wrote:
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On August 24 2011 23:21 Thorn Raven wrote:
On August 24 2011 23:08 Joey Wheeler wrote:
I hope July cheeses MVP out of this tourney, I really hate watching MVP play his dull tvz style.


Hmmm interesting. I think MVP has one the greatest styles of any GSL Terran to date. Solid, precise and calculating. His drop timings are immaculate and his push timings are always at the moments that he needs to push.

His style is very subtle and is quietly enjoyable to watch. No other Terran can match him at the moment.

It's a completely static style that simply aims to abuse timings wherever possible. He gets a fast third because he knows Zerg can't punish it while also being right at the Zerg's throat. His understanding of the matchup is unmatched but really there isn't anything exciting about it.


You are absolutely correct. Just differing opinions, it seems.

He almost reminds me of Flash. He's not nearly at Flash's caliber, but MVP's style is so reminiscent. That's basically why I like him so much. He's the closest thing to Lee Young Ho that I have for SC2.

As for that fast third timing, I was surprised. I'm pretty sure that he landed the third CC before he scouted Nestea's own fast third. And as you said, he pushed despite the fact that he was expanding with Nestea. It was quite a tense moment. He was posturing, and that move could have backfired immensely, if he had actually committed to his timing. It was risky and exhilirating. His Combat Shields weren't even finished. XD

But it is his style. So well said and enjoy the rest of GSL. : )
Thorn Raven
Profile Joined November 2010
United States126 Posts
August 24 2011 23:31 GMT
#6186
On August 25 2011 00:35 Allwars wrote:
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On August 25 2011 00:27 Maghetti wrote:
On August 25 2011 00:16 cordlc wrote:
I haven't watched all the matches yet, but I've gotta say, Wolf / Doa talking about MVP like he's nothing (biggest GSL upset? wtf) really bothers me. Anyone that knew anything about the matchup would've put MVP as the clear favorite.

Nestea's ZvT is his "worst" matchup.

Meanwhile, MVP's TvZ is more or less on par with MMA, in that they simply do not lose TvZ - doubly so when they're at the top of their game (as MVP has been, just watch his recent MLG/GSL games). As Nestea was thoroughly crushed by MMA (game wasn't even close), there was really no reason to believe he'd do all that much better against MVP.

I don't remember them calling it the biggest upset. You sure you heard them right? I have a hard time believing they would say something that retarded.


I can confirm it, they talked about it like it was totally unexpected and MVP was a second class player. At least that was my impression.


Agreed, they did not give MVP enough credit. Considering the fact that he crushed through Nestea to win the Finals of GSL January. They definitely hold a somewhat ignorant opinion of him. Though considering the amount of hype that Tastosis have been giving Nestea, and how eager the foreign scene has played up that hype, it's no wonder they forgot how MVP is superior to Nestea.

Slumps notwithstanding, MVP always delivers the highest level play for me to view in the SC2 scene.
amazingoopah
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1925 Posts
August 24 2011 23:31 GMT
#6187
whoa, my LB has been smashed recently... hoping we get a new champion out of this at least.
MechKing
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3004 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 23:32:23
August 24 2011 23:32 GMT
#6188
On August 25 2011 08:15 DiscoKid wrote:
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On August 25 2011 08:13 ThePianoDentist wrote:
missed these games through sleep. are there vods available anywhere?

This.

Gomtv.net
Thorn Raven
Profile Joined November 2010
United States126 Posts
August 24 2011 23:34 GMT
#6189
On August 25 2011 00:52 koppik wrote:
I loved MVP vs NesTea's first game. It was fun and back-and-forth, even if NesTea's midgame wasn't where it should be. I was excited to go into game two and then . . . bunker rush. Oh well, NesTea is probably the person to blame the most there, but still.


Oh I know, so abusive. Hahaha, I was hoping to watch a longer game too. But man that was a well timed rush. Z favored map, and 2nd game after a long first game. Blitz!
MilesTeg
Profile Joined September 2010
France1271 Posts
August 24 2011 23:36 GMT
#6190
Sorry if it's a noobish question but is there a recap somewhere? Something similar to what people write during the games but compiled. Very interested in knowing what happened.
Thorn Raven
Profile Joined November 2010
United States126 Posts
August 24 2011 23:46 GMT
#6191
On August 25 2011 05:48 doihy wrote:
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On August 25 2011 05:43 dog4 wrote:
If HuK wins vs MVP which I think he will MVP is bad TVP he will win GSL and be the first foreign bonjwa imo.


uhoh someone said the b word...

Bonjwas dont go 0-3 at events fyi.


Yeah seriously, I will only consider a player a 본 좌 ( Bonjwa) when he has won 7 GSLs. The last three GSLs that he won have to be back-to-back golds.

At least, I consider this comparable to the SC:BW 본 좌 Lee "Flash" Young Ho.
icarly
Profile Joined August 2011
United States400 Posts
August 25 2011 00:16 GMT
#6192
On August 25 2011 08:07 Lazy_89 wrote:
I'm thinking that MVP is going to win this season. I dont see HuK beating MVP but it would be amazing if he does. Haven't seen a foreigner in Ro4 in a long time.


Huk and MvP have played a lot in the past and I don't think I remember Huk even taking a game from him. But MvP relies on defending his 1 rax fe with 1 bunker a lot so if Huk decides to 4 gate or something it could be hard.
GreatestThreat
Profile Joined May 2010
United States631 Posts
August 25 2011 00:37 GMT
#6193
On August 25 2011 03:10 Umpteen wrote:
I like watching July. Too many Zergs drone like a teenage boy beating off in his room with one eye on the door in case his mum comes up the stairs, and then has to try and shove everything back in his pants at the last second when she does. With July, it's like he's noisily banging his girlfriend while yelling downstairs that his goddamn dinner had better be ready when he's done.




Fucking priceless.
"I'm ethereal! My children are legion, serial! They stick to my skin like beloved cysts... I TEAR AWAY WITH MY NAILS AND TEETH AND FISTS!"
fant0m
Profile Joined May 2010
964 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-25 00:58:44
August 25 2011 00:41 GMT
#6194
I loved those July games, Julyzerg is such a beast. He's pretty much the only Zerg in the GSL that can cheese AND macro (and win with both).

Ryung vs. Puzzle game 1 was insane! How long has it been since we've seen someone force 1 base play for 25 minutes like that? And on the current level of skill at that. Back when we were still close to Beta it could happen, but mostly because people were worse at the game. Keeping a game so close for so long that your opponent can't even afford 400 minerals for an expand is so damn impressive, I was blown away.

But wth, Mvp exploiting a map flaw to beat Nestea is recommended? 2 bunker walls is clearly not intended to be a viable strategy, seeing as every major tournament uses maps that prevent such cheese. Yet that shitty map that stole our first opportunity in 7 months to see these 2 titans clash for more than a single real game gets 50/50 recommended?

Bel'Shir Beach is a terrible map and should be removed from the GSL map pool.

Edit: I've edited my post. I was completely reading the polls wrong. The 1 base vs. 1 base Ryung game was strongly recommended, I had actually already forgotten about game 2 so I was confused (and thought that the XNF game wasn't recommended) lol! Sorry guys, it makes perfect sense to not recommend that travesty of a 2nd game.
GreatestThreat
Profile Joined May 2010
United States631 Posts
August 25 2011 00:45 GMT
#6195
You know I really think July has a better chance of taking down MVP than Nestea did. Even if nestea is an overall more solid player, especially in the other matchups, July's heavy aggressive style might be just what it takes to knock MVP on his ass. Good luck taking a fast third against that kind of chaos.

With no zergs left to knock out July in his weak MU, he has a good chance of taking this season.
"I'm ethereal! My children are legion, serial! They stick to my skin like beloved cysts... I TEAR AWAY WITH MY NAILS AND TEETH AND FISTS!"
fant0m
Profile Joined May 2010
964 Posts
August 25 2011 01:01 GMT
#6196
On August 25 2011 09:45 GreatestThreat wrote:
You know I really think July has a better chance of taking down MVP than Nestea did. Even if nestea is an overall more solid player, especially in the other matchups, July's heavy aggressive style might be just what it takes to knock MVP on his ass. Good luck taking a fast third against that kind of chaos.

With no zergs left to knock out July in his weak MU, he has a good chance of taking this season.


Well. July *is* the one that knocked Mvp into the Up/Down matches with 2 baneling busts in a row, iirc. And it was the season of Protoss/Kyderian Amulet (where the only non-Toss to win a set against Toss was July), March, so Mvp ended up facing 2 Toss in the Up/Downs and got sent to Code A.

So yea, Mvp has a history of crushing Nestea (January), and July does have a history of crushing Mvp.
skrzmark
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1528 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-25 01:14:47
August 25 2011 01:13 GMT
#6197
MVP's season this GSL. Even though Terran is always so abundant we've only had 1 Terran Code S champion. I wouldn't mind if Genius won GSL either. Or TOP he always seems consistent in his GSL runs even though when he goes far its off team kills lol.
We got them GOM TvT's and them mlGG's
Scrandom
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2819 Posts
August 25 2011 01:41 GMT
#6198
First game was just nice steady play by MVP and the 2nd game I did not know you could do that with 2 bunkers. Didn't get to watch it live so dunno if everyone else was as surprised at that.

I thought NaDa was going to win that first game but credit to HuK, he shut him down hard. 2nd game I thought NaDa was making a comeback but damn HuK shut him down last map.

Ryung and Puzzle the first game was hilariously awesome, such low supply all game long, 1 base vs 1 base for like 20 minutes but the 2nd game Ryung handled him.

Glad July stomped him even if the games were pretty boring
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
August 25 2011 02:11 GMT
#6199
and thats why Nestea isn't Bonjwa (or the perverted version of Bonjwa Sc2 fans like to think he is).
He's not even the best player on his own team.
GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
August 25 2011 02:28 GMT
#6200
On August 25 2011 08:18 Golgotha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2011 03:10 KoTakUEurO wrote:
HuK better win GSL after taking out NaDa! u can do it!
2/4 LB
Voted NaDa and Puzzle


MVP is going to be his biggest hurdle ever. if huk can beat MVP...then and only then will I believe he can legit take the whole thing


Except he'll never will. Nada had a decent chance because its TvT, but MVP is so solid in TvP.
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